It's been about 4 years since I last posted to this list. I am still searching for Hugh Beatty. (L-58) HUGH CEPHAS BEATTY was born April 25, 1854, thought to be Butler Co. He went west in 1879 with the Thomas M. GILL family (wife Savilla) and was listed as a nephew in the 1880 census for Osage Co., KS. Clayton Beatty, last living grandson of HUGH, remembers him saying that his parents were killed and the children were farmed out to other family members. Clayton told me that Hugh often wondered what happened to his brothers and sisters. Last week I started going through every single GILL family I could find in 1870 census for Slippery Rock, Butler Co., and I found HUGH as a 16 year old, living with HIRAM GILL, brother to Thomas M. GILL. I could find no Hiram GILL in the 1860 census, but did find Hiram as a 6 yr old in the 1850 census for Slippery Rock. Nowhere could I find HUGH BEATTY. Where is he for 1860 census and with what family? Interestingly, I found in the 1860 census for Slipperyrock, PA, a HUSEPHIS BETTY, age 6. (Born 1854) I think this is my Hugh Beatty. 1870 Slippery Rock., Butler Co.PA a.. House #103 b.. GILL, David 70 c.. Martha 63 (her maiden name was McKee) d.. Martha E. 23 e.. Martha J. 9 f.. Willson 4 (this name was very hard to read, could have been Wilson) g.. Willson, Erwin 2 (hard to read) a.. House #107 b.. GILL, Hiram 25 c.. Elizabeth 23 d.. Anna 1 e.. HUGH * 16 (This is Hugh Cephas BEATTY) * f.. Morehead,Martha 14 a.. House #108 b.. GILL, T.M. 38 c.. Savilla 31 (Her maiden name is MOREHEAD) d.. Robert 10 e.. James S. 9 f.. Harriett 7 g.. Martha 5 h.. Sarah H. 2 i.. Morehead, Elnora 18 (First name hard to read) j.. Stoner, Jerrerson 19 (last name hard to read) Does anyone have a BEATTY married to a MOREHEAD about 1844-1854? A Gill? A Shaw? Thanks, Karen Beatty L-58

New member J. Ruth Zelenko, dzlett@rangebroadband.com has joined. Her Lineage 005 data extends the Samuel Wiley Beatty branch of the family like so [edited down to exclude contemporaries and siblings of 1, 2, & 3]: Descendants of John Beatty 1 John Beatty b: Abt. 1722 in Ireland d: 1765 in Ballykeel-Ednagonnel, County Down, IRE . +Jane Swan b: Abt. 1727 in Ireland d: Abt. 1817 in Ballykeel-Ednagonnel, County Down, IRE . 2 James Beatty b: 1761 in County Down, Ireland d: 1843 ... +Jane Nelson b: 1755 in Ireland d: January 17, 1839 in County Down, Ireland ... 3 William Swan Beatty b: 1790 in County Down, Ireland d: 1872 in Lisburn, Ireland ..... +Eliza Carson b: 1792 in Ireland d: 1867 in Ireland .... 4 Samuel Wiley Beatty b: Bet. 1822 - 1825 in County Down, Ireland d: 1881 in Ohio ...... +Mary Glovena "Last name Carson or Collins" Collins b: Abt. 1833 in (West) Virginia d: May 02, 1880 in Ironton, Lawrence, OH .... 5 George Carson Beatty b: October 1853 in Ohio d: November 29, 1916 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ...... +Adda Addie "Adda" Levisay b: February 28, 1862 in Olive Furnace, Lawrence, Ohio d: November 08, 1939 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ...... 6 Charles Allen Beatty b: January 15, 1889 in Huntington, Cabell Co., WV d: August 15, 1936 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ........ +Helen Samantha Reese-Tucker b: June 15, 1896 in Newport, Campbell Co., Kentucky d: February 22, 1966 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 Bertha Lauretta Beatty b: March 08, 1916 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: December 18, 1973 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Kenneth Daniel Strickler b: June 20, 1914 in Van Wert, Van Wert, Ohio d: August 12, 1971 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 Eugene Carson Beatty b: January 29, 1918 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: September 07, 1978 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Margaret Mae Claywell Anders b: March 18, 1923 in Wellston, Jackson Co., Ohio d: December 26, 1993 in Columbus, Franklin, Ohio ........... +Dorothy Margaret Tilley ....... 7 George Robert Beatty b: July 03, 1920 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: December 08, 2002 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Audrey Roberta Bushong b: August 06, 1920 in Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio d: October 31, 1992 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 James Frederick Beatty b: August 24, 1922 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: January 31, 2002 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Norma Jean Fiscus b: November 16, 1924 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 Harvey Ashley Beatty b: August 07, 1924 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: December 04, 1977 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Clara Louise Maddy b: March 31, 1931 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: May 12, 1995 in Hilliard, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 Paul Herbert Beatty b: July 31, 1926 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Valeria Louise Shockey b: January 24, 1931 in Mildred, Allen Co., Kansas ....... *2nd Wife of Paul Herbert Beatty: ......... +Florence Jeanne Benline b: December 24, 1928 in Martins Ferry, Belmont Co., Ohio ....... 