This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/HWF.2ACEB/1306.1.1 Message Board Post: This link in the family is not mixed. I believe the Bradshaws and Goings came out of France, then Ireland...although I could be wrong since being wrong is not hard to do. John Bradshaw came from England, I believe. Where the Bradshaw/Bratcher line connects before Virginia, I do not know.