James Forbes Beattie does appear to have a tie to Australia--his estate settlement mentions a Beattie in Australia who owed him money. His also has a nephew who lives in London in 1890 and who is appointed an executor to his wife, Jane B. Copland Beattie's, estate. Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Sheila Hale" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Andrew Beattie of PA not Son of James Forbes Beattie. > Oh well it was worth a try. Just goes to show what has been proved to me > many times over the years. The initial obvious choice for an ancestor is > very often wrong. > > Going back and reading the census for James's family. Several of the > children were born in Syndney, New South Wales does this not sound like > Australia not Wales as a birthplace??!! > > Sheila > > Laurel Baty wrote: >> I don't think the Andrew Beattie of Donna's post can be the son of James >> Forbes Beattie--I found a death certificate for Andrew Beattie, aged 17, >> died Nov. 26, 1861, Old Machar, Aberdeenshire; father James Forbes >> Beattie, >> mother Jane Byres Beattie (maiden surname Copland), died of abscess of >> eye. >> Andrew is not mentioned in the will of James Forbes Beattie--I will post >> James Forbes Beattie's will and that of his father, Peter Beattie--this >> is a >> nice Scottish lineage. >> >> Laurel Baty, L252 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris & Sheila Hale" <[email protected]> >> To: "Donna VanZandt" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Cc: "BP2000" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [BP2000] Obit: Scotl>MD,PA,Alab,Australia >> >> >>> A likely family for Andrew >>> >>> 1851 Scotland Census >>> about James Forbes Beattie >>> Name: James Forbes Beattie >>> Age: 46 >>> Estimated birth year: abt 1805 >>> Relationship: Head >>> Spouse's name: Jane B >>> Gender: Male >>> Where born: Insch, Abdnsh >>> Parish Number: 168B >>> Civil parish: Old Machar >>> County: Aberdeenshire >>> Address: 6 E Crabstone St >>> Occupation: Iandsurnerpr & Enjmeer >>> ED: 26 >>> Page: 10 (click to see others on page) >>> Household schedule number: 34 >>> Line: 18 >>> Roll: CSSCT1851_40 >>> Household Members: >>> Name Age >>> Andrew Beattie 6 born NS Wales >>> Charles A Beattie 1 >>> Elizabeth Beattie 10 >>> James A Beattie 4 >>> James Forbes Beattie 46 >>> Jane B Beattie 43 >>> William C Beattie 8 >>> Ann Gordan 45 >>> Elizabeth Rae 27 >>> Elizabeth Rae 3 >>> John Rae 30 >>> Mary Rae 1 >>> Jean Reid 33 >>> Elizabeth Smith 36 >>> Gray Souter 23 >>> ______________________________________- >>> >>> 1861 Scotland Census >>> about Andrew Beattie >>> Name: Andrew Beattie >>> Age: 16 >>> Estimated birth year: abt 1845 >>> Relationship: Son >>> Father's name: James F >>> Mother's name: Jane B >>> Gender: Male >>> Where born: Sydney, New South Wales >>> Registration Number: 168B >>> Registration district: Old Machar >>> Civil parish: Old Machar >>> County: Aberdeenshire >>> Address: 6 East Craibstone St >>> Occupation: Scholar >>> ED: 11 >>> Page: 46 (click to see others on page) >>> Household schedule number: 224 >>> Line: 12 >>> Roll: CSSCT1861_26 >>> Household Members: >>> Name Age >>> Andrew Beattie 16 >>> Eliza Beattie 20 >>> James A Beattie 14 >>> James F Beattie 56 >>> Jane B Beattie 53 >>> William C Beattie 18 >>> Margaret Fraser 22 >>> Jane Reid 43 >>> Ann Robertson 29 >>> Helen Wallace 41 >>> >>> Sheila I Hale >>> 236/240 >>> >>> Donna VanZandt wrote: >>>> I can't seem to find a lineage for this group. Anyone recognize them? >>>> Donna L-3 >>>> >>>> November 24, 1905 >>>> The Courier (Connellsville, Fayette co., PA) >>>> >>>> ANDREW BEATTY DEAD >>>> For 20 Years He Was Mine Foreman at Morrell >>>> Andrew Beatty, for 20 years mine boss at the old Morrell works, died >>>> this >>>> morning at his home at Logan's Crossing, near Leisenring, aged 65 >>>> years. >>>> Mr. Beatty was born in Wales and came to the United States 40 years >>>> ago. >>>> He >>>> worked in the mines of Maryland and then came to the Coke region. After >>>> Morrell was worked out and the works were abandoned he moved to Valley >>>> Mines, where two years ago he received a bad fall. His side was >>>> injured >>>> by >>>> the fall and he was compelled to give up work. From the injury a bad >>>> sore >>>> developed. Two weeks ago this sore healed over, but it affected him >>>> internally and this was the cause of his death. He was a member of >>>> Fayette >>>> Lodge, Knights of Pythias, and this order will have charge of the >>>> funeral. >>>> Besides his wife he is survived by the following children: Roger, Mt. >>>> Pleasant; Robert, Adelaide; Neal, Little Washington; John, Australia; >>>> William and Charles, Masontown; Mrs. Jean Sheppler, Pittsburg; Mrs. >>>> Frank >>>> Rossell, Leisenring No, 3; and Miss Anna Beatty at home. One brother >>>> James >>>> Beatty of Alabama, also survives him. The funeral will take place >>>> Sunday. >>>> >>>> 1880 United States Federal Census >>>> Name: Agnes Beatter/definitely Beattie >>>> Home in 1880: Arnot, Tioga, Pennsylvania >>>> Age: 1 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1879 >>>> Birthplace: Pennsylvania >>>> Relation to head-of-household: Daughter >>>> Father's name: Andrew >>>> Father's birthplace: Sco >>>> Mother's name: Susan >>>> Mother's birthplace: Sco >>>> Marital Status: Single >>>> Race: White >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Andrew Beattie 36 miner Scot Scot Scot >>>> Susan Beattie 36 wife Scot Ire Ire >>>> Andrew Beattie 15 son miner Scot Scot Scot >>>> Robert Beattie 13 son miner Scot Scot Scot >>>> John Beattie 12 son miner Scot Scot Scot >>>> Neal Beattie 10 son PA Scot Scot >>>> James Beattie 7 son PA Scot Scot >>>> William Beattie 7 son PA Scot Scot >>>> Jane Beattie 5 dau PA Scot Scot >>>> Charles Beattie 3 son PA Scot Scot >>>> Agnes Beattie 1 dau PA Scot Scot >>>> John Mc Lean 27 miner Scot Scot Scot >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1900 United States Federal Census >>>> about Andrew Beattie >>>> Name: Andrew Beattie >>>> Home in 1900: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania >>>> Age: 58 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1842 >>>> Birthplace: Scotland >>>> Relationship to head-of-house: Head >>>> Spouse's name: Susan >>>> Race: White >>>> Immigration year: 1870 >>>> Neighbors: View others on page >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Andrew Beattie 58 head Apr 1842 married 37 ys immigrated 1870-30 ys in >>>> US-naturalized, Scotland Scotland Scotland >>>> Susan Beattie 60 wife May 1840 married 37 ys immigrated 1870-30 ys in >>>> US-12ch 10 lvg, Scotland Scotland Scotland >>>> William Beattie 26 son Sept 1873 single PA Scot Scot driver in pit. >>>> >>>> 1910 United States Federal Census >>>> about Susan Beatty >>>> Name: Susan Beatty >>>> Age in 1910: 65 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1845 >>>> Birthplace: Scotland >>>> Relation to Head of House: Head >>>> Father's Birth Place: Scotland >>>> Mother's Birth Place: Scotland >>>> Home in 1910: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania >>>> Marital Status: Widowed >>>> Race: White >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Year of Immigration: 1880 >>>> Neighbors: View others on page >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Susan Beatty 65 >>>> >>>> >>>> 1900 United States Federal Census >>>> about Jeanette Scheppler >>>> Name: Jeanette Scheppler >>>> Home in 1900: Pittsburgh Ward 11, Allegheny, Pennsylvania >>>> Age: 24 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1876 >>>> Birthplace: Pennsylvania >>>> Relationship to head-of-house: Wife >>>> Spouse's name: Jean >>>> Race: White >>>> Occupation: View image >>>> Neighbors: View others on page >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Jean Scheppler 26 head Apr 1874 mar 4 ys France France >>>> France -cook-immigr >>>> 1893 US for 7 ys PA >>>> Jeanette Scheppler 24 Oct 1875 mar 4 ys PA Scot Scot >>>> >>>> 1900 United States Federal Census >>>> about Agnes Rossell >>>> Name: Agnes Rossell >>>> Home in 1900: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania >>>> Age: 21 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1879 >>>> Birthplace: Pennsylvania >>>> Relationship to head-of-house: Wife >>>> Spouse's name: Frank >>>> Race: White >>>> Occupation: View image >>>> Neighbors: View others on page >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Frank Rossell 30 head Apr 1870 mar 4 ys PA PA PA common labor >>>> Agnes Rossell 21 wife aug 1878 mar 4 ys 2 ch 2 ch PA PA PA >>>> Davis Rossell 3 son Oct 1896 PA >>>> Eugene Rossell 2.12 son March 1900 PA >>>> >>>> 1880 United States Federal Census >>>> (maybe a bro to Andrew) >>>> Name: Neil Beattea >>>> Home in 1880: Arnot, Tioga, Pennsylvania >>>> Age: 35 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1845 >>>> Birthplace: Sco >>>> Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) >>>> Spouse's name: Jane >>>> Father's birthplace: Sco >>>> Mother's birthplace: Sco >>>> Neighbors: View others on page >>>> Occupation: Miner >>>> Marital Status: Married >>>> Race: White >>>> Gender: Male >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Neil Beattie 35 miner Scot Scot Scot >>>> Jane Beattea 35 wife Scot Scot Scot >>>> Andrew Beattea 6 son America Scot Scot >>>> William Beattea 2 son America Scot Scot >>>> >>>> 1900 United States Federal Census >>>> Name: Neal Beaty >>>> Home in 1900: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania >>>> Age: 28 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1872 >>>> Birthplace: Pennsylvania >>>> Relationship to head-of-house: Head >>>> Spouse's name: Christina >>>> Race: White >>>> Occupation: View image >>>> Neighbors: View others on page >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Neal Beaty 28 head July 1871 PA PA PA coal digger >>>> Christina Beaty 24 wife Dec 1875 PA PA PA >>>> Eulela Beaty 4 Feb 1896 PA PA PA >>>> Margaret Beaty 10.12 July 1899 PA PA PA >>>> >>>> 1910 United States Federal Census >>>> Name: Robert S Beatty >>>> Age in 1910: 43 >>>> Estimated birth year: abt 1867 >>>> Birthplace: Scotland >>>> Relation to Head of House: Head >>>> Father's Birth Place: England >>>> Mother's Birth Place: England >>>> Spouse's name: Mary >>>> Home in 1910: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania >>>> Marital Status: Married >>>> Race: White >>>> Gender: Male >>>> Year of Immigration: 1878 >>>> Adelaide Town on top of page >>>> Household Members: Name Age >>>> Robert S Beatty 43 head mar once for 16 ys Scot Eng Eng coal >>>> miner(immig >>>> 1875 NA) >>>> Mary Beatty 33 wife mar once 16 ys 9 ch 7 lvg Germ Germ Germ (imm >>>> 1886) >>>> William Beatty 14 son PA Scot Germ >>>> Robert Beatty Jr 11 son PA Scot Germ >>>> Nellie Beatty 9 dau PA Scot Germ >>>> Edward Beatty 7 son PA Scot Germ >>>> Charles Beatty 5 son PA Scot Germ >>>> John Beatty 3 PA Scot Germ >>>> Paul Beatty 6/12 PA Scot Germ >>>> >>>> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >>>> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your >>>> reply. >>>> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >>>> with the message subject to which you are replying. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 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