Julie Miller and Susen Bryant, and BP2000 Listers, I just have to join this conversation! Susen, coincidentally, I had just looked into my "Beatty Unknown" folder, in the last couple of days. and I read the e-mails that we shared back in 2001. This might refresh your memory about our contact with each other, and it appears as though I had posted this on the BP2000. Julie Miller and Sue Knost, I think this all happened before I met up with you two and before we merged into L-39, which was my Lineage number, originally. As most of you know, when lineages merge, they always merge down to the lowest number. Susen Bryant, I am even more interested, now that I read this again. The Beatty family is my mom's mother's side, and the McDonald family is my mom's father's side. Yes, it was the McDonalds who lived in Copemish, Manistee County, Michigan, but after all, some of the Beatty family lived up there, because that is where my grandfather McDonald met my grandmother (Beatty) McDonald. These last two postings caught my eye, because I have been "neck-deep" in my McDONALD family (From King Twp., York Co., Ontario, Canada) and my WEBB family (from Uxbridge/Whitchurch area, which became Aurora, York Co., Ontario, Canada. How have you been, Susen? Yes, I think we need to compare notes, again, in case either of us has had any new information or break-throughs! Just arrow below Susen's name and the double lines and you can read a copy of my posting, which must have appeared on 04 October 2001, but I have not looked in the archives, yet. Lois Kortering, L-39 ----- Original Message ----- From: <NLIGH10NDSOUL@aol.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Lancaster Co., > In a message dated 5/6/2007 8:25:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > jjmill@peoplepc.com writes: > > Looking for fellow researchers that have any ties to > Lancaster Co., PA. around Sadbury, Caervnarvon, > Leacock, Columbia, West Donegal, in and around 1840. Julie Miller, L.39 > I have a great great great grandfather that was born in Silver Springs, > Lancaster County in 1842, his name was Amos John Beat(t)y his father was > listed > as Hiram. Amos John had an older brother Peter. I don't know how much > help > that is but, I wish I had more information myself. > > Susen ========================================================= 04 October 2001 Minutes after I shared a 1993 letter with the BP 2000 last night (October 3), I received an e-mail from Susen Bryant, another member. The John H. (Or A.) Beatty, born 1889 and died 1956, as well as his wife, Selma L. (Krupps) Beatty, born 1894 and died 1965, who were buried in the Lakeside Cemetery here in Muskegon are in Susen's lineage. The little note had been on my bulletin board in my computer room for 12 years! I had found John H. Beatty's name in a City Directory while doing a title search on a 100-year-old house our daughter bought in Lakeside. That house is only two minutes from our house. Susen gave me this information: Amos John Beatty was married to Marguerite Miller first and they had five children: Wilson, Casper, Jacob, Lizzie, and Charles. Jacob is Susen's direct link. Then, Amos John Beatty married Mattie Method and they had four children: Claude C., Maude E., Roy J., and John H. For a time they lived in Manistee county, 1900 census. In 1920 census they had relocated to Muskegon on Yuba street. Amos John Beatty died in 1924 in that house, so did Mattie Method Beatty. OBITUARY Muskegon Chronicle Saturday, June 21, 1924 Muskegon, Muskegon County, Michigan Amos J. Beatty Amos j. Beatty, 49 Sumner Street, died Friday morning at his home, after a short illness, age 81 years. Mr. Beatty was born in Silver Springs, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, and came to Muskegon 13 years ago from Copemish, Michigan. For thirteen years Mr. Beatty has been in the employ of the Pere Marquette Railway, and for four years past, has been flagman at the Ottawa Street crossing. He leaves, besides his wife, seven children: Mrs. Elmer Randall of Cadillac, Michigan; Mrs. James Bearrault of Seattle, Washington; Charles Beatty of Manistee, Michigan; and Casper, Jacob, Claude, and John Beatty, all of Muskegon; thirty-two grandchildren and thirty-five great-grandchildren. The funeral service will be held at 3:30 o'clock Monday