Hi, BP2000 List, I recieved this emailand wondered if anyone here can help.. Nelda To: beatynyc@msn.comSubject: Margaret Ann BEATTY - Hardy Lucien HOLMESDate: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:52:35 -0500From: martinehaim@aim.comCC: naturalsoft@ameritech.net; Nelda_Percival@hotmail.comHello,I found your page while tracing my ancestors. My Aunt wrote me a letter with names that go back to a Margaret Holmes. She has a Bible that she says (or interprets) lists Margaret Holmes as the daughter of Theophilus Hunter Holmes (b:13NOV 1804 d:21JUN 1880), but I believe she is mistaken.This page lists a Margaret as the daughter of Hardy Lucian Holmes and Margaret Ann Beatty (b:5FEB 1801 d: 15FEB 1826)http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=stirk15apr2006&id=I18404However, that account lists the Harty/Margaret couple as Brother/Sister(IL) of Theophilis H H, whils this one lists the couple as Theophilus son.http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=katheetyson&id=I04475Any assistance in figuring out which one is correct would be appreciated.I am also trying to find information about Hardy and Margaret's children as well as their children's children.Thanks for any help, -Marty More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail!

The Bridgeport Telegram (Bridgeport, CT) January 29, 1923 BEATTY-Passed away in this city, Jan. 25, 1923, John A. Beatty, beloved husband of Jennie Wilson Beatty. Funeral from his late residence, 1018 Hancock Avenue, Monday, Jan. 29 at 2 p. m., services at Trinity Episcopal church, corner Fairfield avenue and Broad street at 2:30 p. m. Interment Mountain Grove cemetery. Benjamin F. Creamer, Inc., in charge. (Hancock Ave) 1900 United States Federal Census about Edith M Batty Name: Edith M Batty Home in 1900: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Birthplace: Connecticut Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter Father's Name: John A Mother's Name: Jenny J Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John A Batty, Jr. 29 head jan 1871 mar 7 ys Can Can Can (1891-9 ys NA)empl card & paper co. Jenny J Batty 25 wife nov 1874 mar 7 ys 2 ch 2 ch CT CT CT Edith M Batty 6 dau may 1894 CT Walter J Batty 2 son march 1898 CT 1900 United States Federal Census about John A Batty Name: John A Batty Home in 1900: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Birthplace: Canada;England Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Race: White Occupation: View Image Immigration Year: 1890 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John A Batty 55-aug 1844 mar 38 ys head Can Scot Can (1890-10 ys-alien) Sexton? Catherine Batty 59 wife feb 1841 mar 38 ys 11 ch 9 lvg Can Ire Ire (1890-10 ys) George F Batty 25 son feb 1874 Can Can Can 1890-10 ys -brass buffer William F Batty 22 dau mar 1878 Can Can Can elect switch inspect Emma E Batty 19 dau sep 1880 Can Can Can ribbon folder/fact Permelia C Batty 16 dau dec 1883 Can Can Can press hand in factory Edith D Batty 13 dau aug 1886 Can Can Can school 1910 United States Federal Census about Edith Batty Name: Edith Batty [Edith Butler] Age in 1910: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Birthplace: Connecticut Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: John Father's Birth Place: Canada English Mother's Name: Hodge Mother's Birth Place: Connecticut Home in 1910: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Batty 39 Can Can Can bartender-saloon Jennie Batty 38 wife CT CT CT Edith Batty 15 dau CT Walter Batty 12 son CT Jennie Batty 8 dau CT John Batty 6 son CT (1018 Hancock Ave) 1920 United States Federal Census about Jennie Batty Name: Jennie Batty Home in 1920: Bridgeport Ward 5, Fairfield, Connecticut Age: 48 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Birthplace: Connecticut Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: John Father's Birth Place: Connecticut Mother's Birth Place: Connecticut Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 324 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Batty 48 head imm 1892 NA 1892 Canada Canada Canada machinist in machine shop Jennie Batty 48 wife CT CT CT Edith Barrett 25 dau CT Can CT Michael Barrett 29 son in law CT Irel Irel John Batty 16 son CT Can CT Jennie Batty 18 dau CT Can CT 1930 United States Federal Census about Jennie Beatty Name: Jennie Beatty Home in 1930: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Birthplace: Connecticut Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law Race: White Household Members: Name Age John Lesko 29 head CT Hung Hung machinist-factory Jennie Lesko 27 wife CT Can CT Patricia Lesko 1 dau CT CT CT Jennie Beatty 57 mother in law Donna L-3

Hi John, You are lucky to have the Memoir of Rev William Gurley--it is quite fascinating reading! He mentions in the Memoir that James Beatty was a Land owner--so you would think the would have some deeds. Indexing the Beatty grantees would be a huge project! I plan to go back to the Family History Library and abstract the deeds from 1730 - 1768 (there are about 150 Beatty deeds all spellings)--I am not sure I can finish this in a week but I will try. I have a working index (I copied the index while I was there)--so I hope it will go faster this time. I would also like to abstract the deeds from 1785 -1800 but I doubt that I will have time on my next trip. You are right, the buried references to Beattys in deeds would be very helpful. Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Beatty" <jbeatty@acpl.lib.in.us> To: <laurelbaty@comcast.net>; <bp2000@rootsweb.com>; <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com>; <GenMatch@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] James Beatty County Wexford, Ireland, L24? > Laurel, > > Yes, this is my Lineage 24. The Irish Ancestor was a wonderful > publication. Too bad it ceased publishing. > > I meant to tell you how much I appreciated your Irish deed abstracts. > The index is only by grantor, which leaves the many Beatty grantees > unindexed. A much bigger task, which maybe some day I will undertake, > is to go through all of the deed indexes to 1800 and pull out all of > the references to Beatty grantees. > > That still leaves the many "buried" references to Beattys in the deeds, > instances where neither the grantor nor the grantee was a Beatty, but a > Beatty had adjoining land or signed as a witness. I believe a major > clue to my lineage 24, the parentage of this James, lies buried in one > of these deeds, and I suspect the same is true of others who are stuck > in the 18th century. Crossle abstracted a few deeds, but there were > many that he missed. > > There is a gentleman in Australia who is attempting to recruit > volunteers to digitize, index/abstract all of the Irish deeds. I don't > have the URL but can get it if you are interested. > > John > L-24 > > > >>>> laurelbaty@comcast.net 12/13/2007 3:17 PM >>> > Irish Ancestor, Vol X, No. 2 [Available on CD from Eneclann, Dublin], > pages > 70 -71 > > GURLY OF WEXFORD AND CARLOW, THE MATERNAL LINEAGE OF > GEORGE BERNARD SHAW > by Brian de Breffny > JAMES GURLY. m (who was bur. at Wexford 7 Sept. 1741 as "Mrs. Gurly") > and had issue, > 1. probably James, who seems to have been the eldest son, and of whom > presently. > 2. Margaret, bapt. 17 Nov. 1699 (Wexford). > 3. Margaret, bapt. 12 Oct. 1700 (Wexford). > 4. John, of Wexford, hatter, bapt. 30 Aug. 1705 (Wexford), dead in Jan. > > 1776; > described as "feltmaker" in 1735 when he leased from Richard Fell of > Wexford > "a > kitchen with a room adjoining the streetway . . . . with a