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    1. Re: [BRENTZ] BRENTZ Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2
    2. Thanks for the info on the RootsWeb list--I know of the registration, but rarely use any of the Message Boards--and I do not have membership in Ancestry. Because of this, by the time I get back to them (usually over a year), they no longer are valid, but also because of limited time, I rarely refer to them. The list I do use is GenWeb. With many of my other contacts requiring passwords, the difficulty of keeping track of them is high. The queries and online replies do not require a password to read. As long as an e-mail address is included in the reply, I see no validity in requiring a password to answer a query. It may well, indeed, hinder valuable replies. There is no e-mail address for the submitter of this BRENTZ query. If it were listed--as all used to be--the reply would have gone directly to her/him with a copy to the BRENTZ list. Again, thank you for your interest and advice. I began researching relatives over 40 years ago, and became active about 35 years ago. I coordinated and instructed German research for nine years, actually because of my interest in the BRENTZ family. I no longer am active in this, but still feel the need to help those hunting their German roots. The best source I know is that of LDS's Branch Family History Library films. Any who wish to research the BRENTZ family personally (this should also include the WOLFHARDT family) can find them in the Duehren, Baden, church records. These are all in old German & some Latin, so be prepared for translation. Sharon A Huffman

    02/17/2007 01:49:37
    1. Re: [BRENTZ] Brentz Relation and Message Board
    2. Richard Berkheiser
    3. Hi there! Actually, if you're already a registered user or subscriber of Ancestry then you're able to post to the Boards. Same way with Rootsweb. Becoming a registered user is free and doesn't take long to set up, and if you do decide to become a paid subscriber, you can use the same username and password. Hope this helps! Rick B List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharhuff@aol.com To: brentz@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [BRENTZ] Brentz Relation The best reference to the BRENTZ family of Shenandoah Co & Page Co VA & beginning with Jacob BRENTZ of Althausen, Wuerttemberg is the book "Into the Valley" compiled by Charles F PRINTZ Sr.in 1995. He may be contacted by e-mail at: _CDRCharlesPrintz@aol.com_ (mailto:CDRCharlesPrintz@aol.com) My own descent is from Godlove/Gottlieb's brother, Godfrey/Gottfried, but I don't have on computer the descendants of Godlove. Having done much of the German research thru Duehren church records, the Sippenbuch, etc., I found some of the replies on your board request are incorrect. Charles has also done extensive authentic research on the family, and should be the one contacted for reference to documentation Sharon Huffman _sharhuff@aol.com_ (mailto:sharhuff@aol.com) [NOTE: Please forward to message board--I am not registered, and cannot make a reply without doing so.] ==== BRENTZ Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: reberkheiser@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRENTZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/16/2007 02:22:10
    1. Re: [BRENTZ] Brentz Relation
    2. The best reference to the BRENTZ family of Shenandoah Co & Page Co VA & beginning with Jacob BRENTZ of Althausen, Wuerttemberg is the book "Into the Valley" compiled by Charles F PRINTZ Sr.in 1995. He may be contacted by e-mail at: _CDRCharlesPrintz@aol.com_ (mailto:CDRCharlesPrintz@aol.com) My own descent is from Godlove/Gottlieb's brother, Godfrey/Gottfried, but I don't have on computer the descendants of Godlove. Having done much of the German research thru Duehren church records, the Sippenbuch, etc., I found some of the replies on your board request are incorrect. Charles has also done extensive authentic research on the family, and should be the one contacted for reference to documentation Sharon Huffman _sharhuff@aol.com_ (mailto:sharhuff@aol.com) [NOTE: Please forward to message board--I am not registered, and cannot make a reply without doing so.]

    02/16/2007 02:05:49
    1. [BRENTZ] Brentz Relation & need help
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Printz/Brentz Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brentz/7/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have traced my family all the way back to the brentz. I am just looking for all and any information and dates that can be given to me on the following.. James Bertrum Printz ( my great great grandfather) George E. Printz William D. Printz Samuel Peter Printz William Printz Peter Printz Godlove Printz Johann Phillip Brentz Johann Henrich Brentz Hanns Melichor Brentz P.D. Jakob Brentzen again any information on these men would be great!

