In a message dated 10/15/2005 12:59:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, RobMBrad@aol.com writes: Just out of curiousity I looked up Samuel BRADFORD b 1738 in "Welcome Englishmen" and found one in chart N5 which is the chart number and the generation. If this is good it should appear in the Gov to 5 generations book which is available. I then checked my Gov to 4 generations Gedcom file and find this. If you want I can copy the data from WE and post it. No guarantee as to accuracy in the book. Shewulf82@aol.com can you help? Bob Bradford This is from Gov Bradford to 4 generations. Husband: John BRADFORD, b: 20 MAY 1717, New London CT, d: 10 MAR 1787, Montville CT Father: Joseph BRADFORD, Mother: Anna FITCH Wife: Esther SHERWOOD, b: 20 NOV 1717, New London CT, d: 10 DEC 1799, Montville CT Married: 15 DEC 1736, Montville CT Children: 1. Samuel BRADFORD, Son, b: 4 JAN 1738, Montville CT 2. John BRADFORD, Son, b: 7 DEC 1739, Montville CT 3. Joseph BRADFORD, Son, b: 17 JUN 1742, Montville CT 4. Sarah BRADFORD, Daughter, b: 27 JUL 1744, Montville CT 5. Perez BRADFORD, Son, b: 11 OCT 1746, Montville CT 6. Benjamin BRADFORD, Son, b: 8 OCT 1748, Montville CT 7. Rebecca BRADFORD, Daughter, b: JAN 1754, Montville CT 8. Mary BRADFORD, Daughter, b: JAN 1756, Montville CT Hi, Yes, in the 5 Generation Book this Samuel Bradford is listed as # 467 and his birth date is listed as 4 Jan 1736, Montville, CT. I "think" that 1736 is a misprint because of the marriage date of 1736. Altho, I cannot be sure of that. Carol Scarborough

Just out of curiousity I looked up Samuel BRADFORD b 1738 in "Welcome Englishmen" and found one in chart N5 which is the chart number and the generation. If this is good it should appear in the Gov to 5 generations book which is available. I then checked my Gov to 4 generations Gedcom file and find this. If you want I can copy the data from WE and post it. No guarantee as to accuracy in the book. Shewulf82@aol.com can you help? Bob Bradford This is from Gov Bradford to 4 generations. Husband: John BRADFORD, b: 20 MAY 1717, New London CT, d: 10 MAR 1787, Montville CT Father: Joseph BRADFORD, Mother: Anna FITCH Wife: Esther SHERWOOD, b: 20 NOV 1717, New London CT, d: 10 DEC 1799, Montville CT Married: 15 DEC 1736, Montville CT Children: 1. Samuel BRADFORD, Son, b: 4 JAN 1738, Montville CT 2. John BRADFORD, Son, b: 7 DEC 1739, Montville CT 3. Joseph BRADFORD, Son, b: 17 JUN 1742, Montville CT 4. Sarah BRADFORD, Daughter, b: 27 JUL 1744, Montville CT 5. Perez BRADFORD, Son, b: 11 OCT 1746, Montville CT 6. Benjamin BRADFORD, Son, b: 8 OCT 1748, Montville CT 7. Rebecca BRADFORD, Daughter, b: JAN 1754, Montville CT 8. Mary BRADFORD, Daughter, b: JAN 1756, Montville CT

Congratulations, David !! May I ask the name of the book on the PDF file? Harold BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: BRADFORD-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 122 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Bradford "brick wall" is crumb ["Leona" ] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from BRADFORD-D, send a message to BRADFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:44:53 -0700 From: "Leona" <lmastan@jps.net> To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Bradford "brick wall" is crumbling Congratulations David!! What a wonderful happening!! I hope you can stop your "happy dance" long enough to sit and enter all your new connections. And maybe do a look up for me??? Does your new book mention a Samuel Bradford (1738-1811) from Snow Hill, Maryland? He is a brick wall to at least three of us on the Bradford list. Thanks much, Leona From: David E. Cann Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:04 AM This post is more a sharing of a success (finally!) A week or so ago I bought an old genealogy work of Gov. Bradford's descendants on eBay. It is actually a large PDF document, not a printed work, but yesterday I finally got lucky and my "Bradford brick wall" is now in shambles.

Congratulations David!! What a wonderful happening!! I hope you can stop your "happy dance" long enough to sit and enter all your new connections. And maybe do a look up for me??? Does your new book mention a Samuel Bradford (1738-1811) from Snow Hill, Maryland? He is a brick wall to at least three of us on the Bradford list. Thanks much, Leona From: David E. Cann Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:04 AM This post is more a sharing of a success (finally!) A week or so ago I bought an old genealogy work of Gov. Bradford's descendants on eBay. It is actually a large PDF document, not a printed work, but yesterday I finally got lucky and my "Bradford brick wall" is now in shambles.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1932 Message Board Post: BRADFORD, THOMAS, Temporal Coadjutor, a native of Cambridgeshire, born 1612; entered the Society 1638, and was formed November 21, 1649. He died at Ghent, November 1, 1668. In "Stoneyhurst MSS. Anglia, vol. v. is a very interesting letter from Brother Bradford to the Very Rev. Father General, dated Tunis, from the Bagno, June 5, 1657. He had been sent to Maryland 'en route' for the Indies, and, falling sick there, was taken prisoner by Turkish pirates on his way back to Cadiz, made a slave to the Bey, and was cruelly treated to compel payment of a ransom. He was afterwards carried to Tunis for sale, and wrote to beg prayers for his constancy. RECORDS OF THE ENGLISH PROVINCE OF THE SOCIETY OF JESUS, VOLUME 7, Ogden, Utah Family History Library, Book # 4948/ 942K2EP vol.7, page 77

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1931.1 Message Board Post: Hit wrong button! Rest of list below: BRADFORD: Joseph H. married at Pleasant Retreat near Winchester, on the 25 ult. to Miss Maria Catherine Spyker. NATIONAL BANNER (Sat., Dec. 5, 1829) Julia Matilda married to Dr. Samuel Hatch. Mr. Larkin of Huntsville married in Alabama to Miss Jane C. James. NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE WHIG (Fri., Feb. 6, 1835) Miss Louisa married to Mr. Alfred M. Hume. Miss Matha Elizabeth married to Capt. Robert c. Foster 3d. Miss Mary married to Mr. Benjamin W. Wilson Miss Mary S. married to Mr. James Campbell. Mr. Miles H. married in Brownville to Miss Mary Cheatham, daughter of Mr. Peter Cheatham. NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE WHIG (Thurs., June 24, 1830) Mr. Robert married on the 30th by the Rev. Mr. Lapsley to Miss Eliza T. Hart, both of Nashville. NASHVILLE REPUBLICAN (Sat., June 7, 1836) Sarah, married to John s. Fall, Esq. Thomas H. Esq. married in Woodford Co., Ky. to Miss S. C. Steele. NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE WHIG (Sat., Dec. 16, 1826) Mr. Thos. N. married in Aug. 1831 to Miss Mary Letta. THE WESTERN WEEKLY REVIEW (Franklin, Tenn. Fri., Sept. 2, 1831) Mr. Tipton of Bellefonte, Ala., married in Winchester on the 17th inst. to Miss Louisiana Taul. NATIONAL BANNER (Sat. Nov. 21, 1829)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1931 Message Board Post: Bradford: Mr. A. K. merchant of Dandridge, married in McMinn Co., to Miss Jane Keith, daughter of Isham Keith, Esq. NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE WHIG (Wed., Feb. 25, 1835 Major Alexander B., attorney at law of the Western District married in Knoxville on the 9th inst. to Miss Darthula O. Miller, daughter of Pleasant M. Miller Esq. NASHVILLE WHIG (Sept. 29, 1824 Benjamin M., Esq., Register of the Land Office, married near Courtland, ala., to Miss Martha Saunders, daughter of the Rev. Turner Saunders. NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE WHIG (Mon., Jan 3, 1831) Miss Cecilia married to Maj. William Carrol. Miss Eleanor, married to Mr. John J. cowden Mr. Eli M. married in Giles County to Miss Jane b. Burthall, daughter of Matthew Burthall. NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE DAILY ADVERTISER (Tues., Nov. 19, 1833 Miss Eliza married at Lexington, Ky. to Mr. William R. Morton Miss Evelina M. married to John Nichols, Esq. Dr. H. C. of Huntsville married on Thursday evening the 18th inst. by the Rev. Mr. Hume to Miss Martha Turner, daughter of Mrs. M. Turner of this city. THE NASHVILLE WHIG (Sept. 15, 1817) Henry C. Esq married in M"Minn county to Miss Elizabeth Hard NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE WHIG (Sat., Nov. 15, 1828) James F., Esq. married in Athens to Miss Nancy Kinder. NATIONAL BANNER & NASHVILLE WHIG (Mon., april 11, 1831) (repeat of the preceding) NASHVILLE REPUBLICAN & STATE GAZETTE (Tues., april 12, 1831) Joseph H. married at Pleasant Retreat near Winchester, on the 25th ult. to Miss Maria Catherine Spyker. NATIONAL BANNER

David, Thanks for the title/author. I actually have a PDF copy of this also. Heritage Quest has a scanned copy online and available for download. - Adam On 10/13/05, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> wrote: > Adam, > > Here is the information on the book itself: > > "Descendants of Governor William Bradford" > Compiled by Ruth Gardiner Hall > Published in 1951 > > As for Henry Swift Bradford, he is listed in the index along with information on a goodly number of children, but I will look in more detail when I get home and am not at work as I am at the moment. If you respond privately and tell me how you want the information sent to you, I will try to send you the appropriate pages on this family if there are not too many of them. I can also fax information directly from my computer as well, if that is an option you would want to consider and send me a number to fax it to. > > Please understand, with my immediate future promising to be tied up in a detail study of this information I simply do not have time to do many lookups any time in the immediate future. For this reason, any other requests will likely go without a response. > > David > decann@infionline.net > Bradford Board Admin > > -----Original Message----- > From: adam bradford <adam.bradford@gmail.com> > Sent: Oct 13, 2005 11:21 AM > To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BRADFORD-L] Bradford "brick wall" is crumbling > > Could you share the author and title of the book with us? > > Also, does the book happen to have any information on the descendants > of the sons of Henry Swift Bradford? > > <snip> > > > ==== BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Looking for a genealogy chat? Come check out Genealogy Chats, Inc. at http://www.genealogyforum.org > >

Adam, Here is the information on the book itself: "Descendants of Governor William Bradford" Compiled by Ruth Gardiner Hall Published in 1951 As for Henry Swift Bradford, he is listed in the index along with information on a goodly number of children, but I will look in more detail when I get home and am not at work as I am at the moment. If you respond privately and tell me how you want the information sent to you, I will try to send you the appropriate pages on this family if there are not too many of them. I can also fax information directly from my computer as well, if that is an option you would want to consider and send me a number to fax it to. Please understand, with my immediate future promising to be tied up in a detail study of this information I simply do not have time to do many lookups any time in the immediate future. For this reason, any other requests will likely go without a response. David decann@infionline.net Bradford Board Admin -----Original Message----- From: adam bradford <adam.bradford@gmail.com> Sent: Oct 13, 2005 11:21 AM To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRADFORD-L] Bradford "brick wall" is crumbling Could you share the author and title of the book with us? Also, does the book happen to have any information on the descendants of the sons of Henry Swift Bradford? <snip>

Could you share the author and title of the book with us? Also, does the book happen to have any information on the descendants of the sons of Henry Swift Bradford? On 10/13/05, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> wrote: > This post is more a sharing of a success (finally!) than a query, but it does relate to the Bradford surname so I hope others will find it interesting. Besides, it involves the crumbling of one of my "brick walls" after a lot of years and I want to share it with someone! :~) > > My link to the Bradford surname is my maternal g-grandmother, Mettie Fitch Bradford (1874-1958). Everyone who knew her affectionately called her "Mom," and one of the things I remember her telling me many years ago is that we are directly descended from Gov. William Bradford "who came over on the Mayflower." Now, any genealogist with two or more Bradfords in his genealogy wants to think he/she is descended from William Bradford, and I am no different. > > When I got "bitten by the genealogy bug" around 1990, one of the things I started to look for was a connection to Gov. Bradford. I have never been overly concerned with being related to famous people or royalty as some folks are. My major concern is, always has been and always will be the accuracy of my information, WHEREVER it might lead. However, that said, it is also kind of interesting to find names in your genealogy that you studied in school. I have off and on pursued extending my Bradford line back, hopefully to reach Gov. Bradford, but I have never been able to get out of the mid-1700s with it until now. > > A week or so ago I bought an old genealogy work of Gov. Bradford's descendants on eBay. It is actually a large PDF document, not a printed work, but yesterday I finally got lucky and my "Bradford brick wall" is now in shambles. My great grandmother was right, and I can now prove that we are connected to his line. I am still entering data, so at the moment I have a lot more work to do, but unless I am very badly mistaken our Bradford line directly descends to us through Gov. Bradford's son William. > > I just wanted to share that, but no response is especially called for unless someone wants to do so. Persistence, time and research are always good in cases like this, but a little luck never hurts anything. I knew nothing about this publication until I noticed it on eBay and bought it, only because it sounded like it had some possibilities. I have positively confirmed a connection to Gov. Bradford, and am 99% sure of a DIRECT connection from him to me. > > Now then. . . . . if I can only find something that will get me through my MAJOR brick wall with another great grandmother, whom I am becoming convinced never had any parents or siblings and was place on this earth by space aliens! After 13 years of searching, I finally found her birth surname, but unfortunately it is JONES. Looking for a female line is hard enough, but when it is Jones it's the perverbial "needle in a haystack." > > > David > decann@infionline.net > Bradford Board Admin > > > ==== BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Looking for a genealogy chat? Come check out Genealogy Chats, Inc. at http://www.genealogyforum.org > >

This post is more a sharing of a success (finally!) than a query, but it does relate to the Bradford surname so I hope others will find it interesting. Besides, it involves the crumbling of one of my "brick walls" after a lot of years and I want to share it with someone! :~) My link to the Bradford surname is my maternal g-grandmother, Mettie Fitch Bradford (1874-1958). Everyone who knew her affectionately called her "Mom," and one of the things I remember her telling me many years ago is that we are directly descended from Gov. William Bradford "who came over on the Mayflower." Now, any genealogist with two or more Bradfords in his genealogy wants to think he/she is descended from William Bradford, and I am no different. When I got "bitten by the genealogy bug" around 1990, one of the things I started to look for was a connection to Gov. Bradford. I have never been overly concerned with being related to famous people or royalty as some folks are. My major concern is, always has been and always will be the accuracy of my information, WHEREVER it might lead. However, that said, it is also kind of interesting to find names in your genealogy that you studied in school. I have off and on pursued extending my Bradford line back, hopefully to reach Gov. Bradford, but I have never been able to get out of the mid-1700s with it until now. A week or so ago I bought an old genealogy work of Gov. Bradford's descendants on eBay. It is actually a large PDF document, not a printed work, but yesterday I finally got lucky and my "Bradford brick wall" is now in shambles. My great grandmother was right, and I can now prove that we are connected to his line. I am still entering data, so at the moment I have a lot more work to do, but unless I am very badly mistaken our Bradford line directly descends to us through Gov. Bradford's son William. I just wanted to share that, but no response is especially called for unless someone wants to do so. Persistence, time and research are always good in cases like this, but a little luck never hurts anything. I knew nothing about this publication until I noticed it on eBay and bought it, only because it sounded like it had some possibilities. I have positively confirmed a connection to Gov. Bradford, and am 99% sure of a DIRECT connection from him to me. Now then. . . . . if I can only find something that will get me through my MAJOR brick wall with another great grandmother, whom I am becoming convinced never had any parents or siblings and was place on this earth by space aliens! After 13 years of searching, I finally found her birth surname, but unfortunately it is JONES. Looking for a female line is hard enough, but when it is Jones it's the perverbial "needle in a haystack." David decann@infionline.net Bradford Board Admin

David, Congratulations on your 'break through' on your Bradford line. Gov. Bradford is my 10th great grandfather - and I descend through William - who married Mary Atwood (he had 3 marriages) then through Israel who maried Sarah Bartlett then through Joshua who married Hannah Bradford his father was Elisha - so I have a double line. You should check out the book "Descendants of Gov. William Bradford" by Ruth Gardner Hall, Published 1951. I furnished information for this book. There are 6 or 7 people by the name of Jones in the index. There is another book that is very interesting - it is "Saints and Strangers" by George F Willison pub 1945. It has some interesting stories of the Pilgrims and also has the lists of passengers on the Mayflower and the James and the Ann - two ships that followed the Mayflower to Plymouth. Again, Congratulations on your link to our Governor Bradford. Yours truly, Grace K. Foulk

Carol, I'm descended from a Bradford line, and family information says we are descended from Gov. William Bradford, but I have never found the connection yet. Of course, ANYONE with Bradfords in their ancestry feels he is descended from Gov. Bradford, so. . . . who knows? The earliest Bradford I have in my data is: John Bradford B. 25 Jul 1798 in Tennessee M. Sarah Blades (1800- ) on 20 Jan 1817 in Franklin Co., Indiana That is as far back as I can take the line, so if you or anyone else on this list have any suggestions I welcome hearing from you. I do not have any parents for him, so this is as far as I can go. Whether it leads to Gov. Bradford or proves I am not descended from him, either way I would sure like to take this line further back than this. Is the "Five Generation" book available anywhere for purchase? Can you recommend any good research sites or publications to trace the Bradford line? I welcome any help you can offer. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net Bradford Board Admin -----Original Message----- From: Shewulf82@aol.com [mailto:Shewulf82@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:56 PM To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRADFORD-L] Bradford 5 Generation Book/Webb Hello, I have the Bradford 5 Generation Book and this is what it shows: 1st Generation....Wm Bradford 2nd Gen... Wm Jr., 3rd Gen... Hannah Bradford m Josuah Ripley had: 4th Gen.....Hannah Ripley b 1685 m Samuel Webb had 5th Gen ....Ebenezer b 1718/19 m Ruth Crane (d/o Isaac & Ruth (Waldo) Crane) had: 6th Gen ....Ebenezer b 5-29-1757 married ???? I can do lookups, if anyone needs assistance. Carol Scarborough President/Historian Society of Governor William Bradford Descendants, Inc

