Well, well, well. The recent exchanges on our forum seem to exhibit our corporate frustration with the paucity of source records to prove the early Virginia Breedloves. I think that if I dug through my earliest personal files I could come up with a Breedlove coat of arms along with some worthless list of Breedloves that told me next to nothing. At the time I think I paid about $25 for that service. The lesson I learned was that my own meager attempts at genealogy were worth more than what I received for my $25. This experience simply taught me to be responsible for my own research. Since I joined this Breedlove-L forum, I have come to appreciate the real experts in Breedlove genealogy --- the many of you who continue to search for proof, those who challenge the status quo, and those who just happen to have the source information I need. Thanks to you all! Tom, Marilyn, and others have expressed my sentiments well. While I have the greatest respect for the LDS Family History Library, Hope Perry Breedlove's book, and the conventional genealogies expressed ( I continue to use these sources regularly), for my own direct line I feel that I have to rely on my own interpretation of circumstantial and skimpy evidence --- where there is no absolute proof. For example, I consider my direct relationship back to Charles and Sally Fletcher Breedlove is proven. But their ancestrial line back to Charles and Mary Parr Breedlove cannot be proved by any of us as far as I am aware. Assuming this is so, I have undertaken personal studies, arguments if you will, to account for the James Breedloves, the Kindness Breedloves, and the Spencer Breedloves to support the blood line that makes the most sense to me. So, my blood line for the early Virginia Breedloves may differ from some conventional genealogies, but I will be responsible for it and pass this version to my children until some one of you posts some new information that I can embrace. I will keep watching with great anticipation for that new insight or r evelation. Bill Breedlove