Hi Willette, Do you have a last name for Linda and an old e-mail address? The archives should contain e-mail contacts, but not necessarily current ones. I used to keep a list of Breedlove researcher contact addresses grouped according to ancestor. I may have a more current one. Tom

Have been waiting to hear from you again. Point of my interests was what you do have in your storage of earliest files. (if you so choose to address that now or have had time to even review your old files,or interests to do so,etc.) You wrote " I think if I dug through my earliest files I could come up with a Breedlove coat of arms....along with some worthless list of Breedloves that told me next to nothing. At the time I think I paid about $25 for that service...etc." Yes, it has been a long time since then,however, I would be interested in that list of Breedloves (worthless or not to you, one persons garbage may be anothers treasure.) If you would accept $25 for that mentioned info. I would be happy to contribute to your time finding the above mentioned. ..before I take my next step with the England firm,I presume, is the very same firm you received your info from back-when. Willette

Tom & others, About the Catherine Digges/William Herndon: I found in the Dallas Public Library a book, The Herndons, Part VI (929.20973 H 558 YH 1992). I believe the author is Dudley L. Herndon, Jr. of Waterford, CT. There is a nine page discussion of the Herndon/Digges Marriage. After reading this discussion, I was convinced. Martha Kahn

I am looking to contact "Linda" who posted info. on Letty Edwards (married to Benjamin Watkins Breedlove who had son John Watkins Breedlove) anyone have email address for her? Willette

-----Original Message----- From: Willette Smith <willette@bigisland.com> To: breedlove-@roorsweb.com <breedlove-@roorsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:33 AM Subject: Breedlove origin,history,coat of arms,etc. I have received a email reply from Cecil R. Humphrey of England regarding the 1999 letter I wrote them and a recent request for a survey of Breedlove immigrants to America (from U.K.) for the earliest possible family's. For those interested please email me personally. Willette

Aloha Bill. Please email me personally regards the subject material.Willette. willette@bigisland.com.

Can someone help me with the following line? I don't seem to have seen anything about them. Carroll and Robert Breedlove sons of Melvin Lurcey (sp?) born in Ashley Co. Ark; son of Henry Fletcher Breedlove, also possibly born in Ashley Co. Ark. I don't have any dates on this group, I only know that Carroll died within the last five years and Robert died about fifteen years ago. Carroll lived and died in Chicot County Ark, I'm not sure about Robert. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Carolyn

Hello Listers, I received this site from another list that I belong to. Thought it may come in handy to look up little out-of-the way places. I tried it out, and it does work for many of the places. About 95% of what I typed it, it returned. Lisa Sigmon Russell Co. VA researching: Whited/Whitehead/Breedlove/Sigmon/Martin/Winters/Oakes/Oaks/Hicks/Hix/ Balew/Dalton/Mayle and others "TopoZone http://www.topozone.com/ is a great reference tool for genealogists. This site offers access to all maps of the U.S. Geographical Survey six inches to the mile scale. You enter the name of a town, hill, cemetery, or other map feature, and it will take you to a list of places where that place name occurs in the United States. Click on the one in the right state (and/or county), and it displays the detailed map. You can zoom in to an extremely detailed level. Who needs an atlas when the vastly more detailed TopoMaps is available on your computer thanks to the Internet. Find the detailed map of any place in the U.S. at this site."

Hi everyone, I know most of you out there, even though I haven't been around for awhile. Most of you do know me by name. I have been off line for about a year, but wanted to everyone know that I am back and reading away. My email use to be GENIE456@aol.com, notice use to be. I now get my email at GENIE2YOU@aol.com. I look forward to getting back into the swing of things and being able to contribute to our common search. Also, please note that I now only live about 50 miles from Warren County, Virginia and can go down there to the Court House about once a month. The only requirement is that you have at least some CLUE of what you would like me to look for and share that knowledge with me. Of course I go right past Frederick County Virginia and can stop there. Wishes to all and glad to be back, TAKE CARE Jeanne Ludwig GENIE2YOU@aol.com

A transcript of the "Breedlove papers" article from Liberty magazine is available at: http://www.sabbath-day.com/f1602g.html It is introduced at http://www.sabbath-day.com/f1602a.html Again, it is presented as an historical transcript, but I have my doubts. There's no discussion of where these papers are stored. I'll share more with you as I learn more. Cheers, Marc Breedlove

I believe I have found over the web the son of the author of this article described by Brian Breedlove below. The son's genealogy page indicates that his father the author, Howard V. Pendley III, is alive. I'll try to find him and see what I can discover about this piece. I think it may have been fiction, but the author should know! Cheers, Marc Breedlove At 12:21 PM 10/7/00 EDT, you wrote: > i am forwarding a copy of part of an article i found interesting some time >ago. i hope you find it interesting. > Brian H Breedlove > > i have located and scanned the first page of the article i referenced >in my prior note. i am sending it to you and several others for their review >and comment. I find it interesting in light of the comments on the net with >respect to the origin of our family name. one theory proposes that the name >was a colonial invention and another a misspelling or pronunciation of a name >that originated in a different language such as german. i make no conclusion >other than to say that it appears that professor Hendley has done some >scholarly work and it shows that at least one breedlove lived and worked in >england at the time indicated. > >For those that read this portion of the article, note that i have left out >the remainder because it did not scan well and is not pertinent to the point >re: origin of the name. Also please note that the author and the magazine >are identified so as to give proper attribution to the author. > > > The Breedlove Papers > > "PROCEEDINGS, being a true account of the trial of John Bunyan, Tinker, of >Bedford-shire." Well, maybe not true. But the author of Pilgrim's >Progress-the bane of freshman literature classes and the boon of upwardly >mobile English teachers-did spend 10 years in an English prison for his >religious convictions. So, what if a Yale professor on sabbatical in London >did find, in the musty papers of Thomas Breedlove, verbatim accounts of... > >By Howard V. Pendley III > > >One of the most significant finds re-lated to the legal history of England in >the years immediately following the Commonwealth Period was the discovery. >among the papers of one Thomas Breedlove.ofnearly a thousand verbatim >accounts of primarily minor trials conducted between 1660 and 1675. Almost >nothing is known of Breedlove's life, except that he was one of a number of >legal scribes, the seventeenth-century English equivalent of a court >stenographer. These men accompanied magistrates from place to place on court >days in order to record the disposition of mostly lackluster cases that, even >then, cluttered the legal system. >What makes the Breedlove collection so valuable is the virtual dearth or >firsthand >accounts of legal proceedings during this period of English history. The >public rec-ords of these trials were, almost without exception, lost in the >wake of the plague outbreak and subsequent Great Fire of Lon-don in 1666. How >it happened that Thomas Breedlove possessed copies of the tran-scripts of the >trials remains a mystery to historians, and may never be solved, Breed-love >himself passed from the scene after 1675, as unremarkably as he entered it >three and a half decades earlier. We may be grateful, however, for whatever >fortuitous circumstances led to his making and pre-serving his copies, for >among the sheaves found were those recording the proceedings of His Majesty, >King Charles II, against one John Bunyan, tinker and sometime preacher >of a relatively new and strange-as well as illegal-cult known as Baptists. >What fol-lows is the account of that trial, essentially as Thomas Breedlove >recorded it. > >IFor purposes of readability, the editor has updated Breedlove's language and >spelling. No changes have been made in the substance of his record. The >reader may focus on the proceedings themselves, without constantly having to >refer to the copious footnotes that would necessarily accompany the archaic >language of the origiual.-Ed.J > >Howard V. Pendley III is pastor of the Bedford Baptist Church in Bedford, >Vir-ginia. > >

