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    1. Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. J.A. Florian
    3. It's one main room with 3 or 4 large windows on the "females" side; at least 3 large windows on the "males" side, interrupted by a double "funeral doors" that wagons could off-load the casket without stairs. It's a double entrance-- males / females, males on left and only the male side is used now. About 1 & 1/2 stories, brick exterior, wood frame interior. Built 1832. The 1/2 story attic has 2 windows in the front. The tiny access door is at the rear ceiling in the main room. All the windows are -- double hung?? meaning, two separate panes of glass with wood frame and the bottom frame is pushed up to open the window. The "back" room was the original kitchen for Love Feasts but they removed the fireplace pre 1940s and rennovated it. No real "trim" -- just the wood framing around the wood entrance doors. I think the roof is a basic slate or renovated shingle roof. The inside used to have the male/female separating wall, shoulder high when seated, but was removed long ago. The front of the main room has a platform with the original table / Bible stand on top. Pews original. Judy On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Deborah Thomas < [email protected]> wrote: > What kind of ornamentation (I realize this might be an oxymoron for a > Brethren church) does the church have? (Style of windows, eaves, trim one > or two doors, etc.) Is it brick, stone or frame? You say it was built in > 1832 -- where? > > I am an art historian (I studied American architecture and material culture > in grad school) so if you are still having problems classifying your > building let me know and I may be able to help. Just out of curiosity, what > is the plan of the church? (Does it have more than one door, etc.) I would > love to see a photo. Best of luck on the preservation work. > > Deborah Thomas > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

    06/27/2011 02:20:32
    1. Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. Deborah Thomas
    3. The description of meetinghouses in the vernacular section sounds like the best category. It even includes German meetinghouses. Where is the building located? Deborah Thomas

    06/27/2011 02:06:11
    1. Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. Morrow Family
    3. The sub-category "Republican" probably comes closest. Teri Petit is also correct to suggest the style is most likely "Traditional Vernacular." Duncan Morrow ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.A. Florian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as > Thank you for your help with this. > > The church was built 1832. > > In the application it has under "Early Republican", the sub-categories of: > 1. Federal > 2. Early Classical > 3. Republican > > Which sub-category would describe an 1832 construction? > > I'm glad someone on the List understands these descriptions! > > Judy > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Morrow Family > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The classifications you list are timeframes, not artisitc styles. >> >From your description, it is Early Republican if was built after the >> Revolutionary War; Colonial if it dates to the war era or before. >> Duncan Morrow >> > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/27/2011 01:50:23
    1. Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. J.A. Florian
    3. Thank you for your help with this. The church was built 1832. In the application it has under "Early Republican", the sub-categories of: 1. Federal 2. Early Classical 3. Republican Which sub-category would describe an 1832 construction? I'm glad someone on the List understands these descriptions! Judy On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Morrow Family <[email protected]>wrote: > The classifications you list are timeframes, not artisitc styles. > >From your description, it is Early Republican if was built after the > Revolutionary War; Colonial if it dates to the war era or before. > Duncan Morrow >

