Wondering if any members from L2 group (A,B,C,D,E, F) have drawn any conclusions or thoughts about the results of DNA testing of Lines 2B 2C, 2D, 2E & 2 F. I am of the L2D--ID 31 on the charts results. On the 25 marker tests...L2D shows an exact match to 13 Beaty, Beatty,etc. and on the 67 markers results, - a genetic distance of (-1) to a L2F(ID55) and an L1 (ID94). On 67 markers a G.D. of (-2)to 4 persons inc. a L2B (1D19) and a L3 (ID 1)..have not identified the Lineage numbers on most of the testees - tho I have the names. L2D progenitor, William Beaty , - seems to have arrived in the Fentress -Clinton Co. KY area at about the same time as other Beatys (before 1800) and settled in Clinton Co. near Alexander, James, Andrew. In 1827/28 , Williams and family moved to Saline Co. MO, as did one of Alexander's sons. The relation of L2D to others of the area would be 7 generations removed and I guess that is where the 'brick wall' is. Interpreting the test results have surpassed my feeble brains...just wondering if anyone else , has any thoughts.. Marlene Beaty L2D (formerly L2C)
Browsing older copies of Smithsonian (Oct 2006 issue)re: exhibit of old rare Bible manuscripts - a mention of the ' Chester Beatty Codex from A.D. 150'.; an early example of creating the first Bibles by cutting folios frm papyrus, stitching the pages in the middle, and writing the text in long columns. The Codex is about 4 inches wide and 7 inches tall. In Wikipedia: Sir Alfred Chester Beatty (1875 - 19 Jan 1968) was born in New York City; he graduated from Columbis U. as a mining engineer. He made his fortune mining in Cripple Creek, Colo, and other mining concerns the world over. He was often called the "King of Copper". A collector from an early age, he had, by the 1940's built up a remarkable and impressive collection of Oriental and Western material. He moved his collections to Bublin, Ireland, in 1950. The Chester Beatty Library which houses the collection was moved to Dublin Castle from Shrewsbury road in 2000. Knighted in 1954, Beatty was made an honorary citizen of Ireland in 1957, and on his death in 1968, he was accorded a state funeral --the only private citizen in Irish history to receive such an Honour. He is buried in Gilasnevin Cemetery.
Marlene, You might want to post your message on GenMatch, too. Some of the members of GenMatch are not members of BP-2000 (on the BP-2000 list). I am convinced there is an explanation lying in wait. Les
Laurel, This Franklin County is probably in Alabama. That county was created in 1818. There is both a Russellville and a Whitesburg in Franklin County, Alabama. Les L-20
Toronto Star, February 15, 1917, page 2 Wanted No Hearse Thos. Battye Asked For As Inexpensive a Funeral As Possible Thomas Battye, a machinist, died on the 5th of this month, leaving $1,674, made up of a lot on Hillsdale Avenue worth $600, a $714 mortgage, $170 household goods and $52 in other personal property. His will expressly provides that the expenses of his funeral shall be as small as possible, with no hearse or trappings but merely "an undertaker's wagon and plain box for my body." He further directs that no sermon or discourse is to be given at his funeral, but only the 15th chapter of Corinthians is to be read. A full burial plot is to be bought in the Prospect Cemetery, and his mother's body is to be taken up from another part of the cemetery and buried beside his own. A tombstone with a specified inscription and verse is to be placed over the graves. The sum of $200 is left to the Sunday School of Bleeker Street Baptist Church, Utica, N. Y., where the deceased learned his lessons as a boy, from 1853 to 1860. The Broad Street Baptist Church, Utica, where he also went to Sunday School, benefits by $200 for its Sunday School. The hospital for sick children and the Home for Incurable children, Bloor Street, Toronto are both left $200. The Home for Incurable children gets his hair chain with a ring and gold dollar attached and also his collection of stamps. The Public Library in Utica is to get some of the best books in his collection. The residue of his estate is to be divided equally among his nieces and nephews Sara Lucas, Hilda and Henry Battye of Toronto and George Lucas of Ottowa. 1901 Census of Canada 1901 Census of Canada Name: Thomas Battye Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 56 Birth Date: 6 Aug 1844 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Anna Mother's name: Sarah Immigration Year: 1848 Racial or Tribal Origin: English Nationality: Canadian Religion: Baptist Occupation: Wood Work Mach Province: Ontario DISTRICT: Toronto (West/Ouest) (City/Cité) District Number: 118 Sub-District: Toronto (West/Ouest) (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 6 Sub-District Number: D-10 Family Number: 23 Page: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Battye 56 Anna Battye 49 Sarah Battye 78 [mother] Geo Lueras 28 [Nephew] Sarah Lueras 24 [Niece] Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1901 Census of Canada [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: Library and Archives Canada. Census of Canada, 1901. Ottawa, Canada: Library and Archives Canada. RG31, T-6428 to T-6556. 1911 Census of Canada 1911 Census of Canada Name: Sarah Dusan Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 35 Birth Date: Jan 1876 Birthplace: Ontario Family Number: 75 Relation to Head of House: Niece Tribal: English Province: Ontario DISTRICT: Toronto West District Number: 128 Sub-District: Ward 6 Sub-District Number: 110 Place of Habitation: 72 Road Ave Census Year: 1911 Page: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Battye 67 Emma Marie Battye 57 Sarah Battye 88 [mother] Sarah Dusan 35 [niece, looks like Lucas to me] Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 Census of Canada [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: Library and Archives Canada. Census of Canada, 1911. Ottawa, Canada: Library and Archives Canada. Microfilm reels T-20326 to T-20460. Laurel Baty, L252
A friend sent this Nelda Hello, I don't know if you'd be interested in this or not, but there is an 1866 North Sewickly, PA letter written by son James to mother Mrs. Susan Beaty of Delaware Grove, Mercer county, PA that is for auction on www.ebay.com. For more details and a photo see: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140137905782 Anyway, good luck with your genealogy, G.T. Bishop _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com