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford, Steel, Steele Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/343.366.432.433.505.624.1091.2 Message Board Post: My family is also attached to the Bradfords. We have a book published a few generations ago which has several catologues of lineage charts. "Steel" appears in the book so I thought I would share. It looks like Samuel and John Steel got married to Bradford women. Samuel Steel married Mercy Bradford and John Steel married Melatiah Bradford. Mercy and Melatiah were the daughters of Alice Richards and William (b. 1624, Deputy Gov. of Plymouth). That William was the son of Gov. William Bradford and Alice Carpenter. I know your spelling of Steele is different, but you know how names change. I thought I'd send the info along, anyway.

Hello, I have the Bradford 5 Generation Book and this is what it shows: 1st Generation....Wm Bradford 2nd Gen... Wm Jr., 3rd Gen... Hannah Bradford m Josuah Ripley had: 4th Gen.....Hannah Ripley b 1685 m Samuel Webb had 5th Gen ....Ebenezer b 1718/19 m Ruth Crane (d/o Isaac & Ruth (Waldo) Crane) had: 6th Gen ....Ebenezer b 5-29-1757 married ???? I can do lookups, if anyone needs assistance. Carol Scarborough President/Historian Society of Governor William Bradford Descendants, Inc

I have entered the entire pink book, 4 generations of Wm Bradford, into a Gedcom file and this is what it shows for Webb. I beleive there is a 5th generation book available that would indicate the marriage, if any, of Ebenezer WEBB, b 1718. Bob Bradford Husband: Samuel WEBB, b: 14 MAY 1690, Braintree MA, d: 6 MAR 1799, Rockingham VT Wife: Hannah RIPLEY, b: 2 MAR 1685, Hingham MA, d: 19 MAR 1751, Hingham MA Father: Joshua RIPLEY, Mother: Hannah BRADFORD Married: 8 OCT 1711, Windham CT Children: 1. Ebenezer WEBB, Son, b: 26 APR 1712, Windham CT, d: 8 JUN 1713, Windham CT 2. Hannah WEBB, Daughter, b: 29 JUN 1715, Windham CT 3. Ebenezer WEBB, Son, b: JAN 1718, Windham CT 4. Joshua WEBB, Son, b: 2 FEB 1722, Windham CT

I have entered the entire pink book, 4 generations of Wm Bradford, into a Gedcom file and this is what it shows for Webb. I beleive there is a 5th generation book available that would indicate the marriage, if any, of Ebenezer WEBB, b 1718. Bob Bradford Husband: Samuel WEBB, b: 14 MAY 1690, Braintree MA, d: 6 MAR 1799, Rockingham VT Wife: Hannah RIPLEY, b: 2 MAR 1685, Hingham MA, d: 19 MAR 1751, Hingham MA Father: Joshua RIPLEY, Mother: Hannah BRADFORD Married: 8 OCT 1711, Windham CT Children: 1. Ebenezer WEBB, Son, b: 26 APR 1712, Windham CT, d: 8 JUN 1713, Windham CT 2. Hannah WEBB, Daughter, b: 29 JUN 1715, Windham CT 3. Ebenezer WEBB, Son, b: JAN 1718, Windham CT 4. Joshua WEBB, Son, b: 2 FEB 1722, Windham CT

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Webb Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1930 Message Board Post: I've seen in MANY trees Ebenezer Webb, descendant of William Bradford, married to Abigail Rude, father of Samuel Webb married to Polly Crawford. Does anyone have any primary documentation for this connection?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YF.2ACIB/1929 Message Board Post: correcting location.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford, Kipp, Justice, Shepherd, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YF.2ACIB/1928 Message Board Post: Seek info on Samuel Bradford, apparently dead by 1879, married Elizabeth Shepherd, both European born. She might be daughter of Thomas Shepherd of Chambers Co., born in England.