This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRADFORD, HEINZ, ROSEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1833.1.1 Message Board Post: just in case i didn't thank you for your help....you where of great help...thank you very much....

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1946 Message Board Post: I need some info on a Bradford family I know lived in Tiffin Ohio,Don't really know if they were born there or not tho...There was a Sebron Bradford, don't know what yr. he was born or passed away but I do know he served in the 110th reg.co.E. in 1864...then theres Catherine Bradford(I think Bradford was her married name) Born in Logan Co. Ohio in Sept.1849..died in Jan.1913...then William Bradford..b. 9/21/1873 in Degraf,Oh.died 5/6/1943 in Tiffin..last theres ..Mary Bradford(married name) b.10/12/1862 in TiffinOhio to John & Mary Zimmerman Smith...D. 3/12/1948 ...If any one has any info on these people please email . thank you all so much..

Hi folks! I know some of you on a few lists are tired of hearing from me, I'm sorry, but this is too important not to send. I believe I may have sent something on this before, but can't remember right off hand, and since this is fresh in my mind, I want to send it now, because even if I did send it before, we have new members to the list who may not be aware. It was recently brought to my attention that there is a new site called fakefamily that created a software program that produces fake genealogy family trees and posts them to the web. The purpose of this is to bring advertising revenues to websites. There are sites who use advertisers, such as google (like on my page) or private advertisers to bring revenue. Many of us who use it do so to help pay for a legitimate site (like me), but some abuse the set up and have created these fake family trees, google and yahoo put them in their search engine as a genealogy website, and then when folks search for genealogy sites, these come up with completely bogus families only to bring users to the site and earn money in a very underhanded way, and in my opinion, unethical! This is a potentially huge threat to internet genealogy! The reason being that, especially for beginning genealogists, they find names online, and take it for granted that everything is correct and they never verify the information for themselves. The guy who created this software is well aware of this and has no sympathy for that happening with one of his fakefamilies. I want to take this opportunity to press upon you the importance of verifying EVERYthing you come across with genealogy and even history in general, with primary documents (birth, marriage, death certificates, court cases, etc.) rather than secondary sources (books, word of mouth, websites, etc). I want to share with you something from my own experience and maybe you can see why I advocate that so much. First, realize I'm not saying that folks are lying or trying to mislead, in most cases it is that there was a misinterpretation of the primary document, or something that went generation to generation and hadn't been verfied. Back in the fall of 2000, I began a project documenting free African Americans in antebellum North Carolina. At the beginning of the project, 75% of my sources were books or articles. In everything I saw that was previously published, particularly in Ira Berlin's Slaves Without Masters and Dr. John Hope Franklin's the Free Negro in North Carolina 1790-1860, it was stated that NC was the first state to pass a law that required free blacks to register, and in one source, it stated that it opened the doors for states lik VA and SC to pass similar laws. Well, I took this for granted that it was fact. I figured if it came from Ira Berlin or Dr. Franklin, the authorities on the subject, it must be true! 2 years ago, I decided to start looking at what all the laws in NC regarding free blacks actually said and what I found surprised me! I made copies of everything I found in the archives of everything law that mentioned anyone who was black, whether slave or fr! ee, and went home to read over it. I found the law these authors had written about and found out they were wrong! The law was not statewise as one source claimed, the law only applied to 4 specific towns (Edenton, Fayetteville, Washington, and Wilmington for those who wanted to know) and no where else in the state. I thought long and hard about how these authors could have been so wrong and I came to 2 conclusions. Either 1, they never actually saw the law for themself or 2 they misinterpreted it, although I can't see how, it's pretty clear. I think what happened is that during the Reconstruction era, an author who was the first to write anything about free blacks in the south, had said that NC was the first to pass this law statewide and these subsequent authors then just took what he said as fact without checking. If I had not checked on this law, the whole thesis of my paper for that class would have been fiction! It also helped genealogically because I kept searching for registers of free blacks and couldn't understand why I couldn't find any! Now I know. Another example, I know of a group of researchers who hired a professional genealogist to do some research for them. After researching, he claimed that they were descended from a certain woman who married their ancestor that as far as I can tell was based on a sentence in this woman's will. This group and others took it as fact because this is what the professional had said. They spent a good number of years, 20, 30, on trying to go back further on this family and never got anywhere. One of the newer researchers to the line decided to work on their ancestors wife instead and look at who her ancestors were. During the process she discovered that the professional genealogist was actually wrong, that she had married another man with the same last name. Everybody who researched this family completely believed that they were descended from this woman when they really weren't and it was because no one bothered to go back and look at the documents the professi! onal did and form their own opinion. When you have a professional do research, they *should* always cite all their sources and leave a paper trail so you can go back and see the same documents for yourself, besides the fact that yu are paying them to find your ancestor, you are also paying them to find those documents and if they don't give you copies of the documents, they should at least tell you what they were and how to get them yourself. It's always a good idea that if you don't have the copies yourself, you need to get them to verify. Ok, this is getting really long, but I hope that you all see where I was trying to go with the importance of verifying your information, especially with folks like this fakefamily.com that make internet research for genealogy less and less reliable. If you want to read some about the fakefamily site, here is a link. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160683,00.html Good luck everyone in your research! Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3YF.2ACIB/1944 Message Board Post: Looking for any one with information on Thomas Bradford who was living in De Kalb County, Tennessee in 1840.

Tara, if you are on the list, please email me. I have some info for you on the Barrett and Bradford families. Carmelita

Hi all! For those of you who are interested, there is now a section on the website for the NC Bradford Project. If you go to the main Bradford page (http://bradford.gendepository.com), there is a link to the project as well as a link to the Bradford Y-DNA project (it's not mine, but I fully support it!). From the NC Bradford Project, all the documents pertaining to NC Bradfords will be linked there. Although some of the information is linked from the main Bradford page, it is also linked from the Project page as will all new information soon to be added. So far as the Project page are the following links: Census Records * North Carolina (added tonight, linked from main page as well) Marriage Records * Granville County marriages before 1868 (added 11/12/2005) Military Records: * Bradford Civil War Soldiers in North Carolina (added from main page tonight) Wills * David Bradford, 1779 Mecklenburg County (added from main page tonight) * David Bradford, 1800 Granville County (added from main page tonight) If you had already bookmarked any of these pages at their old location, don't worry, they are still there, I just removed the links on the main page. The census information can be accessed through the main page, but is also linked to the Project page, they both go to the same place. For the Civil War soldiers and wills, I have removed the links from the main page and put a copy of the file into the Project section, but they are also where they were in the first place. You may want to rebookmark the pages though incase there are any updates in the future. Hope this is not too confusing and please contact me off the list if it is and I'll try to help you out. Originally this project was just with the list, but I know we've had a lot of visitors to the site who are not on the list, so I felt this was a good way to reach out to them. As the introduction to the Project section says, there are now 530 Bradfords in the database right now and I'm still adding more. Not all are in NC, some are in AL, MS, TN, IN, OK, TX, but they are all descendants of the NC Bradford lines. I have no idea how many are actually in the database, but when I made a report of all individuals by just their name, there were 27 pages! And I still have more to go! Keep your eye on the NC Bradford Project section of the website, I am planning for LOTS of information to be added in the next couple months with a goal of at least 1 new page a week. Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

Thanks Erin! Hi list, > I am trying to find the parents and siblings of David Bradford listed in the > 1910 census for Ft Worth Tarrant Co Texas, born 1869 marrie Mattie J Brandon > in Tennessee. I know there are list members working on this because I find a > tree for Jannie ILa Bradford, his daughter. > Depending on what census you look at he states father born TN in the 1900 > census, 1910-1920 he says Texas. > Family rumour is that his father was a Captain in the Confederate Army and > moved to Texas after the Civil War. > The 1910 census has a nephew living with them Clyde a Bradford b 1889 > Arkansas, father b TX mother b Arkansas. > Can anyone help me with this family. > > Thank you > Jeanette

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bradford Brandon Bear Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3YF.2ACIB/1943 Message Board Post: I am searching for information on David Bradford, born March 1869 either Tennesee or Texas depending on which census you look at. He married Martha (Mattie) J Brandon in TN and had the following children. Algie David b 1894 TN Jannie Ila b 1895 TN David Dec 1896 TN Zelma Daniel Nov 1899 TN Edwin G 1901 TN Moved to Texas and had the following children in FT Worth Tarrant Texas according to census records Mattie Mollie b June 1903 Sudie Mae May 1905 John W Oct 1907 Virginia b 1909 Rome Eugene b 2-2-1913 Family folk lore is that David's father was a Captain in the Confederate army and moved to Texas after the war, I cannot find a record on this man. I know David had a brother because in the 1910 census has a nephew Clyde A Bradford b abt 1889 Arkansas, father born Texas and mother b Arkansas, living with the family. I could really use some help with this. Please email me directly at gasladysocal@msn.com Thanks in advance Jeanette

Ok all, I think mentioned to the list that I just started a new job at the State Library of NC, which shares a building with the state archives. I use my lunch and breaks to search for information there. Today (and the rest of this week), I have been searching for marriage records. What I am doing is starting with Granville County and then spreading out and I will eventually get them all. I found numerous records today in the following counties: Alamance, Caswell, Chatham, Franklin, Granville, Orange, and Wake. (all before 1868) The following counties I looked at had nothing for Bradford (male or female): Alexander, Anson, Catawba, Cleveland, Durham, Edgecombe, Northampton, Person, or Vance (all before 1868) Hopefully by the end of next week, I'll have looked at all counties. Once I'm finished (and periodically until then), I will be sending the list names for each county I come across (Groom, Bride, and date). If you find something you want, let me know and I will get a copy for you from the archives and only ask for reimbursement for costs of the copies and for shipping. Expect the first list of names to come by the end of this week. Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

Hi all! Just wanted to let you know I have up through 1900 Cabarrus County census for the Bradford surname up and on the the site (see my signature of address). I'm going to take a break from working on this for a few days, but should have 1910 up by the end of the week. Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

Ok, I took another look at the will, sorry for the confusion, but there was NO son named Richard, just a brother. I was giving the run down last night from memory and was thinking there was a son and brother named Richard, but it was just a brother. Sorry for the confusion! Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

Okay - I changed the subject with whom was left land in Orange Co. TWO separate folks, although both are descendants of Richard of Charles City...... THOMAS, son of Richard & Anna, who left a will probated 23 May 1761 NORTHAMPTON CO., NC; Will book 1, pg 75 had two wives: Elizabeth Smith & Mary Moore and 8 children: Henry, Frances Elizabeth, Edith, Sarah, Thomas, William, Nathaniel, Richard (left land in Orange Co.) THOMAS, son of Philemon & Mary Byrd, b. abt 1731 d. 1786 left a will in GRANVILLE Co. also had a wife named MARY _____. 9 children: Elizabeth, Mary, Philemon, David, Thomas, Benjamin, Ephraim, Sarah, Celah. In my notes with a deed of sale from THOMAS to RICHARD, I made a note that this Thomas did not have a child Richard but did have a brother Richard. {They were NEPHEWS of the THOMAS who died in 1761 Northampton Co. - if my mind hasn't vacated....} AND it gets only more confusing with their children: Elizabeth m. John Pruitt 28 Aug 1769, Granville Co - Their daughter Mary Pruitt m. Harris Bradford (son of Philemon/Elizabeth Booker) both died in Gibson Co., TN: son Philemon married Suzanne Clopton 25 Apr 1779, Franklin Co. NC, he died in Greenville Co., SC and wife Suzanne died in St. Clair Co., AL, where most of their children migrated: son David m. Mary Kearney 02 Aug 1784, Granville Co. NC migrating to Stewart Co., TN: son Thomas m. Eve Kearney 1782 Granville Co.! NC, died there but at least one of their children - Kearney - migrated to TN: son Benjamin m. Polly Smith, both died in E. Feliciana Co., LA (their migration was evidently: NC to TN to LA in 1819): dau. Sarah m. Jones Fuller 13 May 1786, Granville Co NC: dau. Celah m. Coleman Reed White 13 Mar 1786, Granville Co NC. (Have no notes on ones I didn't cover.) THIS family is of great importance in tying things together because of their migrations. Anyway, my fault.... I jumped Becky

