Hi all. I know that this particular topic may not interest most of you, but because it's about NC, I wanted to let everyone know. In addition to the talk I'm giving about apprenticeship records in NC on Monday, I will also be giving a talk the following week (October 17th) about free African Americans in NC before the Civil War. I think that on one level this is relevant to the Wilder's because I'll be talking about how these free African Americans fit into the larger scope of society. I've been working on a project for the past 5 years documenting free African Americans in North Carolina before the Civil War. For the most part, I'll be giving an overview of what I've found out over time and case studies as well. The talk will be in my regularly scheduled Southern US chat at http://www.genealogyforum.org (follow the link in the top menu to the chat room) on Monday night, October 17th from 9-10pm. This talk kicks off an open house that the forum is having in celebration of being online for 2 years. There will be special chats going on all week and also that Wed. is a research party! What is the research party? Bring any thing you need help finding (and anything you can volunteer to do lookups in). All hosts in the room will be there to volunteer to do lookups in various sources. I'm not sure how long the party will last, but we are also willing to help you out of the chat room if we run out of time. I will be there and have numerous NC resources at hand to do lookups in, including the full NC Civil War Roster. There are 15 volumes of this series though, and no index for all the books (each book has it's own index) so what I will be doing is taking down names and contact information and doing the lookups after the chat and getting back to folks with what I find. To see an example of what this series of books have to offer, go to my Cabarrus Co. website (http://cabarrus.ncalhn.org). Ok, I think that is it! Please feel free to contact me with lookup requests, but I would love to see some folks at genealogyforum.org! Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

Hi all! As most of you know, I am an archivist/librarian and this just came to me from a list I belong to for archivists. Below is a press release from the National Archives about a new online map collection. Hope this helps someone! Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List moderator Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, Kern, Wilder-North http://www.gendepository.com (The Genealogy Depository) -----------------Press Release---------------------- Library of Congress Makes Confederate Maps Available Online: A collection of Civil War era maps, many of which were used by Gen. Robert E. Lee and Gen. Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson, is now available from the Library of Congress (LC) online at http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/maps/hotchkiss/. The maps that are deposited in the LC's Geography and Map Division collection were obtained from Mrs. R.E. Christian, the granddaughter of Maj. Jedediah Hotchkiss (1828-1899), who served as a topographic engineer in the Confederate Army. "The Hotchkiss Map Collection" contains cartographic items by Hotchkiss, who made detailed battle maps, primarily of the Shenandoah Valley. Some of these maps were used by Gens. Lee and Jackson for their combat planning and strategy. Several of them have annotations of various military officers, demonstrating their importance in the military campaigns. Most of the collection focuses on Virginia and West Virginia, but they also cover other states and even other countries around the world. In its entirety, the collection consists of 341 sketchbooks, manuscripts and annotated printed maps. This online presentation includes all the materials in the Hotchkiss Map Collection, some of which also appear in the complementary American Memory collection "Civil War Maps, 1861-1865" at http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/civil_war_maps/. Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

To all Bradford listers: The Bradford Y-DNA project is seeking descendants of Samuel Bradford of Worcester Co., MD for testing in order to find Samuel's DNA signature, and to provide a good basis for comparing his signature with the DNA of other lineages in an attempt to try to discover who Samuel's parents might have been. We already have two participants in the project (my father and I) descended from Samuel, through his son Adam Bradford, then Isaac Neely Bradford. We are particularly interested in individuals descended from other sons of Adam Bradford and also in individuals descended from Samuel's son James. Funding is available for a certain number of participants to defray the expense of the test. Note: since we test the Y chromosome, which is only passed from male to male, participants must be descended from Samuel Bradford in an unbroken male line. Thanks for listening, Adam Bradford Co-Administrator, Bradford Y-DNA Project adam.bradford@gmail.com

To all Bradford listers: The Bradford Y-DNA project is seeking descendants of Samuel Bradford of Worcester Co., MD for testing in order to find Samuel's DNA signature, and to provide a good basis for comparing his signature with the DNA of other lineages in an attempt to try to discover who Samuel's parents might have been. We already have two participants in the project (my father and I) descended from Samuel, through his son Adam Bradford, then Isaac Neely Bradford. We are particularly interested in individuals descended from other sons of Adam Bradford and also in individuals descended from Samuel's son James. Funding is available for a certain number of participants to defray the expense of the test. Note: since we test the Y chromosome, which is only passed from male to male, participants must be descended from Samuel Bradford in an unbroken male line. Thanks for listening, Adam Bradford Co-Administrator, Bradford Y-DNA Project adam.bradford@gmail.com