garden all > in and > belonging > to the house wherein the said Richard Fell then dwelt in the great > street > leading to > the stone bridge", for a year from 1 May 1736 at £2 10s. per annum "and > a > good > felt hat", with the proviso that if Gurly found the premises suited his > > business Fell > would, at the end of the lease, grant another for a term of years. The > deed, > and its > memorial in 1738, was witnessed by James Gurly (Reg. of Deeds 93 323 > 65619). > 69 > John m. Sarah, dau. of Jonas Chamberlin of Wexford, a Quaker, by his > wife > Mary > Boles, and by her (who was b. 16 Oct. 1723 at Killane, Co. Wexford and > was > living, > as a widow, at Wexford in Jan. 1776) had issue, bapt. at Wexford, > a. Mary, bapt. 16 May 1745. > b. Anne, bapt. 1 May 1748, m. 29 Nov. 1781 (Wexford) John Smyth of > Wexford, > hatter. > c. a child, bur. 3 Jan. 1750 (Wexford). > d. probably John, of Wexford, hatter, m. 20 Sept. 1784 (Wexford) Mary > Troy, > and > had issue, > (1) John, sexton, and apparitor of the Ecclesiastical Court of Ferns, > bapt. > 20 > Nov. 1785 (Wexford), d. 23 May 1867 at Wexford; m. 24 Sept. 1807 > (Wexford) Anna Kinsula, of Wexford and by her (who d. 14 Jan. 1872 at > West Gate, Wexford aged 90) had issue, > i. Maryann.bapt. 12 Jan. 1812 (Wexford). > ii. William, bapt. 23 Jan. 1814 (Wexford). > (2) Thomas, bapt. 3 Feb. 1788 (Wexford). > (3) Mary, bapt. 5 Feb. 1790 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) > Mathew > McGill, and had issue. > (4) Sarah, bapt. 25 March 1792 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) > Daniel > Underwood. > (5) Margaret, bapt. 22 June 1794 (Wexford), d. unm. at Wexford 8 Oct. > 1865. > (6) Robert, bapt. 12 March 1796 (Wexford), living at Liverpool, > Lanes., > England, in 1867. > (7) Elizabeth, bapt. 13 March 1803 (Wexford). > (8) William, bapt. 8 April 1806 (Wexford). > e. another son. > f. William, b. according to himself, 12 March 1757 at Wexford. In an > account > of > his life he wrote "As to my ancestors I can give but little > information. My > father died when I was a child; consequently, I was deprived from > obtaining > intelligence from that quarter . . . . Two of my brothers and two of my > > sisters > were older than myself. I had but one younger brother." He was > apprenticed > to a silversmith and jeweller and exercised this trade in Wexford. Due > to > his > wife's fears after the massacres in Wexford during the 1798 Rising, he > sold > his > business and took his family first to Liverpool for two years, then to > New > London and Norwich. Connecticut, and in 1811 to Ohio, settling first at > a > place > now called Bloomingville and finally, in 1819, at Milan, Ohio, where he > > lived > until his death on 10 Feb. 1848 aged 90. He had joined the Methodists > in > Wexford where he was licensed as a local preacher. In 1811 at > Bloomingville > he organized the first Methodist society west of Cleveland. His > biography, > Memoir of Rev. William Gurley, by his son Leonard B. Gurley, was > published > by > the Methodist Book Concern, Main and 8th Street, Cincinnati, Ohio, in > 1861. > He > m. 12 Nov. 1795 Susannah, dau. of JAMES BEATTY of Ballycanew, Co. > Wexford, > and by her had issue, > (1) John, b. 27 Dec. 1796 at Ballycanew, d. Oct. 1798. > (2) Ann Clarissa, b. 23 Feb. 1799 at Liverpool, d. 1841 ;m. 1818 John > Broadhead > of Milan, Ohio, and had issue. > (3) James, b. 29 Oct. 1800 at Dublin, d. 17 Oct. 1886. He remained in > Ireland > with a maternal uncle and aunt when his parents emigrated to the US., > and was sent to school in Wexford; in 1815 he joined his parents in > Ohio > where he spent his adult life as a Methodist minister. He m. Elizabeth > Rebekah, dau. of General James Walter of Winchester, Rockingham Co., > Virginia, and widow o f . . . . Stockard, and had issue and > descendants. > (4) Sarah, b. 19 March 1802 at Norwich, Conn. > (5) Leonard Beatty, b. 10 March 1804 at Norwich. > (6) Elizabeth Johnson, b. 5 April 1806 at Norwich, d. 5 April 1822. > (7) William, b. 1808 at Norwich, d. in infancy. > (8) William Dempster, b. 31 July 1811 at Norwich. > (9) John Beatty. b. 19 Dec. 1813 at Zanesville.Ohio. > (10) Susannah, b. 31 Aug. 1816 at Zanesville. > (11) Dempster Beatty, b. 31 Oct. 1811 at Milan, Ohio, d. there 18 Oct. > 1835. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laurel, Yes, this is my Lineage 24. The Irish Ancestor was a wonderful publication. Too bad it ceased publishing. I meant to tell you how much I appreciated your Irish deed abstracts. The index is only by grantor, which leaves the many Beatty grantees unindexed. A much bigger task, which maybe some day I will undertake, is to go through all of the deed indexes to 1800 and pull out all of the references to Beatty grantees. That still leaves the many "buried" references to Beattys in the deeds, instances where neither the grantor nor the grantee was a Beatty, but a Beatty had adjoining land or signed as a witness. I believe a major clue to my lineage 24, the parentage of this James, lies buried in one of these deeds, and I suspect the same is true of others who are stuck in the 18th century. Crossle abstracted a few deeds, but there were many that he missed. There is a gentleman in Australia who is attempting to recruit volunteers to digitize, index/abstract all of the Irish deeds. I don't have the URL but can get it if you are interested. John L-24 >>> laurelbaty@comcast.net 12/13/2007 3:17 PM >>> Irish Ancestor, Vol X, No. 2 [Available on CD from Eneclann, Dublin], pages 70 -71 GURLY OF WEXFORD AND CARLOW, THE MATERNAL LINEAGE OF GEORGE BERNARD SHAW by Brian de Breffny JAMES GURLY. m (who was bur. at Wexford 7 Sept. 1741 as "Mrs. Gurly") and had issue, 1. probably James, who seems to have been the eldest son, and of whom presently. 2. Margaret, bapt. 17 Nov. 1699 (Wexford). 3. Margaret, bapt. 12 Oct. 1700 (Wexford). 4. John, of Wexford, hatter, bapt. 30 Aug. 1705 (Wexford), dead in Jan. 1776; described as "feltmaker" in 1735 when he leased from Richard Fell of Wexford "a kitchen with a room adjoining the streetway . . . . with a garden all in and belonging to the house wherein the said Richard Fell then dwelt in the great street leading to the stone bridge", for a year from 1 May 1736 at £2 10s. per annum "and a good felt hat", with the proviso that if Gurly found the premises suited his business Fell would, at the end of the lease, grant another for a term of years. The deed, and its memorial in 1738, was witnessed by James Gurly (Reg. of Deeds 93 323 65619). 69 John m. Sarah, dau. of Jonas Chamberlin of Wexford, a Quaker, by his wife Mary Boles, and by her (who was b. 16 Oct. 1723 at Killane, Co. Wexford and was living, as a widow, at Wexford in Jan. 1776) had issue, bapt. at Wexford, a. Mary, bapt. 16 May 1745. b. Anne, bapt. 1 May 1748, m. 29 Nov. 1781 (Wexford) John Smyth of Wexford, hatter. c. a child, bur. 3 Jan. 1750 (Wexford). d. probably John, of Wexford, hatter, m. 20 Sept. 1784 (Wexford) Mary Troy, and had issue, (1) John, sexton, and apparitor of the Ecclesiastical Court of Ferns, bapt. 20 Nov. 1785 (Wexford), d. 23 May 1867 at Wexford; m. 24 Sept. 1807 (Wexford) Anna Kinsula, of Wexford and by her (who d. 14 Jan. 1872 at West Gate, Wexford aged 90) had issue, i. Maryann.bapt. 12 Jan. 1812 (Wexford). ii. William, bapt. 23 Jan. 1814 (Wexford). (2) Thomas, bapt. 3 Feb. 1788 (Wexford). (3) Mary, bapt. 5 Feb. 1790 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) Mathew McGill, and had issue. (4) Sarah, bapt. 25 March 1792 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) Daniel Underwood. (5) Margaret, bapt. 22 June 1794 (Wexford), d. unm. at Wexford 8 Oct. 1865. (6) Robert, bapt. 12 March 1796 (Wexford), living at Liverpool, Lanes., England, in 1867. (7) Elizabeth, bapt. 13 March 1803 (Wexford). (8) William, bapt. 8 April 1806 (Wexford). e. another son. f. William, b. according to himself, 12 March 1757 at Wexford. In an account of his life he wrote "As to my ancestors I can give but little information. My father died when I was a child; consequently, I was deprived from obtaining intelligence from that quarter . . . . Two of my brothers and two of my sisters were older than myself. I had but one younger brother." He was apprenticed to a silversmith and jeweller and exercised this trade in Wexford. Due to his wife's fears after the massacres in Wexford during the 1798 Rising, he sold his business and took his family first to Liverpool for two years, then to New London and Norwich. Connecticut, and in 1811 to Ohio, settling first at a place now called Bloomingville and finally, in 1819, at Milan, Ohio, where he lived until his death on 10 Feb. 1848 aged 90. He had joined the Methodists in Wexford where he was licensed as a local preacher. In 1811 at Bloomingville he organized the first Methodist society west of Cleveland. His biography, Memoir of Rev. William Gurley, by his son Leonard B. Gurley, was published by the Methodist Book Concern, Main and 8th Street, Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1861. He m. 12 Nov. 1795 Susannah, dau. of JAMES BEATTY of Ballycanew, Co. Wexford, and by her had issue, (1) John, b. 27 Dec. 1796 at Ballycanew, d. Oct. 1798. (2) Ann Clarissa, b. 23 Feb. 1799 at Liverpool, d. 1841 ;m. 1818 John Broadhead of Milan, Ohio, and had issue. (3) James, b. 29 Oct. 1800 at Dublin, d. 17 Oct. 1886. He remained in Ireland with a maternal uncle and aunt when his parents emigrated to the US., and was sent to school in Wexford; in 1815 he joined his parents in Ohio where he spent his adult life as a Methodist minister. He m. Elizabeth Rebekah, dau. of General James Walter of Winchester, Rockingham Co., Virginia, and widow o f . . . . Stockard, and had issue and descendants. (4) Sarah, b. 19 March 1802 at Norwich, Conn. (5) Leonard Beatty, b. 10 March 1804 at Norwich. (6) Elizabeth Johnson, b. 5 April 1806 at Norwich, d. 5 April 1822. (7) William, b. 1808 at Norwich, d. in infancy. (8) William Dempster, b. 31 July 1811 at Norwich. (9) John Beatty. b. 19 Dec. 1813 at Zanesville.Ohio. (10) Susannah, b. 31 Aug. 1816 at Zanesville. (11) Dempster Beatty, b. 31 Oct. 1811 at Milan, Ohio, d. there 18 Oct. 1835. Laurel Baty, L252 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The "Memoir of Rev. William Gurley, Late of Milan Ohio" is available on googlebooks--it is searchable and has some additional references to the family of Rev Gurley's wife, Susannah Beatty Gurley. She has a brother James Beatty who remained in Ireland and a child James, named after his grandfather James Beatty, who remained in Ireland with his grandparents for some years. http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=F7sEAAAAYAAJ&dq=%22memoir+of+rev+william+gurley%22&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=-VgzpfInzS&sig=TITBSyVGgVzwt3XXTgazxlJ9ezY#PPA214,M1 Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com>; <GenMatch@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: [BP2000] James Beatty County Wexford, Ireland, L24? Irish Ancestor, Vol X, No. 2 [Available on CD from Eneclann, Dublin], pages 70 -71 GURLY OF WEXFORD AND CARLOW, THE MATERNAL LINEAGE OF GEORGE BERNARD SHAW by Brian de Breffny JAMES GURLY. m (who was bur. at Wexford 7 Sept. 1741 as "Mrs. Gurly") and had issue, 1. probably James, who seems to have been the eldest son, and of whom presently. 2. Margaret, bapt. 17 Nov. 1699 (Wexford). 