Peter May, Thanks Peter for your info about Joseph Bray.I am not even sure my Joseph Bray was born in England or Ireland, and I have assumed he was English because he was a Sapper in the 10th Company, royal Engineers in Co. Cork (Spike Island) Ireland, My first info is when he applied to his C O for permission to marry in 1857. He then married Margaret Chapman there in 1858.. My Grandfather, Joseph Bray, (later known in Australia as Chapman, ) was born 1858 and a daughter Mary Jane was born in 1862. Mother Margaret died a few days later, probably as a result of childbirth. That is all I know althogh it is said he was sent to Canada as a Corporal and deserted ther in 1863. I am not sure if this is true though.I have been batleing the PRP (Nat. Arch.) site for over a month trying to find out more about him but find it a very frustating dite to navigate and have got niwhere. To make it harder I am now seriously site impaired in my old age so pardon my typing mistakes. It is also hard to resd the sites but I won't give up while I can still manage something. Regards, Lex Campbell, Sydney Australia.