    06/27/2011 11:39:03
    1. Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. Morrow Family
    3. The classifications you list are timeframes, not artisitc styles. >From your description, it is Early Republican if was built after the Revolutionary War; Colonial if it dates to the war era or before. Duncan Morrow ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.A. Florian" <[email protected]> To: "LIST: BRETHREN EMAIL LIST" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:15 PM Subject: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as > I'm looking at an application for Historic Preservation - in Pennsylvania. > > The application asks for "Architectural Classification" -- "adopted > from *American > Architecture Since 1780: A Guide to Architectural Styles*, by Marcus > Whiffen; *Identifying American Architecture *by John J.G. Blumenson; *What > Style Is It? *By John Poppeliers, S. Allen Chambers, and Nancy B. > Schwartz; > and *A Field Guide to American Houses *by Virginia and Lee McAlester." > > They then list these styles--- with multiple sub-categories under each > one: > > Colonial > > Early Republican > > Mid-19TH Century > > Late Victorian > > Late 19TH & 20TH Century Revivals > > Late 19TH & Early 20TH Century American Movements > > Modern Movement > > Other > > No Style > > Mixed > > The only description I've ever seen for German Baptist churches is > "simplistic". What description applies to a small, 1-story brick church > with 1/2 story attic? The structure is red brick. It's significance is > "the oldest brick church west of the Allegheny Mountains". > > So, what Architectural Type is it? > > Judy > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/27/2011 11:28:18
    1. [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. J.A. Florian
    3. I'm looking at an application for Historic Preservation - in Pennsylvania. The application asks for "Architectural Classification" -- "adopted from *American Architecture Since 1780: A Guide to Architectural Styles*, by Marcus Whiffen; *Identifying American Architecture *by John J.G. Blumenson; *What Style Is It? *By John Poppeliers, S. Allen Chambers, and Nancy B. Schwartz; and *A Field Guide to American Houses *by Virginia and Lee McAlester." They then list these styles--- with multiple sub-categories under each one: Colonial Early Republican Mid-19TH Century Late Victorian Late 19TH & 20TH Century Revivals Late 19TH & Early 20TH Century American Movements Modern Movement Other No Style Mixed The only description I've ever seen for German Baptist churches is "simplistic". What description applies to a small, 1-story brick church with 1/2 story attic? The structure is red brick. It's significance is "the oldest brick church west of the Allegheny Mountains". So, what Architectural Type is it? Judy

    06/27/2011 11:15:10
    1. Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. Deborah Thomas
    3. What kind of ornamentation (I realize this might be an oxymoron for a Brethren church) does the church have? (Style of windows, eaves, trim one or two doors, etc.) Is it brick, stone or frame? You say it was built in 1832 -- where? I am an art historian (I studied American architecture and material culture in grad school) so if you are still having problems classifying your building let me know and I may be able to help. Just out of curiosity, what is the plan of the church? (Does it have more than one door, etc.) I would love to see a photo. Best of luck on the preservation work. Deborah Thomas

    06/27/2011 10:52:44
    1. Re: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as
    2. Teri Pettit
    3. Judy, I believe what you want is "Traditional Vernacular": http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/traditional_vernacular/2381 ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of J.A. Florian [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:15 PM To: LIST: BRETHREN EMAIL LIST Subject: [BRE] What Architectural Type are Brethren churches known as I'm looking at an application for Historic Preservation - in Pennsylvania. The application asks for "Architectural Classification" -- "adopted from *American Architecture Since 1780: A Guide to Architectural Styles*, by Marcus Whiffen; *Identifying American Architecture *by John J.G. Blumenson; *What Style Is It? *By John Poppeliers, S. Allen Chambers, and Nancy B. Schwartz; and *A Field Guide to American Houses *by Virginia and Lee McAlester." They then list these styles--- with multiple sub-categories under each one: Colonial Early Republican Mid-19TH Century Late Victorian Late 19TH & 20TH Century Revivals Late 19TH & Early 20TH Century American Movements Modern Movement Other No Style Mixed The only description I've ever seen for German Baptist churches is "simplistic". What description applies to a small, 1-story brick church with 1/2 story attic? The structure is red brick. It's significance is "the oldest brick church west of the Allegheny Mountains". So, what Architectural Type is it? Judy

    06/27/2011 09:18:26
    1. [BRE] FamilyHart Database Update
    2. FamilyHart
    3. We have just updated our online database with over 13,000 new names to bring the online total to over 694,000 linked names. Many are of Brethren or Mennonite extraction. You can see what we have done at: http://familyhart.info Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info [email protected] Rootsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Shirk, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA: Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any genealogical information sent to FamilyHart grants permission to use that information for any genealogical purposes by FamilyHart.