Thanks Laurel, Dear members, I have a hotmail address, as such; you need to add me on your accept list... as some ISP's will not allow a hotmail address to their email addresses. (Send or recieve) As such, they bounce back to the list, this causes the member to bounce off the list. So, if you don't want to bounce off the list add my addy to your accept list. Now.... Unless there is a message in today's email (at present is over 245) which I am checking presently and it has something in the subject line that allerts me it is from BP2000 I may not read it.. AS I do not read anything but interesting subject lines. Of course if you email me at the ADMIN ADDRESS I read all that come in that way.. So if you want to contact me as the list admin then mail it to the list admin.. or state you need me or ?? in the subject line... So far as I know I haven't gotten email from Dave Leavenworth Lineage 179.. He may need to resubscribe. Nelda Nelda's websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ Remember me in the family tree, my name, my ways, my strife,then I'll fly upon the wings of time, and live an endless life..GOETSCH _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507
I received this message from David Leavenworth this morning. Can anyone help him? Here is his email address: davidwl@seanet.com I think his email must have been dropped from the mailing list. Laurel Baty, L252 Hi Laurel, I am sending this to you as a last resort. I have been sending data about various Beaty names to the list for some time, not often, but several times. My last two or three messages never were added to the list and my messages were returned to me as "Message Refused." I contacted Ray, who suggested contacting Nelda, which I did, but I have not seen the data I sent her appear on the list, nor did I get an answer from Nelda. I do extraction of microfilmed records and whenever I find a Beaty name I send the data to the list. Right now I am doing death records in the 1950 1951 time frame in South Carolina and in Tennessee. Here is the Tennessee record I sent to Nelda. Tennessee Death Certificate # 51-10382 Jane Smith, age 71y, died 12 May 1951 in Manson, Fentress, Tenn. Born 31 Mar 1880 in Manson, Fentress, Tenn. Dau. of Unknown father and Lyda BEATY Informant Geo. W. Smith of Manson Bur. 19 May in Beaty Cem. Fentress Co. Tenn. Funeral Director Looper & Qualls of Jamestown, Tenn. ------------------------------------------------------ Here is one I extracted today. South Caroline Death Certificate #50-013502 Seneca, Ocanee Co. S. C. Lou Ellen W. Beatey d. 3 Oct. 1950 age 78y She was born 26 Nov (no year given) in Hall Co. Ga. and was the wife of J. C. Beatey, deceased. Information was given by Mrs. Gus Beatey. Lou Ellen is buried in Double Springs Bapt. Cem. In Anderson Co. S. C. McDougal - Johnston Funerla Home of Anderson S. C. may have additional information. Thanks for any help in posting this to the group. Dave Leavenworth Lineage 179
I noticed a gravestone in Watcarrick Churchyard that mentions 2 Beatties who died in America [Robert (1827) and Michael (1828) Beattie died in Franklin County, North America (State not given, towns are Russellville and Whitsburgh, both Franklin County). Does anyone recognize them? Sheila Hale of L236 [her lineage has ties to Dumfriesshire and a Beattie cousin recently submitted a sample to the DNA project, ID 108, results posted] has posted a transcription of many Beatties buried in Dumfriesshire. This transcription can be found in the BP2000 Cemetery Archives for Scotland, Dumfriesshire, Eskdalemuir Parish: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/cemetery/index.htm 43 In memory William Beattie died at Fingland June 16th, 1776 aged 74 years. Also Ewphan Bettie his spouse October 19 1780 aged 69 years. And James their son died July 27th, 1805 aged 54 years. Also Walter Beattie their grandson who died March 21st, 1793 aged 8 years Reverse side 43 44 In Memory of William Beattie shepherd in Fingland died there 24th June, 1825 aged 74 years. Also Isabel Anderson his spouse died at Fingland February 3rd, 1830 aged 75 years. Also William Beattie stocking maker, their son who was drowned in Garwald water 21st, June 1813 aged 30 years.Also James Beattie shepherd in Fingland their son ,died there January 27th, 1825 aged 27 years. Also Robert Beattie their son who died at Whitsburgh, Franklin County, North America, April 18th, 1827 aged 35 years. Also Michael died at Russelville said county 22nd November, 1828 aged 41 years. Also Walter their son shepherd at Fingland died 12th December, 1835 aged 40 years. Also Mary his daughter who died 5th February, 1836 aged 17 months. Laurel Baty, L252
Info from the 1880 census for Armstrong County, PA is misleading. It reads: Census Place: Manorville, Armstrong, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255096 National Archives Film T9-1096 Page 278B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Sarah A. BEATY Self F W W PA Occ: Keep House Fa: PA Mo: PA Simon Z. BEATY Son M S W 22 PA Occ: Wagon Maker Fa: PA Mo: PA William G. BEATY Son M S W 19 PA Occ: Labor Fa: PA Mo: PA Mary M. BEATY Dau F S W 17 PA Occ: Home Fa: PA Mo: PA Adanam R. BEATY Son M S W 13 PA Occ: Home Fa: PA Mo: PA Jas. H. BEATY Son M S W 11 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Joseph C. BEATY Son M S W 4 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA I have done extensive research and there is NO James H. Beatty or Joseph C. Beatty in this family. The family in the above record is the family of Robert Beatty (son of William and Isabella Caldwell) and his wife Sarah Grim (daughter of George). One of his daughters, Elizabeth Jane Beatty, married Joseph C. McBride. Joseph died before 1880. Elizabeth is a widow that year and working as a servant for a family in Allegheny County. They had 4 children, 3 living in 1880 but none were living with the family. Ida Belle McBride is living with cousins in Millvale, Allegheny County, PA. But I could not locate the other two children. These two are James Hamilton McBride, born in 1869 and Joseph C. McBride, born in 1876. The James H. Beatty and Joseph C. Beatty are actually the two missing McBrides. The census taker got the surname wrong. Robert and Sarah did have a son, James, but he was born much earlier than 1869. Also, Simon Z. Beatty is Simon Q. Beatty and Adanam is Adnum, named for the husband of one of Sarah's sisters. Linda M. (Lineage 132)
The following early deed for Watcarrick in Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, Scotland was given to the Beattie DNA Tour group by the current owner of the property-a very friendly man who stopped his work to answer our questions about the property. The copy was transcribed and did not have a book or page number. The current owner expects to sell the property in the next few years-and if I had 400,000 pounds I would buy it! It is a beautiful peaceful area steeped in history. I asked if he had ever searched for the mysterious tunnel rumored to exist between the Watcarrick cemetery and the house. He said he lifted some stones in the cellar and even dug a bit but was unable to locate it. What fun it would be to research the history of this old house. The countryside around the home is remarkably undeveloped and it is easy to imagine what it must have looked like hundreds of years ago. The deed shows that the property was purchased in 1798 by William Beattie and then passed to his only living child, daughter Mary Beattie Bell, at the death of William Beattie in 1806. Gravestones in the old Watcarrick Graveyard show several Beatties residing at Watcarrick prior to the purchase of the land by William Beattie in 1798: Here lyes John Beattie tenant in Watcerick who departed this life March 14 1718 of age 56 years. And Mary Pott his spouse who departed this life June 1 1719 of age 50 year. In memory of Walter Beatty who died at Craig 6th May, 1752 aged 73 years. Also Marion Black his spouse who died at Watcarrick December 6 17_9 aged 89 years. Also John Beatty their son who died at Watcarrick February 4th, 1766 aged 35 years. Also Walter Beattie son to William Beattie in Watcarrick who died February 7th 1769 aged ---- months. Also Margaret Beattie his daughter who died August 24th 1782 aged 12 years. Also in memory of William Beatty, William died at Fingland November 15th, 1800 aged 76 years. Also Anne Scott his spouse who also died at Fingland 28th May, 1801 aged 69 years. Also Elizabeth Beattie, daughter of Walter Beattie who died at Hollin December 12th, 1824 aged 88 years. [From "Memorial Inscriptions of Watcarrick and Eskdalemuir Churchyards" compiled by Brenda I. Morrison, Cairndhu Publications, 2007.] Transcribed deed to Watcarrick: In the name of God be it known to all men by this present Public Instrument that upon the Ninth day of September in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Six and in the reign of our Sovereign King George III by the grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland King, defender of the faith the Forty sixth year in the presence of me Notary Public and the witnesses subscribing appeared personally upon the ground of the lands aftermentioned, John Riddell in _______ as Procurator and Attorney for Mary Beattie, daughter of the Deceased William Beattie in Tunyland of Lord James Scott at Enzieholm whose power of procuratory was sufficiently known to me the said Notary Public where appeared also personally William Martin in ______ in that part specially constituted by virtue of the Precept of Sasine called a Precept of Clare Constat after inscribed the said John Riddell having and holding in his hands a Charter of Confirmation of date the Second day of June (?) containing the Precept of Sasine commonly called a Precept of Clare Constat of ______ made and granted by Hugh Warrander, Writer to the Signet commissioned specially by his grace Harry, Duke of Buccleugh, Earl of Dalkeith and Doncaster, Lord Scott of Whilchester and Eskdale, Superior of the lands and others aftermentioned conform to the said Duke's Confirmation in his favour dated the Twenty-sixth and registered in the Books of Council and Session the Twenty seventh day of January Seventeen Hundred and Ninety eight where by the said Hugh Warrander is specially empowered to enter the Vassals of the said Duke and to grant Charters and all other writings and necessary _____ to the lands of Scotland more fully mentioned in the said Commission; By which Charter of Confirmation the said Hugh Warrander as Commissioner foresaid ratified, approved and for the said Duke his lands of Scotland perpetually confirmed and _____ dated the Twenty first day of May Seventeen Hundred and Sixty eight and registered in the Commissary Court Books of Dumfries Twenty sixth day of May thereafter made and granted by Elizabeth Burgof of Wattcarrick heritable proprietors of and vassal to the said Duke in the lands and others aftermentioned whereby she sold and disponed to the said William Beattie and his heirs, successors and disponees whomsoever, heritably and irredeemably ALL and WHOLE the lands of Watcarrick and lands of Dunning which are a part of the said lands of Watcarrick with houses, biggings, yards, lofts, crofts, communities, common pasturages in fields and fields, mosses, moores, meadows _____ and whole pertinents thereto belonging lying within the Parish and Lordship of Eskdalamuir, Barrony of Dumfedling and Shire of Dumfries with the teinds both parsonage and vicorage of the said whole lands together with the obligations to infeft a me and Precept of Sasine contained in the said Disposition and Instrument of Sasine following thereon in favour of the said William Beattie dated the Seventeenth day of August Seventeen Hundred and Ninety eight and registered in the particular Register of Sasines kept at Dumfries the Twenty-seventh day of September thereafter and that in the whole ____ articles, clauses _____ and contents of the said writs as the said Charter of Confirmation containing the said Precept of Sasine called a Precept of Clare Constat after described; Which Charter containing the said Precept of Sasine called the Precept of Clare Constat the said Attorney of ______ and prescribed to the said _____ him to proceed to the due execution of the Office of Bailiary thereby committed to him which the said Bailie found reasonable and the said Charter containing the said precept into his hands and deliver the same to me Notary Public subscribing to be read and published with the said witnesses and others present which I accordingly did and of which Precept of Sasine called a Precept of Clare Constat _____ follows:- And whereas by the _____ above confirmed and other authentic instruments and documents produced to read, seen and considered by me it clearly appears and is made known that the said William Beattie in Tungland father of ___ Mary Beattie ____ of the tenant James Scott at Enzieholm bearer hereof died last week and has _____ as the faith and peace of our Sovereign Lord the King in ALL and WHOLE the said lands of Watcarrick, the houses, biggings, yards, lofts, crofts, common pastures, infields, outfields, mosses, Moores, meadows, pastures and whole pertinents thereto belonging lying within the Parish and lands of Easkdalemuir, Barony of Dumfelding and Shire of Dumfries with the teinds both parsonage and vicarage of the said whole lands and that the said Mary Beattie ____ hereof is the only child now in life of the said William Beattie _____ and lawful heir of her said father in the lands and others foresaid and that she is of lawful age, and that the said _____ and holder of and under the said Harry Duke of _____ is heirs and successors , assignees , lawful superiors thereof in feu farm, feu and heritage for ever for the yearly payment of ___ feu ___ under written ____ for the said lands of Watcarrick and Dunning with the