Hi Joni, Here is some of what I have. I don't go back any further with the Breedloves, either. But, I do go back a couple of generations---sort of---with Mary Parr. I looked at your Web pages, and I have a lot of questions for you in amongst the text about your data. I really am unsure of a lot of my data because it is often just assumption and guess, or not original document research. So, when I ask you where you got something, I really want to know, and am very definitely not being sarcastic or anything. I have, when it seemed necessary, put what little documentation or notes I had on that particular subject into the text as well. In the data, where I have dates, etc. in {brackets like this}, it is because I am only assuming that data, for one reason or another. Carole C. 8 Jun 1998 Parr Family Group Sheets Husband: Thomas Allaman #129 Born: BEF 1615 Died: BEF 1715 Ref: 3020 Father: _____ Allaman #221 Mother: _____ Unknown #222 Wife: _____ Unknown #223 Married: BEF 1630 in: {Essex/Glouster}, VA, USA his age: 15 her age: 15 Born: BEF 1615 Died: BEF 1715 Ref: 3021 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 M Thomas Allaman #84 ------------------------------------------------------------------********* ********************************* Husband: Thomas Allaman #84 died at age: 76 Born: ABT 1630 in: Essex/Gloucester, VA, Brit Col Died: 9 Mar 1706 in: Gloucester, VA, Brit Col Ref: 1510 Father: Thomas Allaman #129 Mother: _____ Unknown #223 Wife: _____ Unknown #123 Married: BEF 1660 in: {Essex or Glstr}, VA, USA his age: 30 her age: 30 Born: ABT 1630 Ref: 1511 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 F Judith Allman #83 Born: ABT 1660 {Essex/Gloucstr},VA,Brit Col Married: ABT 1685 {Essex}, {VA}, Brit Col Died: BEF 1760 sp. Phillip Parr #82 Born: BEF 1630 Died: 20 Dec 1699 Married: ABT 1706 {Essex}, VA, Colony sp. James Edmondson #119 Born: ABT 1660 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 M William Allaman #125 Born: AFT 1660 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ****************************************** Wife: Judith Allman #83 Born: ABT 1660 in: {Essex/Gloucstr},VA,Brit Col Died: BEF 1760 Ref: 755 Father: Thomas Allaman #84 Mother: _____ Unknown #123 Husband: Phillip Parr #82 died at age: 69 Married: ABT 1685 in: {Essex}, {VA}, Brit Col her age: 25 his age: 55 Born: BEF 1630 in: {Essex}, VA, Brit Col Died: 20 Dec 1699 in: Essex, VA, Brit Col Ref: 754 Father: _____ Parr #237 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 F Judith Parr #118 Born: AFT 1685 Married: AFT 1810 sp. _____ Faulkner #395 Born: AFT 1685 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 F Mary Parr #44 died at age: 68 Born: ABT 1695 Married: 1710/15 {Essex}, VA, Brit Col Died: ABT 1763 {Essex}, VA, Brit Col sp. Charles Breedlove #43 Born: ABT 1685 Died: 21 Feb 1758 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 F Constance (Constant) Parr #128 Born: AFT 1690 Thomas Edmondson #121 Born: AFT 1699 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Husband: James Edmondson #119 Married: ABT 1706 in: {Essex}, VA, Colony her age: 46 his age: 46 Born: ABT 1660 ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1 M John Edmondson #120 Born: AFT 1699 {Essex}, VA, Brit Col ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2 M Thomas Edmondson #121 Born: AFT 1699 Constance (Constant) Parr #128 Born: AFT 1690 ----------------------------------------------------------------- 3 F Eliza Edmondson #122 Born: AFT 1699 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************************** Wife: Judith Parr #118 Born: AFT 1685 Father: Phillip Parr #82 Mother: Judith Allman #83 Husband: _____ Faulkner #395 Married: AFT 1810 Born: AFT 1685 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************************** Wife: Mary Parr #44 died at age: 68 Born: ABT 1695 Died: ABT 1763 in: {Essex}, VA, Brit Col Ref: 377 Father: Phillip Parr #82 Mother: Judith Allman #83 Husband: Charles Breedlove #43 died at age: 73 Married: 1710/15 in: {Essex}, VA, Brit Col her age: 15 his age: 25 Born: ABT 1685 in: Old Rappahanock, VA,Brit Col Died: 21 Feb 1758 in: Old Rappahanock, VA,Brit Col Buried: Feb 1758 in: Old Rappahanock, VA,Brit Col Ref: 376 Father: _____ Breedlove #224 Mother: Kindness _____ #225 ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1 M Nathan Breedlove #485 Born: ABT 1716 Married: BEF 1778 Died: BEF 16 OCT 1786 Essex, VA, Brit Col sp. Mary Gore #440 [you have sp. Mary Tribble abt 1737 VA - where did you get her? Is she first wife, perhaps and Mary Gore a later spouse?] ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2 M Allaman Breedlove #486 died at age: 58 Born: ABT 1717 [you have b. VA -- where did you get state?] Married: AFT 1732 [You have m. Abt 1740 VA -- what did you get this from?] Died: ABT 1775 [You have d. bef. 17 July 1775 Essex, VA. Do you have a will or something?] sp. Susanna _____ #462 Born: ABT 1717 [You have VA. Is that an assumption?] Died: AFT 1774 [You have d. Aft April 1780, Essex, VA -- Will?] ----------------------------------------------------------------- 3 M Phillip Breedlove #478 Born: ABT 1720 Married: BEF 1758* Sarah _____ #461 Born: BEF 1748 Spotsylvania, VA* [You say Gore is her maiden name. That makes sense --- Where did this information come from? You have her born abt 1722 in VA. Where did that come from?] Born: AFT 1717 *Information from Bill Breedlove of Roots-List. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 4 M James Breedlove #489 died at age: 43 Born: ABT 1721 [You have him born in VA. Is that assumption?] Married: BEF 1741 {Lunenburg}, VA, USA [My putting Lunenburg here is an assumption on my part.] Died: 1764/67 [You have him dying in Lunenburg but no date. Why?] sp. Lucrecy _____ #476 Born: BEF 1726 Died: 1772 [You have her b. Abt 1720 in VA. Why? You have her dying bef 17 Feb 1772 in Essex, VA. What doc did that come from?] ----------------------------------------------------------------- 5 F Elizabeth Breedlove #464 Born: BEF 1725 sp. Reuben Daniel #463 Married: BEF 1740 Orange, VA, Brit Col Born: BEF 1725 [2/22/98 e-mail from Tom King: Spent the morning chasing down the Virginia line 1800 to 1850 and there are a lot of Breedlove's I just can't fit into the known line. Some are pretty obvious where they fit but I found a new Elizabeth Breedlove married to a Reuben Daniel in Orange Co., VA before 1740 with possible brother Thomas and sister Mary Breedlove. Now Thomas and Mary are known children of Charles and were both in Orange Co., VA, so this Elizabeth must be another child of Charles and Mary Parr Breedlove] ----------------------------------------------------------------- 6 F Kindness Breedlove #479 Born: ABT 1726 [Once again, is VA an assumption? Also, you have her married to William Tribble, do you have marriage record? Where did you get children?] Married: 14 Dec 1785 Richard Buck* Died: 1795* *Information from Bill Breedlove of Roots-List ----------------------------------------------------------------- 7 M Thomas Breedlove #41 died at age: 65 Born: ABT 1730 Old Rappahanock,VA,Brit Col Married: BEF 1752 VA, Brit Col(1) [I could never find any actual marriage info. Since you have them married abt 1750 in Essex, VA, do you have something on it?] Died: ABT 1795 Fredericksville, Albemarle, VA, USA(2) [Where did you get Spotsylvania Co., VA in 1785?] sp. Sarah Broaddus #42 Born: ABT 1732 [Once again, is VA an assumption?] Died: AFT 1810 [Since you have a specific place of death - Albemarle Co., VA - do you have a doc. of some sort. Mine was a guess due to seeing her somewhere around 1810, for instance.] (1) Ellen Byrne Notes: pg 71 Sarah Broaddus m Thomas Breedlove either 1758, Spotsylvania Co., VA or 1760 Orange Co., VA. However, if Thomas and Sarah are the parents of all of the children listed, they had to have been married before 1752. It is possible, however, that the early children (John, Thomas, and Charles) were with a different wife. Pg 27 of Ellen Byrne Book Spottsylvania Co., VA. Clk of Ct, no marriage rec for Thos and Sarah Breedlove 1760- Thomas Breedlove & wife Sarah, of Orange Co., VA sold land in Spottsylvania Co. To James Pritchett. Thomas had purchased this property in 1758 from Gawin Corbin of Westmoreland Co., VA. Lineage page of Estella Jane Jolley Ferguson on Supplemental DAR application: 7. The said Martin Breedlove was the child by blood line of Thomas Breedlove born ca 1730 at ______died at Albemarle County, Virginia after 1785 and his wife Sarah born about 1732 in Virginia died at albemarle County, VA on ______married before 1752. (2)Albemarle -- an order for road maintenance mentions Thomas Breedlove among residents of Albemarle -- 1785 tax list Thomas Breedlove 12 person 1800 tax list: Fredericksville Parish, dist of ... Thomas Breedlove three horses, one slave over 16 ----------------------------------------------------------------- 8 M Charles Breedlove #363 Born: ABT 1737 [VA? Is it an assumption?] Married: 14 Nov 1774 Old Rappahannock, VA, Brit Col sp. Sally Fletcher #466 Born: 1749 [Where did you get 1754 Essex Co., VA? Doc.?] ----------------------------------------------------------------- 9 M Robert Breedlove #487 Born: AFT 1730 Died: 1792* [I haven't been able to find any birth info. Where did you find birth and death data, i.e., b. 1738 in VA d: bef. 6 Feb 1792 Charlotte Co., VA?] *From Bill Breedlove of Roots-List: Son, Robert, d 1792. Executors of Robert's will sued by Kindness Breedlove and William Stembridge, children of James Breedlove, deceased, Court Order Book 10, p111, Nov 1795 (Charlotte County marriages, by Knorr). Will mentioned niece Sina. ------------------------------------------------------------------ 10 F Mary Breedlove #488 Born: AFT 1730 [I haven't been able to find any birth info. Where did you find birth data, i.e., b. Abt 1740 in Essex Co. VA. Also, you have her married to Peter Tribble, but no marriage date. Where did this come from?] ----------------------------------------------------------------- 11 F _____ Breedlove #490 Born: AFT 1730 Married: BEF 1758 Essex, VA, Brit Col sp. Robert Mann #477 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************************** Constance (Constant) Parr #128 Born: AFT 1690 Father: Phillip Parr #82 Mother: Judith Allman #83 Thomas Edmondson #121 Born: AFT 1699 Father: James Edmondson #119 Mother: Judith Allman #83 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************************** John Edmondson #120 Born: AFT 1699 in: {Essex}, VA, Brit Col Father: James Edmondson #119 Mother: Judith Allman #83 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************************** Thomas Edmondson #121 Born: AFT 1699 Father: James Edmondson #119 Mother: Judith Allman #83 Constance (Constant) Parr #128 Born: AFT 1690 Father: Phillip Parr #82 Mother: Judith Allman #83 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ******************************************* Eliza Edmondson #122 Born: AFT 1699 Father: James Edmondson #119 Mother: Judith Allman #83 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************************** William Allaman #125 Born: AFT 1660 Father: Thomas Allaman #84 Mother: _____ _____ #124 --[ ORIGINAL MESSAGE ]----------------- I've research back to Charles Breedlove & Mary Parr (no further yet). Please feel free to go see my Family Tree Maker Home Page at <http://www.family-tree.com/users/index.html> and use b/br/bre/Joni-L-Breedlove to get to it. Let me know what you think of it and if you know any data that would fill in some of my many blanks, I'll appreciate sharing! Hope this helps a little~ Joni Lyn Harris Breedlove