afternoon in the chapel at the Balbirnie Mortuary. Friends will omit flowers. What I found out this morning: The house on Sumner is still standing, and I took some pictures of it for Susen. The house number had changed from 49 to 299 Sumner. In a 1924 City Directory, a John H. (a Watchman) and Mattie lived at 49 Sumner, as well as, John H., Jr. (a Machine Hand) and Zella. Most likely, the first John H. is Amos John and is the father of John H., Jr. Most likely, everyone called the father "John" instead of Amos, unless the "H" stands for "Hamos" and was pronounced "Amos." Yuba Street is one block west of the corner of the 299 Sumner address, and it crosses Sumner. I will try to find the Yuba Street address in the 1920 City Directory. Copemish, Michigan is mentioned, and, both, my mother's family, and my dad's family lived up there. Also, several of the given names are similar to our Beatty given names, so I need to find out if this Beatty family is connected to ours (L-39). The area around Sumner Street, which is just north of downtown Muskegon was at one time called "Jackson Hill" and was a very beautiful neighborhood with lovely homes. Today, the neighborhood is coming back after many years of being "Run-down." We can thank the "Neighborhood Associations," that have been forming in recent years, for encouraging a lot of areas to help eliminate crime and to take pride in their neighborhoods. I will be working with Susen Bryant to find out more about this "Limb" of Beatty families. Lois E. 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In a message dated 5/6/2007 8:25:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jjmill@peoplepc.com writes: Looking for fellow researchers that have any ties to Lancaster Co., PA. around Sadbury, Caervnarvon, Leacock, Columbia, West Donegal, in and around 1840. I have a great great great grandfather that was born in Silver Springs, Lancaster County in 1842, his name was Amos John Beat(t)y his father was listed as Hiram. Amos John had an older brother Peter. I don't know how much help that is but, I wish I had more information myself. Susen ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Looking for fellow researchers that have any ties to Lancaster Co., PA. around Sadbury, Caervnarvon, Leacock, Columbia, West Donegal, in and around 1840. Julie Miller, L.39

Donna, I just got around to this message. Samuel Beatty born 1793 was the one that founded Beattyville, Kentucky. He and his family are buried there also. Armond L-32 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> To: "BP2000" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: [BP2000] Beattyville, Greenup co., KY > I am doing research in a Portsmouth, Scioto co., OH newspaper and the > frequent references to Beattyville have me stumped. I know it is in Greenup > co., KY, by 1876 it had been incorporated into Springville, Greenup co., KY > however the community still had their own news in the paper as Beattyville > under the Springville news. I can't even find Springville, KY. It has to > be across the river from Portsmouth I suspect. I am curious which Beatty > gave it it's name. I know L-1 Wm. Rochester (W.R.-son of Adam) was in > Greenup co., KY on the 1840 census but I suspect it was named for an earlier > Beatty. I am reseaching a John Beatty originally of PA who died in 1806 of > malaria in Scioto co., OH and I noticed there was a business in Beattyville > cir 1870-80 that had barges on the river owned by Beatty & Thompson. One of > the early John Beatty's daughters married a Thompson. Does anyone know > anything about this second Beattyville, KY and/or its namesake? Donna L-3 > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Kathleen, I don't know if this is your Mary Beattie or not but it does look good. 1900 > NEW YORK > KINGS CO. 10-WD BROOKLYN BORO, City of New York, Series: T623 Roll: 1049 Page: 55, 10th. day of June, Living at 389 President St., Dwelling 164, Family 353. Looks like a Apartment house. Alexander Beattie, head, w, m, b: Jan. 1865, 35, married for 18 yrs., b: NY, parents b: Ireland, Catherine, wife, w, f, b: Mch. 1866, 34, married for 18 yrs., 8 children with 4 children living, b: NY, parents b: Ireland Anna, daughter, w, f, b: Oct 1885, 14, single, b: NY Lizzie, daughter, w, f, b: Oct. 1887, 12, single, b: NY [Note: this could be Mary] Essbele?, daughter, w, f, b: Nov. 1891, 8, single, b: NY [Edna?] Agnes, daughter, w, f, b: Oct 1899, 7/12 months, b: NY All can read except Agnes 1910 > NEW YORK > KINGS CO. > 14-WD BROOKLYN, Series: T624 Roll: 962 Page: 25, Block B, 18th. day of April, Living at 92 North 5th. St., Dwelling 23, Family 85 Harry H. Robbins, head, m, w, 25, married 1 time for 2 yrs., b: NY, parents b: NY, driver sugar house, works. Annie Robbins, wife, f, w, 25, married 1 time for 2 yrs., 1 child with 1 child living, b: NY, parents b : NY, no occupation Henry H. Robbins, son, m, w, 4?, single, b: NY Marie Rentell, boarder, f, w, 26, widowed, 1 child with 0 living, b: NY, parents b: NY, operator shoe factory Mary Beattie, sister in law, f, w, 21, single, b: NY, parents b: NY, operator shoe factory 1910 > NEW YORK > OTSEGO CO., PITTSFIELD TOWN, Series: T624 Roll: 950 Page: 119, 30th. day of April, Dwellings 113 & 114. Families 115 & 116 Family 115 Alex. J. Beatty, head, m, w, 47, married 1 time for 25 yrs., b: NY, parents b: Ireland, farmer, owns mortgaged Anna?, wife, f, w, 43, f, w, married 1 time for 25 yrs., no children listed, b: NY, father b: NY?, mother b: PA? Edna, daughter, f, w, 22?, single, b: NY Agnes, daughter, f, w, 21?, single, b: NY Family 116 Thomas Beatty, head, m, w, 55, married 1 time for 21 yrs., b: NY, parents b: Ireland, farmer, owns farm free of mortgage John Beatty, brother, m, w, 50, single, b: NY, parents b: Ireland, laborer, farm All can read and write and speak English Kind regards, Cheryl L-392 ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathleen Vignolini" <kathylpv@mac.com> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:57 AM Subject: [BP2000] BEATTIE, MARY > I am looking for My Mother s Birth Parents - Here are the statistics > My Mother - Elizabeth Annie BEATTIE was born 22 May, 1909 > at 188 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn, NY. Died 5 Jan 1994 > > Birth Certificate: NY State Certificate no. 15956, Dated 27 May 1909, > states > Elizabeth Annie BEATTIE, female, dob 22 May 1909 > place of birth, 188 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn, NY > Mother, Mary BEATTIE, residence, 188 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn > place of birth, Brooklyn, NY, age, 20 yrs old, no occupation > given. > Father, Moses SCHULSKY, residence, address written as, . . > Madison, NY > place of birth, NY, occupation, Driver, age, 28, in May 1909. > > Elizabeth was unofficially adopted, which is how we have the above > certificate. > Her Birth Mother wrote the agency, to meet Elizabeth, in the 1930s. > Her adoptive Mother met her Birth mother, but didn't tell Elizabeth > but said > Elizabeth (in her 20s) was . . . "the spitting image of her mother"! > > I'd be glad to "give to get" - to help anyone searching for NYC > archives. > I'm not too far from NYC. (I used to go to Municipal Archives, > Chambers St > & the Fed Archives, Houston & Varrick often.) > Kathleen E Lo Pinto Vignolini, NJ. > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 05/02/2007 2:16 PM > >

I am looking for My Mother s Birth Parents - Here are the statistics My Mother - Elizabeth Annie BEATTIE was born 22 May, 1909 at 188 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn, NY. Died 5 Jan 1994 Birth Certificate: NY State Certificate no. 15956, Dated 27 May 1909, states Elizabeth Annie BEATTIE, female, dob 22 May 1909 place of birth, 188 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn, NY Mother, Mary BEATTIE, residence, 188 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn place of birth, Brooklyn, NY, age, 20 yrs old, no occupation given. Father, Moses SCHULSKY, residence, address written as, . . Madison, NY place of birth, NY, occupation, Driver, age, 28, in May 1909. Elizabeth was unofficially adopted, which is how we have the above certificate. Her Birth Mother wrote the agency, to meet Elizabeth, in the 1930s. Her adoptive Mother met her Birth mother, but didn't tell Elizabeth but said Elizabeth (in her 20s) was . . . "the spitting image of her mother"! I'd be glad to "give to get" - to help anyone searching for NYC archives. I'm not too far from NYC. (I used to go to Municipal Archives, Chambers St & the Fed Archives, Houston & Varrick often.) Kathleen E Lo Pinto Vignolini, NJ.

Hi, I have the delux membership.. but just couldn't figure it out.. LOL I was looking in records (the full data files) for a listing of ship records... Wonder why a search did not bring that up... need to go back and check... Nelda Nelda's websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE

In a message dated 5/1/2007 12:45:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jbeatty@acpl.lib.in.us writes: Les. My opinion is that it is highly likely that the ship made a couple of voyages a year. Considering that it took six to eight weeks each way, that is more than enough time for a ship to make two voyages a year. I am not a nautical expert, but I suspect that ships were refitted at longer intervals. You might check with the staff of the Peabody Museum in Salem, Massachusetts, which has one of the premier nautical collections in the nation. John There is also _MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com) which has list members who know a lot about Salem and Essex County, eh? I do not know from the above what is the name or nature of the ship you are asking about; nonetheless, I am sure if you write to the web site,t above, someone (there may not be zillions but many) will steer your appropriately. Thanks. Don Beattie in Winthrop, ME. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Les. My opinion is that it is highly likely that the ship made a couple of voyages a year. Considering that it took six to eight weeks each way, that is more than enough time for a ship to make two voyages a year. I am not a nautical expert, but I suspect that ships were refitted at longer intervals. You might check with the staff of the Peabody Museum in Salem, Massachusetts, which has one of the premier nautical collections in the nation. John >>> lbeaty@higherspeed.net 4/30/2007 9:51 PM >>> All, I have a question (maybe more than one) for an immigration/ship expert. I have a newspaper 'bio' about a William Brown. According to the article, he said that he left Belfast, Ireland on April 3, 1840 on board the "Consbrook, a sailing vessel, and with 364 fellow passengers." He landed in Canada and then went to Chicago and on to Iowa. The article was published in 1908, so William was up in years when it was written. Thus, his memory might be foggy. There is a record of the Consbrook sailing from Belfast to Canada in May 1839 with 308 passengers. But, no 1840 record has been found. I haven't checked the "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" down at the library yet. But, my question is, is it likely that a ship would make two trips to the Americas on consecutive years? Or, did they normally need more time to refit and prepare for the next trip? The info in the newspaper article seems strangely precise for man in his 90s (dates, numbers, etc.). So, naturally I am skeptical. Les Beaty, L-20 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nelda, I had thought that the immigration records on Ancestry required the deluxe membership (I have the basic membership). But, I just went there and apparently not. Anyway, I clicked on Immigration Records and then put in Consbrook in the Name of Ship block on the search page and got New Orleans passenger lists (1820-1945) for 5 trips of the Consbrook to New Orleans. What is peculiar is that there were a total of 71 passengers listed for those 5 trips. Perhaps they made other stops along the Atlantic coast and dropped off passengers. But, I think my question was answered by this exercise. The five trips were: 16 Jan 1828 3 Jan 1832 13 Dec 1832 13 Feb 1835 18 Feb 1837 Two trips made in 1832. The write up on Ancestry says, "A ship could make several voyages throughout the year, making several stops along way." The 'stops' refers to points of departure. Their example was a ship that might originate in Germany, make a stop in Liverpool, England, before heading to America. The port of departure would be listed as Liverpool even though a German immigrant might be on board. This example was just a heads-up to people searching for a German immigrant ancestor. So, I guess a ship could, and did, make more than one trip per year. My apologies to Karl. I wanna be like him!!!!!! Les L-20

I also make no claim to expertise on ship maintenance in the early days, but I have read accounts of ships on long voyages. In these historical books, ships made port calls for maintenance such as re-caulking during the voyage thus I find some credence to the original question. TomBeatty, 199 --- Nacelod@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/1/2007 12:45:07 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > Jbeatty@acpl.lib.in.us writes: > > Les. > > My opinion is that it is highly likely that the ship > made a couple of > voyages a year. Considering that it took six to > eight weeks each way, > that is more than enough time for a ship to make two > voyages a year. I > am not a nautical expert, but I suspect that ships > were refitted at > longer intervals. You might check with the staff of > the Peabody Museum > in Salem, Massachusetts, which has one of the > premier nautical > collections in the nation. > > John > > > > There is also _MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com_ > (mailto:MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com) which > has list members who know a lot about Salem and > Essex County, eh? I do not > know from the above what is the name or nature of > the ship you are asking > about; nonetheless, I am sure if you write to the > web site,t above, someone > (there may not be zillions but many) will steer > your appropriately. Thanks. Don > Beattie in Winthrop, ME. > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > When replying to a digest message, quote only the > specific message to which you are replying, removing > the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that > it coincides with the message subject to which you > are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

May 01, 07 my new e-mail address will be: donavan@netwtc.net As soon as I figure out how to change it. <LOL> Donna L-3 Do I need to contact someone to have the changes made for BP2000?