Can anyone shed any light on the Robert Bradford mentioned in this article. There were 2 Roberts in the mid 1600's, Robert of Boston and Robert of Beverly brother of William of Beverly, my ancestor. English, England, Genealogy, Mary and John Passengers, 1630, Exeter, Devon, Somerset, Devon, Drchester, Dorset, New England, Bridport, Taunton, Crewkerne, Passenger List, Winthrop, Fleet, West Country, Massachusetts VOLUMES 17-19, 22 Vols. 2-10 Vols. 17-19, 22 Vol. 20 Vol. 24 Vol. 25 Vol. 26 Vol. 27 SEARCH FOR WEST COUNTRY PLANTERS TO NEW ENGLAND BY 1643 Since1985, the MARY & JOHN CLEARING HOUSE has been trying to identify the 140 passengers who came to New England on the ship Mary & John in 1630. We have also conducted extensive searches in secondary sources in the U.S. and in primary sources in England to compile their English ancestries. Since 1990, we have expanded our searches for English ancestries to 3,000 to 4,000 people who we believe came to New England from the West Country (Counties of Dorset, Somerset, Devon and Cornwall) by 1643, the period of the GREAT MIGRATION. We have now published four volumes in the Search For thePassengers of the Mary & John 1630 series that include nearly 400 families who came from the West Country by 1643. Some families have only been identified in a given town, and sometimes only the parents have been found. But sometimes, we have traced the ancestries back two, three, four or more generations and sometimes to royalty. Following are about one-half of their names that appear in these four volumes. The numbers in parenthesis are the volumes in which their ancestries appears. Bradford, Robert (22) About Us | Passenger List | Books | VHS Videotapes | Photos & Other Books | Order Form | Web Links | Contact Us What's New | Maps/Charts | Newsletter | Home This site is dedicated to the loving memory of its founder, Burton W. Spear (1924-2002). Email Mary & John Clearing House for more information.

Hi all. I wanted to let everyone know of an online event going on that is relevant to all these surnames (As I've seen all these surnames in NC) but Coventry and Hupp, and maybe there is someone on those lists with lines in NC who would benefit. Quite a few of you know that I host genealogy chats at http://www.genealogyforum.org for Southern US genealogy and my cohost and I have decided to start holding short classes and lectures during our chat. Our first class/lecture will be on October 10th (Monday night in 2 weeks) from 9-10pm EST. The topic will be using North Carolina apprenticeship records in our genealogy research. Here are some of the things I will talk about: 1. Laws regulating apprenticeships 2. What can you learn from apprenticeship records 3. Where you can find apprenticeship records 4. A Q&A session where I can answer your questions and hopefully give advice for specific situations There may be some instances where I can volunteer to do lookups in the state archives *and I will take requests during the talk* but my time is limited so I will be going case by case. You don't need to give me sob stories to get me to do a lookup, hehe, most likely I can help, but that is just something we can discuss during the talk. What I cannot do: 1. I cannot give advice or do lookups on apprenticeship records outside of NC. Different states had different ways of handling apprenticeship records and I only know NC and I don't have access to records in other states If you have ancestors in NC, please come and join us, Monday night, October 10th, 9-10pm EST in http://www.genealogyforum.org (enter the chat room, no need to enter a password). Hope to see some folks there and good luck to everyone with their research! Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Please ask your uncle where he got the information. I posted it quite awhile ago on Ancestry and it is in my family tree that is also available. I believe that I am the original poster of this information. If you go to the FamilySearch.org site it may be on there for free. That is the LDS site. If not, let me know and I will try to get it made available.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1800.3.1 Message Board Post: Please see above posting or return to original posting and see related postings. I am sorry but I do not have any more information at this time. Will Post more if I find it. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes. They lived in Smith County, Tennessee, Granville County, North Carolina, Caroline County, Virginia, Charles City County, Virginia, and London, Middlesex, England. They also lived in Kentucky and supposedly had race horses, Kansas, one was a piano teacher, Louisiana, Texas, and Oklahoma. Joyce

