Les, are there any participants from L-198? Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Beaty" <lbeaty@q.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Y-DNA Studies > Nelda, > > <<Do we have every Beatty lineage Y-DNA tested, for every line we have a > living male for?>> > > Nope; not even close. I believe we have over 450 separate lineages > documented in BP-2000 (with more showing up all the time). To date, we > have > 167 participants in our BeattyDNA Project. Those participants represent > 100 > of the BP lineages. Some lineages are represented by more than one > participant. Some participants do not have BP-2000 lineage numbers > assigned. We're making progress, but have a long way to go. And yes, > 100% > is a wonderful goal! > > <<For those of us on the BP2000 mailing list who primarily do paper trail > genealogy, wouldn't it be wonderful to prove our paper work? That is what > Y-DNA testing does for you, it can also disprove your paper trail. Which > we > might not like but it is very important to be correct!>> > > Those brick walls we all encounter are the primary reason for starting the > BeattyDNA Project. It helps us get past those walls, suggests lineages > which are related, and shows us where lineage connections might exist. We > have had some notable successes thus far and expect more with additional > participants. > > <<Let me see if I understand your groupings.>> > > Yep, that's about it. Except that the ancestor timeline is a little > closer > than 2,000 - 3,000 years. Using the estimates of mutation rates, we > calculated that with 25 markers, the probability of 4 mutations within > 20-30 > generations is low, and the probability of 5 is very low. So, a rule > developed that if a participant had a genetic distance (gd) of 5 or less > from the Group 01 reference haplotype, he was included in Group 01. The > other groups were created based on their genetic distance from Group 01 > and > from one another. Since a generation is estimated to be about 25 years > (or > 20, or 30 depending on who you ask), 20-30 generations would be a 500 - > 750 > year time line. > > Presently, we have those 167 participants grouped into 36 groups based on > their individual 25-marker haplotypes. About 70% of those participants > fall > into Group 01. So, there is a high probability that the members of Group > 01 > share a common ancestor who lived 500-750 years ago. But, we will > probably > never know who he was. > > For the benefit of newcomers to BP-2000 -- we don't have these discussions > often on BP-2000. When we started the BeattyDNA Project in 2000, the > BP-2000 membership felt that the discussions arising from that project > should be conducted on a separate list server. So, we set up a Yahoo > eGroup > and named it GenMatch. If you are not now a member of GenMatch but would > like to follow the discussions there, just go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GenMatch/ and click on Join. > > Nelda includes the link to our DNA Project website on all BP-2000 > messages. > Just look at the bottom. It is http://www.beattydna.org/. > > Les Beaty, L-20 > > Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys > ********************* > Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ > ********************* > Mailing List's Archives at: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5595 (20101105) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >

Virginia, <<are there any participants from L-198?>> Not yet. Sorry. You need to find a living, male, Beatty descendant of that lineage and get him to participate. To see the lineages tested so far, go to http://www.beattydna.org/BP2000_Lineages_Tested__2010-09-04.htm Les Beaty, L-20