3. Margaret, bapt. 12 Oct. 1700 (Wexford). 4. John, of Wexford, hatter, bapt. 30 Aug. 1705 (Wexford), dead in Jan. 1776; described as "feltmaker" in 1735 when he leased from Richard Fell of Wexford "a kitchen with a room adjoining the streetway . . . . with a garden all in and belonging to the house wherein the said Richard Fell then dwelt in the great street leading to the stone bridge", for a year from 1 May 1736 at £2 10s. per annum "and a good felt hat", with the proviso that if Gurly found the premises suited his business Fell would, at the end of the lease, grant another for a term of years. The deed, and its memorial in 1738, was witnessed by James Gurly (Reg. of Deeds 93 323 65619). 69 John m. Sarah, dau. of Jonas Chamberlin of Wexford, a Quaker, by his wife Mary Boles, and by her (who was b. 16 Oct. 1723 at Killane, Co. Wexford and was living, as a widow, at Wexford in Jan. 1776) had issue, bapt. at Wexford, a. Mary, bapt. 16 May 1745. b. Anne, bapt. 1 May 1748, m. 29 Nov. 1781 (Wexford) John Smyth of Wexford, hatter. c. a child, bur. 3 Jan. 1750 (Wexford). d. probably John, of Wexford, hatter, m. 20 Sept. 1784 (Wexford) Mary Troy, and had issue, (1) John, sexton, and apparitor of the Ecclesiastical Court of Ferns, bapt. 20 Nov. 1785 (Wexford), d. 23 May 1867 at Wexford; m. 24 Sept. 1807 (Wexford) Anna Kinsula, of Wexford and by her (who d. 14 Jan. 1872 at West Gate, Wexford aged 90) had issue, i. Maryann.bapt. 12 Jan. 1812 (Wexford). ii. William, bapt. 23 Jan. 1814 (Wexford). (2) Thomas, bapt. 3 Feb. 1788 (Wexford). (3) Mary, bapt. 5 Feb. 1790 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) Mathew McGill, and had issue. (4) Sarah, bapt. 25 March 1792 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) Daniel Underwood. (5) Margaret, bapt. 22 June 1794 (Wexford), d. unm. at Wexford 8 Oct. 1865. (6) Robert, bapt. 12 March 1796 (Wexford), living at Liverpool, Lanes., England, in 1867. (7) Elizabeth, bapt. 13 March 1803 (Wexford). (8) William, bapt. 8 April 1806 (Wexford). e. another son. f. William, b. according to himself, 12 March 1757 at Wexford. In an account of his life he wrote "As to my ancestors I can give but little information. My father died when I was a child; consequently, I was deprived from obtaining intelligence from that quarter . . . . Two of my brothers and two of my sisters were older than myself. I had but one younger brother." He was apprenticed to a silversmith and jeweller and exercised this trade in Wexford. Due to his wife's fears after the massacres in Wexford during the 1798 Rising, he sold his business and took his family first to Liverpool for two years, then to New London and Norwich. Connecticut, and in 1811 to Ohio, settling first at a place now called Bloomingville and finally, in 1819, at Milan, Ohio, where he lived until his death on 10 Feb. 1848 aged 90. He had joined the Methodists in Wexford where he was licensed as a local preacher. In 1811 at Bloomingville he organized the first Methodist society west of Cleveland. His biography, Memoir of Rev. William Gurley, by his son Leonard B. Gurley, was published by the Methodist Book Concern, Main and 8th Street, Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1861. He m. 12 Nov. 1795 Susannah, dau. of JAMES BEATTY of Ballycanew, Co. Wexford, and by her had issue, (1) John, b. 27 Dec. 1796 at Ballycanew, d. Oct. 1798. (2) Ann Clarissa, b. 23 Feb. 1799 at Liverpool, d. 1841 ;m. 1818 John Broadhead of Milan, Ohio, and had issue. (3) James, b. 29 Oct. 1800 at Dublin, d. 17 Oct. 1886. He remained in Ireland with a maternal uncle and aunt when his parents emigrated to the US., and was sent to school in Wexford; in 1815 he joined his parents in Ohio where he spent his adult life as a Methodist minister. He m. Elizabeth Rebekah, dau. of General James Walter of Winchester, Rockingham Co., Virginia, and widow o f . . . . Stockard, and had issue and descendants. (4) Sarah, b. 19 March 1802 at Norwich, Conn. (5) Leonard Beatty, b. 10 March 1804 at Norwich. (6) Elizabeth Johnson, b. 5 April 1806 at Norwich, d. 5 April 1822. (7) William, b. 1808 at Norwich, d. in infancy. (8) William Dempster, b. 31 July 1811 at Norwich. (9) John Beatty. b. 19 Dec. 1813 at Zanesville.Ohio. (10) Susannah, b. 31 Aug. 1816 at Zanesville. (11) Dempster Beatty, b. 31 Oct. 1811 at Milan, Ohio, d. there 18 Oct. 1835. 