Sorry I'm late in responding, I'm wayyyy behind on reading the posts to the list. I wanted to say that Patti makes an excellent point in this! I actually got into an arguement a year ago with a guy who claims the documents never cease to exist, they are just misplaced or become unreadable. Although I can understand what he was saying, that documents never completely deteriorate, etc., he was totally off and Katrina provides a good example of how documents can cease to exist. I am sending this reply to all my lists because I believe everyone one of us should take what Patti says to heart. There are 3 things I want to add. 1. Scanning is a great tool, but remember that every time you scan something, it increases the rate of deterioration. I'm a trained archivist and we have a "one pass" rule, meaning that we scan things only once. 2. CD's should be stored on the end rather than lying flat, it helps to preserve them longer. Not exactly sure why. 3. I have a series of articles on the genealogy depository site about this. The series is about preserving genealogy documents, but it can be very easily transferred to other important papers. Check out the articles at http://www.gendepository.com/articles/conservation1.html Erin Bradford List Moderator > From: <pattee@charter.net> > To: BLACK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Important Papers > > Several of the courthouse records are completely destroyed as a result of > Katrina. > The catastrophe of Katrina has taught us all valuable lessons. One thing we > can do for ourselves is scan all of our important documents, papers and > pictures (copy driver's license, SS card, deeds, wills, vehicle titles and > etc.). Burn EVERYTHING to CD's and put everything into CD cases. Give copies > to different relatives, put a copy in a safe or safety deposit box. > If you know someone who does not have a computer or scanner offer to do their > documents. > Although most people will never be in a hurricane there are other natural > disasters such as a fire or tornado which can occur. > Patti Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRADFORD Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YF.2ACIB/1926 Message Board Post: BRADFORD_Georgia_L_1914-1995.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Abiding Love Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 125,634 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: that's what I have. My uncle was doing research for me and he came up with that as well. I have to double check, but I do think her name was Mergert or margaret --- something to that effect, which I took to mean the truth, it seems as though one of the kids was named that. what other info do you have? where does your line go down to after Richard?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1800.3 Message Board Post: do you have more info on that will? did i ask you that? sorry.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.3.1 Message Board Post: I think that they are in my line as well. Did your ancestors live in NC and TN?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. Where did you get the information that the children of Vespasian was by his parlor maid and do you have her name? I have Richard Taylor, father of Richard Taylor, father of Francis Taylor wife of Richard Bradford, having children by his maid Margaret Manning. Will update my information. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Sorry, I need to clarify that my Philimon was the son of Richard Bradford and Ann Roles.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.2 Message Board Post: This is the same family. Where did you get the information on Vespasian. I have him born in abt 1560. I found him in the records of St. Thomas the Apostle, London, England. There were 3 Philemon Bradfords living in the same area at the same time. I am descended from the son of Philemon. There was also a nephew. It does get confusing at times. Especially since they used the term nephew to distinguish a son from an uncle, thus a person would call his own son nephew! Thank you for the information, Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1800.2.2 Message Board Post: joyce, i am sure that your williams run into the bradford line. i have a line that shows a williams marrying a bradford. I will have to look at my notes and see who was married to who, but I know that in Henry County, TN there was a HUGE deal going on between the Williams, Evans, and Bradfords. Something to do with the Williams family stealing land from the Bradfords! I will look at my files later and email you the info that I have.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello! I have all my records on a disc that I can't access right now - new computer, not everything is in order. Here is what I have on paper, which is scanty, so I'll get back to you soon. Thomas Bradford b. 1760 in NC, m. 1794 to Elizabeth Marshall (b.1758). Thomas died in 1845 in Irwin, Ga. Elizabeth died around 1850. Thomas and Elizabeth had a son named Jacob A. Bradford who was born in 1809 in Montgomery Co., GA. married Sarah Marsh (b. @1813). Jacob and Sarah died around 1868. Jacob and Sarah had a son named William Wesley Bradford, who died in 1864 in the Battle of Cold Harbor in the Civil War. William Wesley married Mary Christian Peeples and they had a son William Jefferson Davis Bradford. William Jefferson Davis Bradford married Marguerite Pyron, and they had my maternal grandmother Nona Bradford Stephens. My husband, interestingly enough, is from the Plymouth line of Bradfords. You and I appear to be from Vespasian Bradford who had six children by his parlour maid. Shelly

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: have some info on that line. Who are you related to? If we are talking about the same bradfords, and i think we are, Richard's father is Vespasian Bradford. Born about 1545. then Richard (although I show a Richard was born on 6/24/1605 and died the next day----looking into that.) I have a Richard that was born in 1636 and had a son, Richard born in 1660 (i have better dates, just have to find them) and then Richard had a son Philemon in 1703. Philemon had a son named Thomas (1731) this is where things get tricky for me, I have read that Thomas and David were really brothers and I know that both Thomas and David have kids named after each other and there is another Philemon in there somewhere. Anyway, then I have David listed as Thomas' son born 1765. Then I have Crawford as David's son, Crawford had 5 kids, including Henry, David, Sarah Kendal, Nancy "Polly", and WM C. William C. had 6 kids, incl a set of Twin boys, one of which is my husband's gpa. HENRY TROY. Henry Troy then had 4 girls, including a set of twins, one of which is my MIL. I also have under Henry's kids that his daughter Emily Caroline married a W..P. Pace. where does that fit in with you guys? did i confuse you? we can fill in blanks later. I would appreciate any help anyone might be able to give. thanks