Bill & Jan Breedlove wrote: > YOUR: "Son of Alleman Breedlove and Susannah Braxton (or Daniels or > Madison?).> Have only been able to trace one of the daughters, Mary Oglevy Breedlove who married John Williamson. Am not sure of Madison. Could be the one who married Elizabeth Morgan in Orange Co, VA on 8 Jan 1784." > Could you please provide your source reference or rational for this > relationship? I am confused because of the several Williams at this > time; William, son of Charles and Mary Parr Breedove, William, son > of Thomas Allaman, and William, son of Alleman. I think we could > all use your assistance here in knowing how you make this particular > attachment. Bill. et al, There are no exact references to any of these relationships but all of the others can be eliminated. 1. William, UNPROVEN son of Charles and Mary, evidently lived all of his life in Essex County. There are quite a few Breedlove's living in Essex in censuses after 1800. His wife Millicent could NOT be an Madison as there are no known Milly's or Millicent's in any of the early Madison families in Virginia according to several noted researcher of that family. 2. Am not sure who Bill means by William, son of Thomas Alleman. The William who is the son of Thomas Alleman by an unknown wife, was married to an Anne and died by 1732. To my knowledge there is only one Thomas Alleman Breedlove, born long after 1800. 3. William, son of Alleman & Susannah, was evidently married to a (Lucy?) Madison. There is a family legend in their daughter Mary Oglevy's line that they were related to President Madison. There are several Lucy and other female Madison's of that period who could be the wife of this William Breedlove. Alleman's will was witnessed by Robert Mann, father of the Joseph Mann who is executor of this William's will. Have not been able to find if this Joseph Mann was the husband of William's daughter Elizabeth, but there are several Mann families in the Henrico area I am working on. William's son Madison may be the Madison Breedlove that I have long suspected did not belong to Thomas and Sarah Broadus Breedlove. There are no documents that show the Madison who married Judith Buckner as being either the son of Thomas and Sarah, or a brother of one of the known proven children. Two Madison daughters married to two Buckner brothers, either of which may be the parents of Judith Buckner. Have never found out the parents for Judith Buckner so this part is yet to be proved. If memory serves me correctly, Judith Buckner was an orphan and her guardian Elizabeth Morgan signed for her to marry Madison Breedlove, which is why some records give Elizabeth as his wife instead of Judith. It would make sense that if Alleman named a son Braxton for his wife Susannah's family, that Alleman's son William could name a son Madison after his wife's family. Madison and Judith had a son James Waller. Waller and Oglevy families are connected to the Madison family, so all of these families seem to be connected to JUST this one branch of the Breedlove family. As I said, there is no positive evidence showing the William who died in King William County is a son of Alleman, but there are no other known William Breedlove's with close ties to the same families. PS My ten year old copy of the other King William Record book is faded out but it still appears to me that the name is ALLEMAN Breedlove, not Clifford as Mark had reported. Haven't seen the printed abstracts so I am not sure where the Clifford came from. Tom King