I truly don't want to step on any toes with this. First a little history about how I became obsessed with L-9. Many years ago (we are talking eons here) my sister and I came to realize that L-185 Wm Alexander Beatty was probably the son of L-3 John. It was totally frustrating to find he had been named as the "unnamed" son of L-9 in DAR records. Probably the unnamed child had died at or shortly after birth. I doubt Sarah forgot the name of her child. He was just not named because he had died very very young. So in order to prove Wm was the son of John of L-3 we had to first disprove he was the son of L-9 John. Posted 2002 (below) -------------------------- Several of the descendants of William Alexander Beatty of L-185 have joined the DAR saying he is the son of John Beaty and Sarah Whaley Beaty of L-9. I would like to prove he is not their son. First using common sense, William Alexander Beatty per census and family ledger was born in 1811 in Harrison county, West Virginia. John Beaty of L-9 married the widow of his brother George Beatty in 1801 in Montgomery Co., KY. In 1819 he filed for a revolutionary war pension in Montgomery County, KY. His widow Sarah filed for pension on her first husband George Beatty and listed all her children with George and John Beatty. None was a William Beatty. The last child was listed as unnamed but normally this is an unnamed child who died at birth. The following is the will of John Beatty of L-9. He names all his children with both his wives. Again there is no William Beatty. William Beatty of L-185 at the time of this will was alive and well in Ohio. He had married in 1832 in Meigs co., OH and in 1840 was on the census in Athens co., OH. I think we have sufficient proof to say he was not the son of John Beatty of L-9. I would like to remove him from the L-9 file. Now to prove he was the son of John Beatty of L-3. Donna L-3 Microfilm # 0252361 Montgomery County, Kentucky Wills Book E page 45 (L-9) In the name of God, Amen. I, John Beatty of Montgomery County and state of Kentucky being weak in body, considering the uncertainty of this mortal life but being of sound mind and perfect memory. Blessed be Almighty God for the same do make and publish this my last will and testament in the manner and form following, that is to say, first I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Sarah Beaty the farm whereon I now live including about one hundred acres with all the appurtenances thereinto belonging and also my two Negroes, one woman named Juner and one boy named Squire together with all my personal estate, household and kitchen furniture to have and to hold for her use and benefit during her natural life, except such things as shall be hereafter named. And secondly to my beloved children which I had by my first wife, to wit: Patsy Adams, Joseph Beaty, Polly Moore, and whereas I have heretofore given to each of them as they married and left me so much of my estate as I think will be their proportionable part, I give unto each of them as first above named one dollar. And thirdly, unto each of my beloved children which I had by my last wife I give and bequeath unto each of them. First unto my son Daniel Beaty, George Beaty, Elizabeth Conley and Cyrene Beaty it is my wish and desire and agreeable to the will each of the four as last named shall have an equal part of all my estate which shall remain at the death of my beloved wife Sarah Beaty, except one bay mare and yearling calf, one cow and calf and two beds and furniture I give and bequeath unto my daughter Cyrene Beaty. Fourthly, I give and bequeath unto Robert Beaty, the son of George Beaty, deceased, one sorrell mare and colt. Also after the death of his mother, which is now my wife Sarah Beaty, he, the said Robert is to have the above named Negro boy named Squire. And if in case the aforesaid Negro boy, Squire, should not come into the possession of said Robert being prevented by death or otherwise, then and in that case he is to have one equal and proportionable part of the land and other property as spoken of at the death of my wife, as above, that is with Daniel and George Beaty, Elizabeth Conley and Cyrene Beaty and not otherwise. And lastly, I declare this to be my last will and testament revoking all former wills by me made. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this eighteenth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two. John Beatty {seal} Signed, sealed and published and delivered by the above named John Beatty to be his last will and testament in the presents of us who have hereunto subscribed each of our names on the day first above written. William Kelso William Yocum State of Kentucky Montgomery County, Sct August Court 1839 A writing purporting to be the last Will and Testament of John Beatty, dec'd was this day produced in open court and proven by the oath of William Kelso, a witness thereto, subscribed to be his act and deed and ordered to be filed. Attest: James Howard, Clk ----------------------------- From: "Faith Van Schaik" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [BP2000] George & Sarah Beatty; John & Sarah Beatty Revolutionary Pension File Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:13 AM VA, Beatty, George & Sarah; This woman married two brothers George was her first husband. Her second husband John Beatty was a Rev. War Pensioner, see his claim within. # W. 2909 Kentucky; John Beatty of Montgomery Co in state of Kentucky who was a private in the com commanded by Captain Bucors? Of