> I agree with the point Jerry BRYAN is making. Here is how I > understand the family. But I have been told since my John BRAY's line > wasn't Quaker (Jerry Bryan and I are of the same BRAY line) he couldn't > be John BRAY s/o Edward & Sarah MAYNARD BRAY. So we disagree with some. > > I believe that Edward BRAY m. Sarah MAYNARD is the much younger > brother of Henry BRAY that marries Mary "Marie" WILSON. > >The three "candidates" I have seen as the parents for Edward BRAY m. Sarah >MAYNARD are: > >1) Henry BRAY m. Elizabeth JONES (this couple dies in London) > >2) Henry BRAY m. Ann HODGEKINGS (but this Henry is thought to be Scottish >or Irish not English si I feel this one is dismissible) > >3) or the one I lean towards Edward BRAY b. ca 1685 who I feel is the >father of both Edward BRAY m. Sarah MAYNARD and Henry BRAY m. Marie >WILSON. This Edward was in Maryland for sometime before heading on into >Virginia and died a very old man. A man that old could easily have >fathered sons with an age gap similar to Edward & Henry BRAY. I have not dug into my paper trails lately but this Edward BRAY the Elder may be the nephew of the Cardinal BRAY that established the Library system in Maryland, and then returned to serve the Church in London for the remainder of his life. I recall reading a story Edward BRAY at age 16-19 stowed away on a boat claiming his Uncle the Cardinal would pay after hitting the man he was apprentinced to in the head and mistakenly thinking he had killed him he fled to America. Lived to be like 113ish if my memory isn't failing me. >I have looked and cannot disprove my hypothesis. But can't say I have >proven it either. Blast away people, I can take it. Sometimes you have >to risk being wrong to discover what is right :) > >james wall

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5gF.2ACIB/1212 Message Board Post: The following obit is here with permission of the Bradford County Telegraph, in Bradford County, Fla. Isaac Bray STARKE-Infant Isaac David Bray was born and died on Thursday, Dec. 4, 2003, at Shands Alachua General Hospital. Infant Bray is survived by his mother and father, William and Tonya Bray of Starke; his maternal grandparents, Pamela and Steve Craig of Gainesville, Ga. and Stanley and Wanda Moris of Alto, Ga.; his paternal grandmother Janice Bray of Homer, Ga.; his maternal great-grandparents the Rev. W.S. and Martha Morris of Alto and his paternal great-grandparents William and Maudie Lewallen of Homer, Ga. Graveside services were Dec. 6, 2003 at Crosby Lake Cemetery with the Rev. John Sawyer officiating. Archie Tanner Funeral Home of Starke was in charge of arrangements. Note: I am of no relation, but my sympathies go out to those of you who are. This is here as a lasting memorial for infant Isaac Bray.

I have a Thomas Bray from Knox Co. TN. He would be my g-g-grandfather. I have very little information on him and would like to know more. Please send any information you have to CABWEBB@aol.com. Thanks in advance! Carol

I would also like to talk to you ted14133 as this is also my line. Could you please email me directly at braygenealogy2002@hotmail.com Marie >From: ted14133@aol.com >Reply-To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BRAY-L] Re: Bray-Henderson Co/Madison Co. TN - HELP >Date: 5 Dec 2003 21:09:46 -0700 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Bray >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5gF.2ACIB/1195.1 > >Message Board Post: > >I have some bray from TN. I think Thomas Bray >B 3-14-1851 was B.TN. he was my great grandfather I have info on the brays >let me know more about your line we may have the same line. > > >==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5gF.2ACIB/1211 Message Board Post: I have a 1924 Meriden (CT) High School yearbook. One of the members of the class is Margaret Bray. Her yearbook caption reads: "We do not know much about Margaret Bray for she has been very quiet during her High school career. Nevertheless, she was quite studious and we are sure that she will be a success in life". I am not related to Margaret, but will be happy to send a copy of her picture to anyone who is. I am not a member of your list, so please email me privately if interested.

PS thanks for the info Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bray" <j.w.bray@worldnet.att.net> To: <BRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: RE: [BRAY-L] Edward Bray and Sarah Maynard > Jerry, > >From the information I have seen over the past 10 years or so, your > explanation of the Edwards, et al, is accurate. Thanks for the > clarification. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Bryan [mailto:c24m48@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:05 AM > To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BRAY-L] Edward Bray and Sarah Maynard > > >I hope someone can help me with this genealogy , I have a couple of > >questions .the Edward Bray > >that married Sarah Maynard , from what I see and believe Edward died > and > >was buried abt > >1760 . I have also that he is the son of Henry Bray and Mary Wilson . > Why > >does Henrys Will circa > >about 1790 mention son Edward if he is deceased ? Am I mixing up my > Brays > >? > > I don't profess to have the answer to your question. I would only point > out > that some researchers believe that Edward Bray husband of Sarah Maynard > was > the son of Edward Bray (let's call the elder Edward by the name Edward > Sr. > just for the sake of the argument). Edward Sr. is then believed to have > > been the brother of Henry Bray who married Mary Wilson. > > I have not researched this issue enough personally to have an informed > opinion. But the "two Edwards" model does resolve a lot of date > problems. > Well, the model should really be a "three Edward" model. There should > be an > Edward son of Henry Bray and Mary Wilson, an Edward Sr. brother of Henry > and > brother-in-law of Mary Wilson, and an Edward son of Edward Sr. It would > > then have been Edward son of Edward Sr. having been the one who married > Sarah Maynard. > > Jerry Bryan > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months > @$9.95/month! > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > Bray Family GenConnect Query Board at: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Bray > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