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Irish Ancestor, Vol X, No. 2 [Available on CD from Eneclann, Dublin], pages 70 -71 GURLY OF WEXFORD AND CARLOW, THE MATERNAL LINEAGE OF GEORGE BERNARD SHAW by Brian de Breffny JAMES GURLY. m (who was bur. at Wexford 7 Sept. 1741 as "Mrs. Gurly") and had issue, 1. probably James, who seems to have been the eldest son, and of whom presently. 2. Margaret, bapt. 17 Nov. 1699 (Wexford). 3. Margaret, bapt. 12 Oct. 1700 (Wexford). 4. John, of Wexford, hatter, bapt. 30 Aug. 1705 (Wexford), dead in Jan. 1776; described as "feltmaker" in 1735 when he leased from Richard Fell of Wexford "a kitchen with a room adjoining the streetway . . . . with a garden all in and belonging to the house wherein the said Richard Fell then dwelt in the great street leading to the stone bridge", for a year from 1 May 1736 at £2 10s. per annum "and a good felt hat", with the proviso that if Gurly found the premises suited his business Fell would, at the end of the lease, grant another for a term of years. The deed, and its memorial in 1738, was witnessed by James Gurly (Reg. of Deeds 93 323 65619). 69 John m. Sarah, dau. of Jonas Chamberlin of Wexford, a Quaker, by his wife Mary Boles, and by her (who was b. 16 Oct. 1723 at Killane, Co. Wexford and was living, as a widow, at Wexford in Jan. 1776) had issue, bapt. at Wexford, a. Mary, bapt. 16 May 1745. b. Anne, bapt. 1 May 1748, m. 29 Nov. 1781 (Wexford) John Smyth of Wexford, hatter. c. a child, bur. 3 Jan. 1750 (Wexford). d. probably John, of Wexford, hatter, m. 20 Sept. 1784 (Wexford) Mary Troy, and had issue, (1) John, sexton, and apparitor of the Ecclesiastical Court of Ferns, bapt. 20 Nov. 1785 (Wexford), d. 23 May 1867 at Wexford; m. 24 Sept. 1807 (Wexford) Anna Kinsula, of Wexford and by her (who d. 14 Jan. 1872 at West Gate, Wexford aged 90) had issue, i. Maryann.bapt. 12 Jan. 1812 (Wexford). ii. William, bapt. 23 Jan. 1814 (Wexford). (2) Thomas, bapt. 3 Feb. 1788 (Wexford). (3) Mary, bapt. 5 Feb. 1790 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) Mathew McGill, and had issue. (4) Sarah, bapt. 25 March 1792 (Wexford), m. 26 March 1811 (Wexford) Daniel Underwood. (5) Margaret, bapt. 22 June 1794 (Wexford), d. unm. at Wexford 8 Oct. 1865. (6) Robert, bapt. 12 March 1796 (Wexford), living at Liverpool, Lanes., England, in 1867. (7) Elizabeth, bapt. 13 March 1803 (Wexford). (8) William, bapt. 8 April 1806 (Wexford). e. another son. f. William, b. according to himself, 12 March 1757 at Wexford. In an account of his life he wrote "As to my ancestors I can give but little information. My father died when I was a child; consequently, I was deprived from obtaining intelligence from that quarter . . . . Two of my brothers and two of my sisters were older than myself. I had but one younger brother." He was apprenticed to a silversmith and jeweller and exercised this trade in Wexford. Due to his wife's fears after the massacres in Wexford during the 1798 Rising, he sold his business and took his family first to Liverpool for two years, then to New London and Norwich. Connecticut, and in 1811 to Ohio, settling first at a place now called Bloomingville and finally, in 1819, at Milan, Ohio, where he lived until his death on 10 Feb. 