Thank you, my question like always was not very clear. I really wanted to know if the land was in VA. So this is Samuel of L-103. Right? and the land would be in VA or OH? Augusta co., VA grantees May 24, 1771 -Samuel Beaty from Mathew Thompson, Sr. B&S vol. 17 pg. 268 May 24, 1771 -Samuel Beaty from Mathew, Sr. & Rachel Thompson Release vol. 17 pg. 270 Nothing in the grantors so the land became a different county or possibly Wm, John, Samuel and the rest inherited it. They would have been born cir 1740-50 I suspect. Just something to keep in mind if we run into deeds where some of them are selling. I still can't decide if Walter was the father or bro of Samuel. One of Walter's dau's may have been in Cecil co., MD. Folks on ancestry give her to the John who died in Cecil co and left a will. Not certain how common the names John and Esther McCay/McCoy would be. Her age cir 1711 would point to Walter being the father of Samuel Pretty hard to prove. Some of them show a descen Ezek Beatty McCoy in NC and TN but it just all seems to be speculation. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Old land record Virginia and Donna, This is one of those tidbits of history that fascinate me, so I did a little poking around. Here's what I found. When Augusta Co., VA was created from Orange Co., VA in 1745, it was one of those frontier counties that went west 'forever' and north 'forever,' if you know what I mean. In other words, there was no defined western or northern boundary. Most, perhaps all, of the original colonies had those kind of counties. At that time, 1745, the southwestern part of PA was not part of any PA county boundary. Basically, it was Indian Country. In 1750, PA created Cumberland County out of part of Lancaster County and the southwestern Indian Country. But, the extreme western part of the southern boundary was apparently left up in the air. When the Mason-Dixon line was surveryed between 1763 and 1767, it settled the boundary dispute between Pennsylvania and Maryland, which it was supposed to do. But, even though the surveyors extended the line westward, it really didn't do much to settle the matter of the land in southwestern PA (and it wasn't supposed to - the surveyors just took it upon themselves to extend the line. The Crown was just interested in settling the PA-MD boundary dispute.). In 1773, Virginia actually created a "Western Augusta District," part of which was in southwestern PA. Then, in 1776, VA created three counties in that area. About the same time, PA created a county out there overlaying the VA counties. (Do you see a dispute brewing here?) I guess someone talked some sense into them because in 1786, VA formally terminated county jurisdiction in southwestern PA, the state boundary was accepted along the Mason-Dixon Line, and everybody went home happy (well, except for the Indians). However, I don't think any of this has much to do with Donna's question about Samuel Beaty. It looks to me like someone patented the land in Augusta Co., VA in 1759 and then sold it to Samuel Beaty of York Co., PA in 1771. York Co., PA was far enough east so it wasn't involved in the area dispute described above. So, that's the story as I understand it. Les Beaty, L-20 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donna, <<I really wanted to know if the land was in VA.>> My guess would be VA, but I really don't know for certain. I looked at my photocopies of pertinent pages of Chalkey, Vol. III, and find the citation you mentioned earlier. It says the tract is "on Collin's Branch, Robert Scott's line, Patrick Frazier's line." It doesn't say who the grantor was. But, the citations in your most recent message indicate that the grantor was Mathew Thompson, Sr. as in: May 24, 1771 -Samuel Beaty from Mathew Thompson, Sr. B&S vol. 17 pg. 268 May 24, 1771 -Samuel Beaty from Mathew, Sr. & Rachel Thompson Release vol. 17 pg. 270 It is interesting that I don't find those two citations in Chalkley. I wonder why. If one would try to locate the original 1759 grant to Mathew Thompson, Sr., it might be revealing as to location. Regarding Samuel Beaty, I can't speak to who he was (what lineage). Sorry I can't be more helpful. Les Beaty, L-20