This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.2.3 Message Board Post: http://www.mindspring.com/~poefamily4/PoeBradfordFamily.htm that's the website that i found googling. again, i don't know that much of this applies to any of us, but thought it would be helpful for some. also, i have emailed the Guildhall Library in England and they are willing to search and transcribe on 3 people that i request. FOR FREE. i thought maybe we could all do 3 diff people and then pool our findings. let me know if you want that email address. thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The information I have on the Emigration of Richard states that he came from London, England. I do not have the exact text available at this time but will see where I have it and let you know my source. I will try to check all of this out but it may not be until next year. My husband has ill health and we are headed to Arizona. Will try to use computor while there. I really want to find our England connection and get this all straight. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.2.2 Message Board Post: Which Website? and where did you get the birth date for Vespasian. Would appreciate the help. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Richard Bradford married to Francis Taylor is probably Vespasian Bradford's grandson. I have him as the son of Richard in my history. I am still working on this. Thank you, Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YF.2ACIB/1939 Message Board Post: All you Bradford people please search your branches and twigs for my missing relative. Believed to be born between 1800 - 1825. Only info I have is she is a Canadian Indian, unknown what tribe. Don't know whether she was born in Canada or the US. Should you have her in your database, please contact me direct. Thank you, in advance, for your time and trouble.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: joyce, can you tell me what is relevant to us on this website? i am getting confused with all of the richards and thomas's!!!!!!!!! does any of this have anything to do with us? it sure sounds like it does........... http://www.mindspring.com/~poefamily4/PoeBradfordFamily.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.4 Message Board Post: ok, let me try this again.... here is the website http://www.mindspring.com/~poefamily4/PoeBradfordFamily.htm even if it can't help us, maybe you can forward it to others it can help

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.3 Message Board Post: oops, here is the website www.mindspring.com and the other one was www.concentric.net.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1368.2.2 Message Board Post: I don't know if any of this applies to any of us, but I came across it googling. Could it be that Vespasian is not Richard's father????? if Vespasian was born in 1545 he'd be 65 when he had Richard, right or am I just getting all of this confused? anyway, back to my first point, i found this website that i thought people might be interested in, not that all or any of it may necessarily apply to us. I know we are not of the Mayflower line.

I am trying to reach a John Bradford who posted a Bradford and Harrison geneology that I read on Anc.com when I was in Salt Lake City. I am assuming from the information that you posted that you obtained your information on James Warren and much of the rest of the family from a small booklet that he wrote on the 'Descendants of James Bradford' around 1900. I and my siblings are his only descendants and I have his booklet with many additions that he added to it up to his death in 1928. I have also other information on other family members that I have compiled from clippings that he collected from Nashua papers after he moved to Chicago in 1900. Of course, they are only secondary sources so I can't verify their accuracy. We are fifth cousins as I am also descended from James Bradford through his son Thomas Seavy, James Warren Bradford, Ione Bradford and myself, Grace Lorenzen Maslanka. Through my research I have also discovered the geneology of Hannah Seavey back through the 1500's as well as many other lateral branches. If you are interested, please contact me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bradford,nolen,jenkins,evans,gray,williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YF.2ACIB/1660.1 Message Board Post: Hi, we are of the Bradford line. Sarah Kendal or Kendall was Crawford's daughter. We descend from Crawford's son William C. Bradford. One of William C's sons, Wm "Jeff"erson, married Sally Evans, and they had 6 kids. Including a set of twin boys, one of which is my MIL's father. Henry Troy Bradford. Henry had 4 girls, including a set of twins, one of which is my MIL. I would LOVE to exchange info on this family!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1139.1 Message Board Post: Hi, do you know for sure that Richard's dad is Wm Bradford? Is Vespasian Bradford Wm's Dad? We are of the Bradford line. Philemon Bradford that married Mary Byrd had a son named Thomas who married Mary Lavet, who had a son, David who married Mary Kearney and they had Crawford and so forth. That is who we descend from. Any help would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1935 Message Board Post: A short while ago, I began what will be a "beginning to end housecleaning" on this board. When completed, this will make the board easier to use for everyone, and much easier to find information, both in a conventional scanning of the board or a search utilizing one of the search engines. I am only able to edit the following: 1. Subject - This should be a few words, names, dates, etc. that would serve as a brief summary of the board post, and attract someone to it. "Looking for family," "Need help!," or something else of this nature are of little or no use and will be deleted. 2. Surnames - Just what the word implies, this area is for the surnames (and surnames ONLY) in this post, and they must be stated thus (without the quotes), "Bradford, Smith, Jones". They must be stated that way, and ONLY surnames should be entered in the surname field, because the search engines are searching for them and you will attract more people to your post by doing it this way. 3. Classification - Default here is "Query," and this is the classification for most initial posts if you are seeking information. There are a number of others, though, and most responses to a query will fall into one of those categories. Please be aware of the above when posting to the board. It will save me an awful lot of time and effort if your initial post follows the formatting above, and you will also find that you will receive more visits and responses to your post if you do. If you click on the "Links & Announcements" link at the top of this board, you will find my name and e-mail address. Please feel free to contact me at any time if there are any questions, but please DO NOT RESPOND ON THE BOARD to this post.

Thanks Adam. None of my research shows any connection to the Governor. But anytime there is some mention of Samuel I try to track it down. PROVING that we are not related to Governor William Bradford will cut way down on fruitless work! I have been unable to locate any living males from my Joseph Bradford line... but then we go back to Adam anyway, so their DNA should be a perfect match to you. ----- Original Message ----- From: adam bradford To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [BRADFORD-L] Re: Bradford "brick wall" is crumbling Leona, I have this book. Uunsurprisingly, it does not mention Samuel. I must here stress that there's really no good reason, and never has been, to suppose that Samuel is descended from Gov. William. ON a related note, we're not quite ready to come out with the information yet, but evidence from DNA testing indicates to a near certainty that Samuel is not desended from Gov. William. In the Bradford Y-DNA project we have one confirmed descenant of Gov. WIlliam and one confirmed descendant of Samuel (that would be me). We don't share a common ancestor, at least not in the last 10,000 years. The only thing remaining to make the evidence absolutely conclusive is to find other proven descendants of Samuel and Gov. William through different lines. - Adam On 10/14/05, Leona <lmastan@jps.net> wrote: > Congratulations David!! What a wonderful happening!! > I hope you can stop your "happy dance" long enough to sit and enter all your new connections. And maybe do a look up for me??? > > Does your new book mention a Samuel Bradford (1738-1811) from Snow Hill, Maryland? He is a brick wall to at least three of us on the Bradford list. > > Thanks much, > Leona > > From: David E. Cann > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:04 AM > > This post is more a sharing of a success (finally!) > > A week or so ago I bought an old genealogy work of Gov. Bradford's descendants on eBay. It is actually a large PDF document, not a printed work, but yesterday I finally got lucky and my "Bradford brick wall" is now in shambles. > > > ==== BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Looking for a genealogy chat? Come check out Genealogy Chats, Inc. at http://www.genealogyforum.org > > ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford, Blades Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1933 Message Board Post: This John Bradford is one of my more elusive Bradford ancestors, and I would like very much to find his parents if I can. Following is what I have on him, but much of it is not positively documented and subject to correction: BORN: 25 Jul 1798, but I have TN, MD, VA, and NC as possible places of birth, so this is very much up in the air. TN is indicated in the 1850 and 1860 Federal Census. MARRIED: Married Sarah Blades on 20 Jan 1817 in Franklin County, Indiana. They were married by a Baptist minister named Rev. John Blades, thought to be the bride's uncle. CHILDREN: Isaac (1827-1908), Harvey (1828-1900), Emaline (1830- ), John Herod (1832-1904), Sarah Ann (1833-1900), Jonathan William (1830-1903). John is thought to be widowed by 1860, as he is shown in the 1860 Federal Census as living with his son Jonathan and daughter Sarah. He cannot be found in the 1870 Federal Census, so I presume he died in the 1860s. I would be extatic if someone could lead me to his parents or give me any information on them, as I do not have anything on them at all. Many thanks in advance for any fragment of information you might have.

Re: Carol, can you tell us who the 5 generation book has as wife/wives of Samuel Bradford born 1736/1738? Hi, Yes, This Samuel is listed as #437 and s/o (John4, Joseph3, Wm2-1) b 1-4-1736 Montville, CT, died there 7-29-1807 aged 69.... He and his wife are buried in Raymond Hills Cemetery. He m. BRIDGETT COMSTOCK b Montville, CT, 6-20-1738, died there 7-15-1830 aged 92, d/o Nathaniel & Margaret (Fox) Comstock. If he died in 1807 and was 69, he was born in 1737/8....when he's listed under Parent's name says 1737/8) Their children were: Bridget b 3-8-1760 Eleanor b 2-11-1762 Samuel b 3-27-1764 Nathaniel b 10-13-1766 Margaret b 5-31-1769 William b 1-30-1772 Sarah b 2-1-1774 Esther b 12-2-1782 John Bradford b New London, Ct 5-20-1717, d Montville, Ct 3-10-1787 aged 70 m 12-15-1736 Esther Sherwood b New London, CT 11-20-1717, d Montville, CT 12-10-1799 aged 82, d/o Samuel & Rebecca (Burr) Sherwood. Joseph Bradford b Plymouth 4-18-1675 d New London, CT 1-17-1747, 73rd year, married Lebanon, CT 1st Anna Fitch (had 10 children) & 2nd 2-25-1715/16 Mary (Sherwood) Fitch b 1674 d Montville, CT 9-16-1752. She married Preston, CT 3-4-1698 1st Daniel Fitch with whom she had Adonijah, James, Lemuel, Mary & Daniel. Anything else, please let me know. Carol Tyler Scarborough

Hi Bob, You're right - the data at gencircles is unreliable, at least as regards Samuel of MD. Samuel Bradford of Worcester, MD, was born probably in the 1730s or 1740s, i.e., around the same time as Samuel the son of John Bradford and Esther Sherwood. When later descendants looked in the records of Worcester County they noticed a John Bradford married to an Esther. This was Esther Smith, but no matter - the coincidence of the names and the general match of the dates was enough to clinch the deal for some. THereafter, these two Samuels have often been reported as the same individual. All of these online sources - gencircles, genweb, rootsweb or whatever-web, are all third or even fourth hand information. I've been scouring original county records and am now finally making some small headway in the search for Samuel's parentage. Anyone hoping that evidence of Samuel's parentage will miraculously appear on some website is bound to be disappointed. Unless the information is posted by someone who's gone digging hard and long through original sources. - Adam On 10/16/05, RobMBrad@aol.com <RobMBrad@aol.com> wrote: > If you will go to gencircles.com, instead of just using name box use search, > enter Samuel BRADFORD, b1738 exact date. You will find several enteries for > Samuel, one from MD and one from CT. Download the pedigree and gedcom files and > analyze them. The one from CT is from the Gov. The MD one is very doubtful. > Bob >

If you will go to gencircles.com, instead of just using name box use search, enter Samuel BRADFORD, b1738 exact date. You will find several enteries for Samuel, one from MD and one from CT. Download the pedigree and gedcom files and analyze them. The one from CT is from the Gov. The MD one is very doubtful. Bob

Leona, I have this book. Uunsurprisingly, it does not mention Samuel. I must here stress that there's really no good reason, and never has been, to suppose that Samuel is descended from Gov. William. ON a related note, we're not quite ready to come out with the information yet, but evidence from DNA testing indicates to a near certainty that Samuel is not desended from Gov. William. In the Bradford Y-DNA project we have one confirmed descenant of Gov. WIlliam and one confirmed descendant of Samuel (that would be me). We don't share a common ancestor, at least not in the last 10,000 years. The only thing remaining to make the evidence absolutely conclusive is to find other proven descendants of Samuel and Gov. William through different lines. - Adam On 10/14/05, Leona <lmastan@jps.net> wrote: > Congratulations David!! What a wonderful happening!! > I hope you can stop your "happy dance" long enough to sit and enter all your new connections. And maybe do a look up for me??? > > Does your new book mention a Samuel Bradford (1738-1811) from Snow Hill, Maryland? He is a brick wall to at least three of us on the Bradford list. > > Thanks much, > Leona > > From: David E. Cann > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:04 AM > > This post is more a sharing of a success (finally!) > > A week or so ago I bought an old genealogy work of Gov. Bradford's descendants on eBay. It is actually a large PDF document, not a printed work, but yesterday I finally got lucky and my "Bradford brick wall" is now in shambles. > > > ==== BRADFORD Mailing List ==== > Looking for a genealogy chat? Come check out Genealogy Chats, Inc. at http://www.genealogyforum.org > >

Thank you Bob and Carol. Carol, can you tell us who the 5 generation book has as wife/wives of Samuel Bradford born 1736/1738? Bob, I vaguely remember looking at "Welcome Englishmen" year ago, and deciding that the Samuel Bradford mentioned was not mine. But, now I cannot recall just why. I may have to take another look. Thank you, Leona ----- Original Message ----- From: Shewulf82@aol.com To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [BRADFORD-L] Re: BRADFORD-D Digest V05 #122 In a message dated 10/15/2005 12:59:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, RobMBrad@aol.com writes: Just out of curiousity I looked up Samuel BRADFORD b 1738 in "Welcome Englishmen" and found one in chart N5 which is the chart number and the generation. If this is good it should appear in the Gov to 5 generations book which is available. I then checked my Gov to 4 generations Gedcom file and find this. If you want I can copy the data from WE and post it. No guarantee as to accuracy in the book. Shewulf82@aol.com can you help? Bob Bradford This is from Gov Bradford to 4 generations. Husband: John BRADFORD, b: 20 MAY 1717, New London CT, d: 10 MAR 1787, Montville CT Father: Joseph BRADFORD, Mother: Anna FITCH Wife: Esther SHERWOOD, b: 20 NOV 1717, New London CT, d: 10 DEC 1799, Montville CT Married: 15 DEC 1736, Montville CT Children: 1. Samuel BRADFORD, Son, b: 4 JAN 1738, Montville CT 2. John BRADFORD, Son, b: 7 DEC 1739, Montville CT 3. Joseph BRADFORD, Son, b: 17 JUN 1742, Montville CT 4. Sarah BRADFORD, Daughter, b: 27 JUL 1744, Montville CT 5. Perez BRADFORD, Son, b: 11 OCT 1746, Montville CT 6. Benjamin BRADFORD, Son, b: 8 OCT 1748, Montville CT 7. Rebecca BRADFORD, Daughter, b: JAN 1754, Montville CT 8. Mary BRADFORD, Daughter, b: JAN 1756, Montville CT Hi, Yes, in the 5 Generation Book this Samuel Bradford is listed as # 467 and his birth date is listed as 4 Jan 1736, Montville, CT. I "think" that 1736 is a misprint because of the marriage date of 1736. Altho, I cannot be sure of that. Carol Scarborough