Tom, Your "Au, contraire" rebuttal of my Breedloves and Damerons presentation is an interesting massage of existing data, but I am unable to recognize any new facts or distinguishing proof. I have introduced new evidence; i.e. the File 476 Green Co, MO estate file of Charles Breedlove, deceased May 03, 1852 and the file 1895 Webster Co, MO estate file of James K. Dameron, deceased Dec 10, 1885. Without considering this new and enlightening detail, I fear your argument is incomplete. Your confusion is from your reluctance to consider that in 1852 there are two adult Charles Breedloves and two adult James Breedloves, (and perhaps more than one Amelia). One each from NC. One each from TN. The Charles and James from NC are probably the children of James and Nancy Simmons Breedlove of NC (no evidence of their living in TN), with other children being Spencer, John, and Eliza. One could argue it's an easy fit, but the ages of Spencer, John, James, and Eliza in MO do not violate the 1820 census for James Breedlove in Rutherford Co, NC. The Charles and James from TN are the children of William and Amy Breedlove. The two James Breedloves are easy to distinguish using the 1870 MO census. One (age 57) lives with John Breedlove household. One (age 45) lives with wife Cynthia. An age difference of 12 years and two separate households. That the wife of Charles Breedlove (deceased in 1852) is from NC is supported by her father James K. Dameron, Administrator, also from NC and the 1840 Caswell Co, NC census for James K. Dameron is an exact fit for the Dameron children on your family group sheet. Charles and Amelia Breedlove on the 1850 Greene Co, MO census are both from TN. Finally, File 476 Greene Co, MO probate for Charles Breedlove estate, deceased May 03, 1852, contains a note by John Breedlove for Eliza Breedlove with Charles Breedlove and Spencer Breedlove as security and dated on Sep 06, 1837, repeat Sep 06, 1837. In 1856 James Breedlove signs a similar note for Eliza with John Breedlove as security. This is the considerate, responsible conduct of brothers and sisters. However, the Charles Breedlove on the 1850 census (age 28) would have been only age 15 in 1837 and hardly eligible to be security on a legal note for guardianship. These are two distinctly different Charles Breedloves, and probably cousins. We may have to simply and respectfully disagree. Bill Breedlove