That explains why edward Bray could die in 1760 and still be mentioned in old Henrys will in 1790 there must have been two Edward Brays , one the son of Edward one the son o f Henry Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message -----

>I hope someone can help me with this genealogy , I have a couple of >questions .the Edward Bray >that married Sarah Maynard , from what I see and believe Edward died and >was buried abt >1760 . I have also that he is the son of Henry Bray and Mary Wilson . Why >does Henrys Will circa >about 1790 mention son Edward if he is deceased ? Am I mixing up my Brays >? I don't profess to have the answer to your question. I would only point out that some researchers believe that Edward Bray husband of Sarah Maynard was the son of Edward Bray (let's call the elder Edward by the name Edward Sr. just for the sake of the argument). Edward Sr. is then believed to have been the brother of Henry Bray who married Mary Wilson. I have not researched this issue enough personally to have an informed opinion. But the "two Edwards" model does resolve a lot of date problems. Well, the model should really be a "three Edward" model. There should be an Edward son of Henry Bray and Mary Wilson, an Edward Sr. brother of Henry and brother-in-law of Mary Wilson, and an Edward son of Edward Sr. It would then have been Edward son of Edward Sr. having been the one who married Sarah Maynard. Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

Jerry, From the information I have seen over the past 10 years or so, your explanation of the Edwards, et al, is accurate. Thanks for the clarification. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Bryan [mailto:c24m48@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:05 AM To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BRAY-L] Edward Bray and Sarah Maynard >I hope someone can help me with this genealogy , I have a couple of >questions .the Edward Bray >that married Sarah Maynard , from what I see and believe Edward died and >was buried abt >1760 . I have also that he is the son of Henry Bray and Mary Wilson . Why >does Henrys Will circa >about 1790 mention son Edward if he is deceased ? Am I mixing up my Brays >? I don't profess to have the answer to your question. I would only point out that some researchers believe that Edward Bray husband of Sarah Maynard was the son of Edward Bray (let's call the elder Edward by the name Edward Sr. just for the sake of the argument). Edward Sr. is then believed to have been the brother of Henry Bray who married Mary Wilson. I have not researched this issue enough personally to have an informed opinion. But the "two Edwards" model does resolve a lot of date problems. Well, the model should really be a "three Edward" model. There should be an Edward son of Henry Bray and Mary Wilson, an Edward Sr. brother of Henry and brother-in-law of Mary Wilson, and an Edward son of Edward Sr. It would then have been Edward son of Edward Sr. having been the one who married Sarah Maynard. Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== Bray Family GenConnect Query Board at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Bray ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I hope someone can help me with this genealogy , I have a couple of questions .the Edward Bray that married Sarah Maynard , from what I see and believe Edward died and was buried abt 1760 . I have also that he is the son of Henry Bray and Mary Wilson . Why does Henrys Will circa about 1790 mention son Edward if he is deceased ? Am I mixing up my Brays ? My ancestor Wm Poe died about 1800 his widow Susannah Poe was named executor along with Henry Bray Jr They having posted bond with Henry Bray Sr . I am trying to identify the exact Bray family tha t Sr and Jr belonged to if they were related to old Henry that died circa 1790-93 Later John W Poe has signed as a witness at least one Bray document dealing with a land sale of a Bray for a Pascha.l I am trying to find the connection between the families , I have not been able to identify widow Susannahs name before she married William perhaps she was a Bray also , I know that a earlier William Poe was married to old Henrys daughter Elizabeth , There is evidence that this is not the same William . possibly a son , I suspect that the William that married Elizabeth are the William and Elizabeth Poe that migrated to Surry, County NC . who had at least two children Elizabeth that married James Masters and Raliegh Poe , If any one has any insight into this family I would be very! grateful Patricia Caviness Perkins

I wonder if this information came from something I posted in the past.