    06/26/2011 02:37:33
    1. [BRE] Broad Inquiry
    2. Christopher Eads
    3. Good morning. I am looking for some general information at this time on medical practices among German Baptist Brethren til the end of the Civil War. I know the content of the Brethren Encyclopedia. I have also been researching material extracted from the John Kline diary...Thomsonianism, nineteenth c. botanics more broadly, epidemics broadly in the time period. What I am really searching for is names of folks who practiced medicine, either as trained (regular) doctor or as practitioners (who were oftentimes also legally doctors). At this point, I would be interested in just a name and dates and location (church, town, county, whatever you have), and a source reference to the claim of being a doctor. And although I say doctor, I also mean nurse or other medical practitioner. Also, any medically related references from the *Gospel Visitor* (or *Evangelische Besucher*) would also be appreciated. You are welcome to write me directly about [email protected] © Christopher Eads 1140 Lincolnshire Dr Harrisonburg VA 22802

    06/24/2011 05:44:05
    1. Re: [BRE] Broad Inquiry
    2. Robin Poeschek
    3. On page 13 of the Glick family book, "Across the Years" there is a paragraph about Elizabeth Bauserman Click/Glick/Glück who assisted the community doctor at the births of the babies of the area. Elizabeth Bauserman b. 1758 Shenandoah Co VA d. 1852 Shenandoah Co VA. She was the daughter of Seigmund Bauserman. She was married to Johannes Glück, Jr. aka John Click/Glick, Jr. Robin Click Poeschek Kamloops BC On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Christopher Eads <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning. > > I am looking for some general information at this time on medical practices > among German Baptist Brethren til the end of the Civil War. I know the > content of the Brethren Encyclopedia. I have also been researching > material > extracted from the John Kline diary...Thomsonianism, nineteenth c. botanics > more broadly, epidemics broadly in the time period. > > What I am really searching for is names of folks who practiced medicine, > either as trained (regular) doctor or as practitioners (who were oftentimes > also legally doctors). > At this point, I would be interested in just a name and dates and location > (church, town, county, whatever you have), and a source reference to the > claim of being a doctor. And although I say doctor, I also mean nurse or > other medical practitioner. > > Also, any medically related references from the *Gospel Visitor* (or > *Evangelische > Besucher*) would also be appreciated. > > You are welcome to write me directly about [email protected] > > © > > Christopher Eads > 1140 Lincolnshire Dr > Harrisonburg VA 22802 > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > Support Our Sponsoring Agency > The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) > For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] > ------------------------ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/24/2011 03:01:05
    1. Re: [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry
    2. Diane
    3. I, too, have a relative who considered himself "the only Dunkard in Texas". He had no church in the state, yet a Dunkard he remained:) Aaron Ogden Dayton, an allopath. In my family the past two generations never had a Dunkard church in MO in their lifetimes, yet I, raised in California, know Dunkards we have always been. You just cannot get those values and culture out of a family once they are in, nor can I fathom a single reason why one would want to:) On 06/22/11, Thom<[1][email protected]> wrote: My father grew up in the Bridgewater, VA Church of the Brethren, and was enrolled as a preacher there while in college. After college he never lived in an area with a CoB. While I was growing up we attended a Presbyterian Church; at one point my father was asked to serve as an Elder in this church, but it was then discovered that despite his active participation in the church he was not actually on the church rolls, so they requested that he transfer his "letter of faith". My father said he would officially join the Presbyterian Church and serve as an Elder IF he was allowed to do so while still maintaining his membership in the Bridgewater CoB. I'm not sure of the legalities [or lack thereof], but that is what happened. Upon my father's death his ashes were placed, with approval of that church, in the Bridgewater CoB Memory Garden. Perhaps Mr. Davis, like my father, considered himself "Dunkard" despite not having a local congregation. In the absence of a local congregation, there would be no one to tell him he couldn't belong to a secret society. I assume you know that there were active CoBs south of Sacramento [I think at least in Modesto]. Thom Flory -----Original Message----- From: David Myers <[2][email protected]> To: [3][email protected] Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 8:03 pm Subject: [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry I am researching Jacob Z. Davis (1818-1896), a wealthy resident of San Francisco. I was under the impression that, although his ancestors were important factors in the history of the Germantown COB, he himself was not Brethren. However, there was reference in one of the newspaper articles that I've read to Jacob Z. Davis being a "Dunkard." So, now I'm a little unsure. I am sure that he belonged to the Free Masons, and was Grand Chamberlain of the San Francisco chapter. The Brethren Encyclopedia says that it was forbidden to join secret societies such as the Free Masons but goes on to say that there was a lot of debate about this as the memberships in various secret societies proliferated throughout the 1800's. Does anyone know how much of an impediment it would be to belonging to the COB in the 1850-1900 time period if a man were an officer in the Free Masons? Also, I should say that there would be a problem with Davis attending the Church, not only because of his Free Masonry, but also due to the fact that there don't appear to have been churches in Sacramento and San Francisco during his lifetime. Thanks. David Myers ------------------------ Search the Archives at [4]http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams [5]mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [6][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected]

