OK, this is a long thread and some does not apply here BUT the "Sites" I referenced are here and all you have to do is click on for the angelfire site. The other one most of you already have(www.sabbath etc.) Hey, that part showed up?? Willette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Waddup" <Lisa.Waddup@btinternet.com> To: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: John Bunyan/Thomas Breedlove > Hi Willette, I have looked again on google.co.uk and have found 2 sites > about John Bunyans court case written by Thomas Breedlove, I think they are > both very similar in what they say....hopefully it's not something you have > already found.... > > Lisa > http://www.sabbath-day.com/f1602g.html > http://www.angelfire.com/oh/DefiantGrace/JB.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> > To: "Lisa Waddup" <lisa.waddup@btinternet.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: John Bunyan/Thomas Breedlove > > > > Hi. again Lisa. Enjoyed your posts and all the info. Can you tell me how > far > > it is from down town London to Bedford,etc. I may be able to make a little > > time to go-see (?) A group of us will be on tour meeting in London June > > 7,2001 for a week (another ancestor tour) we have a little free time from > > our busy schedule. A week is just not enough for all I'd like to see and > > visit, but maybe there'll be a next time..Regards, Willette > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lisa Waddup" <Lisa.Waddup@btinternet.com> > > To: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:43 PM > > Subject: Re: John Bunyan/Thomas Breedlove > > > > > > > Sorry dates I cant tell you at the minute but I could get the info for > > > you....my parents still live in Harlington. I think he was only > detained > > > over night there and I beleive he was arrested from the Oak Tree, of > which > > > the tree is still called to Bunyan's Oak. I will ask my mum the > questions > > > as there are a few books about John Bunyan, and will keep your name on > > file > > > to return to you. > > > > > > Lisa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> > > > To: "Lisa Waddup" <lisa.waddup@btinternet.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:27 PM > > > Subject: John Bunyan/Thomas Breedlove > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me a little bit more about "Harlington Manor"(?) How long > > was > > > > J.Bunyan "detained" there, etc.(year--dates?) Was he "caught" > preaching > > > > under this oak tree?.....was he married then? Regards, Willette > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Lisa Waddup" <Lisa.Waddup@btinternet.com> > > > > To: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:59 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Union Workhouse > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, not quite sure how John Bunyan may fit into your research, > however > > > > > before he went to Bedford Prison he was caught in Harlington > > > Bedfordshire > > > > > and detained in Harlington Manor before being enprisoned. Also in > > > > > Harlington there is an oak tree which John used for preaching under. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this gives you some (although not asked for) usefull > information. > > > > > > > > > > Lisa > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> > > > > > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 4:28 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Union Workhouse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me find prison records (Bedford Prison) for John > > > > > > Bunyan(around 1660) and maybe again in 1675? Regards, Willette > Smith > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Brian Jones" <brianjones@cableinet.co.uk> > > > > > > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:58 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Union Workhouse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon John, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following is an extract from the Admittance and Discharge > Book > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > Bedford Union Workhouse: > > > > > > > Thursday 2nd August 1877 - Joseph Barnett - labourer - born > 1795 - > > > > > > > admitted - diet No 2 - admitted by order of the Relieving > Officer. > > > > > > > Thursday 11th October 1877 - Joseph Barnett - discharged dead - > > last > > > > > meal > > > > > > > supper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you can see Joseph Barnett, who is my gtgtgrandfather, was > only > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > workhouse for a short period and as a 82 year old man he was > > > probably > > > > > put > > > > > > in > > > > > > > there because he was infirmed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prior to his admittance he was living on his own in a cottage in > > > Great > > > > > > > Barford, which was another reason why he probably ended his days > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > workhouse, having nobody to look after him when he got sick. > The > > > son > > > > he > > > > > > was > > > > > > > originally living with remarried and emigrated to Canada in > 1875. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The actual copy of the pages relating to Joseph came from the > > > > > Bedfordshire > > > > > > > Records Office and given to me by someone actually visiting the > > > office > > > > > for > > > > > > > private study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although this occurrence is in the 1870's I should think there > are > > > > > records > > > > > > > for the period in the 1860's that you are interested in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > Bristol > > > > > > > England > > > > > > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/j/o/n/Brian-Jones/ > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "John Pettifer" <pettifer@onetel.net.uk> > > > > > > > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: 04 March 2001 15:21 > > > > > > > Subject: Union Workhouse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone kindly advise whether any records of inmates of > > the > > > > > Union > > > > > > > > Workhouse, Bedford are available for the 1860s - either at > > > Bedford > > > > RO > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > elsewhere? My gg grandfather James PETTIFER died there on 23 > > Feb > > > > > 1864, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > I am told that this does not necessarily mean that he was a > > long- > > > > term > > > > > > > > inmate, as workhouses were also places for nursing care of the > > > > dying. > > > > > He > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > aged 74 and a widower. In 1854 he was a maltster living in > Dane > > > > > Street. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks, John Pettifer (in Aylesbury, Bucks) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to > > > > > > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > Enter Bedford in the box > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to > > > > > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > Enter Bedford in the box > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > > > > > GENEVA: > > > > > > http://users.ox.ac.uk/~malcolm/genuki/geneva/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Willette, Just to warn you, both of these sites basically repeat the story in Liberty magazine. I've tried contacting the son of the author of that article twice--once by email, once leaving a voicemail message, and never got a reply. I suspect that the article is fiction, and we'll never know until the author answers someone's question or someone tells us where these supposedly historic papers reside. Cheers, Marc Breedlove At 11:56 AM 3/10/01 -0800, you wrote: >OK, this is a long thread and some does not apply here BUT the "Sites" I >referenced are here and all you have to do is click on for the angelfire >site. The other one most of you already have(www.sabbath etc.) Hey, that >part showed up?? Willette >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lisa Waddup" <Lisa.Waddup@btinternet.com> >To: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:35 AM >Subject: Re: John Bunyan/Thomas Breedlove > > >> Hi Willette, I have looked again on google.co.uk and have found 2 sites >> about John Bunyans court case written by Thomas Breedlove, I think they >are >> both very similar in what they say....hopefully it's not something you >have >> already found.... >> >> Lisa >> http://www.sabbath-day.com/f1602g.html >> http://www.angelfire.com/oh/DefiantGrace/JB.html >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Willette Smith" <willette@bigisland.com> >> To: "Lisa Waddup" <lisa.waddup@btinternet.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:52 AM >> Subject: Re: John Bunyan/Thomas Breedlove ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/