This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.2 Message Board Post: I don't know if any of this applies to any of us, but I came across it googling. Could it be that Vespasian is not Richard's father????? if Vespasian was born in 1545 he'd be 65 when he had Richard, right or am I just getting all of this confused? anyway, back to my first point, i found this website that i thought people might be interested in, not that all or any of it may necessarily apply to us. I know we are not of the Mayflower line.