pertinents the sum of Two Hundred and Seventy marks Scots money in name of feuduty at the term of Whitsunday yearly and doubling the said feuduty first year of the entry of each heir or heirs to the foresaid lands ____ is of feu farm providing ____ the life as by the land hereof is provided and declared that a non payment of the said feu farm duties for the space of two or more years running together shall be no cause of nullity or reduction of the present infeftment and any acts, laws, statues, constitutions made or to be made in the contrary notwithstanding where anent as commissioner aforesaid for the said Duke and his heirs and successors have disponed without prejudice _____ to the said Duke and his heirs and successors by themselves or their officers, commissioners and factors without process or _____ of any judge to poind and distrain the good and moveables upon the ground of the said lands for the time for the said feuduty that shall happen to be unpaid for the time and that in all time coming or to call, convene or prosecute for payment of the said feu farm duty ____ the said duke and his foresaids shall as also the said Mary Beattie and her heirs and assignees compering and [line cut off] Beholden ____ the said duke and his successors or _____ within the Barony of Dumfelding when the said Mary Beattie and her foresaids shall be lawfully warned and required thereto by the Officer of the said Barony and that in so far as such comperances at head courts or not now abolished by law - as also the said Mary Beattie and her foresaids and their tenants and pocessers of the lands with pertinents shall be ____ to any of the said duke's within the bounds of the said Barony of Dumfelding lying nearest to the said lands and to bring their grain growing upon the ground of the said lands which shall happen to suffer fire and water to the mill belonging to the said Duke and his foresaids lying nearest to the said lands there to be grinded and to pay therefore four cupfuls of ___ for every boll of the with the sequels and nave ship and other duties and services usual as the other feuars of the said Barony all have been in use to pay or perform and if their said grain or any part suffering fire and water shall be from his said mill that then and that they shall so obliged to pay to the said Duke and his foresaids ____ and other duties foresaid for the haill, grain so abstracted as also it is provided that if any question or controversay shall arise anent the ____ and marches of the said lands and then and in that all the said Dukes and his foresaids shall be at liberty to ____ and place the marches of the said lands which the said Mary Beattie and her foresaids shall be obliged to obscive and implement in all time coming; And for the said teinds of the said lands the sum of Thirty merks yearly at which time the said teinds are valued by the former rights and infeftments at the said terms of Whitsunday without doubling the said feuduty at the entry of each heir or heirs to the said lands; And that for all other burdens ___ questions, demand or _____ which can be any way or asked or required _____ of the said lands with the pertinents therefore I hereby as Commissioner aforesaid ____ and each of your conjointly and severally the said Dukes, Bailies to the effect after specified that upon sight hereof ____ to the ground of the lands and others foresaid and there give and deliver heritable state and sasine actual real and corporal possession to the said Mary Beattie as heir aforesaid of ALL and WHOLE the foresaids lands of Watcarrick and Dumming with the teinds and pertinents of the same above written and to beholden as said is and that by delivery ament to her or her certain attorney in her name bearer hereof of earth and stone of and upon the ground of the said lands a handful of grass and ____ for the said teinds and all other symbols recquisite and this in no ways yue leave undone, for doing whereon I commit to you full power by this by precept saving and reserving always the bygone and current feuduties; Saving also the ____ own right and the right of all others according to IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have subscribed these presents written upon this and the two preceding pages of stamped vellum by Campbell Gardner, my Clerk at Edinburgh the Second day of June in the year Eighteen and Six before these witnesses John Home, Writer in Edinburgh and the Writer in Minburgh and the John Home (Witness) Haugh Warrander Campbell Gardner (Witness) After reading and publishing of which Charter and Precept of Sasines called a Precept of Clare Constat hereincontained and ____ the said Bailie by virtue thereof and of the office of Bailiery thereby committed to him gave and delivered heritable state and sasine actual real and corporal recession to the said Mary Bell as heir aforesaid of ALL and WHOLE the foresaid lands of Watcarrick and Dunning with the teinds and pertinents of the same above written and to beholden as said is and thereby deliverance to the said attorney in her name of earth and stone of and upon the ground of the said lands and a handful of grass and ____ for the said teinds as ____ is after the form and line o the said Precept in all points whereupon and upon all and sundry the _____ the said attorney asked and took instruments in the hands of me Notary Public _____ these things were done upon the ground of the said lands between the hours of five and six afternoon of the day of the month and year of God and Kings reign respectively first above written before and in presence of Thomas Bell of _____ and James Glen Dinning in Watcarrick with missives to the _____ specially called and registered and hereto with me subscribing 1841 Scotland Census 1841 Scotland Census Name: William Beattie Age: 84 Estimated birth year: abt 1757 Gender: Male Where born: Dumfriesshire, Scotland Civil parish: Eskdalemuir County: Dumfriesshire Address: Watcarrick Occupation: Ind Parish Number: 824 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Beattie 23 John Beattie 30 Rachel Beattie 1 William Beattie 84 Mary Bell 70 [Proprietress, farmer] Jessie Byers 19 Richard Linton 13 Isabella Scott 20 Jean Ward 20 Source Citation: Parish: Eskdalemuir; ED: 2; Year: 1841. Probate Record of Mary Beattie Bell of Watcarrick [This is a very long record. I will attempt to summarize a small portion of the record.] At Watcarrick the nineteenth day of May Eighteen hundred and forty six years.Mrs. Mary Beattie or Bell died upon the tenth day of January last." "Mrs. Mary Beattie of Watcarrick daughter of the deceased William Beattie in Fingland and widow of the deceased Captain James Scott at ??holm and afterward of John Bell of Caruthers for the favor and affection I have and bear to John Scott in Watcarrick, my only surviving son, [grants lands and estate including "my lands of Watcarrick and lands of Dunning" providing John Scott pay to James Scott "son of the deceased James Scott my eldest son." "I moreover leave to Elizabeth Scott daughter of my late son James Scott the sum of fifty pounds sterling." [A long section follows which mentions a trust deed that John Scott (now deceased) made in favor of his wife Margaret Brown or Scott and children James and Margaret Scott. Also mentions "James Scott, my grandson presently in New South Wales son of the deceased James Scott my eldest son and Elizabeth Scott or Beattie residing at Watcarrick spouse of John Beattie residing there, natural daughter of the said James Scott."] 