Hi Les, I was going to try to find your ship for you at ancestry.com.. but couldn't figure out how to look for ships.. Anyway... My 3rd cousin Karl Marx Bonstein 96 yrs old who just died this last spring would have taken offense.. His mind was very sharp and his memory when he discussed the past was unfailing.. So perhaps your Beatty was sharp minded too.. Nelda's websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: <lbeaty@higherspeed.net> Reply-To: bp2000@rootsweb.com To: "BP2000" <BP2000@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BP2000] Question about Ships Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:51:24 -0600 All, I have a question (maybe more than one) for an immigration/ship expert. I have a newspaper 'bio' about a William Brown. According to the article, he said that he left Belfast, Ireland on April 3, 1840 on board the "Consbrook, a sailing vessel, and with 364 fellow passengers." He landed in Canada and then went to Chicago and on to Iowa. The article was published in 1908, so William was up in years when it was written. Thus, his memory might be foggy. There is a record of the Consbrook sailing from Belfast to Canada in May 1839 with 308 passengers. But, no 1840 record has been found. I haven't checked the "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" down at the library yet. But, my question is, is it likely that a ship would make two trips to the Americas on consecutive years? Or, did they normally need more time to refit and prepare for the next trip? The info in the newspaper article seems strangely precise for man in his 90s (dates, numbers, etc.). So, naturally I am skeptical. Les Beaty, L-20 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John.  Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline

Hi, I recieved this website URL and went and looked... It is a pay site, as hard as research in Ireland is....any way I searched Beatty https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_main.cfm#Counties Your Search Criteria has returned : 1991 Baptism/Birth Record(s). 299 Marriage Record(s). 256 Census Record(s). 157 Griffiths Valuation Record(s). 148 Tithe Applotments Record(s). Might want to look at it for any of your Irish Ancestors.... Regards Nelda Nelda's websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01

All, I have a question (maybe more than one) for an immigration/ship expert. I have a newspaper 'bio' about a William Brown. According to the article, he said that he left Belfast, Ireland on April 3, 1840 on board the "Consbrook, a sailing vessel, and with 364 fellow passengers." He landed in Canada and then went to Chicago and on to Iowa. The article was published in 1908, so William was up in years when it was written. Thus, his memory might be foggy. There is a record of the Consbrook sailing from Belfast to Canada in May 1839 with 308 passengers. But, no 1840 record has been found. I haven't checked the "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" down at the library yet. But, my question is, is it likely that a ship would make two trips to the Americas on consecutive years? Or, did they normally need more time to refit and prepare for the next trip? The info in the newspaper article seems strangely precise for man in his 90s (dates, numbers, etc.). So, naturally I am skeptical. Les Beaty, L-20