    02/15/2007 03:47:01
    1. Rootsweb Mailing List Update--AOLer's
    2. Lainee Denton-Jones
    3. Hiya everyone, After these lists are migrated it is imperative for AOL users to check your spam folders. If you find list mail there then please be sure to CLICK THE *THIS IS NOT SPAM* link to send the list mail to the inbox. It is VERY important to help train the filters and let AOL know that this new server can be trusted. If you have any questions feel free to ask, and we will figure it out together. Thanks for your patience during this migration to the new server, Lainee Denton-Jones List Administrator

    08/17/2006 01:35:28
    1. Rootsweb Mailing List Update
    2. Lainee Denton-Jones
    3. Hiya everyone, You should have received an email from Rootsweb by now detailing the fact that they are changing list software and the lists will be migrated over by groups. A-C lists are supposed to be migrated over on Thursday, 17 August. When the lists are migrated you should receive a new standard welcome letter for this list, just like you did when you first subscribed to the list. I am letting you know this so that you don't wonder why you are getting a new welcome letter. As the lists are migrated over, you will no longer have to add the -L when sending an email to the list. You only need to address your email as XXXX@rootsweb.com with XXXX being replaced with the name of the list. If you have any questions feel free to ask, Lainee Denton-Jones List Administrator

    08/15/2006 03:13:50
    1. Thanksgiving Dinner
    2. Lainee Denton-Jones
    3. All Americans know that this is the time of year when we start planning a huge meal and thinking of family that will be coming. For the next week, I would like to have you think about one or two ancestors, that if you could, you would like to have at Thanksgiving Dinner. Send this to the list, with who they and why you would like to talk to them. It can range from say "I would like to ask them what their mother's maiden name was" or "What made them decide to go from point A to point B". Please create an appropriate subject like prefacing it with Thanksgiving Dinner so that those that do not want to participate can simply hit delete. Have fun! Lainee Denton-Jones List Administrator

    11/19/2005 01:49:41
    1. Mother's Day Dinner
    2. Lainee Denton-Jones
    3. Hiya everyone, With Mother's Day fast approaching, I thought we could try something different on the list. Instead of a traditional roll call, how about a Mother's Day feast...what mother in your lineage would you like to have to dinner on Mother's Day? What things would you like to talk about? What questions would you ask? Make sure that the mother you choose pertains to this list. Have fun and hopefully make some connections! Oh yeah, and please remember to change the subject line to reflect the name of the mother so that the other listers don't have to open it if it isn't a name they are interested in. :) Lainee Denton-Jones List Administrator -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005

    04/15/2005 02:26:03
    1. New Research Tool
    2. Lainee Denton-Jones
    3. <http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA>http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/ If your genealogy website is not listed already, you can submit the url on the appropriate page(s). LaineeList Administrator

    06/11/2004 11:25:34
    1. [BRENTZ] Re: BRENTZ/PRINTZ Germany > Virginia
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Printz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Q1C.2ACEAE/1.2 Message Board Post: Is it possible that Johan George Printz and Jacob Friedrick Printz are the same as Hans Georg Printz and Jacob Printz who arrived in Phil. in 1765?

    03/26/2004 08:41:48
    1. [BRENTZ] Johan Heinrich Printz
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Printz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Q1C.2ACEAE/3 Message Board Post: Do you happen to know if Johan Heinrich Printz and Hans Georg Printz, Jacob Printz, and Samuel Printz are related? Hans, Jacob, and Samuel arrived in Phil in 1765 and were brothers.

    03/26/2004 08:39:39
    1. [BRENTZ] Fwd: Introducing AOLers-RootsWeb-L
    2. Lainee Denton-Jones
    3. --=======57FC3D54======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-622F6413; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hiya everyone, Due to the recent problems with AOL, I am forwarding this introduction to the list in case anyone on AOL would like to join and become a part of the discussion. Lainee List Administrator >From: JYoung6180@aol.com >Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:34:08 EST >Subject: Introducing AOLers-RootsWeb-L--this copy may be used for your >lists if you like >To: cch@netdoor.com, lainee@earthlink.net >X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5006 >X-ELNK-AV: 0 > > >AOLers-RootsWeb-L is a new RootsWeb mailing list dedicated to >assisting those who use the sometimes non-standard AOL e-mail system and >who also >subscribe to and/or admin RootsWeb mailing lists. > >For those who subscribe to RootsWeb mailing lists using AOL, and/or who >admin RootsWeb mailing lists (whether or NOT you use AOL as our e-mail >program) it helps to know how to: > >1) send mail to RootsWeb lists from AOL and have it come through in plain >text (not be rejected), >2) process RootsWeb list mail on the receiving end at AOL so that it is not >considered spam by AOL leading to blocks placed on the RootsWeb list servers >causing non-receipt of list mail, >3) identify list admin spam mail in AOL inboxes or spam folders and to learn >how to deal with it in a manner that doesn't result in AOL thinking RootsWeb >is responsible for the spam (for AOL subscriber RootsWeb list admins), >4) answer the questions and address the problems encountered by list members >who use AOL for RootsWeb list mail (primarily for NON-AOL subscriber RootsWeb >list admins). > >The list is a place for discussion of any problems and issues related to AOL >e-mail usage involving RootsWeb lists in order to remove this type of subject >matter from the RootsWeb genealogy lists where it is generally considered to >be off-topic. Hopefully, misinformation, rumors, false accusations >directed at >either RootsWeb or AOL can be eliminated through the proper use of this >forum. > >To subscribe to AOLers-RootsWeb-L send a new e-mail to: >AOLers-RootsWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com and put only the word SUBSCRIBE in >the subject and message body. Send the request to >AOLers-RootsWeb-D-request@rootsweb.com instead for digest mode. > >Joan Young, administrator >AOLers-RootsWeb-L@rootsweb.com --=======57FC3D54=======--