1851 Scotland Census 1851 Scotland Census Name: John Morrison Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Stoffat, Dumfries Parish Number: 824 Civil parish: Eskdalemuir County: Dumfriesshire Address: Watcarrick Occupation: Farmer (exten Of Land Not Stated) (employing 3 Labourers) ED: 2 Page: 6 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 18 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1851_207 Household Members: Name Age Agness Anderson 70 Violet Elliot 19 Agness Morrison 15 Catherine Morrison 4 Ellen Morrison 6 Isabella Morrison 40 Isabella Morrison 8 Jean Morrison 11 John Morrison 42 John Morrison 13 Margaret Morrison 1 David Scott 22 Source Citation: Parish: Eskdalemuir; ED: 2; Line: 1; Year: 1851. 1861 Scotland Census 1861 Scotland Census Name: Andrew Beattie Age: 72 Estimated birth year: abt 1789 Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Isabel Gender: Male Where born: Westerkirk, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 824 Registration district: Eskdalemuir Civil parish: Eskdalemuir County: Dumfriesshire Address: Watcarrick Occupation: Farmer ED: 2 Page: 4 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 18 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_143 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Beattie 72 Helen Beattie 35 Isabel Beattie 70 William Beattie 27 Joan Irving 18 Source Citation: Parish: Eskdalemuir; ED: 2; Line: 21; Year: 1861 Probate record of Andrew Beattie "Watcarrick March 20, 1866. This paper contains an account of the way and manner of which I Andrew Beattie Farmer Watcarrick wish my effects to be disposed of at my decease after all my lawful debts are paid I wish my effects disposed of in the following manner. The whole of the stock crop and chattels belonging to me to be valued and the amount to be lodged in the National Bank of Scotland and my wife Isobel Jackson to receive the interest thereof during her lifetime and at her decease the amount to be equally divided between my son William Beattie and my daughter Helen Beattie and my daughter Margaret Beattie to receive the sum of fifteen pounds sterling which shall be paid on equal parts by my aforementioned son and daughter William Beattie & Helen Beattie. This I do on the twentieth of March One Thousand Eight Hundred sixty and six years (signed) Andrew Beattie and Isabel Jackson. N. B. My son and daughter William Beattie and Helen Beattie agreeing to this do hereby affix their signatures (signed) William Beattie, Helen Beattie, William Riddell Witness John Bell Witness. In Memory of Andrew Beattie tenant in Watcarrick who died June 10th 1866 aged 78 years. Also Isabella Jackson his wife who died at Watcarrick 15th October 1875 aged 86 years. Also Jane Beattie their daughter who died at Elliotfield February 10th 1832 aged 18 years. Also Walter Beattie their son who died at Elliotfield January 20th, 1832 aged 5 years. Also Agnes Beattie their daughter who died at Fingland January 20th, 1843 aged 24 years. Also a 2nd Walter their son who died at Fingland July 4th, 1849 aged 13 years. Also Hellen Beattie their daughter who died at Howgill May 24th 1894 aged 71 years. [From "Memorial Inscriptions of Watcarrick and Eskdalemuir Churchyards" compiled by Brenda I. Morrison, Cairndhu Publications, 2007.] 1871 Scotland Census 1871 Scotland Census Name: William Beattie Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relationship: Head Mother's name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Cavers, Roxburghshire Registration Number: 824 Registration district: Eskdalemuir Civil parish: Eskdalemuir County: Dumfriesshire Address: Watcarrick Occupation: Farmer Of 450 Acres Of Which 60 Arable Employing 2 Labarder ED: 2 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 35 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_183 Household Members: Name Age Helen Beattie 45 Isabella Beattie 82 William Beattie 39 Robert Bell 20 Eliza Dobie 24 Source Citation: Parish: Eskdalemuir; ED: 2; Line: 1; Year: 1871. 1881 Scotland Census 1881 Scotland Census Name: Simon Beattie Age: 72 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Janet Gender: Male Where born: Westerkirk, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 824 Registration district: Eskdalemuir Civil parish: Eskdalemuir County: Dumfriesshire Address: Watcarrick Farm Occupation: Farmer (Of 1000 Acres 55 Arable ED: 2 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 34 Line: 1 Roll: cssct1881_322 Household Members: Name Age Janet Beattie 65 Jesse Beattie 42 Mary Beattie 25 Simon Beattie 72 Simon Beattie 30 Thomasina Beattie 36 William Beattie 27 John Wilson 50 Source Citation: Parish: Eskdalemuir; ED: 2; Line: 1; Year: 1881. 1891 Scotland Census 1891 Scotland Census Name: Simon Beattie Age: 82 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Westerkirk, Dumfries-Shire Registration Number: 824 Registration district: Eskdalemuir Civil parish: Eskdalemuir County: Dumfriesshire Address: Watcarrick Farm Occupation: Farmer ED: 2 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 36 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1891_394 Household Members: Name Age Jassie Beattie 52 (daughter) John Beattie 16 (grandson) Simon Beattie 82 Simon Beattie 46 (son, dies single) Thomasina Beattie 46 (daughter) William Beattie 38 (son, dies single) James Scott 13 (grandson) Source Citation: Parish: Eskdalemuir; ED: 2; Line: 8; Year: 1891. Probate Record of Simon Beattie [Another long record. An inventory shows that Simon Beattie owed Mrs. Debie Enzieholm half years rent of the farm of Watcarrick to Whitsunday 1892. 