Lois, I did a quick Google search and turned up a Jeff Beatty who is President and CEO, Total Security Services International, Inc.. There is a conference website at http://www.transformationconference.com/jeffbeatty.htm which has his picture (I think). Is that who you saw? From his company's website, his email address is jbeatty@TotalSecurity.US. Guess you could send him an email and ask him from whence he came. Les Beaty L-20B/L-241