    02/04/2004 02:41:17
    1. [BRENTZ] Virtual Genealogical Gift Exchange
    2. Lainee Denton-Jones
    3. --=======68A9565D======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-CEE1A30; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As it is the Holiday Season, I thought it would be appropriate to initiate a Virtual Genealogical Gift Exchange. I suggest that everyone post some bit of Brentz information, record transcription, news event, obituary, or other tidbit that may be helpful to your fellow researchers. Look outside your own genealogy. Perhaps you have some records that you transcribed that include Brentz information that is not your own. This would be a good time to share it. Also, this is the *perfect* time to hand off those relatives that you have been wanting to be rid of for ages. :) Perhaps some you unwittingly collected, thinking they may be yours, but discovered were not. Dust them off, wrap them up and give them to your cousins! Tis also a good time for sharing Brentz holiday tales and family recipes. Oh, and feel free to bring along a guest.... pick someone in your line that you would most want to spend time with at a Holiday Party and tell us why. :) Happy Holidays! Lainee Brentz List Administrator --=======68A9565D======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-CEE1A30 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/03 --=======68A9565D=======--

    12/16/2003 11:12:28
    1. [BRENTZ] Info for those searching in UK
    2. Lainee Jones
    3. UK-based researchers will search British archives for birth and marriage records of your English and Scottish ancestors (1813-1950). Also census, church and other records. In most cases we can offer a NO-FIND NO-FEE service -- we find your ancestors or you pay nothing! For a FREE e-mail consultation visit www.britishancestors.com http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=774&sourceid=1028 ***************************************** Permission to reprint articles from RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in RootsWeb Review: Vol. 6, No. 36, 3 September 2003.

    09/04/2003 03:29:46
    1. [BRENTZ] more info from List Admin
    2. Lainee Jones
    3. Your Grandpa Fought in WHAT War? By Ted Pack tedpack@thevision.net Late at night, after a day of giving my clients advice they don't take and an evening of giving my teens advice they won't even listen to, I sometimes surf the genealogy bulletin/message boards looking for people who might be willing to take a bit of well-intentioned counsel. A surprising number of newcomers assume that telling the world a person was "my grandfather" pins his birth date down accurately enough to let other people help them. That isn't always the case. Last night my mother came to our house for barbecued salmon. Her grandfather, George Waterman CADY, fought in the Civil War. He was born in 1837, rode with the 10th Missouri Cavalry (Union) and moved to Kansas after the war. He got off to a slow start; he married in 1881 at the age of 44. My grandmother came along in 1892, when he was 55. She gave birth to my mother. Without giving away details of a living person and a dear woman, let us just say she gets a discount in some restaurants if she eats dinner before 6 p.m. She uses the Internet, and, as I said, her grandfather fought in the Civil War. At the same table, passing the lemon dill butter, was my son. His de- tails are private too, but a year or two ago we could get him a discount by ordering off the "Under 12" menu. He uses the Internet; his grand- father fought in the Korean War -- 86 years after Appomattox. Quite a spread. Ours is a rare family due to my great-grandfather CADY marrying so late, but consider this -- most people have their children between the ages of 20 and 40. Genealogy buffs on the Internet can be anywhere from say 20 to 70 years old -- just to keep the numbers even. If you are now 20 and the oldest child of the oldest child, your grandparents could have been born (20 + 20 + 20) 60 years ago, in 1943. If you are now 70 and the youngest child of the youngest child, your grandparents could have been born (70 + 40 + 40) 150 years ago, in 1853. So, if you are posting a query about your grandfather, please -- give the rest of us a clue; at least tell us which war he fought in. ****************************** Permission to reprint articles from RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in RootsWeb Review: Vol. 6, No. 36, 3 September 2003.