reg. Commanded by Col. Hecath? In the Virginia line for 1year Inscribed on the roll of Kentucky at the rate of 40 dollars ___ cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831 Certificate of Pension issued the 6 day of Dec 1833 and Hean? Arno? Davis Arrears to the 4th of Sept 100.00; Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 March 20.00 (totaling)120.00 (Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832) Recorded by Dan Boyd Clerk; Book E vol. 7 page 20 3939 Kentucky; Sarah Beatty former widow of George Beatty also widow John Beatty-Revy soldier who served in the Revolutionary War as a Private, Virginia Line; Inscribed on the roll at the rate of 40 dollars __ cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1848; Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Feb 49 and sent to Heon Richard Hrende? ?? ?? ??; Recorded on roll of Pensioners under act February 2, 1848 page 220 Vol 3; Rep??ted, Let to Hon I C Ma?? 3 Apr 1852, ? R. county 11 May 53 State of Kentucky, Montgomery County; On this first day of October 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Justice of the Montgomery county court now sitting John Beatty a resident of Kentucky in the county of Montgomery aged 75 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following statement in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. He states that he has been previously on the pension roll under the act of Congress of March 18 1818 and that he had received on half years salary and that his pension was discontinued under the act of May 1820 in consequence of his not furnishing a schedule agreeable to the terms of the last recited act. He resided in the state and county aforesaid when he made his first application at which place he now resides. He states that in the year 1778 he entered the service of his country in the Revolutionary war as a private in the regular service in Capt. Biscows company in the 3rd Virginia regiment commanded by Col. Heath stationed at Valley Forge and continued in the regular service for the term of 12 months at the end of which time he received a discharge for farther particulars he refers to his former declaration made in pursuance of the act of 1818 now filed in the war office department. In addition to that declaration he states that he performed a tour of two months as a sergeant in the militia service in Capt Hancocks company and Col George Wests regiment of Virginia militia that the said tour was ended about the time that Corn Wallace surrendered to the American Army and that he was at the siege of York on the Glosster side in cannon shot. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not at this time on the pension roll of the agency of any state. (signed)John Beatty; sworn and subscribed and sealed by M Harrison clerk 9731 Sarah Beatty; Ky; act 7 July 38; m 86 d 99 -01- 39; on roll 3rd regt Capt Briscoe 12 mo pri $40; (signed)Hon RM Johnson, present Declaration; In order to obtain the benefits of the act of Congress on the 7 July 1838 and the 23 August 1842; State of Kentucky, county of Montgomery; On this eighteenth day of October eight hundred and forty three personally appeared before the Magistrate court of the county of Montgomery and state of Kentucky, Sarah Beaty a resident of the county and state above written, aged seventy four years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath made the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the acts of Congress passed July 7, 1838 and the 23 of August 1842; granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War in the continental line from the county of Lowden and state of Virginia, she states that she has heard her husband George Beaty say that he enlisted for one year in the war of the Revolution she is unable to tell the Captains name and the regiment he served in but she well recollects hearing her husband say that he enlisted at the same time and under the same officers that John Beaty enlisted under and heard them say that they were in the same mess? after the death of George Beaty she married John Beaty, brother of my first husband, who drew his pension and proved his service by Matthew Adams. She further she further states that she has heard her last husband and Matthew Adams frequently say that her first husband was in the same company and the same mess? With John Beaty her last husband who drew a pension of forty dollars per year. The above named Matthew Adams is dead she refers to the evidence that give John Beaty his pension prays that be taken as she dose not know of any person that is living that knows of his service. She states that her husband George Beaty had a discharge but it has got lost, she has heard him say that he had a verry sevies? Spell of sickness whilest he was in the service which impaired his health so that he was not a healthy man after it. She knows that he did not enjoy good health after she became acquainted with him, she says that he said he was healthy when he enlisted form the exposure? in the army. He said he never recovered from the sickness he had in the army. The past of a leaf is the record of my children that I had by my first husband, the youngest one that I had when I was married to him is not down owing the the dea?? the of his father when he was small. The record is in my first husbands hand write the leaf from the new testament is the record of my children that I had when I was married to my last husband John Beaty. She also declares that she was married to the said