    06/22/2011 08:18:36
    1. Re: [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry
    2. Thom
    3. My father grew up in the Bridgewater, VA Church of the Brethren, and was enrolled as a preacher there while in college. After college he never lived in an area with a CoB. While I was growing up we attended a Presbyterian Church; at one point my father was asked to serve as an Elder in this church, but it was then discovered that despite his active participation in the church he was not actually on the church rolls, so they requested that he transfer his "letter of faith". My father said he would officially join the Presbyterian Church and serve as an Elder IF he was allowed to do so while still maintaining his membership in the Bridgewater CoB. I'm not sure of the legalities [or lack thereof], but that is what happened. Upon my father's death his ashes were placed, with approval of that church, in the Bridgewater CoB Memory Garden. Perhaps Mr. Davis, like my father, considered himself "Dunkard" despite not having a local congregation. In the absence of a local congregation, there would be no one to tell him he couldn't belong to a secret society. I assume you know that there were active CoBs south of Sacramento [I think at least in Modesto]. Thom Flory -----Original Message----- From: David Myers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 8:03 pm Subject: [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry I am researching Jacob Z. Davis (1818-1896), a wealthy resident of San Francisco. I was under the impression that, although his ancestors were important factors in the history of the Germantown COB, he himself was not Brethren. However, there was reference in one of the newspaper articles that I've read to Jacob Z. Davis being a "Dunkard." So, now I'm a little unsure. I am sure that he belonged to the Free Masons, and was Grand Chamberlain of the San Francisco chapter. The Brethren Encyclopedia says that it was forbidden to join secret societies such as the Free Masons but goes on to say that there was a lot of debate about this as the memberships in various secret societies proliferated throughout the 1800's. Does anyone know how much of an impediment it would be to belonging to the COB in the 1850-1900 time period if a man were an officer in the Free Masons? Also, I should say that there would be a problem with Davis attending the Church, not only because of his Free Masonry, but also due to the fact that there don't appear to have been churches in Sacramento and San Francisco during his lifetime. Thanks. David Myers

    06/22/2011 01:30:31
    1. Re: [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry
    2. Merle Rummel
    3. ---------------------------------------- I am researching Jacob Z. Davis (1818-1896), a wealthy resident of San Francisco. I was under the impression that, although his ancestors were important factors in the history of the Germantown COB, he himself was not Brethren. However, there was reference in one of the newspaper articles that I've read to Jacob Z. Davis being a "Dunkard." So, now I'm a little unsure. I am sure that he belonged to the Free Masons, and was Grand Chamberlain of the San Francisco chapter. Also, I should say that there would be a problem with Davis attending the Church, not only because of his Free Masonry, but also due to the fact that there don't appear to have been churches in Sacramento and San Francisco during his lifetime. Thanks. I do not have records about Jacob Davis - but will make a comment - Since there seems to have been no San Francisco Church, Mr Davis seem not to have been attending a Brethren Church, and might have not been for a considerable time. The reference to "Dunkard" would then be more to his church background. He could have been raised Brethren, and joined the church in his youth, and held to some of it in his life (or as the family remembered him) I have several members of the Four Mile Church (Indiana) families who were '49ers or arrived there soon after. There is no record of them being "Brethren" in California, although they seem to have come back to Brethren Churches. Others attended Methodist or Baptist Churches, since they had some similarity to the Brethren. In a quick look-up in Dr Gladys Muir's Brethren on the Pacific Slope - there seems to have been two Brethren Churches in the general vicinity as early as 1862 - Church of California and the Napa Valley church. Neither were directly in San Francisco. It is possible Mr Davis had contact with one or the other of these. Merle C Rummel

