Thank you so much for your quick reply. >I think you were meaning that you were not sure of the parents of Jasper, not his son Jurdon. Yes, you're right. I did mean to say that there was question regarding Jasper's parents. I have information that the first census report found for Jasper (1860 census, Morgan Co., AL) shows him at about 2 years old and he is listed as "Jasper P. Snider". Do you have any information to support this? If so, was there any record of an adoption by Elisha? There is an old handwritten note in the family that is supposed to be written by "Jerd" Breedlove as dictated to him by his father, Jasper, since Jasper could not read or write. In this note, Jasper stated that he did not know who his parents were, only that his father was called "Jake". This leads me to suspect that his father might have been the Jacob Breedlove recorded at the same time as Elisha (on the 1860 census). I have not been able to locate further information on the Jacob/Barbra Breedlove family after 1860 census. I have not had a chance to follow up on the Portugese theory, but your suggestion regarding Suzanne Lary as being the source of this tale is plausable. I have just discovered today that there is a FHC within a few minutes drive of me. Once I am able to contact someone at the center, I plan to do further research and will let you know if I find anything. Cindy Breedlove Dicken tomking <tomking@freewwweb.com> on 11/30/98 02:50:41 PM Please respond to tomking@freewwweb.com To: Cynthia Dicken/AMS/AMSINC cc: Subject: Re: [BREEDLOVE-L] Re: Mormon Breedloves Cynthia_Dicken@mail.amsinc.com wrote: > I don't normally reply to the list, but in this case, I feel I should make an exception considering that the "Mormon Breedloves" referred to are my line and the Charles Breedlove that related the information regarding the early religious beliefs of my line is my father. I'm not so sure about the "out of wedlock" part, Mr. King's explanation of dates makes sense, but my grandfather, Charles Ernest Breedlove, had always said that our early ancestors were of the Mormon faith and that they only "converted" in the late 1800's and early 1900's, usually taking the faith of the spouse. That later conversion to the spouses religion is a strong part of the Mormon religion. I am not one, but have studied a lot of their ways as I use their Family History Centers for research. The earliest Mormons were persecuted and driven clear across the country to Utah so many of the early records of their marriages were destroyed and many of their followers lynched and murdered. After they reached Utah, they began practising polygamy to increase the size of their following. This may explain why Elisha seems to have different and younger wives. > > Also, so as not to confuse him with the LA Jordon Breedlove, my > greatgrandfather's name was spelled JURDON. He was Jurdon "Jerd" Pinkerton Breedlove b. 12 May 1881, d. 8 Feb 1959 (bur. @ Glen Alice Cemetery in Rockwood, TN), mar. 5 Apr 1903 to Clara "Clare" Sills b. 15 Nov 1889, d. 25 Apr, 1939. "Jerd"'s father was Jasper Breedlove b. 15 Apr 1856 in TN, d. 28 Apr 1902 in Dade Co. GA, mar. 22 Sep 1877 in Dade Co., GA, to Sarah Elizabeth Avans b. 25 Apr 1859 in TN, d. 12 Aug 1923 in Hamilton Co., TN. > There is still some questions as to who was actually Jerd's father, but we're working on it. The 1900 Census for Dade Co., GA lists Jurdon as a son of Jasper. Both Elisha and Jasper are on the 1880 census in Jackson Co., AL, ED 107, pg 9 and 10. Jurdon's brother Lacel is evidently named for Lecile B. Breedlove whose son Jordon lived in Lousiana. I think you were meaning that you were not sure of the parents of Jasper, not his son Jurdon. > My grandfather also said that our line of Breedloves had originally come from Portugal (which will probably really put a snag in some of the > theories I have read regarding the SC Breedloves). To me, it makes sense, considering that the Spanish and Portugese were making their presence known in the area around SC at about the same time the English were making their settlements further north. Suzanne Lary, who married Nathaniel Breedlove on 17 Sep 1768 in Charleston, SC was supposedly Portugese, which may tend to support your family legend. Didn't the early Portugese intermingle and later were known as Mulungeons? We have never found an origin for the name of Breedlove, and though we tend towards Wales and England, Portugal is not out of the question. Tom King