Carol... I have not researched that line yet, I'm still working on my direct line. I do have your Thomas Bray married to Jane Aileen ( Jennie) Welch but that's all I have. Sorry I can't be more help. Joyce in Indiana -----Original Message----- From: CABWEBB@aol.com [mailto:CABWEBB@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:11 AM To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRAY-L] Monroe County, Kentucky Brays Joyce, Yes, that's my line. My line goes from Henry Bray to Richard to Thomas to Edward Gamaliel Bray to John Briggs Bray (my grandfather). My great-grandfather, Edward G. Bray, was born in Knox Co. TN. I am trying to find his mother who was married to a Thomas Bray. It was written in some family notes that her name was Jennie Aileen Welch. There is a Jane Welch in one of the census lists for Monroe Co. KY, but no husband is mentioned. I also have Thomas Bray as being born circa 1811-12 and his death date as circa 1840's. No places are mentioned. Do you go this far in your line? Thanks for your help, Carol ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Joyce, Yes, that's my line. My line goes from Henry Bray to Richard to Thomas to Edward Gamaliel Bray to John Briggs Bray (my grandfather). My great-grandfather, Edward G. Bray, was born in Knox Co. TN. I am trying to find his mother who was married to a Thomas Bray. It was written in some family notes that her name was Jennie Aileen Welch. There is a Jane Welch in one of the census lists for Monroe Co. KY, but no husband is mentioned. I also have Thomas Bray as being born circa 1811-12 and his death date as circa 1840's. No places are mentioned. Do you go this far in your line? Thanks for your help, Carol

I was interested to know if anyone from Monroe Co., KY has a William Monroe Bray, b. TN. His son's name is William Monroe Bray so we assume the William M. Bray is also a Monroe. He married Kitty Ann Sanders 1876 Jackson Co., AL. I cannot find him in the 1880 census but his wife and two children are living with her father William Redman Saunders/Sanders. I know this is a longshot but many people named their children the name of the county they knew. Pam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5gF.2ACIB/1195.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: What year was Harriet Bray born. I don't have no names like that yet.

Carol, I have a Henry and Edward Bray who went to Monroe County, Kentucky from North Carolina. Wonder if we connect. My line is Henry, Edward, Richard and Sarah Bray who married Jesse Newton Gass. Joyce in Indiana -----Original Message----- From: CABWEBB@aol.com [mailto:CABWEBB@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 AM To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRAY-L] Martha Francis Bray Is this the same branch of the Chatham Co. Brays? I am descended from Henry Bray and Edward Bray whose descendents went to Monroe Co. KY. Do you know about this lineage? Please let me know if there is a connection. Thanks, Carol

Is this the same branch of the Chatham Co. Brays? I am descended from Henry Bray and Edward Bray whose descendents went to Monroe Co. KY. Do you know about this lineage? Please let me know if there is a connection. Thanks, Carol

Hi Mike I have loads of history about this family. Martha Francis, also known as Fanny Bray, had a sister by the name of Francis, who married into the White family. I have this line back to 940 ad...no that isn't a mistake... It is work I have done for over 24 years. Yes, it is Martha that I can not find out about after the death of her son Edward (known as Eddy Bray). His son's settled around Walnut Cove, NC. My Martha Francis moved around alot following her son and his family as he was a farm work for many people during his life. So they never owned land. She would have been my gggrandmother. I do know that her sister Francis ended up in Winston Salem, but Martha did not live with her. Tell me about your Francis maybe I can make a link for you. Your cuz in time, Glenna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5gF.2ACIB/750.1.1 Message Board Post: I know that Martha's mother was Jamima Bray. Was John Bray a cousin of her mothers or what? Do you know what caused David Fox's death? You can contact me direct at Beesareus@aol.com Martha's son Henry B. Fox was my great great grandfather. He was reportedly bushwhacked near Ft. Riley Ks. I would like more details on that too if anyone knows for sure.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bray Miller Brady Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/5gF.2ACIB/1123.1 Message Board Post: > Hello Pam, my name is Troy Brady. I hope all is well and I also hope that > you are a long lost part of the family that I have been searching for - > > Here is our story: > > William R. Bray, born abt. 1855 and died about 1929. William and my great > great grand mother, Sarah Medora Miller, who were next door neighbors, had > an affair when she was 14 and he 19. Their efforts bore my great > grandfather, Joseph Brady and/or Donaldson. William and Sarah never > married. However, when Joseph was 2, she married Jeremiah Donaldson and for > some reason on Joseph's birth certificate, she crossed out his last name of > Bray and wrote in Brady - thereby creating the beginning of our Brady > lineage! > > From what I have been able to learn, William's mother was Margaret who was > born about 1829. She must have remarried a Wesley Wilkins as William is > listed as his step-son in the census records. > > At some point, William married Anna J. Wilson on June 17, 1889, in Pickaway > County, OH. Anna was born abt 1865 and died in 1933. They had three > children: Beebee, Ovan M., and Mary Annie. > > I look forward to hearing from you.