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    1. [BP2000] DNA TESTING
    2. JERRY SCOTT
    3. Marlene , Willie and Group, I am not ready to accept these results as fact and that Andrew and Alexander are not the brothers of William of Saline Co. Mo.. Do we know that the descendants of L1, L3, L133, L438 and L39 who did the DNA test are well documented research. It seem to me that there is some circumstantial evidence that would lead us to believe that Andrew Alexander and William are brothers , and James of Rutherford Co. Tn. James did sell land to William's son Robert before Robert migarted to Saline Co. David Beaty who also migrated to Hioward Co. and then to Saline Co. has to been related to William Beaty of Saline Co. Was William his Uncle? . Unless some evidences proofs me wrong abt my theory on William, Andrew and Alexander I will not be contented about my research and will keep looking for that one Source that will proves me RIGHT OR WRONG. Jerry W.Scott L2D

    07/21/2007 11:28:42
    1. Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA
    2. Willie R. Beaty
    3. Yes, Marlene, I agree that our MRCA may have been across the pond. It looks like my brother David C, Donor L1, Donor L3 and your brother John T. have the best chances of having a MRCA who either stayed in the old country, or possibly was a first generation emigrant. Like I said, I'm not the sharpest tack in the box on these DNA readings. I do hope that DNA testings will eventually clear up some of our questions, such as how did L1 and L3 come to have such a close DNA match to the L2 sublineages, when the migratory patterns are so different. By the way, in your own lineage, where do the "old folks" (grandparents, etc) say that you came to America from? I know mine claim Ireland more than any other, but some say we are "Scotch-Irish." Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene" <viowl5894@earthlink.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > Willie, > > L2D , ID31 is my brother John T. > Reading and taking notes all morning from the DNA group mailing list and > the > L2D test results. Don't know if I have a better understanding ....or > Not.... > On the 25 marker test there are exact matches to L2B,-2E & 2F....also > matches to L1, L3, L133, L438 and L39.. > At 67 markers the L2F and L1 were closest to L2D. - one step further > removed were L2B, L3, and L428 (of course not all donors have gone on to a > "67" test) > >>From the tables showing the probability of two testees sharing a common > ancestor..some interesting figures: > Between L2D and L2B (Billy Beaty/ father of Alexander & Andrew) > Probability of common ancestor within: > 8 generations 63.06% > 12 generations 87.95% > 20 " " 99.24 > Doesn't look like a strong result for Wm. Beaty (KY>Saline MO) and > Alexander > /Andrew to be brothers. > > L2D and L2F -Probabilites of common ancestor: > 8 generation 94.43% > 12 generations 99.12% > 20 " " 99.98% > > L2D and L1 > in 8 generations 95.27% > 12 " " 99.32% > 20 "" 99.99% > > L2D and L3 > in 8 generations 65,37% > 12 " " 89.34% > 20 " " 99.41% > > What do you make of this? Sometimes I think the MRCA might have been > 'across the pond' in Ireland or Scotland. Most puzzling is the L1 > closeness.... > > Marlene > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willie R. Beaty" <wbeaty@twlakes.net> > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > > >> Marlene, >> >> I'm not sharp in drawing conclusions from the DNA results, though I am >> very >> interested in discovering more specifically how these results might >> confirm >> or deny any of our paper trail information. I believe that I >> communicated >> with your L2D DNA donor, ID 31 after the results revealed a very close >> match >> GD at 37 markers with my brother, ID 55. Of what relation is this person >> to >> you? My most distant known ancestor was James, 1752/53 who settled in >> Cumberland Co KY around 1799 and removed to Rutherford Co TN bet >> 1821-1822. > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/21/2007 04:08:12
    1. [BP2000] Beattie Births and Baptisms in Ayrshire Scotland, 1553 - 1854
    2. Laurel Baty
    3. Births & Baptisms From Old Parish Registers, Ayrshire, Scotland, 1553 - 1854 [Copies of the original entries are available on http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/] Baittie, Janet; May 20, 1675 to Robert Baittie & Jean Laurie, Kilmarnock Parish Bartie, William Nish, Jan. 24, 1804, to James Bartie & Jean Wilson, Ayr Parish Battrie, Margaret, June 18, 1805 to Robert Battrie & Elizabeth McHoull, Ayr Parish Batty, Mary, Jan. 31, 1819, to John Batty & Elizabeth Wilson, Ayr Parish Beath, Kathrine, Nov. 1, 1695 to William Beath & Christian Wilsone, Irvine Parish Beath, Robert, Sept. 16, 1759 to Archibald Beath & Janet Kerr, Dreghorn Parish Beatie, Allen, Feb. 25, 1816 to Allen Beatie & Janet Ritchmond (child 6), Kilmarnock Parish Beatie, Andrew, April 8, 1660 to Robert Beatie & Gilian Miller, Stralton Parish Beatie, Crawfurd, Feb. 26, 1837 to George Beatie & Ann McMillan, Ardrossan Parish [L340, Poor Relief records indicate that a son named James went to America as well as known son John Beattie. Another son George, appears to still be living c1880 but had not been heard from for 20 years.] Beatie, Elizabeth, Mar. 4, 1816 to John Beatie & Elizabeth Geddies, Girvan Parish Beatie, Jannet, Sept. 14, 1817 to John Beatie & Elizabeth Geddies, Girvan Parish Beatie, Jean, April 13, 1781 to David Beatie, Kilmarnock Parish Beatie, Jean, May 17, 1812 to James Beatie & Esther McChestnie, Girvan Parish Beatie, John, July 24, 1783 to Lachline Beatie & Margaret Donie, Tarbolton Parish Beatie, Margaret, Oct. 20, 1787 to David Beatie & Margaret Templeton (child 4), Kilmarnock Parish Beatie, Mary, Aug. 4, 1817 to John Beatie & Elizabeth Duncan (1 child), Kilmarnock Parish Beatie, Mary Elizabeth, Dec. 10, 1801 to Beatie/ Mary Elizabeth Urquhart Beatie; Mauchline Parish Beatie, Mathew, Feb. 12, 1785 to David Beatie & Margaret Templeton (3 child); Kilmarnock Parish Beatie, Sarah, July 7, 1782 to Kenneth Beatie & Margaret Kenedy; Beith Parish Beatie, Sarah, Jan. 15, 1815 to James Beatie & Esther McChesnie; Girvan Parish Beatie, Sarah, Feb. 21, 1828 to William Beatie & Sarah McClelland; Maybole Parish Beatie, Thomas, June 27, 1813 to James Beatie & Esther McChestnie, Girvan Parish Beatie, Thomas, Dec. 5, 1819 to John Beatie & Elizabeth Geddies; Girvan Parish Beatie, William, Mar. 28, 1824 to William Beatie & Sarah McClelland; Maybole Parish. Beattie, Adam, May 26, 1810 to John Beattie & Margaret Kennedy; Ayr Parish Beattie, Agnes, April 20, 1794 to Thomas Beattie & Mary Ritchmond, Ayr Parish Beattie, Agnes Muir, Nov. 9, 1848, to Andrew Beattie & Marion Muir; New Cumnock Parish Beattie, Agness, Sept. 19, 1819, William Beattie & Sarah McClelland, Maybole Parish Beattie, Alexander, Jan. 19, 1826, Robert Beattie & Martha Hart; St Quivox Parish Beattie, Alexander, Aug. 15, 1851, Alexander Beattie & Sarah Robertson, St. Quivox Parish Beattie, Allan, Sept. 4, 1832 to John Beattie & Catherine Cochrane (child 1), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Andrew, June 22, 1850 to Andrew Beattie & Marion Muir, New Cumnock Parish Beattie, Ann, April 2, 1749 to Robert Beattie & Jean Oswall (1 child), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Anne, Jan. 21, 1828 to David Beattie & Margaret Spencer (5 child), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, David, July 19, 1757 to Matthew Beattie & Jean Ritchmont (7 child); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, David, July 17, 1807 to Alan Beattie & Janet Richmond (child 2); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, David, Feb. 18, 1823 to David Beattie & Margaret Spencer (child 3); Kilmarnock Beattie, Duncan, Oct. 10, 1823 to John Beattie & Elizabeth Duncan (4 child); Kilmarnock [another entry dated Dec. 12, 1823 is probably a baptism] Beattie, Elizabeth, Feb. 10, 1822 to William Beattie & Sarah McClellan; Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Elizabeth, Jan. 10, 1823 to Allan Beattie & Janet Richmond; Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Elizabeth, Aug. 20, 1832, to Robert Beattie & Martha Hart; St. Quivox Parish Beattie, George, Dec. 3, 1804 to George Beattie & Barbara Mackie, Ayr Parish Beattie, George, Jan. 19, 1827 to George Beattie & Mary Vidler, Kirkmichael Parish Beattie, George, May 25, 1827 to John Beattie & Mary Crawford, Old Cumnock Parish Beattie, Hanna, July 1, 1829 to Robert Beattie & Martha Hart; St. Quivox Parish Beattie, Helen, Oct. 2, 1746 to Matthew Beattie & Jean Ritchmont (child 2); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Helen, June 15, 1806 to James Beattie & Helen Miller; St. Quivox Parish. Beattie, Isabell, July 15, 1811 to John Beattie & Elizabeth Newell, Irvine Parish Beattie, James, June 1, 1704 to John Beattie & Agnes Dyer, Ayr Parish Beattie, James, Dec. 10, 1824 to James Beattie & Esther Machesney, Girvan Parish Beattie, James Millar, Mar. 17, 1821 to David Beattie & Margaret Spencer (child 2), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Janet, June 24, 1805 to Allan Beattie & Janet Richmond (child 1), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Janet, Dec. 12, 1847 to Robert Beattie & Janet Johnston, Stewarton Parish Beattie, Jean, Jan. 17, 1745 to Matthew Beattie & Jean Ritchmont (child 1), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Jean, Mar. 3, 1754 to Robert Beattie & Jean Oswall (child 3), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Jean, April 15, 1781 to David Beattie & Margaret Templeton (child 1), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Jean, April 30, 1825 to David Beattie & Margaret Spencer (child 4), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, John, Dec. 6, 1795 to Thomas Beattie & Mary Ritchmond, Ayr Parish Beattie, John, July 25, 1805 to George Beattie & Elisabeth Hislop, St. Quivox Parish Beattie, John, July 27, 1809 to Alan Beattie & Janet Richmond (child 3), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, John, May 9, 1820 to John Beattie & Elizabeth Duncan (child 2), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, John, Dec. 10, 1824 to James Beattie & Esther Machesney, Girvan Parish Beattie, John, Aug. 20, 1827 to John Beattie & Elizabeth Duncan (child 4), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, John, May 1, 1849 to Alexander Beattie & Sarah Robertson, St. Quivox Parish Beattie, John Vidlar, April 18, 1825 to George Beattie & Mary Vidlar; Kirkmichael Parish Beattie, Katherine, April 7, 1807 to John Beattie & Margaret Kennedy; Ayr Parish Beattie, Margaret, Dec. 26, 1803 to George Beattie & Elisabeth Hislop; St. Quivox Parish Beattie, Margaret, Aug. 25, 1811 to Allan Beattie & Janet Richmond (child 4); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Margaret, April 15, 1818 to Allan Beattie & Janet Richmond (child 7); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Margaret, Aug. 16, 1838 to David Beattie & Margaret Spencer (8 child); Kilmarnock Beattie, Martha, Jan. 16, 1791 to David Beattie & Margaret Templeton (child 6); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Mary, Aug. 7, 1748 to Matthew Beattie & Jean Ritchmont (child 3); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Mary, April 29, 1798 to Thomas Beattie & Mary Ritchmond, Ayr Parish Beattie, Mary, Aug. 1, 1817 to John Beattie & Elizabeth Duncan (child 2), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Mary, Oct. 20, 1818 to David Beattie & Margaret Spence (child 1); Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Mary, Aug. 3, 1848 to Joseph Beattie & Margaret Brown, New Cumnock Parish Beattie, Matthew, Feb. 18, 1658 to Andro Beattie & Jonet Boyd, Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Matthew, Nov. 27, 1752 to Matthew Beattie & Jean Ritchmont (child 4), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Peter, Oct. 21, 1849 to Robert Beattie & Janet Johnston, Stewarton Parish Beattie, Robert, Feb. 23, 1755 to Matthew Beattie & Jean Ritchmont (child 6), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Robert, Oct. 21, 1792 to David Beattie & Margaret Templeton (child 7), Kilmarnock Parish Beattie, Robert, April 5, 1818 to William Beattie & Janet McNab, Maybole Parish Beattie, Robert, June 13, 1847 to Alexander Beattie & Sarah Robertson; St. Quivox Parish Beattie, Samuel. Aug. 5, 1788 to David Beattie, Dailly Parish Beattie, Samuel, May 21, 1820 to William Beattie & Jane McNab, Maybole Parish Beattie, Sarah, Dec. 31, 1824 to Aldreag Beattie & Mary Ann Hainan, Maybole Parish Beattie, Thomas, Nov. 2, 1813 to John Beattie & Margaret Kennedy, Ayr Parish Beattie, William, Sept. 13, 1813 to John Beattie & Sarah Wright, Ayr Parish Beattie, William, Dec. 10, 1824 to James Beattie & Esther Machesney, Girvan Parish Beattie, William, Sept. 27, 1846 to William Beattie & Agnes Paton, Sorn Parish Beattie, William Wilson, July 12, 1830 