7 Albert Woodrow Beatty b: June 07, 1928 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Agnes Marie Capretta b: December 27, 1928 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 Francis Patrick Beatty b: March 16, 1931 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: December 02, 1941 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 Patricia Ann Beatty b: March 16, 1931 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 William Richard Beatty b: August 31, 1932 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: December 22, 1999 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ......... +Shirley Anne Baker b: December 06, 1930 in Dayton, Montgomery Co., Ohio d: December 06, 2000 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ....... 7 Alice Elizabeth Beatty b: March 27, 1934 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: February 2005 in Clearfield, Utah ......... +Gerald Glenn Stauffer b: April 16, 1933 in Williard, Utah ....... 7 Doris Marie Beatty b: April 06, 1937 d: April 18, 1938 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ...... 6 Leona Carson Beatty b: March 30, 1881 in Huntington, Cabell Co., WVa d: March 31, 1946 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ........ +Joseph James Kramer b: Abt. 1880 in Ohio ....... 7 Bernadene Kramer b: Abt. 1905 in Ohio ....... 7 Gertrude Ruth Kramer b: Abt. 1916 ...... 6 Pearl Beatty b: July 26, 1884 in Huntington, Cabell Co., WVa d: February 22, 1957 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ........ +Court "Courtland" Benjamin b: May 23, 1869 in Illinois or Ohio? d: July 18, 1951 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ...... *2nd Husband of Pearl Beatty: ........ +Walter William Streng b: December 19, 1882 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio d: April 18, 1923 in Columbus, Franklin, Ohio ....... 7 John Carson Streng b: April 04, 1914 in See Birth Certificate d: April 26, 1967 in Mt. Vernon State Hospital, Mt. Vernon, Knox Co., Ohio ....... 7 Allen Robert Streng b: July 26, 1910 in Columbus, Franklin, Ohio d: August 05, 1910 in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio ...... 6 George Samuel Sanard Beatty b: September 10, 1886 in Huntington, Cabell Co., WVa ........ +Louise"Barbara Louise, Hernestive?" Haines b: October 02, 1901 in Ohio d: November 20, 1958 in Columbus, Franklin, Ohio ....... 7 Addie Louise Beatty b: January 15, 1923 in Columbus, Ohio d: December 27, 1992 in Columbus, Franklin, Ohio ......... +Glen Sutherland b: March 29, 1913 in Ohio d: July 1979 in Columbus, Franklin, Ohio .... 5 William S. (Clem) "Clem Beatty" Beatty b: April 1852 in Ohio ...... +Emma A. Unk b: July 1860 in Ohio ...... 6 William C. Beatty b: December 1886 in Ohio ........ +Bertha <Beatty> ...... 6 George C. Beatty b: July 1889 in Ohio ...... 6 Mary A. Beatty b: October 1891 in Ohio ...... 6 John S. Beatty b: October 1893 in Ohio .... 5 Anna Todd "Annatee in Census" Beatty b: 1859 in Ohio prob Lawrence County .... 5 James Mangum "Mangrum?" Beatty b: 1865 in Ohio prob Lawrence County .... 5 Eliza Mary Claudene Beatty b: Abt. 1857 in Ohio .... 5 Francis Beatty b: Bet. 1855 - 1856 in Ohio prob Lawrence County .... 5 Samuel W. Jr. Beatty b: 1863 in Ohio prob Lawrence County .... 5 Joshua Charles "Charley" Beatty b: August 1869 in Ohio prob Lawrence County .... 4 George Beatty b: 1815 ...... +Bella Eden .... 4 James Beatty b: 1816 in Ireland d: 1840 .... 4 Robert Beatty b: 1819 in Ireland ...... +Mary Ann Beatty .... 4 Jane Beatty b: 1820 in Ireland ...... +George Beatty b: 1777 in County Down, Ballykeel-Ednagonnel, Ireland d: 1847 .... 5 William Beatty b: 1843 in Ireland ...... +Eliza Jane Cargin .... 5 George Beatty b: 1844 in Ireland .... 5 James Beatty b: 1846 d: Aft. 1886 in County Down, Hillsborough, Ireland .... 5 Margaret Beatty b: 1846 in Ireland ...... +John McKee .... 4 Margaret-Ann Beatty b: 1822 in Ireland ...... +John Todd .... 4 [5] William Beatty b: 1823 in Ireland d: 1859 ...... +Mary Moore .... *2nd Wife of [5] William Beatty: ...... +[4] Eliza Beatty b: 1826 in Ireland d: 1851 in Ireland .... 4 John Beatty b: 1825 in Ireland d: 1859 .... 4 [4] Eliza Beatty b: 1826 in Ireland d: 1851 in Ireland ...... +[5] William Beatty b: 1823 in Ireland d: 1859 .... 4 Nelson Beatty b: 1830 in Ireland ...... +Mary Bell .... 4 Ellen Beatty b: 1832 in Ireland d: 1868 ...... +John Kennedy b: in Ireland? ...Mike Allen

Shelia, Yes, I believe that Kay says that this is the family that she is looking for. Thanks you so much for your help. Julie Miller, L.39

Is this him in 1841 Census View Record Eliza Beattie abt 1837 Angus, Scotland Montrose Angus 312 View Record Jannet Beattie abt 1840 Angus, Scotland Montrose Angus 312 View Record Mary Beattie abt 1811 Angus, Scotland Montrose Angus 312 View Record Mary Beattie abt 1835 Angus, Scotland Montrose Angus 312 View Record William Beattie abt 1806 Angus, Scotland Montrose Angus 312 1851 Scotland Census about William Beattie Name: William Beattie Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: St Cyrus, Kincar Parish Number: 312 Civil parish: Montrose County: Angus Address: Birk Cottage Occupation: Farm Labourer ED: 1A Page: 15 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 56 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1851_68 Household Members: Name Age David Beattie 5 Eliza Beattie 13 Jessie Beattie 10 Mary Beattie 15 William Beattie 46 William Beattie 8 1861 Scotland Census about William Beattie Name: William Beattie Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1804 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: St Cyrus, Kincardine Registration Number: 312 Registration district: Montrose Civil parish: Montrose County: Angus Address: Denhead Cotteri H Occupation: Ploughman ED: 31 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 14 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1861_45 Household Members: Name Age Elisabeth Beattie 23 Mary Beattie 25 William Beattie 57 This is a Possible birth record for him WILLIAM BEATTIE Male Event(s): Birth: 28 JUN 1803 Christening: 30 JUN 1803 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland Parents: Father: WILLIAM BEATTIE Family Mother: JANET SMITH Batch no: C112674 other potential siblings > 3. JAMES BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Male Birth: 01 NOV 1810 > 4. JAMES BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Male Christening: 24 NOV 1810 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland > 5. ALEXANDER BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Male Birth: 28 JUN 1803 > 6. ALEXANDER BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Male Christening: 30 JUN 1803 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland > 7. ANNE BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Birth: 01 NOV 1810 > 8. ANNE BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Christening: 24 NOV 1810 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland > 9. HELEN BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Birth: 09 OCT 1812 > 10. HELEN BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Christening: 08 NOV 1812 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland > 11. JEAN BEATTIE - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Female Christening: 10 JUL 1800 Saint Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland This is Alexander in 1851 1851 Scotland Census about Alexander Beattie Name: Alexander Beattie Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Isabel Gender: Male Where born: St Cyrus, Kincar Parish Number: 312 Civil parish: Montrose County: Angus Address: Kinnaber Mills Upper Occupation: Farm Labourer ED: 1A Page: 14 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 52 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1851_68 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Beattie 46 Ann Beattie 8 Isabel Beattie 36 James Beattie 10 Jane Beattie 3 You could track down a death record for Alexander to confirm if he has the same parents Possible ideas Sheila I Hale 236/237 jjmill@peoplepc.com wrote: > I received this message. She does not belong to the Beatty group nor is it my lineage. > Wondering if anybody can help. > > Julie Miller L.39 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kay cooper > To: jjmill@peoplepc.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: brick wall > > > Thanks Julie, I looked Sunday afternoon and I did not get anywhere William Beattie was born approx 1803 he married Mary Milne 1834 in Montrose, Angus, Scotland and died in Montrose 1869. I cannot confirm his birth, somehow I had it that he was the son of James Beattie and Helen Kerr and have thought this for about 18months but when I found his death entry on Scotlands People it gave a William Beattie widowerof Mary Milne father William Beattie Blacksmith this was news to me and now I cannot find anything else about his parents. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Kay > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Julie, As far as I know I am not connected to this family. I did get the Scottish Census from Ancestry.com and the Baptismal record from the Scottish Government's web page: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ I wish I had a recent Scottish ancestor--they have such wonderful records available on the internet! Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: <jjmill@peoplepc.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fw: brick wall > Thanks Laurel, > I sent it on to her but with the time difference won't hear until > tomorrow. > Did you get this from Ancestry? > Does this have any connection to you? > > Julie Miller, L.39 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:50 PM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fw: brick wall > > >> Is this him in the Scottish Census? >> > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Is this him in the Scottish Census? 1841 Montrose, Angus, Scotland, p. 3 William Beattie 35 born Angus, Scotland Mary 30 Mary 6 Eliza 4 Jannet 1 1851 Montrose, Angus, Scotland, page 15 William Beattie 46 born St. Cyrus, Kincar Mary 15 Eliza 13 Jessie 10 William 8 David 5 1861 Montrose, Angus, Scotland, page 3 William Beattie 57 born St. Cyrus, Kincardine Mary 25 Elizabeth 23 If so, there is a William Beattie born 3/6/1803 in St. Cyrus, Kincardine whose father was William Beattie and his mother was Janet Smith. His brother, Alexander, was baptized on the same day. If you need a copy of the Baptism, let me know. Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: <jjmill@peoplepc.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: [BP2000] Fw: brick wall >I received this message. She does not belong to the Beatty group nor is it >my lineage. > Wondering if anybody can help. > > Julie Miller L.39 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kay cooper > To: jjmill@peoplepc.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: brick wall > > > Thanks Julie, I looked Sunday afternoon and I did not get anywhere > William Beattie was born approx 1803 he married Mary Milne 1834 in > Montrose, Angus, Scotland and died in Montrose 1869. I cannot confirm his > birth, somehow I had it that he was the son of James Beattie and Helen > Kerr and have thought this for about 18months but when I found his death > entry on Scotlands People it gave a William Beattie widowerof Mary Milne > father William Beattie Blacksmith this was news to me and now I cannot > find anything else about his parents. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Kay > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 3/6/2007 4:32:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ecbeaty@comcast.net writes: To join Genmatch just send a blank e-mail to: GenMatch-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You should be prompted for everything else. Thanks Earl. Don Beattie <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/6/2007 3:18:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ecbeaty@comcast.net writes: I have a message from Les from far away. He is monitoring this List, but can't post. Also he receives requests to join Genmatch. I suggest you join Genmatch, if for no other reason, because that is a better place for this discussion. The division is that this List is about document-based genealogy, and Genmatch is mostly about genetic genealogy. Of course we are all looking for an overlap. Hi Earl, how do I join Genmatch. Thanks. Don Beattie <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/6/2007 3:18:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ecbeaty@comcast.net writes: Your comment on the other company suggests that you sent in a DNA sample to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. They do some markers that Family Tree DNA does not. I suspect though Earl that it will be about 8 more months before I get those results. When I do I'll share them. Thanks. Don Beattie <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks Laurel, I sent it on to her but with the time difference won't hear until tomorrow. Did you get this from Ancestry? Does this have any connection to you? Julie Miller, L.39 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fw: brick wall > Is this him in the Scottish Census? >

To join Genmatch just send a blank e-mail to: GenMatch-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You should be prompted for everything else. --Earl ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nacelod@aol.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Beatty info at World connect > > In a message dated 3/6/2007 3:18:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > ecbeaty@comcast.net writes: > > I have a message from Les from far away. He is monitoring this List, but > can't post. Also he receives requests to join Genmatch. I suggest you join > Genmatch, if for no other reason, because that is a better place for this > discussion. The division is that this List is about document-based > genealogy, and Genmatch is mostly about genetic genealogy. Of course we are > all looking for an overlap. > > > Hi Earl, how do I join Genmatch. Thanks. Don Beattie > >