Hello Les, Wilma R. Pinckley is my 1st Cousin, once removed. In her book you referenced, she is reporting the family history as told to her by her grandmother, Lucy Catherine Beaty Reagan(1840), my greatgrandmother, and daughter of Issac Beaty(1803). According to current BP2000 data, this passed-down family history may not be totally accurate. However,it may be that DNA testing will ultimately show that these passed down tales contained more truth than we currently think Joel Peavyhouse L-2F. ----- Original Message ----- From: <lbeaty@higherspeed.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] martin beaty > The book mentioned is titled: > > MOUNTAIN HISTORY AS I RESCUED IT (Book #5), Wilma R. Pinckley, 1990, 86 > pictures with history, 140 pages, paperback > > It is available from > > FENTRESS COURIER > P. O. Box 1198 > Jamestown, TN 38556-1198 > > The cost: $8.00 + $0.68 sales tax and $2.00 postage. > > This comes from http://www.fentressco.com/historical.html > > Apparently Ms. Pinckley wrote several history books about Fentress County. > I can't comment of their accuracy. > > Les Beaty L-20 > > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

PML FIND FOR YOUR INFO: ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Jenny Bakken" <jlbakken@telus.net> To: nelda_percival@hotmail.com Subject: PML Search Result matching Beatty Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:43:43 -0600 Source: CHANNEL-ISLANDS@rootsweb.com Subject: [CI] Beatty/Elizabeth College Thank you so very much Ray. Not only did you give me info on Frederick BEATTY attending Elizabeth College, but much welcomed info on his service in the Military. I knew he received a commission in the 90th Infantry as a gift on behalf of his fathers wounds incurred at the Battle of Waterloo. But I could not find out if he ever went in to the 90th and certainly did not know of his transfer to the 10th. Fredericks life has been a strong brick wall for me in our family history, but now I have something else to research and hopefully someday I will find out where he spent the rest of his life and when it ended. Thanks again, Jenny in Canada _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07

The book mentioned is titled: MOUNTAIN HISTORY AS I RESCUED IT (Book #5), Wilma R. Pinckley, 1990, 86 pictures with history, 140 pages, paperback It is available from FENTRESS COURIER P. O. Box 1198 Jamestown, TN 38556-1198 The cost: $8.00 + $0.68 sales tax and $2.00 postage. This comes from http://www.fentressco.com/historical.html Apparently Ms. Pinckley wrote several history books about Fentress County. I can't comment of their accuracy. Les Beaty L-20

Ran into this NJ Beatty on Ancestry. Another elusive early NJ family. Possibly James, David and John are brothers and children of John & Elizabeth. Does anyone have a lineage? Donna L-3 A Genealogical Record of the Descendants of Benjamin Chamberlin of Sussex co., New Jersey 1907 III Benjamin C. Talmadge, b. February 10, 1796; m. Jane Mowerson. He was a private in Second New Jersey Regiment from September 5, 1814 to December 4, 1814. Carpenter. Lived near Stockholm, N. J. Meth. Ep. Child.: Jacob, Benjamin, Noah, Betsey, Elias, Cornelius, Lvdia, Jane. (His children: my explanation) IV Jacob Talmadge, dead. 1898; m. Parmelia Card. She was b. 1825; d. November 23, 1899. Farmer. Child: Israel, David, Katie. Walter, Edward, Stephen. Arminda, John, Nancy. IV. Jane Talmadge, dead.; married. James Beatty, dead. Farmer. Child.,Sarah, Lydia, John, Jane, Phebe, Julia, Emma, Noah, Jacob. (Sarah Talmadge Beatty Children & grandchildren-my explanation) V. Sarah Beatty m. William Sisco, dead. Res., Paterson, N. J. Children.: James,Irene, William, Charles, John, Edward, Thomas. VI. James Sisco, m. Mary Piersqn. P.O., Hamburg, N. J. Child.: Sarah, James, Myrtle, Raymond, Mary, Pearl, Ruby d., Stephen. VII. Sarah Sisco m. Jacob Winters. (See Jacob Winters' family) VII. James SISCO m.: Mary StraIt. P. 0., Hamburg, N.J. V. Lydia Beatty m. Elias Willis, d. Child: Edward d., David d. She m. second husband, Giles Sisco. P.O., Stockholm, N. J. Child.: Betsey, George, Giles, Enos, Harry. VI. Betsy Jane Sisco m. Alexander Richie. Res., Paterson, N.J. Child.: (VII) Peter, Rettie. VI. George Sisco m. Maggie Mowerson, P. O. Pompton N. J. Child.: (VII) Herbert, May, Roy d. VI. Giles Sisco m. Eliza Mowerson. P.O., Stockholm, N. J. Child.: (VII) David, John, Bessie. VI. Enos Sisco m. Lulu Berry. Child.: (VII) Bessie. VI. Harry Sisco. V. John M. Beatty m. Elizabeth Norman. P.O., Hamburg, N. J. Child.: (VI) _ d.,_ d., Marcus. V. Jane Beatty, d.; m. William Willis. Child.: Frances. Vi. Frances Willls m. Edward Lozier. V. Phebe Beatty m. William Willis. P.O., Odgensburg, N. J. Child.: (VI) James, William, Phebe, Julia, Daniel, &c. V. Julia Beatty m. John Dobbins. P.O., Newton, N. J. V. Emma Beatty m. Daniel Tinkey. V. Noah Beatty d. young. V. Jacob Beatty m. Emma Teeter. P.O Newton, N. J. etc. ........................ IV. Lydia Talmadge, d.; m. Abraham Poulison, d. Farmer. Meth. Ep. Child.: Pluma, Levi. V. Pluma Poulison, d.; m. Edward Totten. P.O., Hamburg, N. J. Child.: Mary, Martha, John, Minnie, Cora, Reuben. ========================================== Jane Talmadge Beatty is dead cir. 1869 1880: Hardyston, Sussex, New Jersey Source: FHL Film 1254798 National Archives Film T9-0798 Page 57B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace James BEATY Self M W W 62 NJ Occ: Laborer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ John M. BEATY Son M S W 28 NJ Occ: Farmer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Emma BEATY Dau F S W 14 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Jacob BEATY Son M S W 11 NJ Occ: At Home Fa: NJ Mo: NJ 1880: Hardyston, Sussex, New Jersey (unknown-entered L-130) Source: FHL Film 1254798 National Archives Film T9-0798 Page 57B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace David BEATY Self M M W 76 NJ Occ: Laborer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Hannah J. BEATY Wife F M W 75 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ 1880: Hardyston, Sussex, New Jersey Source: FHL Film 1254798 National Archives Film T9-0798 Page 58C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John BEATY Self M M W 70 NJ Occ: Laborer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Sarah BEATY Wife F M W 65 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Martha J. BEATY DauL F W W 27 NJ Occ: At Home Fa: NJ Mo: NJ John W. BEATY GSon M S W 10 NJ Occ: At Home Fa: NJ Mo: NJ ================================= 1870 United States Federal Census about David Beatty Name: David Beatty Estimated birth year: abt 1804 Age in 1870: 66 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1870: Hardyston, Sussex, New Jersey Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Sparta David Beatty 66 laborer NJ Hannah J. 66 NJ hext HH Elias Willis 29 NJ Lydia F. 22 NJ David A. 2 NJ next HH James Beatty 54 NJ John 20 NJ Phebe 14 NJ Julia 10 NJ Emma C. 4 NJ Jacob F. 1 NJ next HH Wm Willis 21 NJ Mary I. 17 NJ 3 HH later John Beatty 63 NJ Sarah 55 NJ Charles 18 NJ ========================== 1860-Sussex Co ____________________________ Hardyston Beaty, James 35 m NJ Jane 35 f NJ Sarah 17 f NJ Lidia 12 f NJ John 9 m NJ James 7 m NJ Pheby 5 f NJ Sarah S 8/12 f NJ Beaty, John 50? m NJ Sara 50? f NJ William 14 m NJ Charles 8 m NJ Beaty, David 45 m NJ Jane 46 f NJ Josephine 18 f NJ Rachael 16 f NJ Cornelia 14 f NJ Margaret 10 f NJ James 21 m NJ ================================ Notice Elizabeth aged 78 living with James. His mother??? John's wife may be Sarah Morrison. 