    06/21/2011 11:51:56
    1. [BRE] Germantown Church of the Brethren building
    2. David Myers
    3. I am interested in finding out if the Germantown Church of the Brethren building is registered with any historical or architectural societies due to its possible importance in either area. I went to the National Register of Historic Places website ( http://www.nps.gov/nr/research/ ) and I couldn't find the church building listed there but the site seemed kind of buggy to me so I'm not real confident in the results I got. Are there any other places that I could look? Any other organizations that might have listed the church building? Thanks David Myers ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e02a92dbf96865b8dm07vuc

    06/21/2011 04:51:42
    1. Re: [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry
    2. William Thomas
    3. The Mennonites have the same prohibition against joining the Masons. One of the reasons is that they oppose the taking of oaths. That being said, my g.g.g.g grandfather was Mennonite who died in 1854, and has an "A" like symbol on his tombstone that is very Masonic looking. I found the same symbol on another Mennonite and possibly Amish tombstone. I have never found an explanation of what that symbol meant, but it sure looks like a Masonic symbol to me. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Myers Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry I am researching Jacob Z. Davis (1818-1896), a wealthy resident of San Francisco. I was under the impression that, although his ancestors were important factors in the history of the Germantown COB, he himself was not Brethren. However, there was reference in one of the newspaper articles that I've read to Jacob Z. Davis being a "Dunkard." So, now I'm a little unsure. I am sure that he belonged to the Free Masons, and was Grand Chamberlain of the San Francisco chapter. The Brethren Encyclopedia says that it was forbidden to join secret societies such as the Free Masons but goes on to say that there was a lot of debate about this as the memberships in various secret societies proliferated throughout the 1800's. Does anyone know how much of an impediment it would be to belonging to the COB in the 1850-1900 time period if a man were an officer in the Free Masons? Also, I should say that there would be a problem with Davis attending the Church, not only because of his Free Masonry, but also due to the fact that there don't appear to have been churches in Sacramento and San Francisco during his lifetime. Thanks. David Myers ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0131ab3d63e62164m07vuc ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ Support Our Sponsoring Agency The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists (FOBG) For further information contact Ron McAdams mailto:[email protected] ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/21/2011 04:18:40
    1. [BRE] Brethren doctrine and Free Masonry
    2. David Myers
    3. I am researching Jacob Z. Davis (1818-1896), a wealthy resident of San Francisco. I was under the impression that, although his ancestors were important factors in the history of the Germantown COB, he himself was not Brethren. However, there was reference in one of the newspaper articles that I've read to Jacob Z. Davis being a "Dunkard." So, now I'm a little unsure. I am sure that he belonged to the Free Masons, and was Grand Chamberlain of the San Francisco chapter. The Brethren Encyclopedia says that it was forbidden to join secret societies such as the Free Masons but goes on to say that there was a lot of debate about this as the memberships in various secret societies proliferated throughout the 1800's. Does anyone know how much of an impediment it would be to belonging to the COB in the 1850-1900 time period if a man were an officer in the Free Masons? Also, I should say that there would be a problem with Davis attending the Church, not only because of his Free Masonry, but also due to the fact that there don't appear to have been churches in Sacramento and San Francisco during his lifetime. Thanks. David Myers ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0131ab3d63e62164m07vuc