125 pounds. No heirs other than William and Simon Beattie are named in the document.] An excerpt: At Lockerbie the twenty first day of July One thousand eight hundred and ninety two, in presence of Robert Nutt, Esquire one of Her Majesties Justices of the Peace for the County of Dumfries, appeared Simon Beattie Farmer, Watcarrick in the Parish of Eskdalemuir and County of Dumfries Executor of the deceased Simon Beattie Farmer at Watcarrick foresaid who being solemnly sworn and examined deposes that the said Simon Beattie died at Watcarrick foresaid domiciled in Scotland upon the seventh day of June eighteen hundred and ninety two and left lawful issue surviving. That the deponent has entered upon the possession and management of the deceased's estate along with William Beattie also farmer at Watcarrick foresaid.. In memory of Walter Beattie son of Simon Beattie who died at Dinnings 22nd December 1853 aged 8 years. Also Mary his daughter who died at Dinnings 15th July, 1849 in the 1st year of her age. Also Janet Hall his wife who died at Watcarrick 28th November 1882 aged 67 years. Also the above Simon Beattie who died 7th June 1892 aged 84 years. Also Simon their son who died at Watcarrick 24th May 1895 aged 44 years. Also Walter their son who died at Hamilton 13th August 1904 aged 46 years [died Lanarkshire, unmarried at death]. Also Jessie their daughter who died at Watcarrick 7th September 1920 aged 81 years. Also Thomasina their daughter who died at Watcarrick 11th November 1922 aged 79 years. Also Agnes their daughter who died at Langholm 28th January 1924 aged 88 years. Also William their son who died at Watcarrick 13th July 1924 aged 72 years. [From "Memorial Inscriptions of Watcarrick and Eskdalemuir Churchyards" compiled by Brenda I. Morrison, Cairndhu Publications, 2007.] Simon Beattie's (died June 7, 1892) death certificate states that his father was John Beattie and his mother Agnes Little: In memory of John Beattie tenant in Dalbeth who died November 6th, 1810 aged 44 years. Also Agnes Little his spouse who died September 21st, 1816 aged 40 years. Helen daughter to John Beattie late tenant in Dalbeth November 21st, 1804 aged 1 year. [From "Memorial Inscriptions of Watcarrick and Eskdalemuir Churchyards" compiled by Brenda I. Morrison, Cairndhu Publications, 2007.] 1901 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census Name: Thomasina Beattie Age: 56 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relationship: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Langholm, Dumfriesshire Registration Number: 824 Registration district: Eskdalemuir Civil parish: Eskdalemuir County: Dumfriesshire Address: Watearrick Occupation: Housekeeper ED: 2 Page: 6 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 29 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_430 Household Members: Name Age Jessie Beattie 62 Thomasina Beattie 56 William Beattie 48 Joseph Blackstock 23 James Scott 23 John Sproat 18 Source Citation: Parish: Eskdalemuir; ED: 2; Line: 10; Year: 1901. The current owner of Watcarrick told us that the last Beattie to live on the farm had committed suicide (ostensibly over shame at having a tape worm). Indeed, the death record of William who died July 13, 1924 at Watcarrick, shows he died of "hanging." A corrected death entry states "found dead in byre at Watcarrick Farm, Eskdalemuir Parish--cause of death hanging." William was single. He was buried at Watcarrick Chapel Cemetery. William Beattie was the last Beattie to live at Watcarrick farm. Laurel Baty, L252
Dear Cousins: I had a wonderful time in the border area of Scotland getting in touch with my "Reiver" side. I truly enjoyed getting to know the other Beaty's/Baty's/Beattie's along on our trip. We all got on very well. For me the most interesting bit of information I gained from this trip was what we learned from Mr. Miller, the current occupant of Wat Carrick. Wat Carrick is a house in the Eskdalemuir valley. It is just south of the oldest cemetery which is within the foundation of what archeologist have determined to be a Saxon church. Wat Carrick had been inhabited by Beattie's for 700 years up until the 1920's. The owner, Mr. Miller also told us of a tunnel from his house to the old Saxon church which has not been dug up as of yet. Bet we could find some very interesting information about our Beattie's from that tunnel. Probably some Reiving plunder as well. I would be interested in finding Saxon church information. It rained everytime we went to this area. The two stone circles are just across the river from the church/cemetery. Further south along the river is and ancient amphitheater inwhich a religious artifact was found in the center, giving the impression that it was used for religious purposes. Also a traditional handfasting area at the junction of the White Esk and Black Esk rivers was brought to our attention. Seem that at one time this was a busy valley. Now it is very quiet and very wet. At the bottom of the valley is the town of Langholm which on the day we visited was very friendly and open to us. We turned out to be the largest group of visitors their Historical Archive office had ever seen. In general the people of Scotland were very nice and out going to us. I think that was because they could see we had a genuine desire to know more about them and the history of the area which they love to share. I will get working on posting the pictures as soon as I can. Carol Beattie Selbiger L-438
Thanks, Nel. I agree that 36 yrs. of childbearing is definitely stretching it a bit. It will be so exciting when we discover more about the paternity of these early FC Beatys--can't wait! Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nel141@aol.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 Beatys -- BP2000 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 191 > > Hi Gerri, > The real reason the branches of L2 were separated is that there doesn't > seem > to have ever been any primary source documentation that prove them to all > be > brothers. It is possible that some of them might have been grouped > together > only because they were Beatys and lived in the same area at one time. > They > certainly might still all be brothers...but the proof hasn't been found > yet. > I'm sure the consensus of most L2 researchers is that there is probably > some > kind of family relationship between them all...or most of them at least. > > Considering the age span for L2F's James & Phoebe b. 1751/52 and their > proven but unknown older brother; L2B's Andrew b. 1761 & Alexander b. > 1768; and > L2E's John b. 1780, George b. 1783, & David b. 1787, believe the range > would be > more than 36 years and that's what gets somewhat excessive. My computer > program doesn't like using the same mother for a range of children that > broad, > but guess it might be possible although very unusual. There is no proof > that > the father of all these sons had more than one wife as is claimed in some > secondary sources -- but of course that claim is for John Beaty who was > married > to Margaret Montgomery. I believe his paternal connection with these men > has > been disproved. I'm only guessing that the same line of thought could be > transferred to William/Billy Beaty now that he has been proven to be the > father > of at least L2B Alexander & Andrew. > > Anyway, as Nelda says, "to remove arbitrarly due to differences in > ages... > not really smart is it??" No, I agree -- many other things were also > involved > -- but over 36 years of childbearing would be quite a feat even today. > There does also seem to be the possibility that some of them might have > been > arbitrarily connected in the first place due to colocation and that can > be a > problem too. > > It was hoped that the creation of the different branches of L2 would > highlight some errors of the past so they could be corrected and allow > research to > be more easily focused on each group. Hopefully, we will be able to find > information someday that will allow us to reassemble the L2 family. > > Nel Rocklein L2B > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:00:49 -0400 > From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 Beatys BP2000 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 189 > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01c7c428$7ac930d0$0402a8c0@yourt6b89spgxr> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Nel, > Yes, I do consider myself fortunate to have 3 lines of Beatys. I used to > think I was the Beaty-est person around but I know of someone else who > has 4 > lines, so I guess I can't claim that distinction anymore. : ) > Thanks for all this great info. About L2B, was it indeed the spread of > the > ages of David, George, John, Andrew & Alexander that caused them to be > discounted as all being brothers? During the early part of the 1900s & > prior to that time it wasn't unusual for women in that part of the > country > to have children over a period of 20 yrs. or more. My foster grandmother > had children over a span of 24 yrs. One woman I know of had 20 children > over a span of 28 years. So I, personally, wouldn't rule out the > possibility of the 5 of them being brothers just on the span of their > ages. > The best of luck to you with your research. > Gerri > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Willie R. Beaty wrote: > Gerri and Nel, > > I am dying to get in on this L2Beaty discussion, but I just don't have the > energy right now. Willie - I think I speak for quite a few people when I say that we're sending many Get Well wishes your way. Gerri, Nel, et al, I'm not an L2, but had a nearly identical issue with another line that was resolved by a single, three word clarification in one of the wills. Is anything like that possible here? Regards, ---Ann
Willie, You know we all wish you well... Nelda _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com
Gerri and Nel, I am dying to get in on this L2Beaty discussion, but I just don't have the energy right now. I have pnuemonia, severely aggravated arthritis and a severe medical reaction to antibiotics, and need to conserve my energy. Won't be long, though! I'm keeping most of these related emails until I can put my two cents worth in. This is a good discussion, but it seems that we are all chasing around the same "inconclusive" proof that got us to this place in the beginning. I'll be back soon. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: [BP2000] L2Beatys >I am descended from 4 L2 early Fentress Co. Beatys, all formerly thought to >be children of John Beaty & Margaret Montgomery or John and his second >wife. > My paternal Beaty line descends from 1752-3 James, L2F. One of my > maternal lines descends from his twin sister, Phoebe. Is there any > evidence as to who their parents are? Another maternal line descends from > 1758-61 Andrew, L2B. Is Billy still assumed to be his father? Another > maternal line is from 1780 John, Jr., h/o Abigail, L2E. Are his brothers > still believed to be David & George? Who is thought to be their parents? > Gerri Beaty Goodwin > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Gerri, The real reason the branches of L2 were separated is that there doesn't seem to have ever been any primary source documentation that prove them to all be brothers. It is possible that some of them might have been grouped together only because they were Beatys and lived in the same area at one time. They certainly might still all be brothers...but the proof hasn't been found yet. I'm sure the consensus of most L2 researchers is that there is probably some kind of family relationship between them all...or most of them at least. Considering the age span for L2F's James & Phoebe b. 1751/52 and their proven but unknown older brother; L2B's Andrew b. 1761 & Alexander b. 1768; and L2E's John b. 1780, George b. 1783, & David b. 1787, believe the range would be more than 36 years and that's what gets somewhat excessive. My computer program doesn't like using the same mother for a range of children that broad, but guess it might be possible although very unusual. There is no proof that the father of all these sons had more than one wife as is claimed in some secondary sources -- but of course that claim is for John Beaty who was married to Margaret Montgomery. I believe his paternal connection with these men has been disproved. I'm only guessing that the same line of thought could be transferred to William/Billy Beaty now that he has been proven to be the father of at least L2B Alexander & Andrew. Anyway, as Nelda says, "to remove arbitrarly due to differences in ages... not really smart is it??" No, I agree -- many other things were also involved -- but over 36 years of childbearing would be quite a feat even today. There does also seem to be the possibility that some of them might have been arbitrarily connected in the first place due to colocation and that can be a problem too. It was hoped that the creation of the different branches of L2 would highlight some errors of the past so they could be corrected and allow research to be more easily focused on each group. Hopefully, we will be able to find information someday that will allow us to reassemble the L2 family. Nel Rocklein L2B Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:00:49 -0400 From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 Beatys BP2000 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 189 To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000d01c7c428$7ac930d0$0402a8c0@yourt6b89spgxr> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Nel, Yes, I do consider myself fortunate to have 3 lines of Beatys. I used to think I was the Beaty-est person around but I know of someone else who has 4 lines, so I guess I can't claim that distinction anymore. : ) Thanks for all this great info. About L2B, was it indeed the spread of the ages of David, George, John, Andrew & Alexander that caused them to be discounted as all being brothers? During the early part of the 1900s & prior to