This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: well, i am starting to get confused! lol. i have seen it posted on rootsweb by a "jawgen" that has Vespasian's bday as abt 1560. I have also seen it posted here on ancestry.com abt 1590. If it was 1590, that means that Vespasian's first son Richard was born when he was 15 or 16. (i know this son did not survive but....) does this sound reasonable? i have no clue. email me and i will send you the email address to England that will do searches for St Thomas members. i was also told to check familysearch.org I will be doing both. I hope we can get this cleared up too---i will have to find the person who posted here that thought that Richard's dad was WM Bradford. I don't know. Haven't seen any evidence that supports that yet though. Pls keep in touch. sorry to hear about your husband.