From the book "Abstracts of Granville Co NC", Bartow FL Genealogy library p. 107 & 108 Will of Thomas Bradford written 22 Mar 1785, probated May Court 1786 p. 484-486 Wife: Mary Daughters: Elizabeth Prewit, Mary Lovet, Sealy Bradford & Sarah Bradford Sons: Philemon, David, Thomas, Ephraim, & Benjamin Brother: Richard Bradford Executors: my wife Mary & son Philemon Bradford Witnesses: Simon Clement, Benjamin Morgan, Mary Priddom & Mark Clement I believe the name is Prewitt. Some of the Bradford's moved to Smith Co TN. The Prewitt's were there also. I don't have any connections for the two families in Smith Co but I do believe Elizabeth married a Prewitt / Pruitt. Erin, note that no son in the above transcription was named Richard. Did the will actually list Richard as a son? And wife, Mary possibly would have died after him as she was one of the executors. Carmelita In a message dated 11/6/2005 1:38:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, eabradfo@yahoo.com writes: Hi all, particularly John and Becky, I have this will in my hand right now, well a copy from the archives that I got earlier this week. His will was dated the 20-something of March, 1785 (the 2nd digit of the day was faded beyond recongition) and the will was proven in the May term of 1786 in Granville Co., NC. He lists the following people in his will: Wife Mary Daughters Mary Lovet, Elizabeth Presit (surname faded, looked like "Presit" or "Pruset", going to lookd for a marriage bond for her week), Sarah, Sealey (she may have been the Celah who was married in Granville Co. in 1786 - I'm going to try and find a marriage bond for her this coming week) Songs Philemon, Thomas, Ephraim, Richard, Benjamin, and David Brother Richard I will try to put the transcription online this week. Also, Jack London has this line and he originally was the person to send me information on this line. I have been working to verify information as very little listed documentation, although it pretty much all checks out. I am not sure if he is still on this list. He's not subscribed with the same address and the one I have for him was returned to me saying it doesn't exist. Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

Hi all! I've had inscomnia tonight so I decided to work on the website. A lot of the census infor for NC on the website (in my signature file) was outdated or incomplete or incorrect, so I have updated it all, I have listed household and family #'s where applicable, typed and written page numbers, enumeration dates when available, etc. I also noticed on the 1860 Cabarrus co. info already on the page that I had the value numbers incorrect and took them accidently from the household next to them, that has been fixed. I have also added the 1850 census info for Granville Co. I plan to add more in the future. I still need to add the following years for Cabarrus: 1820, 1830, 1850, all after 1870. This is my priority is to get this information transcribed and I hope to have that done by December 1st. After that, I'll work on the rest of Granville, and then Orange, etc. Although I hope it won't take me a full year, I hope to get all of NC census info transcribed and on the page by the end of 2006. You can help me with this! If you have census information for your NC Bradfords, please send it to me! If you have access to census records and are willing to help, please let me know so we don't duplicate effort. If you have information on your own lines or able to help transcribe, please contact me off the list and I will give you instructions for formatting. If you are sending me your own lines, send what you have and I'll verify it and fill in any missing information (pages, post office, etc.). Thanks all with your patience and help with the NC Bradford project! One day we'll finish this and I'll move onto other areas of the US :). Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

Hi all, particularly John and Becky, I have this will in my hand right now, well a copy from the archives that I got earlier this week. His will was dated the 20-something of March, 1785 (the 2nd digit of the day was faded beyond recongition) and the will was proven in the May term of 1786 in Granville Co., NC. He lists the following people in his will: Wife Mary Daughters Mary Lovet, Elizabeth Presit (surname faded, looked like "Presit" or "Pruset", going to lookd for a marriage bond for her week), Sarah, Sealey (she may have been the Celah who was married in Granville Co. in 1786 - I'm going to try and find a marriage bond for her this coming week) Songs Philemon, Thomas, Ephraim, Richard, Benjamin, and David Brother Richard I will try to put the transcription online this week. Also, Jack London has this line and he originally was the person to send me information on this line. I have been working to verify information as very little listed documentation, although it pretty much all checks out. I am not sure if he is still on this list. He's not subscribed with the same address and the one I have for him was returned to me saying it doesn't exist. Erin Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)

John wrote: > As I recall, there was a will of a Thomas Bradford of Granville who > mentioned some heirs in Orange County. John - that's correct, it was Thomas, son of RICHARD & Anna Roles Bradford, whose 1st wife was Elizabeth Smith. I have his second wife as Mary Moore, and their son Richard was the heir who received the 400 acres in Orange Co. on Lick Creek. (Think I remember that Lick Creek is in the extreme Southeastern corner of Orange. maybe Durham now.) Believe he sold this in 1770... and most of this info came from Peter Sandlund. Further this Richard 1st married Elizabeth Singleton, 2nd Nancy Spears removing to Sumter Co., SC and died there 21 Jun 1826. Also have note of a deed witnessed by George King between Thomas and James Dickens. Dated Sep. 4, 1750 Granville Co. (The land was also on (a) Lick Creek.) Will send along ... Regards, Becky