Don, Your comment on the other company suggests that you sent in a DNA sample to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. They do some markers that Family Tree DNA does not. I have a message from Les from far away. He is monitoring this List, but can't post. Also he receives requests to join Genmatch. I suggest you join Genmatch, if for no other reason, because that is a better place for this discussion. The division is that this List is about document-based genealogy, and Genmatch is mostly about genetic genealogy. Of course we are all looking for an overlap. --Earl ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nacelod@aol.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Beatty info at World connect > > In a message dated 3/5/2007 2:31:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > ecbeaty@comcast.net writes: > > I believe you mentioned that you have test results from another company. If > so I would be interested in seeing them. > > > Yes, Earl, that may take a year from when I did it last September I believe. > Yes, I'd like that you introduce McKnight in that you know more about the > YDNA results and comparisons to other people, mine to his. Thanks. No rush. Don > Beattie

I received this message. She does not belong to the Beatty group nor is it my lineage. Wondering if anybody can help. Julie Miller L.39 ----- Original Message ----- From: kay cooper To: jjmill@peoplepc.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:25 AM Subject: Re: brick wall Thanks Julie, I looked Sunday afternoon and I did not get anywhere William Beattie was born approx 1803 he married Mary Milne 1834 in Montrose, Angus, Scotland and died in Montrose 1869. I cannot confirm his birth, somehow I had it that he was the son of James Beattie and Helen Kerr and have thought this for about 18months but when I found his death entry on Scotlands People it gave a William Beattie widowerof Mary Milne father William Beattie Blacksmith this was news to me and now I cannot find anything else about his parents. Any help would be appreciated. Kay

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In a message dated 3/5/2007 2:31:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ecbeaty@comcast.net writes: I believe you mentioned that you have test results from another company. If so I would be interested in seeing them. Yes, Earl, that may take a year from when I did it last September I believe. Yes, I'd like that you introduce McKnight in that you know more about the YDNA results and comparisons to other people, mine to his. Thanks. No rush. Don Beattie <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Don, Most of our participants in the genetic testing program are descendants of a long ago ancestor who we believe lived in Dumfriesshire Scotland. But we don't have test results on any Beatty actually living in Dumfriesshire. So we have to consider the possibility that the Beattys of Dumfriesshire are different. Because of that I am disappointed that you don't have a good match to the other Beattys. As I noted your haplotype is distinctive enough that when we find one of your close relatives we should recognize him. Your match with a McKnight is close enough to be interesting. I think you should follow up with it. You have his e-mail address and perhaps he will respond. I can write to him if you prefer. The best way to compare details is for both of you to upload your results to Ysearch. He may already be there; I can't tell without knowing his ID or something about his test results.. Family Tree DNA makes it easy to upload your data. I can do it for you but they ask a few personal questions. Answers to these questions are not required, but they would help somebody trying to make a connection. I believe you mentioned that you have test results from another company. If so I would be interested in seeing them. --Earl ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nacelod@aol.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Beatty info at World connect > Hi Earl, > > This is Don Beattie > > Your explanation sent to me via Laurel is well received and understood. I am > not a match with anyone but may be eventually with the person doing the YDNA > in Dumfriesshire where my people/Beatties came from.lI am of course > interested in the McKnight possible match, eh? Thanks for your help.Now for the > waiting game. I know that from the experiences of others of my cousins not related > to the Beatties -- some who have immediate matches and even to me through the > Moodys and others who have no matches but have a paper trail which would > lead one to think that there would be a perfect 37 marker match. Don Beattie in > Winthrop, ME.

Hi all. I am re-sending the message below as it appears not to have made it to the list on the first sending. Regards, Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne Walker To: BP2000 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:42 AM Subject: Scottish Beattie resources Hello, all. I recently joined the list. I am researching a number of the Beattie families of Glenbucket and Strathdon parishes in Aberdeenshire, Scotland. If anyone has links to the area I have posted a project tracing the Beattie families of Glenbucket here http://www.geocities.com/swalker7736/beattie.htm, and have a variety of Strathdon info posted through the main page: http://www.geocities.com/swalker7736/. I'd love to hear from you if you have a connection with the area. In browsing through the list archives, I saw a couple of questions about Scottish resources, and references to scotlandspeople but not links to some of my favorite links for (mostly free) data. I've thrown a little list together below in case they might help someone out. Regards, Suzanne Walker Lineage 025 ------------------------------------------ Some helpful sites for Scottish research: Census - FreeCen is in the process of transcribing and posting census records. Progress varies by county, but 1841 is largely complete. 1851/1861 are sporadically complete. search: http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl status: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/statistics.html 1881 - I have a copy of the LDS CDs for the scottish 1881 census. I'd be willing to do lookups if people need them. Scotlandspeople - http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Official government site. Offers searches and images at a nominal fee. Information includes: » Births 1855-1906 » Marriages 1855-1931 » Deaths 1855-1956 » Births & Baptisms 1553-1854 » Banns & Marriages 1553-1854 » Census 1841-1901 » Wills & Testaments Search 1513-1901 (search is free with registration) Other useful sites http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ http://www.nas.gov.uk/ http://www.nas.gov.uk/catalogues/default.asp http://www.cwgc.org/ Aberdeenshire-specific http://www.abdnet.co.uk/mi-index/ http://www.anesfhs.org.uk/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyAberdeen.htm (note, can edit link to get batch numbers for other counties) Moray-specific http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp

In a message dated 3/5/2007 9:29:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ecbeaty@comcast.net writes: I am here and available any time. I am not always fast about reading this list, but usually respond to direct questions. Interpreting all the DYSs and alleles is not necessarily easy but neither is it wildly difficult. Our effort to fill in the background information and definitions can be found at www.BeattyDNA.org. Discussion of results is at the Yahoo Groups List called Genmatch. Joining Genmatch this week is probably not possible because Les is out of the country. --Earl Beaty, L13, L20 Hi Earl, This is Don Beattie Your explanation sent to me via Laurel is well received and understood. I am not a match with anyone but may be eventually with the person doing the YDNA in Dumfriesshire where my people/Beatties came from.lI am of course interested in the McKnight possible match, eh? Thanks for your help.Now for the waiting game. I know that from the experiences of others of my cousins not related to the Beatties -- some who have immediate matches and even to me through the Moodys and others who have no matches but have a paper trail which would lead one to think that there would be a perfect 37 marker match. Don Beattie in Winthrop, ME. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I am here and available any time. I am not always fast about reading this list, but usually respond to direct questions. Interpreting all the DYSs and alleles is not necessarily easy but neither is it wildly difficult. Our effort to fill in the background information and definitions can be found at www.BeattyDNA.org. Discussion of results is at the Yahoo Groups List called Genmatch. Joining Genmatch this week is probably not possible because Les is out of the country. --Earl Beaty, L13, L20 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nacelod@aol.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Beatty info at World connect > > In a message dated 3/4/2007 9:16:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > nelda_percival@hotmail.com writes: > > I'd love to help, but that would be, being rude to Earl. He runs the Beatty > > project... Did you contact him? You can send him your markers from the other > testing house. Which testing house was it? What test did you do at Family > tree DNA? > > Have you joined the mailing list for the yDNA project? > > > Yes, I probably have joined the yDNA mailing list project/your project. I'll > have to figure that out when I write to Earl. How do I write to Earl? I'll > send him what I got in the mail yesterday. I don't know what you mean by a test > I did? How about Allele markers and DYS numbers. I don't know about these > things enough to describe things. I just got a certificate - Y-DNA from Family > Tree DNA, with results based on kit # 81627 which I submitted a few months or > whatever before I did the test with BP-2000, eh? This certificate says if I > my alleles for the thirty-seven Loci match another person exactly, then you/I > share the same Haplotype. I have DYS numbers and below those are the Allele > numbers and some of them are equal and many are not. So, I guess I should > send all of the DYS numbers and the comparable Allele numbers to Earl. Early > Beatty? Thanks. Don.

In a message dated 3/5/2007 12:02:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nelda_percival@hotmail.com writes: Now, I hope that helped you! Nelda just a member... Yes, Nelda what a nice letter. You are busy but you are the greatest. Thanks You. Don Beattie hopefully a member also. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.