Yes, Marlene, I agree that our MRCA may have been across the pond. It looks like my brother David C, Donor L1, Donor L3 and your brother John T. have the best chances of having a MRCA who either stayed in the old country, or possibly was a first generation emigrant. Like I said, I'm not the sharpest tack in the box on these DNA readings. I do hope that DNA testings will eventually clear up some of our questions, such as how did L1 and L3 come to have such a close DNA match to the L2 sublineages, when the migratory patterns are so different. By the way, in your own lineage, where do the "old folks" (grandparents, etc) say that you came to America from? I know mine claim Ireland more than any other, but some say we are "Scotch-Irish." Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > Willie, > > L2D , ID31 is my brother John T. > Reading and taking notes all morning from the DNA group mailing list and > the > L2D test results. Don't know if I have a better understanding ....or > Not.... > On the 25 marker test there are exact matches to L2B,-2E & 2F....also > matches to L1, L3, L133, L438 and L39.. > At 67 markers the L2F and L1 were closest to L2D. - one step further > removed were L2B, L3, and L428 (of course not all donors have gone on to a > "67" test) > >>From the tables showing the probability of two testees sharing a common > ancestor..some interesting figures: > Between L2D and L2B (Billy Beaty/ father of Alexander & Andrew) > Probability of common ancestor within: > 8 generations 63.06% > 12 generations 87.95% > 20 " " 99.24 > Doesn't look like a strong result for Wm. Beaty (KY>Saline MO) and > Alexander > /Andrew to be brothers. > > L2D and L2F -Probabilites of common ancestor: > 8 generation 94.43% > 12 generations 99.12% > 20 " " 99.98% > > L2D and L1 > in 8 generations 95.27% > 12 " " 99.32% > 20 "" 99.99% > > L2D and L3 > in 8 generations 65,37% > 12 " " 89.34% > 20 " " 99.41% > > What do you make of this? Sometimes I think the MRCA might have been > 'across the pond' in Ireland or Scotland. Most puzzling is the L1 > closeness.... > > Marlene > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willie R. Beaty" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > > >> Marlene, >> >> I'm not sharp in drawing conclusions from the DNA results, though I am >> very >> interested in discovering more specifically how these results might >> confirm >> or deny any of our paper trail information. I believe that I >> communicated >> with your L2D DNA donor, ID 31 after the results revealed a very close >> match >> GD at 37 markers with my brother, ID 55. Of what relation is this person >> to >> you? My most distant known ancestor was James, 1752/53 who settled in >> Cumberland Co KY around 1799 and removed to Rutherford Co TN bet >> 1821-1822. > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >