Wondering if any members from L2 group (A,B,C,D,E, F) have drawn any conclusions or thoughts about the results of DNA testing of Lines 2B 2C, 2D, 2E & 2 F. I am of the L2D--ID 31 on the charts results. On the 25 marker tests...L2D shows an exact match to 13 Beaty, Beatty,etc. and on the 67 markers results, - a genetic distance of (-1) to a L2F(ID55) and an L1 (ID94). On 67 markers a G.D. of (-2)to 4 persons inc. a L2B (1D19) and a L3 (ID 1)..have not identified the Lineage numbers on most of the testees - tho I have the names. L2D progenitor, William Beaty , - seems to have arrived in the Fentress -Clinton Co. KY area at about the same time as other Beatys (before 1800) and settled in Clinton Co. near Alexander, James, Andrew. In 1827/28 , Williams and family moved to Saline Co. MO, as did one of Alexander's sons. The relation of L2D to others of the area would be 7 generations removed and I guess that is where the 'brick wall' is. Interpreting the test results have surpassed my feeble brains...just wondering if anyone else , has any thoughts.. Marlene Beaty L2D (formerly L2C)

Marlene, You might want to post your message on GenMatch, too. Some of the members of GenMatch are not members of BP-2000 (on the BP-2000 list). I am convinced there is an explanation lying in wait. Les

Marlene, I wish I understood what you just wrote, no criticism of your ability to express--just my ignorance on the subject. : ) So I'll ask questions. You said you are ID 31 on the charts results. Does that mean you took the test? I thought only guys took the tests. Does a genetic distance of (-1) and (-2) indicate a close kinship? It would be interesting to see what results someone such as myself (having L2B,E & F ancestors) would get. Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene" <[email protected]> To: "BP2000 List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > Wondering if any members from L2 group (A,B,C,D,E, F) have drawn any > conclusions or thoughts about the results of DNA testing of Lines 2B 2C, > 2D, 2E & 2 F. > > I am of the L2D--ID 31 on the charts results. > On the 25 marker tests...L2D shows an exact match to 13 Beaty, Beatty,etc. > and on the 67 markers results, - a genetic distance of (-1) to a > L2F(ID55) and an L1 (ID94). > On 67 markers a G.D. of (-2)to 4 persons inc. a L2B (1D19) and a L3 (ID > 1)..have not > identified the Lineage numbers on most of the testees - tho I have the > names. > L2D progenitor, William Beaty , - seems to have arrived in the > Fentress -Clinton Co. KY area at about the same time as other Beatys > (before 1800) and settled in Clinton Co. near Alexander, James, Andrew. > In 1827/28 , Williams and family moved to Saline Co. MO, as did one of > Alexander's sons. The relation of L2D to others of the area would be 7 > generations removed and I guess that is where the 'brick wall' is. > > Interpreting the test results have surpassed my feeble brains...just > wondering if anyone else , has any thoughts.. > > Marlene Beaty L2D (formerly L2C) > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Gerri, My brother (in his sixties) took the test. Since he and I would be 7 generations removed from the Fentress/Clinton Co. groups, ...I guess there would not be any "close Kinships"...but somewhere in the mix...there has to be a common ancestor. Forgot to mention...William Beaty of Clinton Co. KY/ to Saline Co., Mo. was reported to have been born in Pa. c. 1764 Marlene

Marlene, I'm not sharp in drawing conclusions from the DNA results, though I am very interested in discovering more specifically how these results might confirm or deny any of our paper trail information. I believe that I communicated with your L2D DNA donor, ID 31 after the results revealed a very close match GD at 37 markers with my brother, ID 55. Of what relation is this person to you? My most distant known ancestor was James, 1752/53 who settled in Cumberland Co KY around 1799 and removed to Rutherford Co TN bet 1821-1822. He was RW soldier and we have obtained much of our information from his pension application, in addition to land acquisitions in Cumberland Co KY and Rutherford Co TN, and his will made Rutherford Co TN in March 1835. We have never been able to absolutely identify any of the names of James' children, though the 1810 Cumberland Co KY census credits him with three dependent males and four dependent females between the ages 1-25. I definitely believe that James and the William who migrated to Saline Co MO were very close kin, perhaps brothers. Whether they were brothers to Alexander and Andrew, I'm not prepared to say yet. The other interesting very close DNA match is with L2E. This lineage includes three Beaty brothers who settled over in Overton (later Fentress) Co TN. They were John, David and George, born bet. 1780-1785. We have DNA results on several descendants of all three of these men. All are quite close, but we are especially close to John. Therefore, DNA would indicate that we are closely related to these men (two of the three have been proven brothers by documentary reference). Because all three have birthdates 1780-85, I have always wondered if James 1752/53 could not have been their father, but I have no proof. I would appreciate any affirmative or contrary thoughts that you or anyone on the list have on what I have said. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene" <[email protected]> To: "BP2000 List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > Wondering if any members from L2 group (A,B,C,D,E, F) have drawn any > conclusions or thoughts about the results of DNA testing of Lines 2B 2C, > 2D, 2E & 2 F. > > I am of the L2D--ID 31 on the charts results. > On the 25 marker tests...L2D shows an exact match to 13 Beaty, Beatty,etc. > and on the 67 markers results, - a genetic distance of (-1) to a > L2F(ID55) and an L1 (ID94). > On 67 markers a G.D. of (-2)to 4 persons inc. a L2B (1D19) and a L3 (ID > 1)..have not > identified the Lineage numbers on most of the testees - tho I have the > names. > L2D progenitor, William Beaty , - seems to have arrived in the > Fentress -Clinton Co. KY area at about the same time as other Beatys > (before 1800) and settled in Clinton Co. near Alexander, James, Andrew. > In 1827/28 , Williams and family moved to Saline Co. MO, as did one of > Alexander's sons. The relation of L2D to others of the area would be 7 > generations removed and I guess that is where the 'brick wall' is. > > Interpreting the test results have surpassed my feeble brains...just > wondering if anyone else , has any thoughts.. > > Marlene Beaty L2D (formerly L2C) > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Willie, L2D , ID31 is my brother John T. Reading and taking notes all morning from the DNA group mailing list and the L2D test results. Don't know if I have a better understanding ....or Not.... On the 25 marker test there are exact matches to L2B,-2E & 2F....also matches to L1, L3, L133, L438 and L39.. At 67 markers the L2F and L1 were closest to L2D. - one step further removed were L2B, L3, and L428 (of course not all donors have gone on to a "67" test) >From the tables showing the probability of two testees sharing a common ancestor..some interesting figures: Between L2D and L2B (Billy Beaty/ father of Alexander & Andrew) Probability of common ancestor within: 8 generations 63.06% 12 generations 87.95% 20 " " 99.24 Doesn't look like a strong result for Wm. Beaty (KY>Saline MO) and Alexander /Andrew to be brothers. L2D and L2F -Probabilites of common ancestor: 8 generation 94.43% 12 generations 99.12% 20 " " 99.98% L2D and L1 in 8 generations 95.27% 12 " " 99.32% 20 "" 99.99% L2D and L3 in 8 generations 65,37% 12 " " 89.34% 20 " " 99.41% What do you make of this? Sometimes I think the MRCA might have been 'across the pond' in Ireland or Scotland. Most puzzling is the L1 closeness.... Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie R. Beaty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > Marlene, > > I'm not sharp in drawing conclusions from the DNA results, though I am > very > interested in discovering more specifically how these results might > confirm > or deny any of our paper trail information. I believe that I communicated > with your L2D DNA donor, ID 31 after the results revealed a very close > match > GD at 37 markers with my brother, ID 55. Of what relation is this person > to > you? My most distant known ancestor was James, 1752/53 who settled in > Cumberland Co KY around 1799 and removed to Rutherford Co TN bet > 1821-1822.