Marsha Thank you for sharing the information Glee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5gF.2ACIB/1213.1 Message Board Post: James Simmons married Sarah Bray in Marion Co., GA in 1848. They moved to Alabama and were first in Barbour and later Dale Co. James is buried in Dale. Sarah lived with her son James and died in Santa Rosa Co., FL. When they left Georgia, Sarah's mother, also named Sarah moved with them. She is buried in either Barbour or Dale(I'm still searching) for her grave. Don Summers

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5gF.2ACIB/1194.1 Message Board Post: Sorry Robin! Is it Mr./Mrs/ or Ms? Anyway I just found your message last nite(12-30-03). My Name is Raymond High, My mother's name was Edith Elizabeth Bray and her mother was Edith Elizabeth Preston. By the time you receive this message you will probably have received an E-Mail from my brother James Foster High, whose is now building a web page for the Highs,Brays, and Subletts. I or I should say we would be very happy to here from you. Raymond High

This may help some -- according to the Pike County Marriage Records Book 1830 -1900, the following Brays (I have only the book listed by grooms) lists: Green C Bray m. Elizabeth Warick Aug 10, 1865 Jasper N Bray m Julia Ann Flowers Apr 26, 1874 John Bray m Angeline Goodson Jan 15, 1891 John N Bray m P C Dowling Dec 20, 1866 L H Bray m Rebecka Barefoot Jan 15, 1879 Peter J Bray m Sarah Ann Lord Jan 31, 1856 William Bray m Roseana A Dudley Oct 27, 1867 William H Bray m Mrs. J A Joiner Mar 1, 1885 Pike County is a neighboring county of Dale/Coffee/Geneva Martha Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <braycottonmartin@mybluelight.com> To: <BRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 1:58 AM Subject: [BRAY-L] Decendants of BRAY families in Dale/Coffee/Geneva County and surrounding area from 1885-1910. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: BRAY > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5gF.2ACIB/1213 > > Message Board Post: > > Trying to find decendants of any BRAY families that lived in Dale/Coffee/Geneva County and surrounding area from 1885-1900. > Thanks for your help, > P.J. > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRAY, GORDON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5gF.2ACIB/1214 Message Board Post: Has anyone more information about Alfred K.H. BRAY or his wife Jeannette H. Fosbery Bray [née GORDON; b.1896 Sydney] who married in 1927 in Woollahra, NSW ? Any info, particularly about any children, would be much appreciated!! Alistair London

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRAY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5gF.2ACIB/1213 Message Board Post: Trying to find decendants of any BRAY families that lived in Dale/Coffee/Geneva County and surrounding area from 1885-1900. Thanks for your help, P.J.

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Let's make this even more complicated. Below is a listing of Henry and Edward Brays and their passages and events as they relate to the American Colonies: 1652, 10 Oct., Bray, Henry, Lancaster Co., VA, Passage paid of Henry Bray by Elias Edmonds., Cavaliers and Pioneers of VA 1623-1666 1664, July, Bray, Edward, Accomack Co., VA, Indentured servant(?), Abstract of VA Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666 1666, 14 May, Bray, Edward, Surry Co., VA, Passage paid of Edward Bray by Capt. William Cockerham, Cavaliers and Pioneers of VA 1623-1666 1677, 25 June, Bray, Henry, Ship, Increase, passenger sailed for New England., Complete book of Emigants, P.W. Coldham., 1990 1684, 20 Aug, Bray, Henry, Ship, Hound, passenger sailed from London for Maryland, The Complete Book of Emigrants 1661 to 1699, P.W. Coldham, Gen. Pub. Co., 1990, Baltimore, MD 1684, 30 Sept, Bray, Henry, Ship, Love, Passenger, sailed London to Maryland, The Complete Book of Emigrants 1661 to 1699, P.W. Coldham, Gen. Pub. Co., 1990, Baltimore, MD 1685, 26 Sept, Braye, Henry, Ship, Love, Passenger, sailed London for Maryland, The Complete Book of Emigrants 1661 to 1699, P.W. Coldham, Gen. Pub. Co., 1990, Baltimore, MD 1685, 8 Sept, Bray, Henry, London, England, Named in will of Nicholas Painter to receive 4,000 acres in Dorchester Co., MD also named as executor., American Wills Proved in London, 1611-1775, PW Coldham. 1685, 9 July, Bray, Henry, Ship, Hinde, Passenger, sailed London to Virginia, The Complete Book of Emigrants 1661 to 1699, P.W. Coldham, Gen. Pub. Co., 1990, Baltimore, MD So, do we pick one of these Henry or Edward Brays to be the ancestor of the Henry Bray of Chatham County, NC who died in 1812? I gathered this information a number of years ago while doing research on the Brays. About the only thing that may be for sure and even then there is no way of proving it: Around the early 1750s in Frederick County, MD a Henry Bray sold some cattle. He signed the bill of sale with his "mark". This mark was a conjoined H and B. He or his relative used the same "mark" to sign a land deed in Orange County, NC in the early 1760s. Henry Bray who died in Chatham County, NC in 1794 used the same "mark" to sign his will. As far as I know this is the only documentation that we have that indicates that Henry Bray, d. 1794, Chatham County, NC was in the American Colonies at least by the early 1750s. Where he came from and who he married is, as far as I am concerned pure speculation. James Bray -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Bryan [mailto:c24m48@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:59 AM To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRAY-L] 1790 Census, Chatham County, North Carolina Here's some additional information to throw into the pot of the recent discussion of the various Henry's and Edwards. The only extant copy of the 1790 Chatham County census was copied from the original in alphabetic order. Hence, it is not possible to draw any conclusions about who was living close to whom. There are supposed to be five columns of data for the 1790 census: 1) number of free white males age 16 or older, 2) number of free white males less than 16 years old, 3) number of free white females, 4) number of other free persons, and 5) number of slaves. In Chatham County, the enumerator added a sixth column which is simply the sum of the other five columns. I have annotated the entries with my best guesses as to everybody was. Further discussion of the two Edwards will follow. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- p.210, Edward Bray Sr. 322007 males >= 16 bef. 1774 3 Edward Bray Sr. males < 16 1775-1790 2 females 2 other free 0 slaves 0 total 7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- p.210, Edward Bray Jr. 102003 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 Edward Bray Jr. males < 16 1775-1790 0 females 2 other free 0 slaves 0 total 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- p.220, Henry Bray 102003 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 Henry Bray Jr. males < 16 1775-1790 0 females 2 Sarah Yokley other free 0 slaves 0 total 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- p.220, Mathias Bray 132006 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 Mathias Josiah Bray males < 16 1775-1790 3 females 2 Isabella Edwards other free 0 slaves 0 total 6 Mathias Josiah Bray was the son of Henry Bray Jr. and Sarah Yokley. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- p.220, James Bray 112004 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 James Bray males < 16 1775-1790 1 Henry Bray females 2 Anne Welch other free 0 slaves 0 total 4 James Bray was the son of Henry Bray Jr. and Sarah Yokley. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- p.220, Wm. Bray 101002 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 William E. Bray males < 16 1775-1790 0 females 1 Margaret Wilson Brooks other free 0 slaves 0 total 2 William E. Bray was the son of Henry Bray Jr. and Sarah Yokley. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- It's natural to jump to the conclusion that Edward Sr. and Edward Jr. were Edward who married Sarah Maynard and their son Edward who married Nancy Anna Dowdy. The trouble with that conclusion is that Edward who married Sarah Maynard died in 1760. I wonder if Edward Sr. and Edward Jr. were really father and son. Sometimes in old records when there were two people with the same name, the elder one was called Sr. and the younger one was called Jr. (e.g., Edward the elder and Edward the younger) irrespective of family relationships. I even have records of an Elizabeth Bryan Sr. and an Elizabeth Bryan Jr. in my Bryan records. So I don't know who the two Edwards were. Jerry Bryan (P.S., Elizabeth Bryan Sr. and Jr. were sisters, the elder one being the daughter of Allen S. Bryan Sr. and his first wife Elizabeth Hubbard and the younger one being the daughter of Allen S. Bryan Sr. and his second wife Elizabeth McSpadden. To make matters worse, Allens S. Bryan Jr. married Elizabeth Underwood -- far to many Elizabeth's in that family! The Sr. and Jr. notation for the sisters Elizabeth appeared in the Allen S. Bryan Sr. family bible.) _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Here's some additional information to throw into the pot of the recent discussion of the various Henry's and Edwards. The only extant copy of the 1790 Chatham County census was copied from the original in alphabetic order. Hence, it is not possible to draw any conclusions about who was living close to whom. There are supposed to be five columns of data for the 1790 census: 1) number of free white males age 16 or older, 2) number of free white males less than 16 years old, 3) number of free white females, 4) number of other free persons, and 5) number of slaves. In Chatham County, the enumerator added a sixth column which is simply the sum of the other five columns. I have annotated the entries with my best guesses as to everybody was. Further discussion of the two Edwards will follow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.210, Edward Bray Sr. 322007 males >= 16 bef. 1774 3 Edward Bray Sr. males < 16 1775-1790 2 females 2 other free 0 slaves 0 total 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.210, Edward Bray Jr. 102003 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 Edward Bray Jr. males < 16 1775-1790 0 females 2 other free 0 slaves 0 total 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.220, Henry Bray 102003 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 Henry Bray Jr. males < 16 1775-1790 0 females 2 Sarah Yokley other free 0 slaves 0 total 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.220, Mathias Bray 132006 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 Mathias Josiah Bray males < 16 1775-1790 3 females 2 Isabella Edwards other free 0 slaves 0 total 6 Mathias Josiah Bray was the son of Henry Bray Jr. and Sarah Yokley. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.220, James Bray 112004 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 James Bray males < 16 1775-1790 1 Henry Bray females 2 Anne Welch other free 0 slaves 0 total 4 James Bray was the son of Henry Bray Jr. and Sarah Yokley. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.220, Wm. Bray 101002 males >= 16 bef. 1774 1 William E. Bray males < 16 1775-1790 0 females 1 Margaret Wilson Brooks other free 0 slaves 0 total 2 William E. Bray was the son of Henry Bray Jr. and Sarah Yokley. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's natural to jump to the conclusion that Edward Sr. and Edward Jr. were Edward who married Sarah Maynard and their son Edward who married Nancy Anna Dowdy. The trouble with that conclusion is that Edward who married Sarah Maynard died in 1760. I wonder if Edward Sr. and Edward Jr. were really father and son. Sometimes in old records when there were two people with the same name, the elder one was called Sr. and the younger one was called Jr. (e.g., Edward the elder and Edward the younger) irrespective of family relationships. I even have records of an Elizabeth Bryan Sr. and an Elizabeth Bryan Jr. in my Bryan records. So I don't know who the two Edwards were. Jerry Bryan (P.S., Elizabeth Bryan Sr. and Jr. were sisters, the elder one being the daughter of Allen S. Bryan Sr. and his first wife Elizabeth Hubbard and the younger one being the daughter of Allen S. Bryan Sr. and his second wife Elizabeth McSpadden. To make matters worse, Allens S. Bryan Jr. married Elizabeth Underwood -- far to many Elizabeth's in that family! The Sr. and Jr. notation for the sisters Elizabeth appeared in the Allen S. Bryan Sr. family bible.) _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx

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Sorry Jeri I didn't find anything under that name Glee

There are no listings of Poe in the Cane Creek Records. They may have been members of Deep Creek or Spring. Glee

James thanks if you stumble on any Poe records at cane creek especially as they pertain to Bray I would be obliged Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "james e. wall" <jewall@students.wisc.edu> To: <BRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: [BRAY-L] Monthly Meeting Records > > The HINSHAW book of Quaker genealogy is about 2 miles from my apartment at > the Wis His Soc. I can go an look up anyone whose records are in doubt if > you identify the MM, the state and location, and the BRAY and allied family > names to look for. I have most of Cane Creek MM copied I believe > already. And a few stray pages here and there. > > And to answer Pat's open question: To the best of my knowledge Mahala > BRAY BROWNs letter might be the genesis of calling Henry BRAY's wife Marie > WILSON. But my record digging has not focused too explicitly on Henry & > Marie and others would know more about this particular couple than I would > claim to. I think Jerry BRYAN's observation that there were two distinct > Henry BRAYs being melded into one makes sense. Just because I was > reluctant to dismiss the age 113 claim, doesn't mean I was enamored of it > either. My GEDCOM agreed with Jerry BRYANs with the exception that I > deleted the generations prior to Edward BRAY the father of Henry m. Marie > WILSON & Edward m. Sarah MAYNARD because I couldn't make sense of what I > had. And I had deleted all dates for Henry as well. It was on my needs > verification to do list (longest list known to mankind). And after reading > Pat's report on William LEAKEY I have downgraded him to a footnote noting > the claim, and noting the lack of verification for it. I was not aware he > was suspect until I read Pat's posting here. Thanx Pat! > > james wall > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi James I have all of Cane Creek's records here at the house. I also have all of Hinshaw's books. My NC vol is on film. Not sure if my view still works, been years. Tomorrow I'll pull it out and see what I can find. I found nothing in the Va vols to add. Checked with Edna Reece's work, "Bray's of Fisher River" and found the same information. Nothing new. I'll let you know what Hinshaw says. Glee

The HINSHAW book of Quaker genealogy is about 2 miles from my apartment at the Wis His Soc. I can go an look up anyone whose records are in doubt if you identify the MM, the state and location, and the BRAY and allied family names to look for. I have most of Cane Creek MM copied I believe already. And a few stray pages here and there. And to answer Pat's open question: To the best of my knowledge Mahala BRAY BROWNs letter might be the genesis of calling Henry BRAY's wife Marie WILSON. But my record digging has not focused too explicitly on Henry & Marie and others would know more about this particular couple than I would claim to. I think Jerry BRYAN's observation that there were two distinct Henry BRAYs being melded into one makes sense. Just because I was reluctant to dismiss the age 113 claim, doesn't mean I was enamored of it either. My GEDCOM agreed with Jerry BRYANs with the exception that I deleted the generations prior to Edward BRAY the father of Henry m. Marie WILSON & Edward m. Sarah MAYNARD because I couldn't make sense of what I had. And I had deleted all dates for Henry as well. It was on my needs verification to do list (longest list known to mankind). And after reading Pat's report on William LEAKEY I have downgraded him to a footnote noting the claim, and noting the lack of verification for it. I was not aware he was suspect until I read Pat's posting here. Thanx Pat! james wall

Do any of you have information any Bray from Phillips or Avon ME, ca 1800-1864? I've run into a dead end with Melzar (d. 6/1852) who is buried at Pease-Thompson Cemetery along with 2 wives and several children. Any help is appreciated. Jeri Bray Paradise San Jose, CA -----Original Message----- From: GleeSyt@aol.com [mailto:GleeSyt@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:58 PM To: BRAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRAY-L] Monthly Meeting Records There are no listings of Poe in the Cane Creek Records. They may have been members of Deep Creek or Spring. Glee ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 12/28/2003 6:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, caviness@conninc.com writes: > wonder would not the Quaker records give the name of Jerimiah Poe s > parents ? > yes, I don't have all the MM records, but will check the ones I have Glee

Sorry I hate it when I have to say that .it was not Hannah Mills but a Doane that married Jerimiah Poe it was a later Isaac Poe that married a Hannah Mills this was a lot later so were not one in the same Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Perkins" <caviness@conninc.com> To: <BRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [BRAY-L] Henry & Edward BRAY > also in response to the list of marriage witnesses I see that the > the witness Hannah Mills ,I believe she married Jerimiah Poe , who I believe > is a brother to John W Poe I believe that they are the sons of William Poe > and Susannah Poe. William Poe died in about 1799 his widow Susannah Poe and > Henry Bray Jr were appointed executrix and executor they having posted bond > with Henry Bray Sr . both John and Jerimiah are the correct age according to > the 1800 census for chatham co which list Susannah and several children two > are the correct age to be John W Poe and Jerimiah Poe that married Hannah > Mills , also both John and Jerimiah named their oldest daughters Susannah . > I wonder would not the Quaker records give the name of Jerimiah Poe s > parents ? > Patricia Caviness Perkins > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GleeSyt@aol.com> > To: <BRAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [BRAY-L] Henry & Edward BRAY > > > > > > Wittness at the marriage of Henry and Kezia Bray > > > > Hannah Mills > > Ann Huff > > Jemima Jones > > Sarah brooks > > Sarah Pike > > Ann Elmore > > David Brooks > > Aaron Mills > > William Walker > > Nathan Pike > > Ashley Johnson > > Richard Jones > > > > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

also in response to the list of marriage witnesses I see that the the witness Hannah Mills ,I believe she married Jerimiah Poe , who I believe is a brother to John W Poe I believe that they are the sons of William Poe and Susannah Poe. William Poe died in about 1799 his widow Susannah Poe and Henry Bray Jr were appointed executrix and executor they having posted bond with Henry Bray Sr . both John and Jerimiah are the correct age according to the 1800 census for chatham co which list Susannah and several children two are the correct age to be John W Poe and Jerimiah Poe that married Hannah Mills , also both John and Jerimiah named their oldest daughters Susannah . I wonder would not the Quaker records give the name of Jerimiah Poe s parents ? Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message ----- From: <GleeSyt@aol.com> To: <BRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [BRAY-L] Henry & Edward BRAY > > Wittness at the marriage of Henry and Kezia Bray > > Hannah Mills > Ann Huff > Jemima Jones > Sarah brooks > Sarah Pike > Ann Elmore > David Brooks > Aaron Mills > William Walker > Nathan Pike > Ashley Johnson > Richard Jones > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

thank you I know that there is a connection to my Poe family but I don't think that they were Quaker . Patricia Caviness Perkins ----- Original Message ----- From: <GleeSyt@aol.com> To: <BRAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [BRAY-L] Henry & Edward BRAY > > Wittness at the marriage of Henry and Kezia Bray > > Hannah Mills > Ann Huff > Jemima Jones > Sarah brooks > Sarah Pike > Ann Elmore > David Brooks > Aaron Mills > William Walker > Nathan Pike > Ashley Johnson > Richard Jones > > > ==== BRAY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >