The address below is for a primitive page I built with my genealogy software, on the Parson's Technology home pages server. Ignore the second and third "John Bray" entries. Parson's won't let me delete... I have included a BRAY section and an OLVER section. Privacy for the living is ensured. A GEDCOM download is available in there somewhere. Cut and paste to surf on over to my modest accomplishment (it literally took two minutes!). http://www.familyorigins.com/users/b/r/a/Ward-R-Bray/ ______________________________ A letter from the "keeper of the tree"