Hello Becky, As I recall, there was a will of a Thomas Bradford of Granville who mentioned some heirs in Orange County. I do not consider myself a true researcher of the family, but I do remember running across such a document but cannot lay my hands upon it at the moment. I have been having computer problems, which have just been rectified, but will need some time to check through my old verical files. Best regards, John Bebe and John Fox Virginia and North Carolina Families -----Original Message----- From: Becky Mosely <beckymosely@comcast.net> To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:34:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [BRADFORD-L] David and Thomas Bradford of Orange/Alamance Counties, NC Greetings John - Was hoping some of the Orange Co. group would jump in on a reply. One of the more interesting things to come from the Y-DNA project is that the Alamance area Bradfords are not related to the Richard line of Charles City Co., VA. (i.e. The David and Thomas Bradford discussed previously - although this line did have some connections to Orange at the same time.) The Orange Co. Bradfords have not been able to make a connection further back than Orange Co., possibly the King origins might offer an geographical avenue for exploration. Many thanks for your post and information - one never knows where clues might lead. Regards, Becky Mosely ==== BRADFORD Mailing List ==== Come visit the Genealogy Depository at http://www.gendepository.com

Greetings John - Was hoping some of the Orange Co. group would jump in on a reply. One of the more interesting things to come from the Y-DNA project is that the Alamance area Bradfords are not related to the Richard line of Charles City Co., VA. (i.e. The David and Thomas Bradford discussed previously - although this line did have some connections to Orange at the same time.) The Orange Co. Bradfords have not been able to make a connection further back than Orange Co., possibly the King origins might offer an geographical avenue for exploration. Many thanks for your post and information - one never knows where clues might lead. Regards, Becky Mosely

Hello Erin and group, I have records of two Bradfords who were located in what was northern Orange County, now Alamance. These were Thomas Bradford and D. Bradford (David) who witnessed the will of my ancestor John King written in 1797. Being a witness to any legal document generally required that the person was of age (21) unless there were no one else available to perform the task. A son of John King, Edward, was my ancestor and he was married to a Sarah -?- whom I suspect to have been sister to Thomas and David Bradford. A David Bradford was noted in a deed of sale for some of his land to Union Church for use as an addition to their cemetery, which helps to clarify the location of the Bradfords and Kings. I have seen that this David was married to a Maryan Hamilton, and they were the parents of William Bradford who married a granddaughter of the above John King, Sarah King. She was a daughter of Armour King. This David was listed on a 1779 Tax List for Orange County, NC, and he was also listed on the 1790 Census as head of household. It appears that David had a brother, Thomas, born ca 1742 who married -?- and produced a daughter, 28 August 1768, Sarah Bradford who married in November 1789 in Orange County, NC to Joseph McAdams. As I recall this family migrated to Tennessee. Admittedly, I am a researcher of the King family, but am curious about these instances where the two families were alligned. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem, NC Bebe and John Fox Virginia and North Carolina Families -----Original Message----- From: Erin Bradford <eabradfo@yahoo.com>

I do have Philemon's will as well, just haven't gotten to transcribing it yet. Will try to do that this weekend. Erin > ______________________________ > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:47:38 -0500 > From: "Becky Mosely" <beckymosely@comcast.net> > To: BRADFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Will of David Bradford, 1800 > > Erin - > Many thanks for retrieving and transcribing this will. This isn't my > line but this is what I have: > DAVID was the son of PHILEMON & Mary Bryd, he is named in Philemon's will > and left 400 acres on Poplar Branch, etc. (Believe this will is on LaVere > Peters website.) > David & Elizabeth's son, JAMES married Elizabeth Rust and they evidently > moved to Smith Co., TN. Their children were: David M., Ann R., & Vincent R. > all born in TN. > > DAVID had a brother Philemon who married Elizabeth Booker. So Booker > Bradford was his nephew (he also removed to Brush Creek, Smith Co., TN). > Don't see that this Philemon named a child Philemon so the person mentioned > in the will must be David's brother himself who died before May 1804. > > The DAVID who married Mary Kearney, died abt. 1821 in Stewart Co., TN. > He was the son of THOMAS & Mary Bradford, grandson of PHILEMON & Mary Byrd. > So his relationship to David (of the will) was Nephew!!! [This is the > lineage in the TN email before yours. His brother, #5 Thomas married Eve > Kearney.] > > Anyway this is all very hard to ferret out and needless to say I could be > incorrect in places. Becky Erin Bradford eabradfo@yahoo.com List manager http://www.ncalhn.org ALHN County Coordinator for multiple NC Counties http://www.gendepository.com (the Genealogy Depository-Barringer, Black, Bradford, Coventry, Eller, Hackett, Hupp, and Kern)