I'd like to fix this, but I cannot locate those names in the L2C data. Can you provide the direct line from the progenitor? Michael Allen -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nelda Percival Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:07 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: [BP2000] Census - Good documentation or not Linda, The census is notorious for its errors. I don't know when enumerators started being paid by the hour but in the 1800s they were paid by the household. So, they would take the information from anyone that was there including children. If they found no one home they would ask the neighbors if there were any. The people listed, might even be listed by nicknames instead of christian names. Spellings were horrid, there were no rules for spelling until after the first encylopedia in the middle to late 1800s. When using a census for documentation you should try for additional secondary documentation. Such as Tax records, church records.. sometime in the latter 1800s the federal government required the states to start keeping birth and death records. Some states did not comply untill the begining of the 1900s. The federal census are not the only census, there were state and agruicultural census too. So, don't be upset when you find errors in the federal census. Also transcription errors - LOL I think Ancestry.com has outsourced the transcription of the census records... Some of the Spelling errors are actually funny if you weren't desperatly looking for the person. When ever you can, view the actual census document... This error needs correction... In the Beaty Lineage Chart L2C, it shows John J.'s death as 1868, 3 years before Pocahontas' death and before both the 1870 and 1880 census where he is recorded. You will need to contact Mike Allen so he can correct the data Nelda Nelda L. Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ my signature block is not bogas - Email me at nelda_percival@hotmail.com for infor. on my surnames: Gilpin Fletcher Graves Donlan Bonstein Lewis Cupp Hurst Gillock Wolfensberger Watson Craft Bovard Getz Boroom Davis - over 1000 more at my website. Willing to exchange data on any surname in my files. > From: kane65@centurylink.net > To: bp2000@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 07:15:21 -0500 > Subject: [BP2000] Beaty Linage Chart L2C, John J. and Sterling H Beaty > ...........Some data removed.............. > In the 1870 census it shows John J Beaty 1849, Hannah F Gentry Beaty and Sterling H. Beaty as born in 1849. I think something is wrong here because John and Sterling were not twins, that I know. > > In the 1880 census it shows Sterling 24 being born in 1856 and John Beaty as 27 and Pocahontas as 9. > > In the Beaty Lineage Chart L2C, it shows John J.'s death as 1868, 3 years before Pocahontas' death and before both the 1870 and 1880 census where he is recorded.

Sterling and John at the bottom. LINEAGE L2C 1 L2C John Beaty L2C 1760 - 1816 .. +Ann Wood 1775 - 1826 .. 2 David Beaty 1789 - 1874 .. +Jean (Jane) Crockett 1786 - 1818 ... 3 John Crockett Beaty 1812 - ... +Adeline Hightower 1817 - ..... 4 Pleasant M. Beaty 1836 - ..... +Melissa Caroline Kee 1844 - ..... 4 Jane (Jean) Beaty 1838 - ..... 4 Mary Ann Beaty 1839 - ..... +James Kirby ..... 4 George Beaty 1841 - ..... +Sarah ..... 4 Caroline Letitia Beaty 1842 - ..... +Unknown Barnam ..... 4 Robert Beaty 1845 - ..... 4 William R. Beaty 1848 - 1926 ..... +Rosa Parlee Kee 1852 - ..... 4 John Rufus Beaty 1853 - 1931 ..... +Eliza Elizabeth Rankin 1858 - 1943 ..... 4 James Beaty 1857 - ... *2nd Wife of John Crockett Beaty: ... +Elizabeth ... 3 Lucinda (Sinday) Beaty 1815 - 1876 ... +William Beaty 1805 - 1856 ..... 4 Thomas Beaty 1834 - 1835 ..... 4 Richard Beaty 1836 - 1867 ..... 4 Malinda Beaty 1838 - 1893 ..... +William Brown 1836 - ..... 4 Sarah Beaty 1842 - 1895 ..... +Joseph Leonard Draper 1839 - 1905 ..... 4 Joseph Wood Beaty 1845 - 1906 ..... +Mary J. Crabtree 1850 - 1918 ..... 4 Jehue H. Beaty 1847 - 1879 ..... +Cordelia Davidson 1855 - ..... 4 Jonathan Crockett Beaty 1850 - 1927 ..... +Martha Susan Jeanes 1855 - 1939 ..... 4 Frances Ann Beaty 1853 - 1894 ..... +James D. Brown ... 3 Joseph Wood Beaty 1818 - ... +Emaline ..... 4 David A. Beaty 1843 - ..... 4 Jacob Beaty 1846 - ..... 4 John William Beaty 1849 - ..... +Mary Elizabeth Riddle ..... 4 Charles Wood Beaty 1852 - .. *2nd Wife of David Beaty: .. +Naomi Standley 1795 - 1871 ... 3 Martha Jane "Jean" Beaty 1820 - ... +Albert Amick 1819 - ..... 4 David Beaty Amick 1841 - ..... +Martha Jane Amick ..... 4 Matilda Amick 1844 - ..... +Francis Marion Payne 1833 - ..... 4 Melvina Amick 1847 - ..... +James O'Dell ..... 4 Lewis Le Amick 1850 - ..... 4 John C. Amick 1855 - ..... 4 Albert Amick 1859 - 1943 ..... +Mariah Louise Spence ..... *2nd Wife of Albert Amick: ..... +Victoria Summers ... 3 Milley Ann Beaty 1824 - ... +Adam Fizer 1822 - ..... 4 Merenda Fizer 1844 - ..... 4 Charles Fizer 1846 - ..... 4 William Henry Fizer 1847 - ..... 4 David S. Fizer 1853 - ... 3 David Standley Beaty 1826 - 1872 ... +Mary Walker 1831 - 1902 ..... 4 John Calhoun William Beaty 1852 - 1942 ..... +Margaret Louisa Padgett 1857 - 1937 ..... 4 Wesley Braxton Cooper Beaty 1853 - 1944 ..... +Ida J. White 1863 - ..... 4 James O'Fallon Beaty 1855 - ..... +Rose A. Hale ..... 4 Bosque McClennan Beaty 1856 - ..... +Sarah Armentrout ..... 4 Mary Jane Beaty 1858 - 1860 ..... 4 Martha Ellen Beaty 1859 - ..... +William Nugent ..... *2nd Husband of Martha Ellen Beaty: ..... +Lum Robertson ..... 4 Mathilda Beaty 1860 - ..... +Willie Whitiker ..... 4 Lafayette Beaty 1862 - 1890 ..... 4 Missouri Beaty 1864 - 1883 ..... 4 David Henry Beaty 1866 - 1902 ..... 4 Sarah Elizabeth Beaty 1868 - 1953 ..... 4 Alfred Armstrong Beaty 1870 - 1949 ..... +Harriett Cook ..... *2nd Wife of Alfred Armstrong Beaty: ..... +Frances ..... 4 Lucy Beaty 1872 - 1890 ... 3 Matilda Beaty 1829 - ... +Thomas Dickerson 1817 - ..... 4 Jane Dickerson 1845 - ..... 4 Rachel Dickerson 1849 - ..... 4 Miley Ann Dickerson 1850 - ..... 4 Joseph Le Dickerson 1852 - ... 3 Pleasant H. Beaty 1832 - ... +Polly A. Tinker 1837 - ..... 4 Naomi Beaty 1860 - ..... 4 David Beaty 1862 - ..... +Allis (Ola) 1868 - ..... 4 Malina (Melonia) Beaty 1865 - ..... 4 Jacob Beaty 1870 - ..... +Arminda Findley 1883 - ..... 4 James Alvin Beaty 1877 - ..... +Unknown ..... *2nd Wife of James Alvin Beaty: ..... +Viola 1896 - ..... 4 Annie B. Beaty 1879 - ... 3 Malvina Beaty 1835 - ... +James O'Dell ... 3 Ann Rachel Beaty 1837 - .. 2 John Beaty 1790 - 1868 .. +Unknown - 1849 ... 3 Benjamin Beaty 1816 - ... 3 David Beaty 1826 - ... 3 William Beaty 1828 - ... 3 Amanda Beaty 1839 - ... 3 Julia Beaty 1842 - ... 3 Holesia Beaty 1844 - ... 3 Ardena Beaty 1846 - ... 3 John J. Beaty 1849 - 1868 ..... 4 Pocahantas Beaty 1871 - ... 3 Sterling H. Beaty 1849 - 1880 ... +Elizabeth 1857 - ..... 4 Lula Beaty 1877 - ..... 4 John Beaty 1879 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Allen" <naturalsoft@ameritech.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Census - Good documentation or not > > I'd like to fix this, but I cannot locate those names in the L2C data. Can > you provide the direct line from the progenitor? > > Michael Allen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Nelda Percival > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:07 AM > To: bp2000@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BP2000] Census - Good documentation or not > > > Linda, > The census is notorious for its errors. > I don't know when enumerators started being paid by the hour but in the > 1800s they were paid by the household. So, they would take the information > from anyone that was there including children. If they found no one home > they would ask the neighbors if there were any. > > The people listed, might even be listed by nicknames instead of christian > names. Spellings were horrid, there were no rules for spelling until after > the first encylopedia in the middle to late 1800s. > > When using a census for documentation you should try for additional > secondary documentation. Such as Tax records, church records.. sometime > in > the latter 1800s the federal government required the states to start > keeping > birth and death records. Some states did not comply untill the begining of > the 1900s. > > The federal census are not the only census, there were state and > agruicultural census too. > > So, don't be upset when you find errors in the federal census. Also > transcription errors - > > LOL I think Ancestry.com has outsourced the transcription of the census > records... Some of the Spelling errors are actually funny if you weren't > desperatly looking for the person. > > When ever you can, view the actual census document... > > This error needs correction... > In the Beaty Lineage Chart L2C, it shows John J.'s death as 1868, 3 years > before Pocahontas' death and before both the 1870 and 1880 census where he > is recorded. > > You will need to contact Mike Allen so he can correct the data > > Nelda > Nelda L. Percival > http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ my > signature block is not bogas - Email me at nelda_percival@hotmail.com for > infor. on my surnames: Gilpin Fletcher Graves Donlan Bonstein Lewis Cupp > Hurst Gillock Wolfensberger Watson Craft Bovard Getz Boroom Davis - over > 1000 more at my website. Willing to exchange data on any surname in my > files. > > > > >> From: kane65@centurylink.net >> To: bp2000@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 07:15:21 -0500 >> Subject: [BP2000] Beaty Linage Chart L2C, John J. and Sterling H Beaty >> > ...........Some data removed.............. > >> In the 1870 census it shows John J Beaty 1849, Hannah F Gentry Beaty and > Sterling H. Beaty as born in 1849. I think something is wrong here because > John and Sterling were not twins, that I know. >> >> In the 1880 census it shows Sterling 24 being born in 1856 and John Beaty > as 27 and Pocahontas as 9. >> >> In the Beaty Lineage Chart L2C, it shows John J.'s death as 1868, 3 years > before Pocahontas' death and before both the 1870 and 1880 census where he > is recorded. > > Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys > ********************* > Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ > ********************* > Mailing List's Archives at: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message