that time it wasn't unusual for women in that part of the country to have children over a period of 20 yrs. or more. My foster grandmother had children over a span of 24 yrs. One woman I know of had 20 children over a span of 28 years. So I, personally, wouldn't rule out the possibility of the 5 of them being brothers just on the span of their ages. The best of luck to you with your research. Gerri ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Hi Nel, Yes, I do consider myself fortunate to have 3 lines of Beatys. I used to think I was the Beaty-est person around but I know of someone else who has 4 lines, so I guess I can't claim that distinction anymore. : ) Thanks for all this great info. About L2B, was it indeed the spread of the ages of David, George, John, Andrew & Alexander that caused them to be discounted as all being brothers? During the early part of the 1900s & prior to that time it wasn't unusual for women in that part of the country to have children over a period of 20 yrs. or more. My foster grandmother had children over a span of 24 yrs. One woman I know of had 20 children over a span of 28 years. So I, personally, wouldn't rule out the possibility of the 5 of them being brothers just on the span of their ages. The best of luck to you with your research. Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nel141@aol.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 Beatys BP2000 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 189 > > Hello Gerri, > Lucky you -- to have three lines of Beatys! > > I think the info you have on your Beatys is the most current. I have > been > working on some of my other lines recently, but don't think there have > been > any new developments in L2. > > One thought about L2E -- David & George are proven brothers and as far as > I > know, John is still assumed to be another brother. Some secondary > sources > still say they are all brothers of L2B Andrew & Alexander, but I think > their > ages negate that. My theory is that they might be nephews...or maybe > cousins. > > > As to L2B, I think that affidavits in the various pension and land bounty > applications pretty much prove that William/Billy was the father of Andrew > & > Alexander. > > I'm working on some related clues, but nothing proven yet. > > There are land records in Washington Co., VA for William Beaty and his > wife > Frances indicating they sold at least part of their 250 acres on 15 Mile > Creek in 1787. They had settled there in 1772. > > There is also a William Beaty with an NC land grant recorded in 1798 for > 250 > acres on Beaver Creek in Sullivan Co., TN. He sold 200 acres of it 3 Jan > 1801. His son Alexander and Catherine Travis were married there in Dec > 1801 > [or maybe 1800 -- the statement is a little confusing] and they moved to > KY. > [Did he go with them or was he just "downsizing" in his retirement after > all > the boys moved away?] > > Will Beaty also turns up on a list of road builders for the establishment > of > a road about 1795 in what became Sullivan Co., TN from the "Coaling > Ground > Beaver Creek Iron Works onwards...". He is listed along with John Cooper > (the > father in law of his son Andrew Beaty), Julias Hacker, and others. John > Cooper received a NC land patent dated 10 Nov 1784 for land in Sullivan > Co. on > Beaver Creek adjacent to Julias Hacker and William Baty. > > And most recently, I noticed the 1763 Will for Robert Boyd of Sadsbury, > Chester Co., PA -- his daughter Frances and her husband William Beaty > were living > in West Fallowfield, Chester Co., PA at the time. I don't have proof > that > this is our Billy, but we know that his son Andrew was born somewhere in > PA in > 1761 and Chester Co. has been a strong possibility. > > Hope this answers some of your questions. Good luck with your research. > > Nel Rocklein L2B > > > > > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:26:27 -0400 > From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> > Subject: [BP2000] L2Beatys > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001c7c25b$10bb47b0$0402a8c0@yourt6b89spgxr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am descended from 4 L2 early Fentress Co. Beatys, all formerly thought > to > be children of John Beaty & Margaret Montgomery or John and his second > wife. > My paternal Beaty line descends from 1752-3 James, L2F. One of my > maternal > lines descends from his twin sister, Phoebe. Is there any evidence as to > who > their parents are? Another maternal line descends from 1758-61 Andrew, > L2B. Is Billy still assumed to be his father? Another maternal line is > from > 1780 John, Jr., h/o Abigail, L2E. Are his brothers still believed to be > David > & George? Who is thought to be their parents? > Gerri Beaty Goodwin > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Do we have anyone familiar with L-103? Is this Samuel the father of L-103 Benjamin? Donna L-3 Is this Marmaduke Wilson the same as from the will of Samuel? York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 Book Page: Surname: Bety Given Name: Samuel Title: Description: Decedent Residence: Reading Township Date: 6 Apr 1795 - 1 Jan 1796 Prove Date: 1 Jan 1796 Remarks: Samuel Bety. Apr 6, 1795. Executors: Benjamin Bety and John Polk. Reading Township. Wife: Mary Bety. Children: Benjamin, William, Samuel, John, Jane, Elizabeth wife of George Smith, Susanna wife of Marmyduke Wilson, Esther wife of John Polk, Rachel wife of David Polk, Lilly wife of Ludwick Franks, Margaret wife of Thomas McFarland, and Sarah wife of William Laughlin. -------------------------------- L-103 bio History of Westomoreland County, Pennsylvania Genealogical Memoirs compiled by John W. Jordon 1906 Lewis Publishing Company vol. II, p. 504 write up on John Beatty Jr. with beautiful portrait. Benjamin Beatty was the grandfather of John Beatty Jr. He was born in Derry, Ireland in 1745 and emigrated to America at a young age. He located in eastern PA and served in the continental army. He resided in Adams county, PA in 1785 and moved to Washington county, PA in 1809. In 1810, he purchased a farm from his brother-in-law, Marmaduke Wilson at Beatty Station PA railroad in Unity township, Westmoreland...
Still looking for info. on George Betty. BP2000 gives his birth date 1742 in England. This by Bruce Coonrod. Have not been able to contact Mr Coonrod. In the states he lived in Warren Co NC. Would like to know when he emigrated, where he landed. No info. on his wife, have some on his children. May be Peter would have a hint. He died about 1809 in Warren Co NC. In the past Earl discussed a perfect match DNA for Peter, Armond and Robert L. [me]. He also said Peter and Robert L. had not had the advanced DNA test. Whats the story on that? Thank you, Robert L. Batey #133