    09/04/2003 03:26:56
    1. [BRENTZ] Information from List Admin
    2. Lainee Jones
    3. Knock, Knock...Anybody There? Have you ever posted a query on a RootsWeb mailing list and ended up thinking that you are playing genealogical solitaire -- that no one out there has any information or suggestions for you, or that you are the only one left on the planet who is researching your family? Been disappointed because you didn't receive a response from anyone -- not even a suggestion about where you might look to find the information? Take a fresh look at what you posted to the mailing list. Lack of a response to a query often says more about the query itself than it does about those who might potentially read and respond to it. First, consider the topic of the mailing list on which you posted your message -- is the topic one for which the subscribers might be expected to have a connection to your query? Is it a mailing list on which you might expect to find some experts to point you in the right direction or provide you with a lookup for the data you are seeking? Don't expect the list members on PAALLEGH-L (Allegheny County, Pennsylvania) to know the location of a town in Germany, provide you with New Orleans ship arrival information, or to check a tax list in Georgia for you. Don't look for the SMITH mailing list subscribers to answer a question about the JONES family unless you have clearly stated the connection between your JONESes and the SMITH surname. Always direct your query to the mailing list best suited for the surname, locality, or topic about which you are asking. Next, let's examine the subject you have chosen. Um, what do you mean you left the subject blank so that everyone would be curious and read your query? It just doesn't work that way in this busy world where everyone wants her or his answers yesterday. Even the most diligent and attentive cousins might hit the delete key if your message doesn't grab their attention at first glance with an informative subject. Putting a request for HELP!!!!!! and lots of exclamation points in the subject line won't win you any genealogical friends or get your query read either. Informative subjects should be brief but include name of the individual you seek and when and where the person or family lived. "Looking for parents of George HICKENLOOPER -- born 1790 in Virginia" for example. If there is sufficient space include what information you wish to learn about the subject of your query as in this example. It is possible that lack of a subject could even result in your query being rerouted to the list administrator rather than being posted to the list -- are you sure you saw your query come through to the list? If you are unsure,check the mailing list browseable archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Type in the name of the list (with no -L or -D on the end) and click on the current month and year to check for your message. Now, look at the information you included in the text of your message. While it may be true that being concise is a virtue, when posting a query, your message must also be informative, clearly worded, and precise as to the question you are asking or data for which you are looking. Don't leave the list members in suspense. If you simply wrote "I'm looking for the parents of my g-g-g-grandfather George HICKENLOOPER without providing sufficient information for your potential cousins to recognize whether or not your George and his parents might be included in their files, or whether they have a book or other resource that might help you, they will not reply. If mailing list members do not understand your query -- at a glance -- and can't figure out what you are asking, chances are good that they will simply move on and delete your message, possibly shaking their heads while doing so. On the other hand, don't write a book when posting your initial query. Most people are not going to take more than a minute to review and consider whether your message is of interest to them or if they can help you. Save the extraneous details, which are not directly pertinent to your query, such as how George could still read without glasses when he died at age 97, for follow-up discussions with other interested researchers after you have received the initial responses. What you do want to include in your initial query, in addition to WHO, WHEN, and WHERE, is a brief explanation of what you already know and what you are hoping to learn. For example, you might state: "George HICKENLOOPER was born in 1790 in Rockingham County, Virginia, and married Mary LINGENFELTER in Virginia in 1819, based on church and census records that I found for this couple in Fairfield County, Ohio where they settled by 1820 when their first child was baptized there in the Lutheran Church. I'm trying to learn the identity of George's parents, who are my brick wall." A query such as this might draw the interest of mailing list members who have books on Lutheran marriages in Virginia or other information for the years you have listed, provided, of course, you posted it to VAROCKIN-L (Rockingham County, Virginia) and not to OHFAIRFI-L (Fairfield County, Ohio) mailing list. If you don't know specific dates, include a general time frame to assist those who might be able to help you. Put yourself in the place of the person on the receiving end of your query. Consider what information the readers will need to know to ascertain whether they can help you. Don't put yourself in the position of knocking on the door and finding no one on the other side to answer. Carefully consider the subject and text of your query as well as the subject of the mailing list to which you are posting your message, before you click that SEND button. *********************************** Permission to reprint articles from RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in RootsWeb Review: Vol. 6, No. 36, 3 September 2003.

