I am updating L-510 and wondering if we have any members who could help with some census for Canada. Known info from oral tradition & research of DB and Wm.'s dau on 1900 census living with Isabelle/Belle (widow of John) and relationship is "niece". Is there a cir 1860 census for Canada? My Canadian geography is pretty bad but here goes: John and Mary Casey Beattie married 1846? John Beattie and Mary Ann Casey Beattie were married in 1846? Valerie Tweedie Bartlett shared this information with me (DB) from Deborah Hale's Kouchibuguac Marriage List (03-07-02). "Known" children: 1. John Jack Beattie (cir1847-49 to 27 Dec 1896) married Isabella "Belle" McSwain cir 1872" 2. Wm born cir Apr 1853-1914 married (1) 9 Aug 1876 Elizabeth Campbell (1853-1894) married (2) Annie (maiden name unknown)Bruner Dec 1870- 1880: Emporium, Cameron, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255111 National Archives Film T9-1111 Page 516D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John BEATTIE Self M M W 31 Nova. SCOT Occ: Teamster Fa: Nova. SCOT Mo: N. SCOT Belle BEATTIE Wife F M W 27 PR. EDW. IS. Occ: Keeping House Fa: SCO Mo: SCO Lindley E. BEATTIE Son M S W 7 PA Occ: At Home Fa: N. SCOT Mo: PR. EDW. IS. Cora N. BEATTIE Dau F S W 3 PA Occ: At Home Fa: N.SCOT Mo: PR. EDW 1900 United States Federal Census about Leroy Beattie Name: Leroy Beattie Home in 1900: Emporium, Cameron, Pennsylvania Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relationship to head-of-house: Son Parent's Name: Isabel Race: White Occupation: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Isabel Beattie 48 head july 1851 widowed 6 ch 4 lvg Can Scot Scot immig 1872 here 28 ys George Beattie 18 son dec 1881 PA Can Can -express ???manager?? Leroy Beattie 12 son dec 1887 PA Can Can Gordon Beattie 10 son feb 1890 PA Can Can 1910 United States Federal Census about Gorden Beatter Name: Gorden Beatter [Gorden Beattie] Age in 1910: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Birth Place: Canada English Mother's name: Belle Mother's Birth Place: Canada English Home in 1910: Emporium West Ward, Cameron, Pennsylvania Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Belle Beatter 38 head Canada Scot Scot George Beatter 28 son PA Can Can Roy Beatter 26 son PA Can Can Gorden Beatter 20 son PA Can Can Merrill Beatter 18 niece PA Can Can 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Belle Beattie Home in 1920: Emporium West Ward, Cameron, Pennsylvania Age: 68 years Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Birthplace: Canada Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Birth Place: Scotland Marital Status: Widow Race: White Sex: Female Home owned: Own Year of Immigration: 1869 Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 647 Household Members: Name Age Belle Beattie 68 head widowed imm 1869 and naturalized in 1872 born Canada, father born Scotland, mother born Scotland Dorothy Thompson 21 roomer single PA NY PA clerk in dry goods store 1930 United States Federal Census about Isabell Beattye Name: Isabell Beattye Home in 1930: Emporium, Cameron, Pennsylvania Age: 77 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Birthplace: Canada Relation to Head of House: Head Race: White Household Members: Name Age Isabell Beattye 77 head widowed-married at 21 born Canada father born Scot mother born Scot immigrated 1869-naturalized (Wm. census)-US 1900 United States Federal Census about Murrel E Beattie Name: Murrel E Beattie Home in 1900: Jones, Elk, Pennsylvania Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Annie Race: White Occupation: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Beattie 47 head apr 1853 Canada Can Can woodsman mar 3 ys immig 1874-here 26 ys-Naturalized Annie Beattie 29 wife dec 1870 mar 3 ys 3 ch 2 lvg PA PA PA Emma Beattie 17 dau apr 1883 PA Canada Canada George J Beattie 12 son oct 1887 PA Canada Canada Murrel E Beattie 8 dau apr 1892 PA Canada Canada Lenore M Bruner 7 step dau dec 1892 PA Germ PA Frances E Bruner 4 step dau oct 1895 PA Germ PA 1910 United States Federal Census about Paul E Beattie Name: Paul E Beattie Age in 1910: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1901 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relation to Head of House: Son Father's name: William Father's Birth Place: Canada Mother's name: Annie Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania Home in 1910: Barclay, Bradford, Pennsylvania Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Beattie 59 head mar twice for 13 ys Can Can Can superintendent -teamster driver? Annie Beattie 39 wife mar twice for 13 ys 5ch 4lvg PA US PA Paul E Beattie 9 son PA Hazel R Beattie 2 dau PA Lenore Brummer 17 step dau PA Germ PA Frances Brummer 14 stepdau PA Germ PA 1920 United States Federal Census about Paul Beattie Name: Paul Beattie Home in 1920: Williamsport Ward 6, Lycoming, Pennsylvania Age: 18 years Estimated birth year: abt 1902 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Birth Place: Canada Mother's name: William Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 709 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mrs. William Beattie 49 head widowed PA PA PA Paul Beattie 18 son PA Can PA core maker at Lycoming foundry Hazel Beattie 12 dau PA Can PA Leon S Allen 27 son in law PA PA PA millwright lycoming Foundry Frances Allen 24 dau PA Can PA stitcher-rubber co. Margaret Allen 3 1/12 grandau PA PA PA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Other info. from Don: There is another son of John Baytie and Nancy (Agnes) Clarke Beattie named James, their first; maybe he was born in 1815 if not 1817. He was probably born in Scotland. Probably Dumfriesshire if not Troqueer, Kirkcudbritshire where John and Anges were married in 1812. The had a daughter Elizabeth of which I only know was born in 1813 in Kirkcudbrightshire. It seems this way for that James Beattie: a son John (known as Jack Beattie); Jack is buried in Kouchibouguac, NB, Canada. Jack married Bert (?) and they had two children: Vera (who lives in Moncton, NB, Canada and was married to a Swazee. She has one daughter. Vera's brother was Jim Beattie. He died a few years ago in Dieppe, NB, Canada (which is near Moncton, NB). Bert died two years ago. Jim and June (second wife; Jim's first wife died in an auto accident--they had Corine and Francine) have a son, John who is 29. I went to his wedding in Moncton last November. The fourth brother, George Beattie, from John Baytie and Nancy Clarke Beattie, does not have any livin g heirs. He died in 1874 and is buried in the Rexton, NB, Canada Cemetery. As you know, I come from Peter Randolph Beattie, Sr., the third of the four Beattie brothers. Peter was the one born on the Atlantic Ocean. Sincerely, Don Beattie From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: More