1850 Sussex co., NJ HARDISTON TWP pg. 150 Morris Morrison 40 labor 250 NJ Jane 75 NJ David Fancer 12 NJ Lydia Beatty 13 NJ HARDISTON TWP pg. 151 91 93 BEATTY JAMES 33 farm NJ Jane 26 NJ Sarah 6 NJ George 4 NJ Lydia 2 NJ Elizabeth 78 NJ John Cooper 19 laborer NJ (previous HH) Benjamin Talmadge 54 carpenter NJ Jane 52 NJ next HH 92 94 BEATTY DAVID 38 farmer NJ Jane 34 NJ Elizabeth 14 NJ James 12 NJ Josephine 10 NJ Rachel 8 NJ Cornelia 6 NJ Margaret 2 NJ next HH 93 95 BEATTY JOHN 41 farm NJ Sarah 35 NJ Lydia 13 NJ Catherine 11 NJ Morris 9 NJ Caroline 6 NJ William 4 NJ ========================= 1840 Sussex co., NJ-Hardisten George Beuty 00001-00001 4 hh later Robert Beatty 1111001-0100001 next pg. George Beatty 30101-00011 many pg.'s later Benj'm Talmadge 0100001-0200001\ 5 hh later Sam'l Beatty 210001-11001 John Cooper James Beatty 00001-ooo1 David Beatty10001-11001 John Beatty 1 m 60-70, 1 f 60-70(wife Elizabeth?) ========================== 1830 Sussex co., NJ is an alphabetical census so we don't know the neighbors. John Sr. isn't in Sussex in 1830. 1830 United States Federal Census about Benjamin Talmadge Name: Benjamin Talmadge Township: Hardyston County: Sussex State: New Jersey Benjamin Talmadge 110001-200001 George Beatty 000001-2001 Thomas Beatty 00010001-10010001 The John in Morris co., NJ might be the one??? John Beatty 01111001-00010001 James would be 13-15 David would be 15-17 John would be 20-21 Elizabeth would be 55 John should be 50-60 There is a Peter next to him but it is an alphabetical census. JAMES BATEY -???? TALMAGE (Jane Talmadge, dau of Benj.DVZ) Marriage: DEC 1839 , Passaic, New Jersey (extracted marriage record)

The documentation is pretty good on Martin. His nephew wrote this letter from Missouri. What year was the book written. Does she give a source? Usually the oldest document tends to be the most accurate. Donna L-3 Robert Beaty, living in Cooper Co., Missouri wrote a letter for pension application, here given in part. "Date April 12, 1856. My father's service in Revolutionary War, Edward Beaty, born 1756, died in Lee County Virginia 17 December 1845. Served in the Militia of Pennsylvania 1780-83--Huntindon County, Pennsylvania...Father had 2 brothers served in the same war--Richard Beaty and Robert Beaty. My father had seven brothers they are all deceased but one, living in Texas, Martin Beaty, the youngest, was a member in Congress from Kentucky several years ago." BEATY, Edward, # R683, PA Line, Sol's son Robert Beaty was aged 54 in 1856 a resident of Cooper City MO states his father (the sol) was b. 1756 and that sol d. 27 dec 1845 in Lee City VA aged 89, sol had moved to Lee City VA in 1803, at sols death he left 5 children William who d in 1855, Ann wfe of John Hogan of Cooper City MO, Rachel Wife of Alexander Bales or Balis of Handcock City TN, Robert Beaty of Cooper City MO and Elizabeth Beaty of Cooper City Mo unmarried, sol widow Nancy d in 1847, sol's son mentions uncles Robert and Martin Beaty brothers of sol xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1860 Cooper co., MO Lebanon twp. pg. 698 Robt Beaty 57 farmer 2000-1000 Pennsylvania E. 40 Virginia W. G. (m) 25 farm labor VA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Holloway" <rabeaty@multipro.com> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:52 PM Subject: [BP2000] martin beaty In a book "Mountain History as I rescuded It" by Wilma Pinckley of Fentress County Tn. on page 99 she states Martin Beaty as a brother to Alexander ,James, Andrew son's of John Beath and Margaret Montgomery. Moving to KY and the first Oil well in 1819. He died in 1856 and is buried in Owsley Co., KY near Beattysville. RH When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message