This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRAY, NEEDHAM, HOLMES Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/5gF.2ACIB/1239 Message Board Post: I am hoping that someone can help me. I have the marriage certificate of my husbands great grandparents: Samuel Bray and Ellen Needham. They were married on August 25th 1867 in the Sheffield district though I am unable to decipher the church - it looks like the Parish Church in the Parish of Weiten ??? Both parties in this marriage were widowers and Ellen's fathers name was Henry Holmes (a miner). Samuels father was Robert Bray. According to the certificate Ellen was 36 at the time of the marriage (making her born in about 1831). Samuel was either 37 or 57 I am unsure which. I have been unable to find any information about these families - is there anyone out there that can shed some light. Thanks