In a message dated 7/21/2004 1:03:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, j.w.bray@worldnet.att.net writes: Carol, In response to your several messages about the veracity of and reliability of sources of information for early Bray history. There are generally several types of sources from which we draw our information about our line of Brays: Primary sources - These are original documents such as wills, land records, legal proceedings, ships' manifests, etc. Secondary sources - Books, journals, newsletters, etc. that cite primary sources. Other sources - Family bibles, letters, and family oral histories. These are often very unreliable particularly the oral histories. "Bray Nostalgia" is not a book but a newsletter that circulated a number of years ago and relied mainly, from the issues I've read, on secondary and other sources. It was well written and well received. One of the main problems of our current genealogical research is a heavy reliance on the internet as a source of family history information. Very few researchers, myself included, do not have the time, money, or other resources to do research in primary sources. To travel to distant cities/countries and spend hours, days, and months poking through archives searching for needles in village hay stacks. Well said I think. I tend not to trust much in the way of Internet Info anyway. I have proof back to Henry M Bray. Beyond that may take DNA data. I hold the 110 years old data to be suspect, and think some one left a generation out, or just grabed the wrong Henry Bray. However, the early use of the name Henry and Edward together seems to shorten a long list of likely Henry Brays. Iam