I realized that I had confused 2 different Matthew Beatties in Renfrew, Scotland in my last message--both have fathers named John and mothers named Mary. Here is a modified Census, with marriage and death. I believe the Matthew Beattie that died in 1916 in Port-Glasgow, Renfrew Scotland could be the brother of Edmund Beattie of L438 (based on the fact that they were both born in Ireland and living at the same address in the 1881 Census. L438 Edmond Beattie's marriage record states his father's name was John Betty and his mother was Mary Nicholson): Matthew Beattie's marriage record shows he married Elizabeth McVane on February 20, 1880 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. His father's name was John Beattie and his mother was Mary Nichol. Matthew Beattie died May 4, 1916 in Port-Glasgow, Renfrew, aged 59; father John Beattie, mother Mary Nichol; married to Elizabeth McVane; son Robert signs death certificate. 1881 Scotland Census Name: Matthew Beattie Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 564/3 Registration district: Greenock West Civil parish: Greenock West County: Renfrewshire Address: 70 Ann St Occupation: Sugarhouse Lab ED: 41 Page: 36 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 165 Line: 8 Roll: cssct1881_167 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Beattie 22 Matthew Beattie 24 Matthew Beattie 1 Source Citation: Parish: Greenock West; ED: 41; Line: 8; Year: 1881. 1891 Scotland Census 1891 Scotland Census Name: Matthew Bettie Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 564/2 Registration district: Greenock West Civil parish: Greenock West Town: Greenock County: Renfrewshire Address: 17 Prospecthill Street Occupation: Sugarhouse Labourer ED: 46 Page: 29 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 116 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1891_183 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Bettie 32 Kathern Bettie 6 Matthew Bettie 34 Matthew Bettie 2 Robert Bettie 4 Source Citation: Parish: Greenock West; ED: 46; Line: 15; Year: 1891. 1901 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census Name: Matthew Beattie Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 574 Registration district: Port Glasgow Civil parish: Port Glasgow County: Renfrewshire Address: 35 Princes St Occupation: Shipyard Labourer ED: 13 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 41 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1901_213 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Beattie 16 Elizabeth Beattie 42 Elizabeth Beattie 7 George Beattie 4 Mathew Beattie 11 Matthew Beattie 44 Robert Beattie 13 Source Citation: Parish: Port Glasgow; ED: 13; Line: 3; Year: 1901. There is another unrelated Matthew Beattie in Renfrew, Renfrewshire, Scotland with father John and mother Mary. There is a marriage record for Matthew Betty, aged 25, son of John Betty, deceased, and mother, Mary Colten, in Renfrew, Renfrewshire, Scotland, Dec. 29, 1871. He married Elizabeth McVey, aged 19. There is a death record for a Matthew Beattie, aged 57, who died Dec. 12, 1910 in Renfrew, Renfrew Scotland. His father's name was John Beattie and his mother was Mary Beattie. The Certificate is signed by son Matthew. 1891 Scotland Census 1891 Scotland Census Name: Matthew Beattie Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 575 Registration district: Renfrew Civil parish: Renfrew Town: Renfrew County: Renfrewshire Address: 32 Manse St Occupation: Labourer ED: 1 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 79 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1891_195 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Beattie 2 Elizabeth Beattie 43 Elizabeth Beattie 7 James Beattie 19 Jane Beattie 12 Mary Beattie 14 Matthew Beattie 45 Matthew Beattie 9 Sarah Beattie 11 Source Citation: Parish: Renfrew; ED: 1; Line: 1; Year: 1891. 1901 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census Name: Matthew Beattie Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Lizzie Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 575 Registration district: Renfrew Civil parish: Renfrew Town: Renfrew County: Renfrewshire Address: 57 High St Occupation: Labourer Gas Work ED: 5 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 131 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1901_214 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Beattie 12 Jennie Beattie 22 Lizzie Beattie 44 Lizzie Beattie 14 Maggie Beattie 9 Matthew Beattie 50 Matthew Beattie 17 Sarah Beattie 19 Source Citation: Parish: Renfrew; ED: 5; Line: 8; Year: 1901. Laurel Baty, L252

Here are a few births and deaths from Scotland's People--including some from L438: Births from Scotland's People: Matthew Beattie was born April 2, 1880 to Matthew & Elizabeth McVean Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Matthew Beattie was born August 17, 1889 to Mathew & Elizabeth McFaun Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Robert Beattie was born April 29, 1887 to Mathew & Elizabeth McFaun Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Catherine Beattie was born January 6, 1885 to Matthew & Elizabeth McVean Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland George Beattie was born July 14, 1896 to Mathew & Elizabeth McFaun Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Edmond Beattie was born June 4, 1882 to Edmond & Martha Kirk Beattie of Johnstone & Elderslie, Renfrew, Scotland Mary Beattie was born May 6, 1878 to Edmond & Martha Kirk Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Martha Beattie was born August 27, 1880, 70 Ann Street, to Edmond & Martha Kirk Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland John Beattie was born December 17, 1876, to Edmond & Martha Kirk Beattie of Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Deaths from Scotland's People: Elizabeth Beattie died in 1930, Port Glasgow, Renfrew, Scotland, age 71, maiden name McFaun (father Robert, mother Margaret; widow of Matthew Beattie) George Beattie died Dec. 7, 1926, single, age 30; son of Matthew Beattie & Elizabeth McFaun; signed by Matthew Beattie, Broker, 15 Bay St., Port Glasgow Matthew Beattie died March 17, 1884 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland, aged 3 years 11 months; son of Matthew & Elizabeth McVean Beattie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: [BP2000] Two Matthew Beatties in Renfrew Scotland, L438? >I realized that I had confused 2 different Matthew Beatties in Renfrew, > Scotland in my last message--both have fathers named John and mothers > named > Mary. Here is a modified Census, with marriage and death. I believe the > Matthew Beattie that died in 1916 in Port-Glasgow, Renfrew Scotland could > be > the brother of Edmund Beattie of L438 (based on the fact that they were > both > born in Ireland and living at the same address in the 1881 Census. L438 > Edmond Beattie's marriage record states his father's name was John Betty > and > his mother was Mary Nicholson): > > Matthew Beattie's marriage record shows he married Elizabeth McVane on > February 20, 1880 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. His father's name was > John Beattie and his mother was Mary Nichol. > Matthew Beattie died May 4, 1916 in Port-Glasgow, Renfrew, aged 59; father > John Beattie, mother Mary Nichol; married to Elizabeth McVane; son Robert > signs death certificate. > > 1881 Scotland Census > Name: Matthew Beattie > Age: 24 > Estimated birth year: abt 1857 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Elizabeth > Gender: Male > Where born: Ireland > Registration Number: 564/3 > Registration district: Greenock West > Civil parish: Greenock West > County: Renfrewshire > Address: 70 Ann St > Occupation: Sugarhouse Lab > ED: 41 > Page: 36 (click to see others on page) > Household schedule number: 165 > Line: 8 > Roll: cssct1881_167 > Household Members: Name Age > Elizabeth Beattie 22 > Matthew Beattie 24 > Matthew Beattie 1 > Source Citation: Parish: Greenock West; ED: 41; Line: 8; Year: 1881. > > 1891 Scotland Census 1891 Scotland Census > Name: Matthew Bettie > Age: 34 > Estimated birth year: abt 1857 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Elizabeth > Gender: Male > Where born: Ireland > Registration Number: 564/2 > Registration district: Greenock West > Civil parish: Greenock West > Town: Greenock > County: Renfrewshire > Address: 17 Prospecthill Street > Occupation: Sugarhouse Labourer > ED: 46 > Page: 29 (click to see others on page) > Household schedule number: 116 > Line: 15 > Roll: CSSCT1891_183 > Household Members: Name Age > Elizabeth Bettie 32 > Kathern Bettie 6 > Matthew Bettie 34 > Matthew Bettie 2 > Robert Bettie 4 > > Source Citation: Parish: Greenock West; ED: 46; Line: 15; Year: 1891. > > 1901 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census > Name: Matthew Beattie > Age: 44 > Estimated birth year: abt 1857 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Elizabeth > Gender: Male > Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire > Registration Number: 574 > Registration district: Port Glasgow > Civil parish: Port Glasgow > County: Renfrewshire > Address: 35 Princes St > Occupation: Shipyard Labourer > ED: 13 > Page: 10 (click to see others on page) > Household schedule number: 41 > Line: 3 > Roll: CSSCT1901_213 > Household Members: Name Age > Catherine Beattie 16 > Elizabeth Beattie 42 > Elizabeth Beattie 7 > George Beattie 4 > Mathew Beattie 11 > Matthew Beattie 44 > Robert Beattie 13 > Source Citation: Parish: Port Glasgow; ED: 13; Line: 3; Year: 1901. > > > There is another unrelated Matthew Beattie in Renfrew, Renfrewshire, > Scotland with father John and mother Mary. There is a marriage record for > Matthew Betty, aged 25, son of John Betty, deceased, and mother, Mary > Colten, in Renfrew, Renfrewshire, Scotland, Dec. 29, 1871. He married > Elizabeth McVey, aged 19. There is a death record for a Matthew Beattie, > aged 57, who died Dec. 12, 1910 in Renfrew, Renfrew Scotland. His > father's > name was John > Beattie and his mother was Mary Beattie. The Certificate is signed by son > Matthew. > > 1891 Scotland Census 1891 Scotland Census > Name: Matthew Beattie > Age: 45 > Estimated birth year: abt 1846 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Elizabeth > Gender: Male > Where born: Ireland > Registration Number: 575 > Registration district: Renfrew > Civil parish: Renfrew > Town: Renfrew > County: Renfrewshire > Address: 32 Manse St > Occupation: Labourer > ED: 1 > Page: 22 (click to see others on page) > Household schedule number: 79 > Line: 1 > Roll: CSSCT1891_195 > Household Members: Name Age > Agnes Beattie 2 > Elizabeth Beattie 43 > Elizabeth Beattie 7 > James Beattie 19 > Jane Beattie 12 > Mary Beattie 14 > Matthew Beattie 45 > Matthew Beattie 9 > Sarah Beattie 11 > Source Citation: Parish: Renfrew; ED: 1; Line: 1; Year: 1891. > > 1901 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census > Name: Matthew Beattie > Age: 50 > Estimated birth year: abt 1851 > Relationship: Head > Spouse's name : Lizzie > Gender: Male > Where born: Ireland > Registration Number: 575 > Registration district: Renfrew > Civil parish: Renfrew > Town: Renfrew > County: Renfrewshire > Address: 57 High St > Occupation: Labourer Gas Work > ED: 5 > Page: 26 (click to see others on page) > Household schedule number: 131 > Line: 8 > Roll: CSSCT1901_214 > Household Members: Name Age > Agnes Beattie 12 > Jennie Beattie 22 > Lizzie Beattie 44 > Lizzie Beattie 14 > Maggie Beattie 9 > Matthew Beattie 50 > Matthew Beattie 17 > Sarah Beattie 19 > Source Citation: Parish: Renfrew; ED: 5; Line: 8; Year: 1901. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message