Pat and other BRAY Pals, Thank you for your reply. I do have both of Mrs. Reese's books,THE BRAYS OF FISHER RIVER, and have found them very helpful. Actually, I should have been more specific, I guess, in my post. I meant I was seeking others searching that line. What I have proof of: My grandfather was James Edward("Ed") BRAY, b. July 31, 1879 in Barbourville, Knox Co., KY, s/o Bryant BRAY and Martha Jane HOWERTON. (This from his death certificate, d. Feb. 2, 1921, construction cave-in in Devol, Cotton Co., OK.) Bryant BRAY was 23 when he married Martha Jane HOWERTON,17,from TN, April 7, 1876 in Barbourville, Knox Co., KY. "at James HOWERTON"s, according to wedding application dated 5 April, 1876. I believe: from census records, Reese's data, and notes I have received from others: This Bryant was the son of aforementioned James BRAY,who married Mary "Winny" GOLDEN, d/o Stephen GOLDEN and James was the s/o the "Old" Bryant BRAY from Surry Co., NC. who was also married to another Martha, called "Patsy". One group sheet I have from an "older" researcher(age AND timewise) says Bryant was the son of Peter and Martha(SCOTT)BRAY, Peter, being b. in England ca. 1718. In other words: Peter+MarthaSCOTT>Bryant+Martha?>James and Winney GOLDEN>Bryant+Martha HOWERTON>James "Ed"+ Sofronie STEVENSON. Another group sheet shows James(the elder)b.1826 in Hancock Co., TN., marriage 14 June 1849 in Knox Co., KY, and d. 14 Sept. 1863 Jessimine Co. KY buried in Camp Nelson, KY. Lived in Knox, Pulaski, and Whitley Co.s ,KY. This information was compiled by Carlyn Bray MILLS, whose greatgrandfather was James' and Winney's son, John R.(A.) BRAY,(Bryant the second's brother)who married Mary C. BAYS 17 Oct.1881. It was from 1996 and was passed on to me last year, with mail to her address in Ludlow, KY being returned, and her trail lost. Would very much like to locate her, if anyone has a connection or information, as well as confirmation or corrections. I also have some other land, tax, military records I'd like to share and compare with others. Are there others working this line?(further down?) With all this info and the proximity of all of the various ones in the Cumberland/Appalachia area, I haven't connected with any *Family* on this line. Who did "Old Bryant" marry? (Patsy who?) Thanks for all your help. Nancy