Have to admit I havent been paying much attention to the many Breedlove messages. I have a great deal of confidence in Marilyn Owen's research. Olive Breedlove Smith of FL who did research about the time Hope Breedlove started, is deceased, also Dorothy Rylander of Lubbock, TX, but the following I received from Dorothy in 1965: Essex Co VA 11 July 1710, payment to Edw Moseley by Charles Breedlove. 2 May 1724, deed bk 17, pg 322, Thos & Constant Edmondson, his wife, Charles Breedlove and wife Mary sell to Thos Fitzjeffries a parcel of land in Essex Co Va. 50 ac of woodland, part of a patent of 185 ac granted to John Webster, decd, now belonging to Constant edmondson and Mary Breedlove, heirs from Mary Webb, decd, dau of John Webster, with all houses, etc. 10 June 1701, will of Phillip Parr, 30 Dec 1699, proved Essex Co Va, to eldest dau Judith Parr, land in Middlesex Co Va, formerly given to her by her grfather, Thomas Allaman. To dau Mary Parr, my manor plantation to dau Constant Parr and w. Judith Parr, all the rest of land, exec: father in law ? Allaman, bro in law, Richard Covington. more about Judith Allaman. 21 Feb 1758 will of Charles Breedlove was lost, Nathan Breedlove was admr, John Dyke, sec. nothing else in records. Ch of Charles and Mary Parr Breedlove BELIEVED to be: 1-Nathan Breedlove, will Essex Co Va, 31 Oct 1774 2-Allaman Breedlove 3-James Breedlove shown in rec as bro of Nathan, may be father of the Charles Breedlove who m Sally Fletcher,(elsewhere there is info on this Charles) anc of Miss Eula Haskew of Brownwood, TX. there was a James Breedlove in Lunenburg Co VA by 1746 4-Robert Breedlove, Lunenburg Co VA 1751, land grant in Charlotte co VA of 400 ac 5-Thomas Breedlove m Sarah, lived Spotsylvania Co VA, Orange and Albemarle Cos. 6-Mary Breedlove m Peter Tribble 7- ? dau who m a Mann? There was an Allaman Mann in Amelia Co later, may have been other daughters. Ch of Thomas and Sarah Breedlove (within the last few years of course we have learned that Sarah was Sarah Broadus, dau of Richard Broadus and Bridgit Vaughan. Thomas in Col Francis Taylor's co in Revolution. 1785 census Albemarle Co Va. Thomas had 11whites, another rec says 12 wh persons-believe the following to be their ch: 1-John Breedlove b 5 Apr 1752 (from pension rec) drafted Culpeper Co VA, 1782, moved to Ohio 1833 2-Charles Breedlove, Col Francis Taylor's Co in Rev. m Theodosia Clevenger, after the war 3-Thomas Breedlove , Culpeper Co 1785, one poll 4-Cornelius Breedlove b 1765 -1800 census in Albemarle Co Va, 1 poll, says William is his brother 5-William Breedlove b 1761, in Rev m 1785, Mary Watts, Simpson Co Ky, 1833, lived Warren Co Ky, his bro Martin helped him get pension, recd land in Ky, 1835- (Hope this is all correct as he is Marilyn Owen's ancestor) 6-Phillip Breedlove, Culpeper Co 1785, 1 poll, served 21st Culpeper Militia 7-Benjamin Breedlove b 1762, Orange Co Va enl Albemarle 1781, age 19, dark hair, grey eyes, 5 ft 8 in tall, bro of William 8-Madison Breedlove m Judy Buckner, 1785, liv, Albemarle Co Va 9-Martin Breedlove 1771 (born, bro of Wm. m Eliz Carr - dau of Thomas Carr and Anne Sanders--lived Warren & Simpson Cos Ky ancestor of Ellen Byrne Just wanted to share the earliest info I collected- for better or worse--that was 35 yrs ago. Ellen

aloha rhonda breedlove treat. i do not find the names you have mentioned on my own lineage. i have been working on my own lineage, you may have seen where i have requested email address from certain people on this line or who have worked on it. if i run across any of your people's names on my search journey i will let you know. in the meantime perhaps someonelse does have some info for you.good luck. willette

aloha dot avery, send your email address to me and i will get back to you asap. willette

This obituary appeared in today's Danville Register and Bee: Harriett Bennett DANVILLE, Va. - Harriett Louise Millner Breedlove Bennett, 82, died Saturday, Oct. 2, 2000, at Danville Regional Medical Center. Born Jan. 22, 1918, in Beckley, W.Va., she was a daughter of Posey H. Millner and Annie Inge. She was a tobacco laborer and member of Union Hall Baptist Church. Survivors include one sister, Emma B. Smith of Ettrick; two brothers, Vincent T. Breedlove of Hampton and Willie B. Breedlove Jr. of Bloomington, Ill., and 10 stepchildren. A funeral will be held 1 p.m. Friday at Cunningham & Hughes Memorial Chapel with the Rev. Delaware Clark officiating. The family is asked to meet at the funeral home at 12:30 p.m. Friday. The family will receive friends from 7-8 p.m. Thursday at Cunningham & Hughes Funeral Home.

Dear All, Most of you know this, but it should be reiterated: please DO discuss genealogy as it relates to this family. Discuss, debate, argue... respectfully. Please DO NOT disparage, publicly, the words of your fellow genealogists on this mailing list. My fellow researchers: we are presented here with a choice. This mailing list can be moderated or unmoderated. We've enjoyed over four years of unmoderated discussion here. This is your choice and this is your mailing list. If anybody has anything to say (especially if it's negative) on this issue, send it PRIVATELY to me. Let's get back to genealogy. Tom [listadmin, BREEDLOVE-L] _________________________________________________________________________ This mail sent via toadmail.com, web e-mail @ ToadNet - want to go fast? http://www.toadmail.com

On 4 Oct 2000, Tom Jones wrote: <snip> I hear the sound of flamethrowers igniting. <snip> Tom, You're right. And I've been warming mine up too. Not a good thing. Sorry, but I consider some of the material appearing in the past 10-12 days to be not much more than tripe. I don't need my mailbox filling up with it. For this reason, I'm withdrawing from this list. Maybe I'll be back in a couple of months, maybe not. To Marilyn Owen, a public thank you for the help you've given me personally, off the list. To Tom King and Bill Breedlove, thanks for the discussions I've been able to monitor through the list; very interesting indeed. Tom Breedlove

Fellow researchers, I will take Tom's advise and change the discussion. I'm looking for any information on Ruben Breedlove. He is found in Hamilton Co. TN in 1850 with his wife Pricilla (Bolton) Breedlove. We strongly believe they died in Hamilton Co. TN, But cannot find proof. As far as we know they had at least 2 sons, Elisha Breedlove b. Nov. 1825 in Spartanburg SC. , Jacob Breedlove birth unknown. We would like to find Rubens parents. Suzie Breedlove

Dear Subscribers, I hear the sound of flamethrowers igniting. This forum, since it's inception over four years ago, has been a place for scholarly debate, research, information exchange, and requests for research assistance. There are a lot of different personalities here and points of view -- we hope that we instruct newcomers, gently, in sound genealogical research through sober presentation of facts, sources, methods, etc. And newbies -- listen and learn from those with experience. Strong opinions stem from folks who have a lifetime investment and pride in their work. If we disagree, lets do so agreeably. If any of us takes personal offense at the tone or direction of the debate, then please keep the issue off-list. There's no place here for personal accusations or name-calling. All this does is create a hostile environment that chokes off communication. Better yet, if somebody would like to change the course of the genealogical discussion, then by all means, do so by posting! Keep in mind that we're all working toward the same goal. If we disagree, lets do so agreeably. Any time is a great time for us to post queries, theories, etc. on our lines! Tom [listadmin, BREEDLOVE-L]

As I read Willett and Bill's posts, I had no compulsion to take their assumptions as fact. I understand they are merely discussing what "MAY" have been. I am ashammed as a list member for the way in which Willett is being treated. She has explained her line of research and why. Please give the rest of us on the list credit for being able to differ fact and assumptions. To keep attacking Willetts beliefs indirectly through concern for others is quiet childish. Suzie Breedlove (2nd form for post)