There is a new list called FirstShips@yahoogroups.com that is very interesting. Here is an excerpt Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:07:59 -0400 From: "scanbar" <SCANBAR@prodigy.net> Subject: Convict Ships A while ago there was a discussion about the convict ships. There is more information at: http://www.genealogy-quest.com/collections/allconvicts.html which was on Cyndi's list. Barbara