I seem to show Catherine Custer as the daughter of Jacob Custer and Elizebeth (Betsy) Leatherman. I do not find her husbands name; apparently she deceased about 50 years of age (or younger). Joe Custer I'm and trying to identify the parents of Catherine Custer who married > John > Spacht. Catherine was born 22 Aug 1797 in Somerset County, PA. She > married John Spacht on 2 Apr 1820 in PA. She and John lived in Hancock > County, Ohio, where she died on 5 Feb 1892. She was a member of the > Brethren Church in Ohio. This information in verified by the Spacht > family > Bible. I know that she is NOT the daughter of George Ball Custer and > Catherine Leatherman. I have George Custer's will and his daughter > Catherine (born in 1792) married Samuel Littlel. So whose daughter is > she? Can anyone help? > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Custer is a name found in northern Somerset County, near the Cambria County line. A Frederick Custer is buried in Conemaugh Township, and died in 1841 at the age of 67 (based on a cemetery book for Conemaugh Township). He was married to an Elizabeth Stover. There are two Custer Cemeteries in Conemaugh Township. There are also old Custer Tombstones in the Seese Cemetery in Paint Township, Somerset County. This cemetery has Weaver's in it as well (a Mennonite name). You will find a number of Brethren Custer's buried in the Berkey COB Cemetery in Paint Township. The oldest being a Ralph Custer born in 1828. All of these cemeteries are within a few miles of each other. Bill Thomas -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Erickson Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:33 AM To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Custer Genealogy I'm and trying to identify the parents of Catherine Custer who married John Spacht. Catherine was born 22 Aug 1797 in Somerset County, PA. She married John Spacht on 2 Apr 1820 in PA. She and John lived in Hancock County, Ohio, where she died on 5 Feb 1892. She was a member of the Brethren Church in Ohio. This information in verified by the Spacht family Bible. I know that she is NOT the daughter of George Ball Custer and Catherine Leatherman. I have George Custer's will and his daughter Catherine (born in 1792) married Samuel Littlel. So whose daughter is she? Can anyone help? ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm and trying to identify the parents of Catherine Custer who married John Spacht. Catherine was born 22 Aug 1797 in Somerset County, PA. She married John Spacht on 2 Apr 1820 in PA. She and John lived in Hancock County, Ohio, where she died on 5 Feb 1892. She was a member of the Brethren Church in Ohio. ***************** The Custer Family were early Mennonite, from Germantown PA (Nicholas Koster). I am a descendent of a John Custer (1736-1812), who moved to Virginia, then the Carolinas and eventually to southern Ohio. He died on Duck Creek, NE Cincinnati. His family (at least several of the children) were Brethren, likely from the Carolinas on. John went with the Pietist (Brethren) "Eternam Restoration", and is said to have been part of the first Universalist Congregation in Cincinnati. Merle C Rummel

I'm and trying to identify the parents of Catherine Custer who married John Spacht. Catherine was born 22 Aug 1797 in Somerset County, PA. She married John Spacht on 2 Apr 1820 in PA. She and John lived in Hancock County, Ohio, where she died on 5 Feb 1892. She was a member of the Brethren Church in Ohio. This information in verified by the Spacht family Bible. I know that she is NOT the daughter of George Ball Custer and Catherine Leatherman. I have George Custer's will and his daughter Catherine (born in 1792) married Samuel Littlel. So whose daughter is she? Can anyone help?

Not a direct answer - but a suggestion. Contact the Archive Coordinator of the Caster Association of America at http://www.caoa-genes.org/contacts.html  She has the most complete resource database for  Custer lines - but it is not online.    GENEalogy - - - - - - - - - it's in my BLOOD! ________________________________ From: Richard Erickson <richardjerickson@gmail.com> To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: [BRE] Custer Genealogy I'm and trying to identify the parents of Catherine Custer who married John Spacht.  Catherine was born 22 Aug 1797 in Somerset County, PA.  She married John Spacht on 2 Apr 1820 in PA.  She and John lived in Hancock County, Ohio, where she died on 5 Feb 1892. She was a member of the Brethren Church in Ohio.  This information in verified by the Spacht family Bible.  I know that she is NOT the daughter of George Ball Custer and Catherine Leatherman.  I have George Custer's will and his daughter Catherine (born in 1792) married Samuel Littlel.  So whose daughter is she?  Can anyone help?                               ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN                               ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have a copy of Twigs and Sprigs from the Lawshe Tree, by Theodore Thatcher Lawshe III (1984)? If so, please let me know if there is any reference to Mary Lawshe (1751-1805), daughter of Johannes Peter von Laschet (1711-1751). I am particularly interested in any reference to Benjamin HARLACHER, Mary's husband and my 4GGrandfather. Also any reference to when Mary, her mother Christina, and brother John may have moved from Amwell, NJ to Ephrata Township, Lancaster County. Many thanks...Don

Re: Nancy Sensabaugh - Are you connected to the Sensabaugh family from Ontario Canada - Christian Sensabaugh had a daughter Nancy.

I spoke to James Wine regarding the Bible that was owned by Nancy Sensebaugh in 1765. This Bible later belonged to Henry Brubaker, then to his granddaughters, Julia & Barbara. The Bible still exists & James (Barbara Brubaker's grandson) has offered to show it to me. Hopefully soon I will be able to make the trip from my home state of Texas out to Tennessee to visit with James and see the Bible! James does not know who Nancy Sensebaugh is. However, he did say that there are several Sensebaughs living in his area. He is going to ask them about her. Thank you, Patricia Seaver, for putting me in touch with James Wine! We have had 3 delightful conversations! Rebecca Brubaker Freeman

The Gospel Messenger March 29, 1892 page 202 Vol. 30 No. 13 SOLDIERS AT THE LOVE-FEAST. Bro. P. R. Wrightsman, of Kansas, relates the following interesting incident: " We well remember in times of the war in Tennessee when the old Limestone church had a love-feast appointed on Saturday, that, the day before a regiment of Confederate soldiers came and camped in our church-lot. On Saturday morning, when we convened for Divine services, to our astonishment and disgust, there were a thousand armed soldiers. In this event the church was in a dilemma, not knowing what to do for the best, whether to dismiss our meetings or go on, but finally the church in her wisdom concluded, to go on with the meeting. The large house was packed to its utmost capacity and better order I never witnessed at a love-feast and we were led to believe that impressions were made then and there that have since ripened into Christianity. After the meeting was closed, many of the soldiers said to " When the war is over, come over into Georgia, Alabama and Carolina and preach for us. We never he ard such preaching." We are happy to learn that, since then, our Brethren have established a number of churches far south of where they used to preach before the war. Yet those Southern requests have not near all been answered." Doubtless there are other members who can recall interesting incidents of the kind that would prove profitable reading, if published. We are glad for Bro. Wrightsman's narrative, and we will thank him, or any one else, for accounts of similar incidents. Such experiences ought to be placed on record for the benefit of future generations.

Oops! Fahs's Kauffman book does indeed name Elizabeth Kauffman as the wife of John Flory (1718-1781). Bunderman's Flory book is the book that names Anna Maria as the wife. The Kauffman book is consistent with the court records for Heinrich Kauffman. The Flory book is consistent with the court records for John Flory naming Anna Maria as John's widow. Since there was only one John Flory at the time, the only conclusion I can draw is that John Flory had at least two wives. Dwayne Wrightsman -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 8:18 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Kauffman Wives of John Garber, John Flory, and Jacob Graff Revisited The Kauffman-Coffman book only mentions the widow Anna Maria. It also says that Anna Maria was baptized with John Flory in 1747, but I can assure you that, despite the Bunderman book (p. 133), she was not mentioned by name in the Conestoga baptismal records, rather only by "wife of" who perhaps was Elizabeth Kauffman at the time. Dwayne Wrightsman -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Sewell Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:04 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Kauffman Wives of John Garber, John Flory, and Jacob Graff Revisited Have you looked in the Kauffman-Coffman families of North America? The book is available in many libraries. Lynn Sewell -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 4:23 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Kauffman Wives of John Garber, John Flory, and Jacob Graff Revisited About four years ago I wrote to this List about the daughters of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) who were wives of John Garber, John Flory (1718-1781), and Jacob Graff (1699-1776). The discussion between Gale Honeyman and myself went unresolved as different source materials had different given names for the daughters/wives. Last week I received the English translation of the complete will (Lancaster County Will Book X-Z-391) of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) and the Orphans Court Docket 1776, pp. 13-14, and discovered that they listed the given name of the daughter who married John Flory as Elizabeth Kauffman rather than Anna Kauffman as listed in the abstracts which I (and also Richard Warren Davis) had relied upon previously. This complicates things as the 1790 Written Will of John Flory was returned to court by his widow Anna Maria in 1781. Given that birth records from the family Bible list twenty children of John Flory, born in the period 1741 to 1771, it is plausible that John was married twice, first to Elizabeth Kauffman who may have been the mother of the children given that she was alive when her father Heinrich Kauffman wrote his will in 1771. In the ten years between the 1771 birth of John Flory's youngest child and his death in 1781, his wife (Elizabeth) may have died and he may have taken a second wife (Anna Maria) to help take care of the children. Does anyone have an alternative or better explanation? Dwayne Wrightsman P.S. I still have not found out who the John Garber who married Anna Kauffman was, and am not hopeful that I will.

I have an Abraham and Catherine Ziegler and also an Isaac and Eva Ziegler. Abraham was from Adams Co., PA. While Isaac is from York Co., PA. Thanks, Dave Sloan In a message dated 7/21/2013 8:31:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, newintr@gmail.com writes: Do you have any Deardorffs that married Zeigler/Ziegler? Those would be my connections. York and Adams Counties, PA. Thank you, Elizabeth On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM, <DESloan@aol.com> wrote: > Any one have any DEARDORFF/ DIERDORFF's in their ancestors? Please contact > me and we can see if we are related. Have 25 years of research that I am > willing to share. > > Thanks, > Dave Sloan > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you have any Deardorffs that married Zeigler/Ziegler? Those would be my connections. York and Adams Counties, PA. Thank you, Elizabeth On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM, <DESloan@aol.com> wrote: > Any one have any DEARDORFF/ DIERDORFF's in their ancestors? Please contact > me and we can see if we are related. Have 25 years of research that I am > willing to share. > > Thanks, > Dave Sloan > > ------------------------ > Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN > ------------------------ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Kauffman-Coffman book only mentions the widow Anna Maria. It also says that Anna Maria was baptized with John Flory in 1747, but I can assure you that, despite the Bunderman book (p. 133), she was not mentioned by name in the Conestoga baptismal records, rather only by "wife of" who perhaps was Elizabeth Kauffman at the time. Dwayne Wrightsman -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Sewell Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 7:04 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRE] Kauffman Wives of John Garber, John Flory, and Jacob Graff Revisited Have you looked in the Kauffman-Coffman families of North America? The book is available in many libraries. Lynn Sewell -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 4:23 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Kauffman Wives of John Garber, John Flory, and Jacob Graff Revisited About four years ago I wrote to this List about the daughters of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) who were wives of John Garber, John Flory (1718-1781), and Jacob Graff (1699-1776). The discussion between Gale Honeyman and myself went unresolved as different source materials had different given names for the daughters/wives. Last week I received the English translation of the complete will (Lancaster County Will Book X-Z-391) of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) and the Orphans Court Docket 1776, pp. 13-14, and discovered that they listed the given name of the daughter who married John Flory as Elizabeth Kauffman rather than Anna Kauffman as listed in the abstracts which I (and also Richard Warren Davis) had relied upon previously. This complicates things as the 1790 Written Will of John Flory was returned to court by his widow Anna Maria in 1781. Given that birth records from the family Bible list twenty children of John Flory, born in the period 1741 to 1771, it is plausible that John was married twice, first to Elizabeth Kauffman who may have been the mother of the children given that she was alive when her father Heinrich Kauffman wrote his will in 1771. In the ten years between the 1771 birth of John Flory's youngest child and his death in 1781, his wife (Elizabeth) may have died and he may have taken a second wife (Anna Maria) to help take care of the children. Does anyone have an alternative or better explanation? Dwayne Wrightsman P.S. I still have not found out who the John Garber who married Anna Kauffman was, and am not hopeful that I will.

Have you looked in the Kauffman-Coffman families of North America? The book is available in many libraries. Lynn Sewell -----Original Message----- From: brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brethren-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 4:23 PM To: brethren@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRE] Kauffman Wives of John Garber, John Flory, and Jacob Graff Revisited About four years ago I wrote to this List about the daughters of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) who were wives of John Garber, John Flory (1718-1781), and Jacob Graff (1699-1776). The discussion between Gale Honeyman and myself went unresolved as different source materials had different given names for the daughters/wives. Last week I received the English translation of the complete will (Lancaster County Will Book X-Z-391) of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) and the Orphans Court Docket 1776, pp. 13-14, and discovered that they listed the given name of the daughter who married John Flory as Elizabeth Kauffman rather than Anna Kauffman as listed in the abstracts which I (and also Richard Warren Davis) had relied upon previously. This complicates things as the 1790 Written Will of John Flory was returned to court by his widow Anna Maria in 1781. Given that birth records from the family Bible list twenty children of John Flory, born in the period 1741 to 1771, it is plausible that John was married twice, first to Elizabeth Kauffman who may have been the mother of the children given that she was alive when her father Heinrich Kauffman wrote his will in 1771. In the ten years between the 1771 birth of John Flory's youngest child and his death in 1781, his wife (Elizabeth) may have died and he may have taken a second wife (Anna Maria) to help take care of the children. Does anyone have an alternative or better explanation? Dwayne Wrightsman P.S. I still have not found out who the John Garber who married Anna Kauffman was, and am not hopeful that I will. ------------------------ Search the Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BRETHREN ------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

About four years ago I wrote to this List about the daughters of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) who were wives of John Garber, John Flory (1718-1781), and Jacob Graff (1699-1776). The discussion between Gale Honeyman and myself went unresolved as different source materials had different given names for the daughters/wives. Last week I received the English translation of the complete will (Lancaster County Will Book X-Z-391) of Heinrich Kauffman (d.1774) and the Orphans Court Docket 1776, pp. 13-14, and discovered that they listed the given name of the daughter who married John Flory as Elizabeth Kauffman rather than Anna Kauffman as listed in the abstracts which I (and also Richard Warren Davis) had relied upon previously. This complicates things as the 1790 Written Will of John Flory was returned to court by his widow Anna Maria in 1781. Given that birth records from the family Bible list twenty children of John Flory, born in the period 1741 to 1771, it is plausible that John was married twice, first to Elizabeth Kauffman who may have been the mother of the children given that she was alive when her father Heinrich Kauffman wrote his will in 1771. In the ten years between the 1771 birth of John Flory's youngest child and his death in 1781, his wife (Elizabeth) may have died and he may have taken a second wife (Anna Maria) to help take care of the children. Does anyone have an alternative or better explanation? Dwayne Wrightsman P.S. I still have not found out who the John Garber who married Anna Kauffman was, and am not hopeful that I will.

Any one have any DEARDORFF/ DIERDORFF's in their ancestors? Please contact me and we can see if we are related. Have 25 years of research that I am willing to share. Thanks, Dave Sloan

Thank you Jane for such a glowing report of the Assembly. It was wonderful spending time with you and several other members of our Brethren-list. What a blessing for all of us. News Service of the Church of the Brethren has two links which will help those of you who did not attend, to be a part of the Assembly. www.brethren.org/news/2013/miami-valley-welcomes-brethren-world-assembly.html www.brethren.org/news/2013/quotable-brethren-soundbites.html Gale Honeyman co-director Brethren Heritage Center

Is Galen Beery still on the Brethren List? 

Colleagues, FOBG member Jane Davis sent a review of the proceedings last week at Brookville OH that is so good that I'm sending the entire article to the List. It gives a feel for the warm flavor that we all felt who were in attendance. James Shuman jshuman@telis.org co-moderator BRETHREN WORLD ASSEMBLY [FIFTH], JULY 11-14, 2013—BROOKVILLE, OHIO. MORE THAN SHAKING HANDS The Fifth Brethren World Assembly was more than shaking hands as M. R. Zigler had expressed at the first meeting of Brethren 25 years earlier. It was a joyous experience from approaching the mall where the assembly was held to saying goodbye and leaving for our homes several days later. To this Brethren whose roots are west of the Mississippi River, seeing a mall with an attractive marquee reading “BRETHREN HERITAGE CENTER” makes my heart skip a beat, or two. I wanted to tell everyone nearby to look at that name. Just passing a Brethren sign on a highway warms me and I strain to see more. Entering the mall, a friendly man in Brethren garb sat on the open rear door of a van holding a sign saying, “BRETHREN WORLD ASSEMBLY.” Excited, I could hardly wait to park. More Brethren men in black vests and pants, white shirts, and brimmed, black hats stood in the parking lot. With motions and smiles, they greeted us, directing us to parking. One brother came to our car greeting us. Learning we were from Missouri, he remarked about a brother recently passed to his long home from Missouri. Kelly Day, a McPherson College classmate of mine, was the first young person I had ever see wearing Brethren garb. Only two Brethren elders wore the garb in the Missouri district of my childhood. To my childhood eyes, they seemed aloof and very old; I watched them from the comfort of my parent’s closeness. Evidences of hospitality abounded. Greeters opened doors for us. At registration a greeter quickly pulled my packet, handing it to me with a smile. Wandering around the meeting room before opening sessions, those wearing the garb and those not wearing the garb, greeted me. Name tags carried our given names in large letters, our family names in small letters. Brethren always like to know where other Brethren are from; but that was not on our tag. Neither could we know their Brethren group from their tag; what an encouragement to get better acquainted with those with whom we sat beside in meetings. Glancing across the room from where I stood, an arriving friend raised a hand in greeting. Anxious to visit with seldom-seen friends, we soon shared our present pilgrimages. Displays of artifacts from the collections of the center evoked memories and comments. Visitors shared stories in this area of the center throughout the conference. Remembering M. R. Zigler, who believed and hoped Brethren could get together and do more than just shake hands, and Donald Durnbaugh, historian of the early Brethren in Europe and the United States, gave us thoughtful moments. Brethren, encouraging one another by joining together in worship, fellowship, and faith sharing, stepped forth to not only shake hands with one another but to pilgrimage together every five years, holding four earlier assemblies of sharing. This year, major presentations of Brethren spirituality through their first three hundred years of living provided a solid foundation for all aspects of presentations by our various member bodies. Being inside our church buildings offered insights into similarities and variances made in church structures of today’s members. Worship services offered other insights into our understanding of what it means to be Brethren. If ever there was a mini conference for Brethren genealogists and historians tucked within a larger conference, it was the Fifth Brethren World Assembly. I soon began realizing names on name tags matched names familiar to me from the Fellowship of Brethren Genealogists website. Sitting across the table from me was James Shuman, co-moderator of the Brethren List. Looking at me, he said, “Hello, Jane Davis.” I took a deep, deep breath before answering, “Hello, James Shuman.” I had long admired his approach to the problems that sometimes surfaced on the website and desired an opportunity to tell him. Gratefully, the time we spent sharing remains a cherished memory of mine. Later, a friend of mine, introduced to an FOBG member I had admired but never met, brought the member over. Again, it became a special time of sharing, creating an unforeseen future friendship. How special it is to meet folks you knew only by name, but could now count as fellow Brethren. Being together with seven different groups of a once single union broadens our insights into the relationships with each other. Today’s Brethren youth asked us to continue to be genuine, share our understandings of being Brethren, and continue to maintain a community around them. Can we do this? Will we do this? Not surprisingly, the sharing of Brethren genealogical information was obviously present at this meeting along with our hopes and dreams for future Brethren. Can we wait another five years for the Sixth Brethren World Assembly? While waiting, perhaps we can increase our relationships, fellowships, and community with one another. —Jane Davis, FOBG member, July 19, 2013 <jneherda@msn.com>

Tom Crago has done an exceptionally good job in producing the current FOBG Membership Directory. I liked the old directories with the members' name and address in the first part and the surname list with researchers ID numbers in the second part. But, this is even better: I don't have to keep flipping back and forth to see the researcher's name associated with that surname. I have already found a fellow researcher on one of my surnames who I hadn't known previously. I encourage all FOBG members to send Tom (TomJanetTravelin@aol.com) your surnames of interest for the next directory.