George Beaty the fifth of February seventeen hundred and eighty six, that her husband the aforesaid George Beaty died on the latter part of October on the first of November seventeen hundred and ninety nine in was married in the county of Lowden state of Virginia his death took place in the county of Montgomery state of Kentucky. She further declares that after the death of the husband aforesaid she was married to John Beaty on the sixteenth of July eighteen hundred and one in the county of Montgomery state of Kentucky, that he died on the nineth day of June eighteen hundred and thirty nine in the county of Montgomery, Kentucky and that she is still a widow. (signed) Sary Beatey; sworn and certified by John Berry I William Wensley a resident of the county of Montgomery and state of Kentucky aged seventy years state that the year seventeen hundred ninety eight I became acquainted with George Batey and his wife Sarah and recollect that he died in the year seventeen hundred and ninety nine, she then married John Baty in the year eighteen hundred and one and lived with him until his death which took place in eighteen hundred and thirty nine. I know that she is the same woman that was living with George Beaty when he died. I knew her children. I believe ?? ?? the ages set forth on the family record which I believe is a genuine family record of her family. I have frequently heard John Beaty and Matthew Adams say that George Beaty was in the war of the revolution and had a sever attack of sickness while he was in the army. I have examined the declaration and believe it contains the truth. I Matthew Adams aged fifty four years and a resident of the above written county and state, state that I have frequently heard my father Matthew Adams and John Beaty say that George Beaty was in the war of the Revolution and served as stated by her declaration. I believe the family record is a genuine family record and I have examined the declaration and believe it contains the truth. (signed) Mathew Adams; sworn and certified by William Herhey The above sworn and certified and sealed by John Berry The above sworn and certified and sealed by Lance H??and (Bible leaf) The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, translated out of the original greek and with the former translations diligently compared and revised; Hartford; printed by Hudson and co. 1821 (Bible Leaf)Daniel Beatty was born July the 11th 1802; George Beatty was born December the 1st, 1803; Elizabeth Beatty was born May the 26th 1806; Cy?am? Beatty was born December the 23, 1807?; Sally Adams was born the 30th day of March 1826; Squire was born the 19th of October 1818 (Bible Leaf; extremely faded) ??? Beatty ????; James Ba?ty ha??? ???n February 1782?; ?illy Beaty han? Born? April? 179?; ? A? Robearte Beaty was born Sept 6, 1793 John Beatty; Montgomery Co, Ken; k m; the within applicant relinquishes claim only for 1 year service; a claim for John Beatty A statement shewing the service of John Beatty: period when the service was rendered: 1778; year: 1; rank of the claimant: pr; names and rank of the field officers under whom he served: Col Heath; age at present: 75 VA; proof by which the declaration is supported: on roll period when the service was rendered: 1781; months: 2; rank of the claimant: sergt; names and rank of the field officers under whom he served: Col Hancock, Col West (certified by)James Edwards ?? March 22, 1861; Commis Pensions Dear Sir: Mrs Sarah Beaty ?? year ago was an applicant for Bounty land. It is not know to the family whether or not their a warrant ever issued. It is believed that a warrant did issue and that it fell into the hands of an unscrupulous individual who appropriated it on its proceeds to his own use. She was the widow of George & John Beaty who were both soldiers of the revolution. I wont to know if a warrant ever issued & if it and to whom was it sent. If no warrant ever issued be kind enough to give me reason of the suspicion of the claim. Mrs Beaty was a resident of Montgomery county, Ky- is now dead and her children think there is a wrong some where and intend to ?? try an the matter. Can warrant ?? now under the act she being read? Of her children being menon? The application having been made by her prior to her death. Respectfully yours, L? Gist? Copied from AW; Mrs. Anna M. Searcy, 204 Second Avenue, Leavenworth, Kansas; January 20, 1932 Dear Madam: Reference is made to your letter of recent date, relative to John Beatty, a soldier of the Revolutionary War. The data which follow are obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 2909 of Sarah Beatty of which it is shown that John Beatty enlisted in Loudoun County, Virginia, in 1778, and served as a private for one year under Captains Briscoe and John Peyton in Colonel Heth' s 3rd Virginia Regiment. His brother George Beatty, enlisted from Loudoun County for one year at the same time with him but no further details are given relative to George's service. John also served two months as sergeant in Captain Hancock's company, colonel George West's regiment of Virginia militia and during this time was stationed on the Gloucester side at the siege of York. George Beatty married Sarah ___. In Loudoun County Virginia, February 5, 1786 and he died in Montgomery County, Kentucky, November 1798 or 1799. George and Sarah Beatty had the following children: Thomas born November 24, 178?; James born February 5, 1788; Milly born April 12, 1791; Robearte born September 6, 1793; Andrew born February 12, 1796; one other the youngest, whose name and date of birth are not stated. Said Sarah married her brother in law, John Beatty in Montgomery County, Kentucky, July 16, 1801. He died in said county June 9, 1839. John and Sarah Beatty had the following children: Daniel born July 11, 1802; George born December 1, 1803; Elizabeth born May 26, 1806; Cyrene born December 23, 1808 John Beatty was allowed pension on an application executed September 11, 1819, while a resident of Montgomery County, Kentucky, aged sixty three years. Sarah Beatty was allowed pension as the widow of George, on her application executed October 18, 1843, which a resident of Montgomery County, Kentucky, aged seventy four years. Very truly yours, AD Hiller; Assistant to Administator Kentucky; John Beatty of Montgomery Co in the state of Ky who was a private in the regiment commanded by Colonel Heath of the Virginia ? for the term of 1 year; Inscribed on the roll of Kentucky at the rate of eight dollars per month to commence the 11 of Sept 1818; Certificate of Pension issued the 6 of nov 1818 and ent ot E Shortridge, Equ; Morent Sterling, KY Portion of Semi-anl all'ce ending 4 March 1820 46.36 (Revolutionary Claim Act 18 March, 1818) Kentucky; Sarah Beatty former widow of George Beatty who died in 1798 or 1799, also former widow of John Beatty who was a pensioner under the act of and who died on the 9 June 1839 of Montgomery Co.in the state of Kentucky who was a private in the company commanded by Captiani Brescoe of the regt commanded by __ in the Virginia line for 1 year Inscribed on the roll of Kentucky at the rate of 40 dollars __ cents per annum to commence on the 4 day of March 1836. Certificate of Pension issued the 16 day of November 1843 and sent to Hom R M Johnson, present Total amount, $200.-(Act July 7, 1838) recorded by D Brown clerk, Book D, Vol 1, page 363 Kentucky; Sarah Beatty widow of George Beatty who was a private in the Revolution Inscribed on the roll at the rate of 40 dollars -cents per annum, to commence on the 4 day of March 1843 Certificate of Pension issued the 1 day of February 1844 and sent to L C Suggett Long Lick, Ken (act of March 3, 1843) recorded in Book A, vol 1, page 166 Declaration of Sarah Beaty; State of Kentucky, Montgomery County: On this first ?? day of January in the year eighteen hundred and forty nine personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the aforesaid county and state Sarah Beaty a resident of said county of Montgomery and state of Kentucky aged (about) eighty years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress passed on the 2 day of February 1848 granting to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War ?? pursuant that she intermcimed? In the year with one George Beatty in the state of Virginia and county of Loudon and continued to live with him as his wife until his death occurred about the year of 1798 or 1799 that after being and ??? a widow into near time she intermarried with John Beatty the brother of her said first husband in the year 1801 in the said county of Montgomery and state of Kentucky that she continued to remain the wife of the said John Beatty during his natural life and up to the day of his death which was in the month of June 1839 and in the said county and state that ?? his death she has been and remained and is still a widow. She further states that both of her said husbands were soldiers in the American service, who served during the Revolutionary War. Her first husband George Beaty was a private soldier, and her second husband John Beaty was a sargeant as she has often ??? ?? ?? though she has no positive knowledge of the subject afirthus? Than that. She has heard said John Beaty say that he served and belonged in the third Virginia Regiment for the space of twelve months and was then ??? discharged, that he was drafted into the regular service in the year 1777 or 1778 in Loudon county Virginia belonged to the company commanded by John Peyton which was attached to said? regiment and said regiment was ?? and ? by a Colonel Heath that he joined the army at Vally Forge in Pensylvania & after serving said tour of twelve months he was finally discharged at a place called Middlebrook in the state of New Jersey that when he first joined the army at Valley Forge he was attached to Captain Bixos company but remain therein ?? a short time until he was attached to Captain Peyton's company. She has no knowledge ?? often branch after service to which her first husband George Beatty belonged. She has entirely forgotten and cannot now state the company or regiment with names of the officers by ?? the said was commanded. She furthermore declares and says that the said George Beaty her first husband never received any pension from the general? Or any state government or from any other service or any compensation ?? of any kind for his said service so far as She ever knew or claimed? That her second husband the said John Beaty received a pension ??? his death of Forty dollars per annum, this pension was allowed him she think in the year 1832 and he determined to ?? the sum so being then after as he lived. She furthermore states that previous ?? time that the seid John Beaty had drawn a pension of ninety six dollars per annum from government and she thinks ?? and act of Congress of 1818. She does not remember the year in which he first receive the sum or how many years he drew altogether. She also further declares & says that after her said husbands death she made a declaration which was f??? or caused to be ??? with after D???? to the city of Washington, under ?? ??? of which she obtained from government a pension of forty dollars per annum and this she supposes was under the act of Congress of April 1838 that she ??? pension for eight years and that the sum from ?? or other ??? to her was stopped or withheld from her during the last spring so that she has received nothing in the shape of a pension during the present year. She ?? ?eard h? to report her pension declaration ?then proofs and documents accompanying the same as ?? as the declaration proofs and documents in the case of her husband the said John Beaty & makes then a part of this declaration the said papers as she is advised being filed with the archives of the pension office of the general government. She also makes such proofs, affidavits and certificates as may be appeared hereto a part of the her declaration so far as the Lermd? Comparts with the statements herein contained.(signed) Sarah Beaty Sworn to and subscribed by John Berry A certifying that John Berry is the Justice of the Peace. (signed) James Horman? clk Mlrterling? May 2, 1853; Commisioner of Pensions; Washington City Sir: Mrs. Sarah Beaty an old lady of this county is on the pension list at the rate of forty dollars per annum as the widow of George Beaty decd? Her first husband was George Beaty but he dying she afterwards intermarried with John Beaty who also died in 1839. Since that time she has remained a widow. Her pension is under the act of February 2, 1848. There seems to be some doubt as to whether the pension was not wrongfully allowed she having again married. If so she desires to return her certificate otherwise the money would be very welcome to her in old age and poverty. Very respectfully Rodney Comles? Nov. 23 1931; Pension Department; Washington DC Dear Sirs, Will you please send me the revolutionary war records of John and Edwin(or Edward) Beatty of Virginia? I will appreciate it very much. Very Truly, Anna M. Searey Veterans Administration; Washington DC Dear Sirs; I know the records are in the pension department for the service of John Beatty for my mother in law got them from there and I saw them but since her death we cannot find them among her papers. The records as sent as sent her from the pension department said John Beatty was at the battle of York, told that he enlisted in Virginia, went to Kentucky following the close of the war and told of his marriage at Mt Sterling Kentucky to his brother's widow and of the birth of his children, naming each among them my husbands grandfather George Beatty. I do not know the county in Virginia from which he enlisted nor do I know his wife's first name. My mother in law used to go with her grandmother to Mt Sterling to get her pension. Perhaps ?? little ? know ?? help ???. We appreciate your help greatly. (signed) Anna M. Searey Veterans Administration; Washington DC; December 18, 1931 Mrs. James Arthur Searcy; 204 Second Avenue; Leavenworth, Kansas Dear Madam; Reference is made to your letter of November 23, 1931, requesting information relative to John and Edwin or Edward Beatty, soldiers of the Revolutionary War. Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims made to the United States for pension and bounty land based upon military service of soldiers in that war. A careful search of the record fails to show such claims on file on account of the services of any Edwin Beatty or of an Edward Beatty who served from Virginia (searched under all spellings of the surname) The data given by you are not sufficient to enable this office to make a proper search of the records for John Beatty. As a means of identifying the particular John Beatty in whom you are interested, should his record be on file; you should furnish as much as possible of the following data; approximate dates of birth and eath, places of residence at enlistment and after service and given name of widow . please return these letters with your reply. Very truly yours AD Hiller, Assistant to Administrator (transcribed by Faith Van Schaik L6) KENTUCKY PENSION ROLL OF 1835 DANIEL BEATTY MONTGOMERY COUNTY PRIVATE NORTH CAROLINA LINE $80.00 ANNUAL ALLOWANCE $240.00 AMOUNT RECEIVED DECEMBER 28, 1833 PENSION STARTED AGE 76 JOHN BEATTY MONTGOMERY COUNTY PRIVATE VIRGINIA MILITIA $96.00 ANNUAL ALLOWANCE $382.14 AMOUNT RECEIVED NOVEMBER 6, 1819 PENSION STARTED SUSPENDED MAY 1, 1820 RESTORED JUNE 7, 1832 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 1830 Montgomery co., KY John Beatty, Sr. pg. 43 2 m 20-30 1 m 70-80 1 f 20-30 1 f 60-70 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Walker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Teresa's L9 & Andrew Beaty

Donna, thanks for all your fine research. I believe you must be right on the Montgomery Co., Missouri Beatys of 1830. Now we still have to contend with the Andrew in Saline Co. We'll just have to keep on huntin', won't we? With the name Andrew being so popular in the Beaty/Beatty/Batey, etc. clan, we will probably always be mixing them up. The name Andrew is so definitely Scottish that it will be interesting to see where they finally show up in Scotland. Again, thanks. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Teresa's L9 & Andrew Beaty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Teresa Walker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:08 PM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Teresa's L9 & Andrew Beaty > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >