Hi James I have all of Cane Creek's records here at the house. I also have all of Hinshaw's books. My NC vol is on film. Not sure if my view still works, been years. Tomorrow I'll pull it out and see what I can find. I found nothing in the Va vols to add. Checked with Edna Reece's work, "Bray's of Fisher River" and found the same information. Nothing new. I'll let you know what Hinshaw says. Glee