Beatties in Emporium, PA. From Don Beattie Date: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:47 AM JOHN Beattie (b. ca. 1847 [I like 1849 or 1850 better]; d. ca. 12/27/1896, age 49). See more on John below Nancy Beattie's biographical notes. Son of John Beattie (ca. 1818-1910) and Mary Ann Casey (b. The 1880 Census for Cameron County, Emporium Borough, June 4, 1880, page 12 (Census Roll #1111 (1880) says that John Beattie was age 31, a teamster and born in Nova Scotia and of Nova Scotia heritage. This same census says that his wife was Belle Beattie, age 27, keeping house, and born in Prince Edward Island of Scottish heritage. During that census there were two children living at home: Lindley E, age 7 and Cora N, age three, both born in Pennsylvania with a Nova Scotia heritage. Family/oral history has said that some of the Beatties were either born or lived in PEI or Nova Scotia. Here is the evidence with respect to John and Isabelle. They are both buried in the Newton Cemetery in Emporium, PA. (Source: Observation by Donald W. Beattie, there, April 28, 1985). John Beattie married Isabelle McSwan (b. ca 1850, according to her gravestone; d. Oct 5, 1937), known as Aunt Belle, according to their family friend and a direct nephew of Belle, George Shadman of Waterlooo, NY, who has been a great help/contact since I met him at a Beattie Family Reunion, in Binghamton, NY at my home in the early fall of 1981. Ruth Christman Swenson also verified that Aunt Belle was her direct relative from Murial Beattie, Ruth's mother in a letter to me dated, February 13, 1997. There is a Belle Beattie who lived years ago on the corner of 6th and Maple Street, according to the Cameron County Historical Society (Edna H. Bowser to Donald W. Beattie, September 9, 1980),"interred in Newton Cemetery, [but] her grave is unmarked. The John Beattie, which follows for a couple of paragraphs is a bit of a mystery to me, but only in the sense that records speak of a Sarah for a wife, when he died in 1896, and not an Isabelle. In looking at the Emporium, Pennsylvania Tombstone Inscriptions, copied and compiled by Cornelius E. Koppenheffer, 351 oward Cirlce, Emporium, Pennsylvania, December 22, 1967, I saw this same Sarah, John Beattie and Cora and LeRoy Beattie listed as persons buried in Emporium. It was in a listing with William and Elizabeth Beattie and Peter Randolph Beattie, Sr. and his third wife, Catherine W. (Kriner) Fetter. I believed, perhaps, that the copier/compiler put Sarah rather than Isabelle (Belle) on the list. One contrarian view would be that John may have had a wife, Sarah, before he married Isabelle McSwan. Nonetheless, this is the John Beattie who married Isabelle McSwan Beattie, according to Isabelle's grand neice, Ruth Christman Swenson whose, mother was Murial Elizabeth Beattie, neice to John and Isabelle Beattie. Murial went to live with her Aunt Belle when her own mother, wife of William Beattie, Elizabeth McDonald Beattie, died. Murial was age five at that time according to Ruth Christman Swenson, but other records show that Murial was just over two years of age. As a girl, in Emporium, Murial remembered sliding down Beattie Hill. It may have merely been an hill where/near the Beattie's lived. (Ruth Swenson to Donald W. Beattie, January 29, 1997 and Ruth Swenson to Donald W. Beattie, February 11, 1997). According to records of which I have seen copies from the Cameron County Historical Society, there was a JOHN Beattie--sometimes known as Little Jack (no birth dates, but if he died in 1896 at age 46 or 49, as other CCHS records suggests; therefore, he could have been born as early as 1847) who died on 12/22, 1896, age 49, whose wife was Sarah ______. I found that his parents, John Beattie and Mary Ann Casey Beattie were married in 1846? Valerie Tweedie Bartlett shared this information with me from Deborah Hale's Kouchibuguac Marriage List (03-07-02). So, even 1847 is a good date for this John's birth. This same CCHS record includes information about a daughter, Cora, who died 2/12/1881 (age, one year, ten months and two days, and a son, LeRoy Beattie (dates: 12/31/1887 - 4/26/1933, Pvt. 62nd. Trans. Corps. WW I, length of service, 2/5/1918 -- 8/5/1919. Buried near his parents in Emporium, PA, his gravestone says: Leroy W. Beattie, Pennsylvania Corpoal, d. April 25, 1935. (Source: Donald W. Beattie observation of his gravestone inscription, April 28, 1985). These may be the Cora and Roy whom George Shadman speaks about in his letter to me in 1981, in which Shadman stated that LeRoy and Cora were children of John Beattie and Isabelle McSwan Beattie and that they had died young. According to Edna H. Bower's "findings" sent to me on September 2, 1980, "In the 1850-60 census of Cameron County area, before Cameron County was formed in 1860 from Clinton, Elk, McKean, and Potter Counties, there is no one listed with the surname of Beattie." Nonetheless, she sent some fragments of households for Cameron County from the Cameron County Census of April 20, 1880. Her findings were these of my great grandfather Peter R. Beattie, age 50 and a wife, June L., age 46. Regarding John Beattie, age 31 and Wife Belle age 27, there were two children listed: Lindley E. age 7 (boy) and Cora A. age 3. I've found in my researching, that ages change from one census to another, often. Lindley E. Beattie was born before Cora Beattie and Leroy Beattie. Another account in the Cameron County Historical Society states that a John Beat[t]ie, male, age 46, married, born in Canada, a laborer, who died at North Creek, Cameron County [PA], as a result of being crushed by logs was interred in Newton Cemetery, two days after he died on December 24, 1896 (he died December 22, 1896); his death was recorded on March 10, 1897. This probably is the same person mentioned in the paragraph, above, in the CCHS information, I assume. Note: A Roy J. McSwan of Conneaut, Ohio, was a brother of Belle Beattie and the father of Mrs. Ray Shadman, all of Emporium, PA. Isabelle Beattie died, Tuesday, October 5, 1937 at 4:20 AM. At the petition of her son, Linley [sic] (or perhaps, Lindley) E. Beattie, he had been appointed administrator of her estate, with bond of surety filed with Max Balcom, Book G, page 329. I'm sure that George Shadman told me this; he knew it and has a record of it being descended from Belle McSwan Beattie. George would be related to the Beattie Family, but only through his revered Aunt Belle's children. George Shadman attended many Beattie reunions in and near Emporium (probably at Sizerville State Park) for years, he told me, in 1981 at the Reunion in Chenango Bridge, NY. Before I note their other children, I want to insert the story of John's tragic death on December 22, 1896, taken from the Cameron County Historical Society microfilm files of the December 24, 1896 issue of The Cameron County Press. Compiled by Sandra Hornung. JACK BEATTIE KILLED On Tuesday afternoon, about five o'clock, our citizens were horror stricken when Frank Craven came to town with the information that Jack Beattie had been killed, while breaking a log jam, on North Creek. Mr. Beattie was employed as foreman for Frank Craven and in company with the gentleman and a crew of men were "splashing" logs out o North Creek. A large number of logs had formed a "jam" below the Chandler homestead and the crew went to the place to remove the jam in order to do some cribbing. Mr. Craven and Mr. Beattie were standing to-gether [sic] when the splash came on, and the logs commenced to break up. Between them and the bank was a deep hole, into which Mr. Beattie jumped into the water up to his arm-pits [sic], in his efforts to get to the shore. Seeing that the logs were rapidly piling over him, he cried to Mr. Craven to hand him a pike-lever, which he did. Mr. Craven pulled but poor Jack could not extricate himself from the rolling logs, which were then closing around and squeezing him, the blood flowing from his nose and mouth. The great mass of logs bore him under and rolled him along for a distance of twenty feet and left him floating behind. Mr. Craven, who was watching for the body, jumped into the stream and carried him [Jack Beattie] to the shore. The water being too high and swift to ford, the balance of the men were compelled to remain upon the opposite bank, leaving Mr. Craven along [sic] with the body. As soon as help could get across the stream the body was carried to a neighboring house and Dr. Heilman was sent for; also Mr. Craven to bear the sad intelligence to the poor wife and four small children [undoubtedly, LeRoy (Roy), Cora and William--perhaps Murial Elizabeth--this granddaughter was, perhaps, already living with John and Isabelle; see above]. Mr. Beattie, very evidently, was dead when taken from the water. As soon as word was received here [Emporium], Mr. Peter Beattie [his uncle and Donald W. Beattie's Great Grandfather] hastened to the scene of the accident with the grief stricken wife [Isabelle McSwain Beattie], hoping for the best. The remains were brought to Emporium, arriving here about 8 o'clock in the evening. Mr. John Beattie, who had been employed as foreman for Frank Craven ever since that gentleman has been lumbering for Howard & Company here [Emporium, PA], has been a hard working industrious man and a quiet, peaceable citizen. He leaves a widow and five [sic] children to mourn his sad death - Lindley Beattie, the eldest, being grown up and married. The death of Mr. Beattie has cast a gloom over our town, where he has lived so many years and the afflicted family have the greatest sympathy of our citizens in their great affliction. The funeral will take place to-day [sic] (Thursday) from the family residence, corner of Maple and sixth streets, at 2 p.m. Interment in Newton Cemetery. John Beattie's and Isabelle McSwan Beattie's children (some of them). 1. LINDLEY OR LINLEY Beattie (b. ca. 1863). Considered John and Isabelle Beattie's eldest son. I believed he lived in Buffalo, NY. Records at the Cameron County, PA Historical Society (Cameron County Census of April 20, 1880), state that LINLEY E. Beattie, was a son of John and Belle Beattie--a white male and a laborer who married Margaret Hetherman, both age 21, on November 2, 1892, by a minister of the name of J. H. McAdams at St. Mark's parsonage in Emporium, PA. Linley [Beattie] was born in Clinton County, PA and Margaret was born in Franklin, PA; her parents were Martin and Catherine Hetherman. On September 2, 1980, I received an answer to my query about Beatties in Cameron County, PA. Enclosed with the cover letter from Edna H. Bowser, President of the Cameron County Historical Society, I received some fragments of information on the Beatties, thereabouts. Most of the paragraph, above, comes from that letter/citatons. Another citation stated: "Leon J. Beattie, a male, father Lundley [sic] Beattie, mother Maggie, parents reside Fourth Street. Emporium, PA, father's occupation brakeman, was born 13 May 1900 in Emporium." Cora, who died 2/12/1881 and a son, LeRoy Beattie (dates: 12/31/1887 - 4/26/1933; his gravestone says that he died, April 25, 1935), Pvt. 62nd. Trans. Corps. WW I, length of service, 2/5/1918 -- 8/5/1919. Local folks in Emporium, even in 1980 remembered Leroy Beattie and recalled "that he had some connection with the Beattie Circus." (Edna H. Bowser to Donald W. Beattie, September 9, 1980). 2, CORA Beattie. Cora, died, young, in 2/12/1881. 3. LEROY Beattie. LeRoy Beattie (dates: 12/31/1887 - 4/26/1933; his gravestone says that he died, April 25, 1935), Pvt. 62nd. Trans. Corps. WW I, length of service, 2/5/1918 --8/5/191. Other sources say he was a Corporal when he completed service in the Army. 4. GORDON Beattie (b. February 11, 1890; d. February 23, 1974). Father of Donald Herbert Beattie. Who were the other children of John and Isabelle (Belle) McSwan Beattie? Gordon William Beattie was one son. He was the father of Donald Herbert Beattie. I believe that John and Mary Beattie's son, William, was Murial's father, and that Ruth Christman Swenson should have said that her mother, Murial, went to live with Aunt Belle when Murial's mother died when Murial was age five. That would make Aunt Bell Beattie, wife of John Beattie (son of John and Mary Ann Casey Beattie) Murial's aunt rather than her grandmother. For clarity and my sanity, I believe that this William, which follows, is the son of John Beattie and Mary Ann Casey Beattie and that this William is a brother to their son, John Beattie who died in the log jam in 1896. ----------- Our Beatties came from "Se Dumfries shire" to Kouchibouguac, Carleton Parish, Kent County, NB, Canada in 1829 and fanned out from there especially to Maine, PA and NY. Also Detroit, Michigan where Donald Herbert Beattie was born. Donald W. Beattie WILLIAM H. Beattie (probable dates: b. 4/8, 1852; d. 1914). Son of John Beattie (ca 1818-1910) and Mary Ann Casey. Undoubtedly, William was born at Kouchibouguac, Carleton Parish, Kent County [at one time, Northumberland, CO), NB, Canada. William was 20 during the Census of 1871 and living in Kent County. The 1881 Census for Carleton Parish, Kent County Census Records states the following about a William and Elizabeth Beattie: William Beattie age 30, born in NB, Presbyterian, Scott heritage, Laborer; Elizabeth age 29, born NB, Presbyterian, Irish heritage; Children included: Mary 4; Frederick 2 and James one month. This could be the same William Beattie with the dates noted above and family members, below. I found this "duplicate" as well: William Beattie, b. NB, age 30; Elizabeth, b. NB, age 29; Children: Mary, 14 [sic]; Frederick, age 2 and James, one half month (1/2 month).His first wife was Elizabeth (Lizzie) McDonald (1853 - 1894). William and Elizabeth Beattie were married on August 9, 1876. William and Elizabeth were both from Carleton Parish, Kent CO, but apparently married in Richibucto; their minister was not noted in this marriage compilation. Their witnesses were: Charles Little and Maggie Beattie. This is substantiated in the KENT COUNTY MARRIAGE REGISTER, VOLUME II (1861-1881), P. 150 Compiled/Edited by Helen P. Brooks in 1995. Elizabeth is buried with her husband, William H. Beattie at Emporium, Pennsylvania. I have seen that gravesite/stone in the Newton Protestant Cemetery, Shippen Tsp., Emporium, PA. It is located quite near the front/left, entering the cemetery, whereas Peter Randolph Beattie's gravsesite, in the same cemetery is located much further into the cemetery and to the right/back of it. This is the much larger cemetery, of the two that I know about, in Emporium (both are on different hills a mile apart, at least). This is the so-called Protestant Cemetery. The Wily Cemetery has only about 100 gravesides (most, not marked), whereas, Newton Cemetery, the larger of the two covers approximately 50 acres or more and most graves seem to be marked. WILLIAM H. and Elizabeth Beattie were both born in Kouchibouguac, NB, Canada. There is a notation in Paul Beattie's "genealogy" that a William Beattie went to St. Stephen's, NB, across from Calais, ME (border crossing there--this would be his closest to Maine/USA from Kouchibouguac; approximately 190 miles, nowadays) in 1879. That may have been to visit or to get documentation from the Custom Office, there. Or, perhaps William and Elizabeth lived there for a time after they were married. William, as did my great grandfather Peter R. Beattie, Sr., may have gone to PA, nonetheless, on the Canadian-Pacific Railroad--perhaps from St. Stephen's or from Fredericton, NB, Canada. William was naturalized in the USA in 1891. He was a lumberman as was his uncle, my grandfather, in Emporium. His wife, Elizabeth, was an housewife. William's second wife was, purportedly, Anne Bruner or Anne Brunner. They evidently lived in Laquin, PA rather than in Emporium, PA, whereas William and Elizabeth had several if not all of their children. DB ---------------------------- Donna L-3

Here is a L-510 descendancy chart. Seems to work except when I used after 1930 for a death or circa for birth-it uses just the number. Donna L-3 Descendants of John Baytie 1 John Baytie 1789 - .. +Nancy Agnes Clarke ........ 2 George Beattie 1812 - 1874 ........ 2 Elizabeth Beattie 1813 - ........ 2 James Beattie 1815 - ................... 3 John Jack Beattie ....................... +Bert ?? ........ 2 John Beattie 1818 - 1910 ............ +Mary Ann Casey ................... 3 John Jack Beattie 1849 - 1896 ....................... +Isabelle Belle McSwain 1851 - 1937 ............................. 4 Lindley Ellsworth Beattie 1874 - 1937 ................................. +Margaret ?? 1878 - ............................. 4 Cora N. Beattie 1877 - 1881 ............................. 4 George Eli Beattie 1881 - aft 1930 ............................. 4 Leroy Wells Beattie 1888 - 1935 ............................. 4 Gordon Beattie 1890 - 1974 ................................. +Anna Mae Hall 1896 - ................... 3 William Beattie 1853 - 1914 ....................... +Elizabeth McDonald 1853 - 1894 ............................. 4 Minnie E. Beattie 1877 - ................................. +Lewis E. Jones 1876 - ............................. 4 Frederick John Beattie 1879 - 1956 ................................. +Edna Helvering 1889 - 1967 ............................. 4 William Headley Beattie 1881 - ................................. +Fannie C. ?? 1882 - ............................. 4 Emma Beattie 1883 - ................................. +Alfred Nelson ............................. 4 George J. Beattie 1887 - ................................. +Mabel C. ?? ............................. 4 Muriel Murrel E. Beattie 1892 - ................................. +Henry Christman ................... *2nd Wife of William Beattie: ....................... +Annie ?? 1870 - ............................. 4 Paul E. Beattie 1901 - 1978 ................................. +Mary Henderson ............................. 4 Hazel R. Beattie 1908 - ................................. +Russell Ellis ........ 2 Peter Randolph Beattie, Sr. 1829 - ............ +Ann Harnett 1822 - ................... 3 Peter Randolph Beattie, Jr. 1859 - ....................... +Marmorie Nightengale McIntosh 1867 - ............................. 4 Peter Ernest Beattie 1908 - ................................. +Grace Louise Clark 1916 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <[email protected]> To: "BP2000" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: [BP2000] L-510 Canadian census look-up? I am updating L-510 and wondering if we have any members who could help with some census for Canada. Known info from oral tradition & research of DB and

I found the following on Scotland's people webpage: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ John Beattie and Agnes Clarke were married December 19, 1813 in Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire (original record available) Elizabeth Beattie, daughter of John Beattie and Nancy Clarke, was born Nov. 12, 1814 in Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire (original record available) James Beattie, son of John Beattie and Agnes Clarke, was baptized Oct. 7, 1815 in Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire (original record available) Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <[email protected]> To: "BP2000" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: [BP2000] L-510 Canadian census look-up? >I am updating L-510 and wondering if we have any members who could help >with > some census for Canada. Known info from oral tradition & research of DB > and > Wm.'s dau on 1900 census living with Isabelle/Belle (widow of John) and > relationship is "niece". Is there a cir 1860 census for Canada? My > Canadian > geography is pretty bad but here goes: > >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Other info. from Don: > There is another son of John Baytie and Nancy (Agnes) Clarke Beattie named > James, their first; maybe he was born in 1815 if not 1817. He was probably > born in Scotland. Probably Dumfriesshire if not Troqueer, > Kirkcudbritshire > where John and Anges were married in 1812. The had a daughter Elizabeth > of which > I only know was born in 1813 in Kirkcudbrightshire. > It seems this way for that James Beattie: a son John (known as Jack > Beattie); Jack is buried in Kouchibouguac, NB, Canada. Jack married Bert > (?) > and they had two children: Vera (who lives in Moncton, NB, Canada and was > married to > a Swazee. She has one daughter. Vera's brother was Jim Beattie. He died a > few > years ago in Dieppe, NB, Canada (which is near Moncton, NB). Bert died two > years ago. Jim and June (second wife; Jim's first wife died in an auto > accident--they had Corine and Francine) have a son, John who is 29. I > went > to his wedding in Moncton last November. > The fourth brother, George Beattie, from John Baytie and Nancy Clarke > Beattie, does not have any living heirs. He died in 1874 and is buried in > the Rexton, NB, Canada Cemetery. As you know, I come from Peter Randolph > Beattie, Sr., the third of the four Beattie brothers. Peter was the one > born on the > Atlantic Ocean. > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

There is a 1851 and 1861(don't know if it is online) Census for Canada. I have only the 1851 census for Kings County and St John County in New Brunswick. It is online but have to search individual census sheets for certain area's.. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1851/index-e.html http://webhome.idirect.com/~cpwalsh/nb/censusacts.htm These should help you find what you are looking for. Mardi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <[email protected]> To: "BP2000" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:56 AM Subject: [BP2000] L-510 Canadian census look-up? >I am updating L-510 and wondering if we have any members who could help >with > some census for Canada. Known info from oral tradition & research of DB > and > Wm.'s dau on 1900 census living with Isabelle/Belle (widow of John) and > relationship is "niece". Is there a cir 1860 census for Canada? My > Canadian > geography is pretty bad but here goes: > > John and Mary Casey Beattie married 1846? John Beattie and Mary Ann > Casey > Beattie were married in 1846? Valerie Tweedie > Bartlett shared this information with me (DB) from Deborah Hale's > Kouchibuguac > Marriage List (03-07-02). > > "Known" children: > 1. John Jack Beattie (cir1847-49 to 27 Dec 1896) married Isabella "Belle" > McSwain cir 1872" > 2. Wm born cir Apr 1853-1914 married (1) 9 Aug 1876 Elizabeth Campbell > (1853-1894) married (2) Annie (maiden name unknown)Bruner Dec 1870- > > 1880: Emporium, Cameron, Pennsylvania > Source: FHL Film 1255111 National Archives Film T9-1111 Page 516D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > John BEATTIE Self M M W 31 Nova. SCOT > Occ: Teamster Fa: Nova. SCOT Mo: N. SCOT > Belle BEATTIE Wife F M W 27 PR. EDW. IS. > Occ: Keeping House Fa: SCO Mo: SCO > Lindley E. BEATTIE Son M S W 7 PA > Occ: At Home Fa: N. SCOT Mo: PR. EDW. IS. > Cora N. BEATTIE Dau F S W 3 PA > Occ: At Home Fa: N.SCOT Mo: PR. EDW > > 1900 United States Federal Census > about Leroy Beattie > Name: Leroy Beattie > Home in 1900: Emporium, Cameron, Pennsylvania > Age: 12 > Estimated birth year: abt 1888 > Birthplace: Pennsylvania > Relationship to head-of-house: Son > Parent's Name: Isabel > Race: White > Occupation: View image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Isabel Beattie 48 head july 1851 widowed 6 ch 4 lvg Can Scot Scot immig > 1872 > here 28 ys > George Beattie 18 son dec 1881 PA Can Can -express ???manager?? > Leroy Beattie 12 son dec 1887 PA Can Can > Gordon Beattie 10 son feb 1890 PA Can Can > > 1910 United States Federal Census > about Gorden Beatter > Name: Gorden Beatter > [Gorden Beattie] > Age in 1910: 20 > Estimated birth year: abt 1890 > Birthplace: Pennsylvania > Relation to Head of House: Son > Father's Birth Place: Canada English > Mother's name: Belle > Mother's Birth Place: Canada English > Home in 1910: Emporium West Ward, Cameron, Pennsylvania > Marital Status: Single > Race: White > Gender: Male > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Belle Beatter 38 head Canada Scot Scot > George Beatter 28 son PA Can Can > Roy Beatter 26 son PA Can Can > Gorden Beatter 20 son PA Can Can > Merrill Beatter 18 niece PA Can Can > > 1920 United States Federal Census > Name: Belle Beattie > Home in 1920: Emporium West Ward, Cameron, Pennsylvania > Age: 68 years > Estimated birth year: abt 1852 > Birthplace: Canada > Relation to Head of House: Head > Father's Birth Place: Scotland > Mother's Birth Place: Scotland > Marital Status: Widow > Race: White > Sex: Female > Home owned: Own > Year of Immigration: 1869 > Able to read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Image: 647 > Household Members: Name Age > Belle Beattie 68 head widowed imm 1869 and naturalized in 1872 born > Canada, > father born Scotland, mother born Scotland > Dorothy Thompson 21 roomer single PA NY PA clerk in dry goods store > > > 1930 United States Federal Census > about Isabell Beattye > Name: Isabell Beattye > Home in 1930: Emporium, Cameron, Pennsylvania > Age: 77 > Estimated birth year: abt 1853 > Birthplace: Canada > Relation to Head of House: Head > Race: White > Household Members: Name Age > Isabell Beattye 77 head widowed-married at 21 born Canada father born > Scot > mother born Scot immigrated 1869-naturalized > (Wm. census)-US > 1900 United States Federal Census > about Murrel E Beattie > Name: Murrel E Beattie > Home in 1900: Jones, Elk, Pennsylvania > Age: 8 > Estimated birth year: abt 1892 > Birthplace: Pennsylvania > Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter > Father's name: William > Mother's name: Annie > Race: White > Occupation: View image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > William Beattie 47 head apr 1853 Canada Can Can woodsman mar 3 ys immig > 1874-here 26 ys-Naturalized > Annie Beattie 29 wife dec 1870 mar 3 ys 3 ch 2 lvg PA PA PA > Emma Beattie 17 dau apr 1883 PA Canada Canada > George J Beattie 12 son oct 1887 PA Canada Canada > Murrel E Beattie 8 dau apr 1892 PA Canada Canada > Lenore M Bruner 7 step dau dec 1892 PA Germ PA > Frances E Bruner 4 step dau oct 1895 PA Germ PA > > 1910 United States Federal Census > about Paul E Beattie > Name: Paul E Beattie > Age in 1910: 9 > Estimated birth year: abt 1901 > Birthplace: Pennsylvania > Relation to Head of House: Son > Father's name: William > Father's Birth Place: Canada > Mother's name: Annie > Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania > Home in 1910: Barclay, Bradford, Pennsylvania > Marital Status: Single > Race: White > Gender: Male > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > William Beattie 59 head mar twice for 13 ys Can Can Can > superintendent -teamster driver? > Annie Beattie 39 wife mar twice for 13 ys 5ch 4lvg PA US PA > Paul E Beattie 9 son PA > Hazel R Beattie 2 dau PA > Lenore Brummer 17 step dau PA Germ PA > Frances Brummer 14 stepdau PA Germ PA > > 1920 United States Federal Census > about Paul Beattie > Name: Paul Beattie > Home in 1920: Williamsport Ward 6, Lycoming, Pennsylvania > Age: 18 years > Estimated birth year: abt 1902 > Birthplace: Pennsylvania > Relation to Head of House: Son > Father's Birth Place: Canada > Mother's name: William > Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania > Marital Status: Single > Race: White > Sex: Male > Able to read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Image: 709 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Mrs. William Beattie 49 head widowed PA PA PA > Paul Beattie 18 son PA Can PA core maker at Lycoming foundry > Hazel Beattie 12 dau PA Can PA > Leon S Allen 27 son in law PA PA PA millwright lycoming Foundry > Frances Allen 24 dau PA Can PA stitcher-rubber co. > Margaret Allen 3 1/12 grandau PA PA PA > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Other info. from Don: > There is another son of John Baytie and Nancy (Agnes) Clarke Beattie named > James, their first; maybe he was born in 1815 if not 1817. He was probably > born in Scotland. Probably Dumfriesshire if not Troqueer, > Kirkcudbritshire > where > John and Anges were married in 1812. The had a daughter Elizabeth of > which > I > only know was born in 1813 in Kirkcudbrightshire. > It seems this way for that James Beattie: a son John (known as Jack > Beattie); Jack is buried in Kouchibouguac, NB, Canada. Jack married Bert > (?) > and they > had two children: Vera (who lives in Moncton, NB, Canada and was married > to > a Swazee. She has one daughter. Vera's brother was Jim Beattie. He died a > few > years ago in Dieppe, NB, Canada (which is near Moncton, NB). Bert died two > years ago. Jim and June (second wife; Jim's first wife died in an auto > accident--they had Corine and Francine) have a son, John who is 29. I > went > to his wedding in Moncton last November. > The fourth brother, George Beattie, from John Baytie and Nancy Clarke > Beattie, does not have any livin g heirs. He died in 1874 and is buried in > the > Rexton, NB, Canada Cemetery. As you know, I come from Peter Randolph > Beattie, > Sr., the third of the four Beattie brothers. Peter was the one born on > the > Atlantic Ocean. > > Sincerely, Don Beattie > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Subject: More Beatties in Emporium, PA. From Don Beattie > Date: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:47 AM > > JOHN Beattie (b. ca. 1847 [I like 1849 or 1850 better]; d. ca. > 12/27/1896, > age 49). See more on John below Nancy Beattie's biographical notes. > Son of John Beattie (ca. 1818-1910) and Mary Ann Casey (b. > The 1880 Census for Cameron County, Emporium Borough, June 4, 1880, page > 12 > (Census Roll #1111 (1880) says that John Beattie was age 31, a teamster > and > born in Nova Scotia and of Nova Scotia heritage. This same census says > that > his wife was Belle Beattie, age 27, keeping house, and born in Prince > Edward > Island of Scottish heritage. During that census there were two children > living at home: Lindley E, age 7 and Cora N, age three, both born in > Pennsylvania with a Nova Scotia heritage. Family/oral history has said > that some of the > Beatties were either born or lived in PEI or Nova Scotia. Here is the > evidence with respect to John and Isabelle. They are both buried in the > Newton > Cemetery in Emporium, PA. (Source: Observation by Donald W. Beattie, > there, > April 28, 1985). > John Beattie married Isabelle McSwan (b. ca 1850, according to her > gravestone; d. Oct 5, 1937), known as Aunt Belle, according to their > family > friend and > a direct nephew of Belle, George Shadman of Waterlooo, NY, who has been a > great help/contact since I met him at a Beattie Family Reunion, in > Binghamton, > NY at my home in the early fall of 1981. Ruth Christman Swenson also > verified that Aunt Belle was her direct relative from Murial Beattie, > Ruth's mother > in a letter to me dated, February 13, 1997. > > There is a Belle Beattie who lived years ago on the corner of 6th and > Maple > Street, according to the Cameron County Historical Society (Edna H. > Bowser > to > Donald W. Beattie, September 9, 1980),"interred in Newton Cemetery, [but] > her grave is unmarked. > > The John Beattie, which follows for a couple of paragraphs is a bit of a > mystery to me, but only in the sense that records speak of a Sarah for a > wife, > when he died in 1896, and not an Isabelle. > > In looking at the Emporium, Pennsylvania Tombstone Inscriptions, copied > and > compiled by Cornelius E. Koppenheffer, 351 oward Cirlce, Emporium, > Pennsylvania, December 22, 1967, I saw this same Sarah, John Beattie and > Cora and LeRoy > Beattie listed as persons buried in Emporium. It was in a listing with > William and Elizabeth Beattie and Peter Randolph Beattie, Sr. and his > third > wife, Catherine W. (Kriner) Fetter. I believed, perhaps, that the > copier/compiler put Sarah rather than Isabelle (Belle) on the list. One > contrarian view > would be that John may have had a wife, Sarah, before he married Isabelle > McSwan. > Nonetheless, this is the John Beattie who married Isabelle McSwan > Beattie, > according to Isabelle's grand neice, Ruth Christman Swenson whose, mother > was > Murial Elizabeth Beattie, neice to John and Isabelle Beattie. Murial > went > to live with her Aunt Belle when her own mother, wife of William Beattie, > Elizabeth McDonald Beattie, died. Murial was age five at that time > according to > Ruth Christman Swenson, but other records show that Murial was just over > two > years of age. As a girl, in Emporium, Murial remembered sliding down > Beattie > Hill. It may have merely been an hill where/near the Beattie's lived. > (Ruth Swenson to Donald W. Beattie, January 29, 1997 and Ruth Swenson to > Donald > W. Beattie, February 11, 1997). > According to records of which I have seen copies from the Cameron County > Historical Society, there was a JOHN Beattie--sometimes known as Little > Jack (no > birth dates, but if he died in 1896 at age 46 or 49, as other CCHS > records > suggests; therefore, he could have been born as early as 1847) who died > on > 12/22, 1896, age 49, whose wife was Sarah ______. I found that his > parents, > John Beattie and Mary Ann Casey Beattie were married in 1846? Valerie > Tweedie > Bartlett shared this information with me from Deborah Hale's Kouchibuguac > Marriage List (03-07-02). So, even 1847 is a good date for this John's > birth. > This same CCHS record includes information about a daughter, Cora, who > died > 2/12/1881 (age, one year, ten months and two days, and a son, LeRoy > Beattie > (dates: 12/31/1887 - 4/26/1933, Pvt. 62nd. Trans. Corps. WW I, length > of > service, 2/5/1918 -- 8/5/1919. Buried near his parents in Emporium, PA, > his > gravestone says: Leroy W. Beattie, Pennsylvania Corpoal, d. April 25, > 1935. > (Source: Donald W. Beattie observation of his gravestone inscription, > April 28, > 1985). > These may be the Cora and Roy whom George Shadman speaks about in his > letter > to me in 1981, in which Shadman stated that LeRoy and Cora were children > of > John Beattie and Isabelle McSwan Beattie and that they had died young. > According to Edna H. Bower's "findings" sent to me on September 2, 1980, > "In > the 1850-60 census of Cameron County area, before Cameron County was > formed > in 1860 from Clinton, Elk, McKean, and Potter Counties, there is no one > listed with the surname of Beattie." Nonetheless, she sent some > fragments > of > households for Cameron County from the Cameron County Census of April 20, > 1880. > Her findings were these of my great grandfather Peter R. Beattie, age 50 > and > a wife, June L., age 46. Regarding John Beattie, age 31 and Wife Belle > age > 27, there were two children listed: Lindley E. age 7 (boy) and Cora A. > age > 3. > I've found in my researching, that ages change from one census to > another, > often. Lindley E. Beattie was born before Cora Beattie and Leroy > Beattie. > > Another account in the Cameron County Historical Society states that a > John > Beat[t]ie, male, age 46, married, born in Canada, a laborer, who died at > North Creek, Cameron County [PA], as a result of being crushed by logs > was > interred in Newton Cemetery, two days after he died on December 24, 1896 > (he > died > December 22, 1896); his death was recorded on March 10, 1897. This > probably > is the same person mentioned in the paragraph, above, in the CCHS > information, > I assume. > > Note: A Roy J. McSwan of Conneaut, Ohio, was a brother of Belle Beattie > and > the father of Mrs. Ray Shadman, all of Emporium, PA. Isabelle Beattie > died, > Tuesday, October 5, 1937 at 4:20 AM. At the petition of her son, Linley > [sic] (or perhaps, Lindley) E. Beattie, he had been appointed > administrator > of > her estate, with bond of surety filed with Max Balcom, Book G, page 329. > I'm > sure that George Shadman told me this; he knew it and has a record of it > being descended from Belle McSwan Beattie. George would be related to > the > Beattie Family, but only through his revered Aunt Belle's children. > George > Shadman > attended many Beattie reunions in and near Emporium (probably at > Sizerville > State Park) for years, he told me, in 1981 at the Reunion in Chenango > Bridge, > NY. > > Before I note their other children, I want to insert the story of John's > tragic death on December 22, 1896, taken from the Cameron County > Historical > Society microfilm files of the December 24, 1896 issue of The Cameron > County > Press. Compiled by Sandra Hornung. > > JACK BEATTIE KILLED > > On Tuesday afternoon, about five o'clock, our citizens were horror > stricken > when Frank Craven came to town with the information that Jack Beattie had > been killed, while breaking a log jam, on North Creek. > Mr. Beattie was employed as foreman for Frank Craven and in company with > the > gentleman and a crew of men were "splashing" logs out o North Creek. A > large number of logs had formed a "jam" below the Chandler homestead and > the > crew went to the place to remove the jam in order to do some cribbing. > Mr. > Craven and Mr. Beattie were standing to-gether [sic] when the splash came > on, and > the logs commenced to break up. Between them and the bank was a deep > hole, > into which Mr. Beattie jumped into the water up to his arm-pits [sic], in > his > efforts to get to the shore. Seeing that the logs were rapidly piling > over > him, he cried to Mr. Craven to hand him a pike-lever, which he did. Mr. > Craven pulled but poor Jack could not extricate himself from the rolling > logs, > which were then closing around and squeezing him, the blood flowing from > his > nose and mouth. The great mass of logs bore him under and rolled him > along > for > a distance of twenty feet and left him floating behind. Mr. Craven, who > was > watching for the body, jumped into the stream and carried him [Jack > Beattie] > to the shore. The water being too high and swift to ford, the balance of > the men were compelled to remain upon the opposite bank, leaving Mr. > Craven > along [sic] with the body. As soon as help could get across the stream > the > body > was carried to a neighboring house and Dr. Heilman was sent for; also Mr. > Craven to bear the sad intelligence to the poor wife and four small > children > [undoubtedly, LeRoy (Roy), Cora and William--perhaps Murial > Elizabeth--this > granddaughter was, perhaps, already living with John and Isabelle; see > above]. > Mr. Beattie, very evidently, was dead when taken from the water. > As soon as word was received here [Emporium], Mr. Peter Beattie [his > uncle > and Donald W. Beattie's Great Grandfather] hastened to the scene of the > accident with the grief stricken wife [Isabelle McSwain Beattie], hoping > for the > best. The remains were brought to Emporium, arriving here about 8 > o'clock > in > the evening. > Mr. John Beattie, who had been employed as foreman for Frank Craven ever > since that gentleman has been lumbering for Howard & Company here > [Emporium, > PA], has been a hard working industrious man and a quiet, peaceable > citizen. He > leaves a widow and five [sic] children to mourn his sad death - Lindley > Beattie, the eldest, being grown up and married. The death of Mr. > Beattie > has > cast a gloom over our town, where he has lived so many years and the > afflicted > family have the greatest sympathy of our citizens in their great > affliction. > The funeral will take place to-day [sic] (Thursday) from the family > residence, corner of Maple and sixth streets, at 2 p.m. Interment in > Newton Cemetery. > > John Beattie's and Isabelle McSwan Beattie's children (some of them). > > 1. LINDLEY OR LINLEY Beattie (b. ca. 1863). Considered John and Isabelle > Beattie's eldest son. I believed he lived in Buffalo, NY. Records at > the > Cameron County, PA Historical Society (Cameron County Census of April 20, > 1880), > state that LINLEY E. Beattie, was a son of John and Belle Beattie--a > white > male and a laborer who married Margaret Hetherman, both age 21, on > November > 2, > 1892, by a minister of the name of J. H. McAdams at St. Mark's parsonage > in > Emporium, PA. Linley [Beattie] was born in Clinton County, PA and > Margaret > was born in Franklin, PA; her parents were Martin and Catherine > Hetherman. > On September 2, 1980, I received an answer to my query about Beatties in > Cameron County, PA. Enclosed with the cover letter from Edna H. Bowser, > President of the Cameron County Historical Society, I received some > fragments of > information on the Beatties, thereabouts. Most of the paragraph, above, > comes > from that letter/citatons. > Another citation stated: "Leon J. Beattie, a male, father Lundley [sic] > Beattie, mother Maggie, parents reside Fourth Street. Emporium, PA, > father's > occupation brakeman, was born 13 May 1900 in Emporium." > Cora, who died 2/12/1881 and a son, LeRoy Beattie (dates: 12/31/1887 - > 4/26/1933; his gravestone says that he died, April 25, 1935), Pvt. 62nd. > Trans. > Corps. WW I, length of service, 2/5/1918 -- 8/5/1919. > Local folks in Emporium, even in 1980 remembered Leroy Beattie and > recalled > "that he had some connection with the Beattie Circus." (Edna H. Bowser > to > Donald W. Beattie, September 9, 1980). > > 2, CORA Beattie. Cora, died, young, in 2/12/1881. > > 3. LEROY Beattie. LeRoy Beattie (dates: 12/31/1887 - 4/26/1933; his > gravestone says that he died, April 25, 1935), Pvt. 62nd. Trans. Corps. > WW > I, > length of service, 2/5/1918 --8/5/191. Other sources say he was a > Corporal > when > he completed service in the Army. > > 4. GORDON Beattie (b. February 11, 1890; d. February 23, 1974). Father > of > Donald Herbert Beattie. > > Who were the other children of John and Isabelle (Belle) McSwan Beattie? > Gordon William Beattie was one son. He was the father of Donald Herbert > Beattie. I believe that John and Mary Beattie's son, William, was > Murial's > father, > and that Ruth Christman Swenson should have said that her mother, Murial, > went to live with Aunt Belle when Murial's mother died when Murial was > age > five. > That would make Aunt Bell Beattie, wife of John Beattie (son of John and > Mary Ann Casey Beattie) Murial's aunt rather than her grandmother. > For clarity and my sanity, I believe that this William, which follows, is > the son of John Beattie and Mary Ann Casey Beattie and that this William > is > a > brother to their son, John Beattie who died in the log jam in 1896. > ----------- > Our Beatties came > from "Se Dumfries shire" to Kouchibouguac, Carleton Parish, Kent County, > NB, > Canada in 1829 and fanned out from there especially to Maine, PA and NY. > Also Detroit, Michigan where Donald Herbert Beattie was born. > Donald W. Beattie > WILLIAM H. Beattie (probable dates: b. 4/8, 1852; d. 1914). Son of John > Beattie (ca 1818-1910) and Mary Ann Casey. Undoubtedly, William was born > at > Kouchibouguac, Carleton Parish, Kent County [at one time, Northumberland, > CO), NB, Canada. > William was 20 during the Census of 1871 and living in Kent County. The > 1881 Census for Carleton Parish, Kent County Census Records states the > following about a William and Elizabeth Beattie: William Beattie age 30, > born in NB, Presbyterian, Scott heritage, Laborer; Elizabeth age 29, born > NB, Presbyterian, Irish heritage; Children included: Mary 4; Frederick 2 > and James one month. This could be the same William Beattie with the > dates > noted above and family members, below. I found this "duplicate" as well: > William Beattie, b. NB, age 30; Elizabeth, b. NB, age 29; Children: Mary, > 14 [sic]; Frederick, age 2 and James, one half month (1/2 month).His first > wife was Elizabeth (Lizzie) McDonald (1853 - 1894). William and Elizabeth > Beattie were married on August 9, 1876. William and Elizabeth were both > from Carleton Parish, Kent CO, but apparently married in Richibucto; their > minister was not noted in this marriage compilation. Their witnesses > were: > Charles Little and Maggie Beattie. This is substantiated in the KENT > COUNTY > MARRIAGE REGISTER, VOLUME II (1861-1881), P. 150 Compiled/Edited by Helen > P. > Brooks in 1995. Elizabeth is buried with her husband, William H. Beattie > at > Emporium, Pennsylvania. I have seen that gravesite/stone in the Newton > Protestant Cemetery, Shippen Tsp., Emporium, PA. It is located quite near > the front/left, entering the cemetery, whereas Peter Randolph Beattie's > gravsesite, in the same cemetery is located much further into the cemetery > and to the right/back of it. This is the much larger cemetery, of the two > that I know about, in Emporium (both are on different hills a mile apart, > at > least). This is the so-called Protestant Cemetery. > The Wily Cemetery has only about 100 gravesides (most, not marked), > whereas, > Newton Cemetery, the larger of the two covers approximately 50 acres or > more > and most graves seem to be marked. > WILLIAM H. and Elizabeth Beattie were both born in Kouchibouguac, NB, > Canada. There is a notation in Paul Beattie's "genealogy" that a William > Beattie went to St. Stephen's, NB, across from Calais, ME (border crossing > there--this would be his closest to Maine/USA from Kouchibouguac; > approximately 190 miles, nowadays) in 1879. That may have been to visit or > to get documentation from the Custom Office, there. Or, perhaps William > and > Elizabeth lived there for a time after they were married. William, as did > my great grandfather Peter R. Beattie, Sr., may have gone to PA, > nonetheless, on the Canadian-Pacific Railroad--perhaps from St. Stephen's > or > from Fredericton, NB, Canada. William was naturalized in the USA in 1891. > He was a lumberman as was his uncle, my grandfather, in Emporium. His > wife, > Elizabeth, was an housewife. > William's second wife was, purportedly, Anne Bruner or Anne Brunner. They > evidently lived in Laquin, PA rather than in Emporium, PA, whereas William > and Elizabeth had several if not all of their children. > DB > ---------------------------- > Donna L-3 > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you. I was looking at this John Sr and John Jr. on the 1851 Ancestry index since John said he was born in cir 1849 in Nova Scotia. Probably lots of others, though. Did not realize the census didn't give names. Will have to wait for 1861 to become available. Donna L-3 Hi Donna, I do have World Ancestry. The 1851 Census for Canada is similar to the 1840 Census of US--the 1st 5 questions have to do with the # of buildings then the questions are # males under 10, # females under 10, etc.. Here are the inhabitants: John Beattie Sr. (indexed Jr. by Ancestry but I read this as Sr.): 1 female under 10; 1 male 10-20; 1 female 30-40; 1 male over 50; 1 female over 50 John Beattie, Jr.: (4 families in 1 dwelling) 2 males under 10; 1 female under 10; 1 male 10-20; 1 female 10-20; 1 male 30-40; 1 female 30-40 [The 1st 5 questions are # inhabited house; by how many families?; # houses being built; # of uninhabited houses; # outhouses or barns]--my guess is Mardi's links give the numerical answers to the questions. Laurel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mardi Carlson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L-510 Canadian census look-up? There is a 1851 and 1861(don't know if it is online) Census for Canada. I have only the 1851 census for Kings County and St John County in New Brunswick. It is online but have to search individual census sheets for certain area's.. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1851/index-e.html http://webhome.idirect.com/~cpwalsh/nb/censusacts.htm These should help you find what you are looking for. Mardi