to David Beattie & Margaret Spencer (child 6), Kilmarnock Parish Beatty, James, June 25, 1799 to George Beatty & Janet Loudoun, Loudon Parish Beatty, Margarit, Oct. 1, 1732 to William Beatty & Jane Grahames; Ayr Parish Beatty, William, Jan. 26, 1832 to William Beatty & Sarah McClilland, Maybole Parish Beaty, Barbara, Mar. 18, 1695 to Robert Beaty & Jean Laurie, Kilmarnock Parish Beaty, Robert, Dec. 29, 1734 to Robert Beaty & Elisabeth Stevenson, Kilmarnock Parish Betie, Agnas, Oct. 19, 1679 to Robert Betie & Jean Lowrie; Kilmarnock Parish Betie, Jenat, Oct. 19, 1679 to Robert Betie & Jean Lowrie; Kilmarnock Parish Betie, Mary, Sept. 28, 1712 to Matthew Betie & Anne Frazer (child 4), Kilmarnock Betie, Mary, Sept. 28, 1714 to Matthew Betie & Anne Frazer (child 6), Kilmarnock Bettie, Alan, June 30, 1782 to David Bettie & Margaret Templeton (child 2); Kilmarnock Parish Bettie, Andro, Mar 7, 1650 to Andro Bettie & Jonet Boyd, Kilmarnock Parish Bettie, Jonet, April 15, 1649 to Robert Bettie & Gillian Millaire; Stralton Parish Bettie, Margaret, Feb. 3, 1653 to Robert Bettie & Gillian Logie; Stralton Parish Bettie, Marjorie, April 8, 1655 to Andrew Bettie & Jonet Boyd; Kilmarnock Parish Bettie, Martha, Nov. 26, 1687 to Robert Bettie & Jean Laurie; Kilmarnock Parish Bettie, Mathew, July 14, 1659 to Andro Bettie & Jonet Boyd; Kilmarnock Parish Bettie, Robert, Aug. 26, 1652 to Andro Bettie & Janet Boyd; Kilmarnock Bettie, Robert, Feb. 22, 1789 to David Bettie & Margaret Templeton (child 5); Kilmarnock Betty, Oct. 22, 1835 to Betty, Ayr Parish Betty, Agnes, Feb. 27, 1692 to Robert Betty & Jean Lowrie, Kilmarnock Parish Laurel Baty, L252

    07/21/2007 02:13:19
    1. Re: [BP2000] Early PA Land Warrant indexes on-line
    2. Laurel Baty
    3. Did you see the link to the actual plats of land? These are very nice original drawings showing land boundaries. You need a # from the Warrant index to locate the plats of land. You PA researchers are lucky to have such great records on-line! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry H. Beattie" <sqrbear@cox.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Early PA Land Warrant indexes on-line > Thanks Laurel Baty, L252,, > > It appears to me that Francis Beaty (L -20) received a land warrant > probably right next door to James Beaty (L - 98) on the same day and > they appeared to be together at the time. > > <http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm>http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm > > Land Warrant Index > > Select Page 10 for Lancaster Co., Pa > > Item > > 141 Beaty, Francis Survey 200 Acres Donegal Twp, on Coney > Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 > > 142 Beaty, Francis Survey 300 Acres Pennsboro Twp on N.S. > Yellow Breeches Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 > > 143 Beaty, James Survey 400 Acres Pennsboro Twp on N.S. > Yellow > Breeches Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 > > Note: There is an identical 25 marker DNA match between a James Beaty > and Francis Beaty "The Surveyor" and this is the first time that they > have had documentation showing them located very close together. I > have had documentation for James being located on the yellow Breeches > Creek but we did not have any info for Francis "The Surveyor" > actually located there also until now unless I am mistaken. > > Thanks again Laurel for this website. Barry H. Beattie, L - 98, San > Marcos, San Diego Co. CA > > > At 03:56 AM 7/21/2007, you wrote: >>The PA State Archives has the indexes to Early PA Land Warrants >>on-line, broken out by county. There are many Beattys (of all spellings). >> >>http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm >> >>Laurel Baty, L252 >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message >> to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from >> your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so >> that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    07/21/2007 11:36:06
    1. Re: [BP2000] Beattie Marriages in Ayrshire, Scotland, 1553 - 1854
    2. Laurel Baty
    3. Here are 2 more records: Bettie, Arthur to Elizabeth Slowan, Mauchline Parish, Dec. 9, 1771 Bettie, Barbra to David Rynkn, Riccarton Parish, Nov. 26, 1719 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: [BP2000] Beattie Marriages in Ayrshire, Scotland, 1553 - 1854 > Marriages From Old Parish Registers, Ayrshire, Scotland, 1553 - 1854 > [Copies of the original entries are available on > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/] > > Marriages: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    07/21/2007 10:56:24
    1. [BP2000] Beattie Marriages in Ayrshire, Scotland, 1553 - 1854
    2. Laurel Baty
    3. Marriages From Old Parish Registers, Ayrshire, Scotland, 1553 - 1854 [Copies of the original entries are available on http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/] Marriages: Battay, Mary to James Shannan, Ayr Parish, March 3, 1841 Battie, ___ to Gilbert McConchie, Kirkmichael Parish, July 20, 1665 Batty, John to Jean Main, Ayr Parish, March 22, 1790 Beath, Margaret to Andrew Cowan, Ayr Parish, Mar 26, 1814 Beatie, Barbara to David Rankin, Kilmarnock Parish, Nov. 26, 1719 Beatie, Eldrage to Mary Ann Hainnan, Maybole Parish, Dec. 16, 1821 Beatie, James to Jane Adams, Kirkmichael Parish, June 21, 1850 Beatie, Janet to John Richmont, Sorn Parish, Aug. 15, 1693 Beatie, Jennet to Robert Sloss, Kilmarnock Parish, Feb. 18, 1704 Beatie, John to Bessie Gowdie, Kilmarnock Parish, Feb. 28, 1700 Beatie, John to Rebecca Hood, Kilbirnie Parish, April 23, 1850 Beatie, Mary to Thomas Irvine, Newton on Ayr, Nov. 30, 1827 Beatie, Mary to Thomas Irvine, Newton on Ayr, Nov. 9, 1827 Beatie, Mary to John Downie, Girvan Parish, June 5, 1854 Beatie, Sara to James Gilmour, Kilmarnock Parish, May 25, 1724 Beatie, Sarah to William Scott, Girvan Parish, Dec. 21, 1840 Beatie, Thomas to Agnes Roneston, Riccarton Parish, Jan. 1, 1831 Beatie, Thomas to Janet Darroch, Kirkmichael Parish, Oct. 23, 1851 Beatie, William to Christina Purvis, Riccarton Parish, Aug. 20, 1830 Beatie, William to Susan Lamb, Girvan Parish, Mar. 5, 1843 Beattie, Agnes to John Cooper, Ardrossan parish, Feb. 14, 1846 [L340] Beattie, Alexander to Mary McClelland, Sorn Parish, Nov. 2, 1847 Beattie, Allan to Janet Richmond, Kilmarnock Parish, July 6, 1804 Beattie, Ann to Robert Stirling, Kilmarnock Parish, June 14, 1850 Beattie, Anne to John McClinton, Maybole Parish, July 14, 1811 Beattie, Charles to Caroline Dick, Ayr Parish, April 24, 1841 Beattie, David to Margaret Spencer, Dreghorn Parish, March 7, 1818 Beattie, David to Margaret Spencer, Kilmarnock Parish, March 27, 1843 Beattie, David to Jean Brown. Kilmarnock Parish, Jan. 20, 1843 Beattie, David to Isabella McKenzie, Dalry parish, May 8, 1852 Beattie, Elizabeth to Angus McDonald, Newton on Ayr, Nov. 25, 1799 Beattie, Elizabeth to John Gebbie, Kilmarnock Parish, Jan. 5, 1850 Beattie, Elizabeth to Thomas Graham, Ardrossan Parish, Feb. 15, 1851 [L340] Beattie, Elizabeth to Francis James/Ellis, St. Quivox Parish, Dec. 12, 1852 Beattie, Elizabeth to Francis Ellis, St. Quivox Parish, Dec. 12, 1852 Beattie, Elizabeth to Joseph McQuha, Ardrossan Pariah, Sept. 30, 1854 Beattie, George to Agness McCool, Ardrossan Parish, Jan. 1, 1847 Beattie, George to Jane Stewart, Old Cumnock Parish, Oct. 22, 1852 Beattie, Hannah to James Spiers, St. Quivox Parish, Feb. 12, 1854 Beattie, Hannah to James Spiers, St. Quivox Parish, Feb. 19, 1854 Beattie, James to Elizabeth McMillan, Monkton and Prestwick Parish, Oct. 8, 1825 Beattie, James to Barbara Hunter, Ardrossan Parish, Jan. 23, 1852 Beattie, Jane to James Borland, Ayr Parish, Oct. 10, 1845 Beattie, Jane to John Gainner, Coylton Parish, Nov. 28, 1845 Beattie, Janet to John Manson, Kilmarnock Parish, Aug. 12, 1825 Beattie, Jean to Robert Torrance, Kilmarnock Parish, Feb. 7, 1834 Beattie, Jean to William Taylor, Kilmarnock Parish, Jan. 23, 1846 Beattie, Jean to Daniel Neil, Kilmarnock Parish, Feb. 12, 1847 Beattie, John to Elizabeth Duncan, Kilmarnock Parish, Nov. 9, 1813 Beattie, John to Catherine Cochrane, Kilmarnock Parish, Mar. 26, 1832 Beattie, Margaret to William Ratray, Ayr Parish, June 24, 1697 Beattie, Margaret to John Wallace, Kilmarnock Parish, Dec. 24, 1852 Beattie, Martha to James Young, Kilmarnock Parish, July 7, 1828 Beattie, Mary to Henry Port, Ayr Parish, Nov. 20, 1820 Beattie, Mary to James Johnston, Kilmarnock Parish, April 11, 1825 Beattie, Mary to Mathew Smith, Kilmarnock Parish, Sept. 2, 1836 Beattie, Mary to William Gemmel, St. Quivox Parish, May 26, 1850 Beattie, Matthew to Jean Richmont, Kilmarnock Parish, April 26, 1744 Beattie, Nelson Roe to Ann Glover, Kilmarnock Parish, July 22, 1842 Beattie, Robert to Jean Hassul or Kennedy, Kilmarnock Parish, May 23, 1748 Beattie, Robert to Mary McClean, Dalry Parish, Oct. 2, 1850 Beattie, Sarah to John Dickie, Kilmarnock Parish, May 21, 1827 Beattie, Sarah to William Adare, Dalry Parish, Nov. 12, 1852 Beattie, Walter to Isabella Boyd or Baxter, Maybole Parish, Nov. 30, 1849 Beattie, William to Sarah McClelland, Maybole Parish, Jan. 3, 1819 Beattie, William to Elizabeth Seaton, Sorn Parish, Dec. 24, 1827 Beattie, William to Jane Johnstone, Maybole Parish, April 25, 1842 Beattie-Anderson, Robert to Jane Smith, Kilmarnock Parish, Aug. 8, 1848 Beatty, John to Bessy Gawdie, Ayr Parish, April 4, 1700 Beatty, Thomas to Mary Ritchmond, Ayr Parish, Jan. 18, 1794 Beaty, Jonet to Andro Hwnter, Ochiltree Parish, June 13, 1659 Beaty, Mary to John Sheerer, Ayr Parish, July 1, 1716 Beaty, Samul to Jonet Hamilton, Stevenston Parish, Jan. 5, 1758 Beaty, Sara to Hugh Broun, Kilmarnock Parish, Sept. 28, 1730 Betty, John to Margaret Jean/White, Kilbirnie Parish, July 9, 1847 Laurel Baty, L252

    07/21/2007 10:40:04
    1. Re: [BP2000] Early PA Land Warrant indexes on-line
    2. Barry H. Beattie
    3. Thanks Laurel, I found the actual plats of land for the first one item 141 but there was no # from the Warrant index to locate the plats of land for items 142 & 143 that I was very interested in along the North Side of the Yellow Breeches Creek. It would have been very nice to have. Barry H. Beattie L-98 At 02:36 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote: >Did you see the link to the actual plats of land? These are very nice >original drawings showing land boundaries. You need a # from the Warrant >index to locate the plats of land. You PA researchers are lucky to have >such great records on-line! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barry H. Beattie" <sqrbear@cox.net> >To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:18 PM >Subject: Re: [BP2000] Early PA Land Warrant indexes on-line > > > > Thanks Laurel Baty, L252,, > > > > It appears to me that Francis Beaty (L -20) received a land warrant > > probably right next door to James Beaty (L - 98) on the same day and > > they appeared to be together at the time. > > > > > <http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm>http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm > > > > Land Warrant Index > > > > Select Page 10 for Lancaster Co., Pa > > > > Item > > > > 141 Beaty, Francis Survey 200 Acres Donegal Twp, on Coney > > Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 > > > > 142 Beaty, Francis Survey 300 Acres Pennsboro Twp on N.S. > > Yellow Breeches Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 > > > > 143 Beaty, James Survey 400 Acres Pennsboro Twp on N.S. > > Yellow > > Breeches Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 > > > > Note: There is an identical 25 marker DNA match between a James Beaty > > and Francis Beaty "The Surveyor" and this is the first time that they > > have had documentation showing them located very close together. I > > have had documentation for James being located on the yellow Breeches > > Creek but we did not have any info for Francis "The Surveyor" > > actually located there also until now unless I am mistaken. > > > > Thanks again Laurel for this website. Barry H. Beattie, L - 98, San > > Marcos, San Diego Co. CA > > > > > > At 03:56 AM 7/21/2007, you wrote: > >>The PA State Archives has the indexes to Early PA Land Warrants > >>on-line, broken out by county. There are many Beattys (of all spellings). > >> > >>http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm > >> > >>Laurel Baty, L252 > >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message > >> to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from > >> your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so > >> that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message > to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from > your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so > that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/21/2007 09:47:14
    1. [BP2000] David Beattie of Ardrossan, Ayrshire, Scotland
    2. Laurel Baty
    3. The following monument is located in Ardrossan Cemetery, Ayrshire, Scotland, (Lot 711), very close to where Elizabeth Beattie Taylor Graham and her father George Beattie, both of Lineage 340, are buried (Lot 715): In loving Memory of David Beattie, Who Died 25 April 1919, Aged 96 His wife Helen White Died 11 Feb 1929, Aged 91 Their Children Agnes died 8 March 1877 Aged 3 mos. Mary died 17 Dec. 1891 Aged 11 David Beattie Died 20 March 1949, Aged 73 1901 Ardrossan, Ayr, p. 44 David Beattie 73 retired steamer stoker, born Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Ellen 57 born Paisley Renfrewshire David 26 engine fitter Ellen 28 dressmaker 1891 Ardrossan, Ayrshire p. 30, Barr Lane Ellen Beattie 46 born Paisley, Renfrewshire, wife Ellen Beattie 18 dressmaker, born Ardrossan David Beattie 16 blacksmith's apprentice, born Ardrossan Wm Beattie 13 Baker apprentice, born Ardrossan Mary Beattie, 11 [dies Dec. 1891], born Ardrossan 1881 Ardrossan Ayrshire, Barr Square Ellen Beattie 42, born Paisley, Renfrewshire, seaman's wife Jane 12 born Ardrossan Ellen 8 born Ardrossan David 6 born Ardrossan William 3 born Ardrossan Mary 1 born Ardrossan 1871 Ardrossan, Ayrshire, page 7 David Beatie 45 born Kilmarnock, Ayrshire John 12 son [born Nov. 8, 1859, father David Beattie, mother Margaret McMillan] Mary Eliza 9 daughter [born Nov. 17, 1861, father David Beattie, mother Mary McMillan] Robert 5 son[born April 17, 1865, father David Beattie, mother Mary McMillan] Ann Mc Geachen 23 lodger James McGeachen 20 lodger Jane McGeachen 32 lodger Margaret McGeachen 9 lodger 1861 Ardrossan, Ayrshire Scotland David Betty, 29, born Ricarton, Ayrshire driver Goade Crane Mary Betty 29 Hugh Betty 8 John Betty 15 months David Beattie appears to have been married 3 times. 1.. May 8, 1852 David Beattie married Isabella McKenzie, Dalry Parish, Ayr. Isabella McKenzie Beattie died Nov. 17, 1857. She was married to David Beattie, engine driver. Her father was Peter McKenzie and her mother was Catherine Bell. Isabella was buried at Ardrossan Church, Saltcoats. 2.. November 9, 1858 David Beattie, a widower and son of Samuel Beattie, shoemaker, & Ann McMillan, deceased, married Mary McMillan, daughter of John McMillan, deceased, & Elizabeth Shaw. Mary McMillan Beattie, wife of David Beattie, died September 5, 1870, she was living at Barr Lane, Ardrossan at the time of her death. 3.. July 3, 1871 David Beattie, widower, married Ellen White in Paisley, Renfrewshire. David Beattie's father is shown as Samuel Beattie, shoemaker, (deceased) and his mother as Ann ___ (deceased). David Beattie resides in Ardrossan and is a steamboat engine driver. Ellen White is the daughter of Henry White and Margaret Rutherford. The marriage data appears to conflict with the information on David Beattie's death certificate. David Beattie's death certificate states he was a seaman, married to Helen Whyte. His father's name is given as David Beattie and his mother's name as Margaret Spencer. The informant was a son, Robert Beattie. Since David Beattie himself supplied the information on the marriage records it seems a more reliable source than the information supplied by his son Robert. There is a Samuel Beattie, shoemaker, who died at age 85 in Kilbirnie, Ayrshire, parents names not given. He was a widower at his death. 1851 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire, p. 20 Samuel Beathe, born Ireland, shoemaker, 67 Robert 22 visitor born Ireland William 17 son born Kilmarnock, Ayrshire David 6 months Great grandchild born Dalry, Ayrshire Mary McClean 21 visitor born Ireland There is also a David Beattie who married Margaret Spencer in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Scotland March 7, 1818. Christening records show the following children: Mary born October 20, 1818, Kilmarnock James Millar born March 17, 1821 Jean born April 30, 1825 Anne born January 21, 1828 David born February 18, 1823 William Wilson born July 7, 1830, Kilmarnock Margaret born August 16, 1838, Kilmarnock 1841 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire David Beatie 50 born Scotland, occupation: skinner Mrs. Beatie 45 born Ayrshire James Beatie 20 born Ayrshire Jean Beatie 16 born Ayrshire Ann 13 born Ayrshire William 11 born Ayrshire David 10 born Ayrshire Margaret 2 born Ayrshire 1851 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire David Beattie 57, skinner, born, Ayr, Ayr Margaret Spencer 54 wife born Kilmarnock Margaret Beattie 11 daughter, bonnet weaver David 9 son, scholar Laurel Baty, L252

    07/21/2007 08:54:03
    1. Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA
    2. Marlene
    3. Willie, L2D , ID31 is my brother John T. Reading and taking notes all morning from the DNA group mailing list and the L2D test results. Don't know if I have a better understanding ....or Not.... On the 25 marker test there are exact matches to L2B,-2E & 2F....also matches to L1, L3, L133, L438 and L39.. At 67 markers the L2F and L1 were closest to L2D. - one step further removed were L2B, L3, and L428 (of course not all donors have gone on to a "67" test) >From the tables showing the probability of two testees sharing a common ancestor..some interesting figures: Between L2D and L2B (Billy Beaty/ father of Alexander & Andrew) Probability of common ancestor within: 8 generations 63.06% 12 generations 87.95% 20 " " 99.24 Doesn't look like a strong result for Wm. Beaty (KY>Saline MO) and Alexander /Andrew to be brothers. L2D and L2F -Probabilites of common ancestor: 8 generation 94.43% 12 generations 99.12% 20 " " 99.98% L2D and L1 in 8 generations 95.27% 12 " " 99.32% 20 "" 99.99% L2D and L3 in 8 generations 65,37% 12 " " 89.34% 20 " " 99.41% What do you make of this? Sometimes I think the MRCA might have been 'across the pond' in Ireland or Scotland. Most puzzling is the L1 closeness.... Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie R. Beaty" <wbeaty@twlakes.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > Marlene, > > I'm not sharp in drawing conclusions from the DNA results, though I am > very > interested in discovering more specifically how these results might > confirm > or deny any of our paper trail information. I believe that I communicated > with your L2D DNA donor, ID 31 after the results revealed a very close > match > GD at 37 markers with my brother, ID 55. Of what relation is this person > to > you? My most distant known ancestor was James, 1752/53 who settled in > Cumberland Co KY around 1799 and removed to Rutherford Co TN bet > 1821-1822.

    07/21/2007 08:32:48
    1. Re: [BP2000] Early PA Land Warrant indexes on-line
    2. Barry H. Beattie
    3. Thanks Laurel Baty, L252,, It appears to me that Francis Beaty (L -20) received a land warrant probably right next door to James Beaty (L - 98) on the same day and they appeared to be together at the time. <http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm>http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm Land Warrant Index Select Page 10 for Lancaster Co., Pa Item 141 Beaty, Francis Survey 200 Acres Donegal Twp, on Coney Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 142 Beaty, Francis Survey 300 Acres Pennsboro Twp on N.S. Yellow Breeches Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 143 Beaty, James Survey 400 Acres Pennsboro Twp on N.S. Yellow Breeches Creek dated 4 Feb 1737 Note: There is an identical 25 marker DNA match between a James Beaty and Francis Beaty "The Surveyor" and this is the first time that they have had documentation showing them located very close together. I have had documentation for James being located on the yellow Breeches Creek but we did not have any info for Francis "The Surveyor" actually located there also until now unless I am mistaken. Thanks again Laurel for this website. Barry H. Beattie, L - 98, San Marcos, San Diego Co. CA At 03:56 AM 7/21/2007, you wrote: >The PA State Archives has the indexes to Early PA Land Warrants >on-line, broken out by county. There are many Beattys (of all spellings). > >http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm > >Laurel Baty, L252 > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message > to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from > your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so > that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/21/2007 08:18:55
    1. [BP2000] Early PA Land Warrant indexes on-line
    2. Laurel Baty
    3. The PA State Archives has the indexes to Early PA Land Warrants on-line, broken out by county. There are many Beattys (of all spellings). http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/landrec.htm Laurel Baty, L252

    07/21/2007 12:56:02
    1. [BP2000] Forgot One
    2. Donna VanZandt
    3. THE COURIER Connellsville, Fayette co., PA Feb. 5, 1892 L-75 George E. Beatty and Miss Nellie Shaw overcame parental objection to their union, on Monday by eloping to Cumberland, where they were married. They returned home Tuesday and received the forgiveness and also the blessings of the bride's parents.

    07/20/2007 04:20:53
    1. [BP2000] Beatty Mention, NY, IA, MO, TN, Canada, OH, CA, MN, CO
    2. Donna VanZandt
    3. Does anyone recognize these Beatty's? Donna L-3 The New Era Humeston, Wayne co., IA Nov., 10, 1887 At a railway crossing at Steubenville, O., on the 2d Miss Hattie Turner was fatally injured and her escort, John G. Beatty, instantly killed. The Iowa City Citizen Iowa City, Johnson co., IA Dec 9, 1918 MRS. SADIE BEATTY DIED SUNDAY Mrs. Sadie Beatty of Iowa City died of pneumonia following influenza, Sunday morning near 9 o'clock on South dubuque street. She would have been forty-three years old the first of next year. Interment will be at Nichols on Wednesday afternoon at Nichols cemetery. The remains will be at the Harmon undertaking parlors until the funeral is held. THE SIKESTON HERALD Sikeston, Scott co., MO 24 Nov. 1949 FUNERAL SUNDAY FOR SIKESTON WOMAN Mrs. Mary Eliza Beaty, 80 years old, of Sikeston passed away last Friday. Funeral services were conducted at 2 o'clock Sunday afternoon at the Albritton Funeral home with Rev. Bartley Schwegler officiating. Burial was in the Mathews Cemetery. The following children survive: Mrs. Mary Haley of Hampshire, Tenn., Mrs. Anna Bolen and Mrs. Effie Morrison of Sikeston, Mrs. Estie Dawson of Paragould, Ark., Miss Bessie Beaty of Benton, Ark., Murphy Beaty of Trenton, Tenn., and Willie Beaty of Dell, Ark., 17 grandchildren and 12 great grandchildren. Mrs. Beaty was born January 16, 1869 in Perry, co., Tenn. Iowa City Daily Press Iowa City, Johnson co., IA July 16, 1915 A message from H. Earle Beatty at Los Angeles, Cal., announces the death of his father John S. Beatty, in that city. The decedent was a pioneer hardware merchant of Iowa City. (L-76) The Iowa City Citizen Iowa City, Johnson co., IA Nov. 3, 1909 ENGINEER AND FIREMAN KILLED Winnepeg, Man., Nov. 3.-A light engine on the Canadian Pacific Railway went over an enbankment on the Phoenix branch, near Nelson, killing Leo McAstoker, engineer, and George Beatty, fireman. The Kellogg Enterprise Kellogg, Jasper co., IA January 29, 1886 Mrs. Ed. Beatty died at Couch's coal bank one day last week of puerperal fever; Drs. Devore and Turner were in attendance. The Iowa Recorder Greene, Butler co., IA Feb., 9, 1910 Squire Beatty from Minnesota spent part of last week at the Ed Ashline home. Mrs. Beatty and Mrs. Ashline are sisters. Iowa City Daily Press Iowa City Johnson co., IA 15 Oct. 1915 The body of John Beatty who was drowned near Palo has been found in the Cedar River. Jan. 16, 1909 FOUND DEAD IN BATH TUB John C. Beatty of Mount Vernon, N. Y. Dies in Denver Denver, Col., Jan. 16.-John C. Beatty, aged 65, of Mount Vernon, N. Y., said to be a wealthy land owner, was found dead in a bath tub into which hot water was running yesterday. The body had evidently been in the water since midnight and was literally boiled. It is believed Mr. Beatty was stricken with heart failure.

    07/20/2007 04:15:49
    1. Re: [BP2000] L2 Beatys
    2. Willie R. Beaty
    3. If someone could just come up with some documentary evidence related to this "Billy Beaty" who is supposed to be the father of Andrew and Alexander. Did this Billy Beaty live and die in East TN? Or did he move to Cumberland Co KY or another location? It seems to me that somewhere there should be a trail for him. Any discovery here would possibly open up a whole new bunch of information. Nel, any ideas? If Andrew, Alexander, William (Saline Co MO), James (Rutherford Co TN), and James' older brother (un-named in James' pension application), were to turn out to be brothers, and if Phoebe is James' twin sister, all children of "Billy Beaty", then we have a family of six children, not including the three younger men, John, George and David who settled in Overton Co after 1800. In what counties and states have the records been searched for this Billy Beaty? Nel, is there any way to tie the William Beaty and Frances to the proposed Billy Beaty, father of Andrew and Alexander. Or is the single reference to him by the Meek woman, the only one we have? James is the only one who knew for certain which county and township that he was born in. Have we combed the Chester Co, Nottingham township PA area for a William "Billy" Beaty who would be old enough (b. 1740-ish, to have been Andrew's father, and 1725-30 to have been James' father, and then of course, there's James' older brother, which would push Billy's necessary age back another two years or so.) to fit the bill? I have questions. Not many answers, but am groping for clues and possibilities. Let's kick this around! Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 Beatys BP2000 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 189 > Hi Nel, > Yes, I do consider myself fortunate to have 3 lines of Beatys. I used to > think I was the Beaty-est person around but I know of someone else who has > 4 > lines, so I guess I can't claim that distinction anymore. : ) > Thanks for all this great info. About L2B, was it indeed the spread of > the > ages of David, George, John, Andrew & Alexander that caused them to be > discounted as all being brothers? During the early part of the 1900s & > prior to that time it wasn't unusual for women in that part of the country > to have children over a period of 20 yrs. or more. My foster grandmother > had children over a span of 24 yrs. One woman I know of had 20 children > over a span of 28 years. So I, personally, wouldn't rule out the > possibility of the 5 of them being brothers just on the span of their > ages. > The best of luck to you with your research. > Gerri > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Nel141@aol.com> > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 Beatys BP2000 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 189 > > >> >> Hello Gerri, >> Lucky you -- to have three lines of Beatys! >> >> I think the info you have on your Beatys is the most current. I have >> been >> working on some of my other lines recently, but don't think there have >> been >> any new developments in L2. >> >> One thought about L2E -- David & George are proven brothers and as far >> as >> I >> know, John is still assumed to be another brother. Some secondary >> sources >> still say they are all brothers of L2B Andrew & Alexander, but I think >> their >> ages negate that. My theory is that they might be nephews...or maybe >> cousins. >> >> >> As to L2B, I think that affidavits in the various pension and land bounty >> applications pretty much prove that William/Billy was the father of >> Andrew >> & >> Alexander. >> >> I'm working on some related clues, but nothing proven yet. >> >> There are land records in Washington Co., VA for William Beaty and his >> wife >> Frances indicating they sold at least part of their 250 acres on 15 Mile >> Creek in 1787. They had settled there in 1772. >> >> There is also a William Beaty with an NC land grant recorded in 1798 for >> 250 >> acres on Beaver Creek in Sullivan Co., TN. He sold 200 acres of it 3 >> Jan >> 1801. His son Alexander and Catherine Travis were married there in Dec >> 1801 >> [or maybe 1800 -- the statement is a little confusing] and they moved to >> KY. >> [Did he go with them or was he just "downsizing" in his retirement after >> all >> the boys moved away?] >> >> Will Beaty also turns up on a list of road builders for the >> establishment >> of >> a road about 1795 in what became Sullivan Co., TN from the "Coaling >> Ground >> Beaver Creek Iron Works onwards...". He is listed along with John >> Cooper >> (the >> father in law of his son Andrew Beaty), Julias Hacker, and others. John >> Cooper received a NC land patent dated 10 Nov 1784 for land in Sullivan >> Co. on >> Beaver Creek adjacent to Julias Hacker and William Baty. >> >> And most recently, I noticed the 1763 Will for Robert Boyd of Sadsbury, >> Chester Co., PA -- his daughter Frances and her husband William Beaty >> were living >> in West Fallowfield, Chester Co., PA at the time. I don't have proof >> that >> this is our Billy, but we know that his son Andrew was born somewhere in >> PA in >> 1761 and Chester Co. has been a strong possibility. >> >> Hope this answers some of your questions. Good luck with your research. >> >> Nel Rocklein L2B >> >> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:26:27 -0400 >> From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> >> Subject: [BP2000] L2Beatys >> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <000001c7c25b$10bb47b0$0402a8c0@yourt6b89spgxr> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I am descended from 4 L2 early Fentress Co. Beatys, all formerly thought >> to >> be children of John Beaty & Margaret Montgomery or John and his second >> wife. >> My paternal Beaty line descends from 1752-3 James, L2F. One of my >> maternal >> lines descends from his twin sister, Phoebe. Is there any evidence as >> to >> who >> their parents are? Another maternal line descends from 1758-61 Andrew, >> L2B. Is Billy still assumed to be his father? Another maternal line is >> from >> 1780 John, Jr., h/o Abigail, L2E. Are his brothers still believed to be >> David >> & George? Who is thought to be their parents? >> Gerri Beaty Goodwin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >> with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/20/2007 03:18:57
    1. Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA
    2. Willie R. Beaty
    3. Marlene, I'm not sharp in drawing conclusions from the DNA results, though I am very interested in discovering more specifically how these results might confirm or deny any of our paper trail information. I believe that I communicated with your L2D DNA donor, ID 31 after the results revealed a very close match GD at 37 markers with my brother, ID 55. Of what relation is this person to you? My most distant known ancestor was James, 1752/53 who settled in Cumberland Co KY around 1799 and removed to Rutherford Co TN bet 1821-1822. He was RW soldier and we have obtained much of our information from his pension application, in addition to land acquisitions in Cumberland Co KY and Rutherford Co TN, and his will made Rutherford Co TN in March 1835. We have never been able to absolutely identify any of the names of James' children, though the 1810 Cumberland Co KY census credits him with three dependent males and four dependent females between the ages 1-25. I definitely believe that James and the William who migrated to Saline Co MO were very close kin, perhaps brothers. Whether they were brothers to Alexander and Andrew, I'm not prepared to say yet. The other interesting very close DNA match is with L2E. This lineage includes three Beaty brothers who settled over in Overton (later Fentress) Co TN. They were John, David and George, born bet. 1780-1785. We have DNA results on several descendants of all three of these men. All are quite close, but we are especially close to John. Therefore, DNA would indicate that we are closely related to these men (two of the three have been proven brothers by documentary reference). Because all three have birthdates 1780-85, I have always wondered if James 1752/53 could not have been their father, but I have no proof. I would appreciate any affirmative or contrary thoughts that you or anyone on the list have on what I have said. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene" <viowl5894@earthlink.net> To: "BP2000 List" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] L2 and subgroups DNA > Wondering if any members from L2 group (A,B,C,D,E, F) have drawn any > conclusions or thoughts about the results of DNA testing of Lines 2B 2C, > 2D, 2E & 2 F. > > I am of the L2D--ID 31 on the charts results. > On the 25 marker tests...L2D shows an exact match to 13 Beaty, Beatty,etc. > and on the 67 markers results, - a genetic distance of (-1) to a > L2F(ID55) and an L1 (ID94). > On 67 markers a G.D. of (-2)to 4 persons inc. a L2B (1D19) and a L3 (ID > 1)..have not > identified the Lineage numbers on most of the testees - tho I have the > names. > L2D progenitor, William Beaty , - seems to have arrived in the > Fentress -Clinton Co. KY area at about the same time as other Beatys > (before 1800) and settled in Clinton Co. near Alexander, James, Andrew. > In 1827/28 , Williams and family moved to Saline Co. MO, as did one of > Alexander's sons. The relation of L2D to others of the area would be 7 > generations removed and I guess that is where the 'brick wall' is. > > Interpreting the test results have surpassed my feeble brains...just > wondering if anyone else , has any thoughts.. > > Marlene Beaty L2D (formerly L2C) > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/20/2007 04:43:00
    1. Re: [BP2000] Newspaper Blurbs
    2. Lois Kortering
    3. Donna, I just looked and you need to click on the "...........more," and then, go to the Ts, because it is "THE" KEYSTONE COURIER. Very Interesting blurbs! Lois Kortering ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netwtc.net> To: "BP2000" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: [BP2000] Newspaper Blurbs >I can't see to find this newspaper again on Ancestry. I hope I got > everything correct. I tried to double-check and it is not to be found. > Donna L-3 THE KEYSTONE COURIER Connellsville, Fayette co., PA ------------------------------------------------

    07/19/2007 05:28:00
    1. [BP2000] Website Update
    2. We have updated our DNA project website, www.beattydna.org . Most of the changes are cosmetic or editorial. However, a few new features have been added. Comments and suggestions are always welcome. Les Beaty, L-20

    07/19/2007 03:38:34
    1. [BP2000] NOTE FROM ADMINISTRATOR - PLEASE READ!
    2. Nelda Percival
    3. If you have more then one email account and you subscribe to a mailing list such as BP2000 you must send your emails to the list from the accounts email address. (the one you signed up from) In other words I'm signed up with my hotmail address nelda_percival@hotmail.com but I have a different email address at my ISP it is neldap@earthlink.net. I can not send messages from my earthlink account because they will bounce. Please remember to use the account you are signed up with.... not a alternative account. If you sign up with two accounts you will recieve two copies of every message so I don't think you want to do that either... So please remember if you send messages from an account that is not your BP2000 account then it will bounce as unsubscribed and I can not do anything about that... Nelda List admin. Nelda's websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ Remember me in the family tree, my name, my ways, my strife,then I'll fly upon the wings of time, and live an endless life..GOETSCH _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com

    07/19/2007 02:57:54
    1. [BP2000] Newspaper Blurbs
    2. Donna VanZandt
    3. I can't see to find this newspaper again on Ancestry. I hope I got everything correct. I tried to double-check and it is not to be found. Donna L-3 THE KEYSTONE COURIER Connellsville, Fayette co., PA June 5, 1885 TOO MANY WIVES The wife of Beatty McCoy of Latrobe, after following her runaway husband for six months at last found him in Washington City in company with a young lady of Derry. The man and wife were reunited and the other woman was sent home. February 25, 1887 George Beatty, of Hamburg, Iowa, who has been visiting relatives in this county has returned to his home. July 11, 1884 William Beaty, of Hancock, Pottawattamie county, Iowa, is visiting friends and relatives in various parts of Fayette county. Beaty was a resident of Nicholson township and at one time kept hotel in Uniontown. He left for the west twenty years ago. (L-230) February 17, 1888 On last Thursday evening Miss Lou, the twenty-year-old daughter of C. S. Beatty, of near Leisenring No. 3 was seriously and perhaps fatally burned. She was engaged in filling a patent carbon oil lamp while it was burning, when an explosion occurred which ignited her clothing. With great presence of mind the young lady ran out into the yard and rolled herself in the snow, but did not succeed in putting the fire out until she was terribly burned about the face and breast. Her outer clothing was almost entirely consumed. 1880: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania (L-54) Source: FHL Film 1255129 National Archives Film T9-1129 Page 155B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Charles S. BEATTY Self M M W 36 PA Occ: Teacher Fa: PA Mo: MD Rebecca BEATTY Wife F M W 40 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Leuella B. BEATTY Dau F S W 15 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Florence BEATTY Dau F S W 13 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA David W. BEATTY Son M S W 11 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Charles S. BEATTY Son M S W 7 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA James L. BEATTY Son M S W 5 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Sarah J. BEATTY Dau F S W 10 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Robert E. BEATTY Son M S W 4M PA Fa: PA Mo: PA

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    1. [BP2000] Obituary for Pauline Stults Beaty
    2. Willie R. Beaty
    3. Mrs. Pauline Stults Beaty was the wife of Robert Ray Beaty, a descendant of L2E John Beaty and Narcissa Hinds. Robert Ray Beaty1,William Robert Beaty2, Jeremiah B. Beaty3, John Beaty4. Willie Obituary Fentress Courier, Jamestown TN July 18, 2007: Pauline Stults Beaty, age 91, of Jamestown, passed away Wednesday, July 11, 2007 at Fentress Care and Rehabilitation Center. Mrs. Beaty was born June 2, 1916. She is survived by daughter, Nancy Gernt and husband David of Allardt; two brothers, John Stults and wife Oma of Wilder, TN and Jerry Stults and wife Charlotte of Indiana; four grandchildren; fourteen great-grandchildren; six great-great-grandchildren; and a host of neices, nephews and friends. Mrs. Beaty was preceded in death by parents, Dick and Suzie Rose Stults; husband Robert Ray Beaty; son, Robert A. Buddy Beaty; five brothers; and three sisters. Funeral services were held Friday, July 13, 2007 with burial following in the Taylor Place Cemetery.

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