    09/04/2003 03:23:10
    1. [BRENTZ] John BRENTZ - Blue Springs, MO - 1893
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRENTZ Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Q1C.2ACEAE/2 Message Board Post: "The Kansas City Journal" (Missouri) Monday, May 15, 1893 RODE OFF ANOTHER MAN'S HORSE John BRENTZ, of Blue Springs, was arrested yesterday morning, at the instigation of D. F. LEVASY, for horse stealing. BRENTZ came to Independence Saturday night and imbibed too much liquor. When ready to go home, he rode off LEVASY's horse. He stated that he was under the influence of liquor to such an extent that he did not know what he was doing. When he awoke yesterday morning, he started back to town with the horse, and was arrested by Marshal HULSE near the city limits. ====================================================== (I have no connection with this person but I'd appreciate knowing if you found this posting helpful.) ====================================================== neirbo

    05/23/2003 02:36:08
    1. [BRENTZ] Brenz/Brens/Brense
    2. Hi, I am new to the list. According to the 1880 Census, my great grandfather Richard Brense? came to the US in 1865. He was born in Feb 1854. The census states that he and his parents were from Bremen, Germany. At the time of the Census, he was living in Chicago, Illinois. He married Sarah Shanley in 1876. The marriage vows were taken at Holy Family Church on May Street in Chicago. There were (2) children reflected on the Census, E.Mary (later called Mayme) 1977 and Adeline. 1879. I have reason to believe that Adeline died a couple years after the Census was taken. Richard and Sarah had (4) more children Addie, Catherine, Florence and Richard.

    05/08/2003 11:32:24
    1. [BRENTZ] Thinking Caps...a bit offtopic ;)
    2. Lainee Denton
    3. Hiya everyone, If you have any favorite hints, tips, methods or ideas that you think might help others, share them. These could range anywhere from something you have learned through trial and error to an idea of something you have thought of but have never been able to put to the test yourself because you don't have the tools in your grasp that maybe someone else could actually make work. For me, I was constantly making notes on my copies of stuff I was getting, so I started making 10 copies of everything I got. The original (not necessarily a true original, but YOUR original) was then put up in a folder and the copies were used for notes. I know that most of you have something that works for you, and maybe you thought it would be offtopic for the list...well now you can send it. Lainee List Administrator _________________________________________________________________

    04/25/2003 09:01:14
    1. [BRENTZ] Aprils Genealogys Most Wanted
    2. GenMostWanted
    3. This goes out to a number of lists, not necessarily just the surname lists mentioned below. In each case, email the requester at the email with the query, not me. If you see or have seen these names in your searches then I am sure the posters below would be glad to hear from you also. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David D. Crow, b. 1803? KY found 1850 Fed Census MO (age 57, farmer) with dau. Mahala F. 19 and Martha A. 17 Can't find in KY. Wife? Parents? Harvey B. Hayes, b. 1811 Ishua, Cattaraugus Co., NY ... parents? mellington@io2online.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any information on a Robert f. Hayes born Nov.26 1863 or 64 I was told he had no sisters or brothers he is my great grand father. We were told his father and mother were not married. Married a fannie Jones in 1896. Any hlp in where to start. i know he lived and died in Suwannee Co. Florida. Any help. Thank You Chris pr21675@alltel.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For quite a few years I have been trying to find the birthplace of Matilda ALGER. I have her marriage certificate to Edward William WALKER on March 27, 1881 at the Trinity Church in the Parish of St. Mary, Newington, Surrey. She was living in Swan Street. According to the 1881 Census she then lived at 113 Southwark Bridge Road. She was 27 years of age. In the 1891 Census she had become widowed, her husband dying at 32 Sutton Street, York Road, Lambeth in 1889. She had four children, George, Edward, Alice and Louisa. According to this Census Matilda was born in Bermondsey. She was 35 years of age. Her father's name was John ALGER and he was a journeyman bricklayer. I just haven't been able to make any further progress and quite frankly don't really know what else I can do but I am ever hopeful which is why I want to know if there is a website for ALGERS in England. Thank you for your interest and help. Eileen Eileend@xtra.co.nz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

    04/24/2003 08:04:36