Thanks to everyone for the help with aol. I thought it was just me....as I received messages until Weds. Anyway, I have some exciting news, I've had contact from Belfast of a decsendant of William and Elizabeth Rutherford Beatty thru their son Martin b. 1790, co Down, Ireland ( L5). I've told him about the BP2000 group web site and DNA testing in hopes he will join..... I thought you might have interest in his message. Becky,          I`m delighted to receive your reply. I have been living in Belfast for nearly 20 years but previously had lived in various parts of N Ireland including Anahilt.   I am not familiar with any Rutherfords but my Uncle (Wallace Beatty) lives there.  He is a retired farmer and in fact lives on the holding (townland of Ballycrune) passed down from the said Martin Beatty. I am aware that he knows some Rutherfords who still live in the area but I dont know if they are the folk you are trying to trace. When I have the opportunity I will make further enquiries. I have been fascinated to see that you have traced Elizabeth Rutherford, my g-g-g- grandmother back to Joseph Alleine and Samuel Rutherford (through his brother James) as they are two of the greatest figures in Puritan history. I am wondering if there is a generation missing as James Rutherford was born about 150 years before Elizabeth (his supposed g-granddaughter) and this would seem unlikely. I am fairly new to the genealogy business and would like to know how to investigate this further. Regarding Allen Rutherford it may take some time to make my enquiries but I will hopefully contact you when I make some progress!                    Best wishes                   Harold Beatty Becky Rutherford Independent Longaberger (R) Sales Consultant Shop With Me Site http://www.longaberger.com/beckyrutherford Becky's Surnames: Miller, Fishpaw, Mead, Bumgarner, Potts, Coe, Wickliff, Lemmon, Huddleson, Mays, Youmans, Dunning, Layton, Battee (Franklin, Licking, Fairfield, Athens OH; Anne Arundel, Baltimore, MD) Bruce's Surnames: Rutherford, Bozman, Brown, Brownrigg, Shafer, Oliver, Norris, Gillet/Gillette, Rasier, Caldwell, Fulton, Groves, Danford, Steele, Williams, Phillips, Conkle, Metheney, Nicholson, Hendry, Ward, Larrick (Noble Co and area OH; Co. Down, Ire) RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: Our Family History Rebecca Miller and Bruce Ru http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=becky1949 Our Family Tree http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/u/t/Becky-Rutherford/ (many family photos)