    06/21/2011 01:03:11
    1. Re: [BRE] Need Help re: Peter ELLER, died 1812, Washington PA
    2. J.A. Florian
    3. Yep, "Uncle Pete" (just joking) took a walk with his tombstone for unknown reasons, under unknown circumstances. Maybe he wanted to check on the former "Progressives" at Highland Brethren, whose members once belonged to Ten Mile before the split in the 1880s. Whatever caused his tombstone to be removed, he is now "home". It is possible but just a guess that the entire stone toppled, had no "footer", because it is a complete stone in good condition. It extends another half length (as the top half or what the inscription occupies), so there would be 1/4th or more of the bottom that could have been buried under the soil. This church/cemetery took many names over time. Daniel's Run is a creek and a road nearby. But the church is officially called "Ten Mile Church of the Brethren", on Dunkard Road, on the hill above Marianna and between Spring Valley Road and the road to Lone Pine near Amity. As to the date, I'll post the link when I get the pictures online. The older ladies of the DAR took the 1938 readings. Their eyes-- or mine-- could be wrong on the date. You can take a look and see what you think. Judy On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:11 AM, J.A. Florian <[email protected]> wrote: > Peter Eller (tombstone) > Inscription: > Died Jan. (8?) 1812 > Aged 64 yrs 9 mo 26 (or 28) days > (Stone surface may have additional markings or misc indentations below the > inscription.) >

    06/21/2011 09:47:34
    1. Re: [BRE] Need Help re: Peter ELLER, died 1812, Washington PA
    2. gale honeyman
    3. Judy, Uncle Peter found! If you look closely at the marker, there should be more space than usual between the eight and one. Many of the older stones had lightly engraved fours that eventually faded away looking like a one. A 17 Oct 1938 reading in Volume 2 of Washington County cemetery books lists inscriptions of the "Old Dunkard Church Cemetery" which gives Peter the death date of 8 Jan 1813 at 63 years and the next is Mary Magdalene wife of Peter died 10 Oct 1870 age 88 next to namesake daughter. Peter Eller son of Henry Eller Sr. & Elizabeth Bigler was born in Frederick Co MD and died 8 Jan 1843 in West Bethlehem twp, Washington Co PA. He married circa 1809, Mary Magdalene, thought to be the daughter of Jacob Shideler Sr. & Catharine Hooven. An intestate was filed for his estate in the May Court of 1843 by administrators Daniel Eller & Nicholas Garret. They were the parents of Daniel 1810-1890 m Ella unknown, Catherine 1811-1879, Elizabeth 1812/3-1902 both single, Mary Magdalene circa 1814-1871 m Jack Moore and Henry circa 1816-1886 single, all of whom are buried in the Daniel's Run Church of the Brethren Cemetery near Mariana PA. Gale ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.A. Florian" <[email protected]> To: "LIST: BRETHREN EMAIL LIST" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:11 AM Subject: [BRE] Need Help re: Peter ELLER, died 1812, Washington PA > Peter Eller (tombstone) > Inscription: > Died Jan. (8?) 1812 > Aged 64 yrs 9 mo 26 (or 28) days > (Stone surface may have additional markings or misc indentations below the > inscription.) > > This tombstone was found in a house's basement near Beallsville PA. > It was returned to Ten Mile Church of the Brethren in 2010 with a note > from > the man who was cleaning out the basement. > Other ELLER stones are across from front of church. We think one of them > might be Peter's wife? > > Who is related to this line who can help me in identifying who was Peter's > wife and children? There's an empty "appearing" gravelot in the Eller > section, where Peter might belong. > But, there's no burial map or burial records for the cemetery to identify > the lots. > > Can you help me with info about the family? > > I took photos of the stone last week and will be putting them onto my > website. > > Judy

    06/21/2011 05:33:42
    1. [BRE] Need Help re: Peter ELLER, died 1812, Washington PA
    2. J.A. Florian
    3. Peter Eller (tombstone) Inscription: Died Jan. (8?) 1812 Aged 64 yrs 9 mo 26 (or 28) days (Stone surface may have additional markings or misc indentations below the inscription.) This tombstone was found in a house's basement near Beallsville PA. It was returned to Ten Mile Church of the Brethren in 2010 with a note from the man who was cleaning out the basement. Other ELLER stones are across from front of church. We think one of them might be Peter's wife? Who is related to this line who can help me in identifying who was Peter's wife and children? There's an empty "appearing" gravelot in the Eller section, where Peter might belong. But, there's no burial map or burial records for the cemetery to identify the lots. Can you help me with info about the family? I took photos of the stone last week and will be putting them onto my website. Judy

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