1848 aged 90. He had joined the Methodists in Wexford where he was licensed as a local preacher. In 1811 at Bloomingville he organized the first Methodist society west of Cleveland. His biography, Memoir of Rev. William Gurley, by his son Leonard B. Gurley, was published by the Methodist Book Concern, Main and 8th Street, Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1861. He m. 12 Nov. 1795 Susannah, dau. of JAMES BEATTY of Ballycanew, Co. Wexford, and by her had issue, (1) John, b. 27 Dec. 1796 at Ballycanew, d. Oct. 1798. (2) Ann Clarissa, b. 23 Feb. 1799 at Liverpool, d. 1841 ;m. 1818 John Broadhead of Milan, Ohio, and had issue. (3) James, b. 29 Oct. 1800 at Dublin, d. 17 Oct. 1886. He remained in Ireland with a maternal uncle and aunt when his parents emigrated to the US., and was sent to school in Wexford; in 1815 he joined his parents in Ohio where he spent his adult life as a Methodist minister. He m. Elizabeth Rebekah, dau. of General James Walter of Winchester, Rockingham Co., Virginia, and widow o f . . . . Stockard, and had issue and descendants. (4) Sarah, b. 19 March 1802 at Norwich, Conn. (5) Leonard Beatty, b. 10 March 1804 at Norwich. (6) Elizabeth Johnson, b. 5 April 1806 at Norwich, d. 5 April 1822. (7) William, b. 1808 at Norwich, d. in infancy. (8) William Dempster, b. 31 July 1811 at Norwich. (9) John Beatty. b. 19 Dec. 1813 at Zanesville.Ohio. (10) Susannah, b. 31 Aug. 1816 at Zanesville. (11) Dempster Beatty, b. 31 Oct. 1811 at Milan, Ohio, d. there 18 Oct. 1835. Laurel Baty, L252

I found the following book on Googlebooks--"The Border Antiquities of England and Scotland" by Sir Walter Scott and think it must be the work referred to in Gordon Beattie's book. A search for Beatties in the book did bring any hits but a search for Eskdale brought a mention of the Beattie clan on page XC. "Beattisons or Beatties a name still numerous on the Borders. They were dispossessed of large possessions in Eskdale by the Scotts, who killed many of them in the struggle. The name of their chief was unknown. The last was called The Galliard, slain at the Galliard's-Haugh, near Langholm." If you can't afford the signed first edition of this book (over $6000.00) available on Abebooks--Google Books is a great alternative! If the link does not work just google the title and you should be able to find the book. It has nice illustrations and looks very interesting. http://books.google.com/books?id=N9zVBQGNB1MC&pg=RA5-PA171&lpg=RA5-PA171&dq=the+border+antiquities+of+england+and+scotland&source=web&ots=ZsK3Vx8wNX&sig=YuTGopYFytmmHS3slR71WnzBtUY Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Wm Beattie Bio/Sir Walter Scott >I found the following additional comment on Sir Walter Scott's 'Beattie > lore' in the book "Beat A'" by Gordon Beattie, 1991, Ampleforth Abbey, p. > 36: > The story of the Border Reivers was also passed on by Sir Walter Scott. > Miss Beattie, of Crieve, says that her ancestor the Laird of Meikledale, > just north of Langholm, supplied Sir Walter Scott with much of the > information concerning Eskdale which he gives in "Antiquities of the > Scottish Borders", as well as many tales and traditions introduced into > his > "Minstrelsy" and "Lay of the last Minstrel." > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netwtc.net> > To: "BP2000" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:46 PM > Subject: [BP2000] Wm Beattie Bio/Sir Walter Scott > > >> When I posted this bio it read like there was a known genealogy of the >> Beattie family made famous by Sir Walter Scott. Have any of our members >> seen >> any genealogy which references Sir Walter Scott's work. It is referenced >> below and is I suspect the Sir Walter Scott Beattie family claimed in the >> bio. >> >> Representative Men and Old Families of Southeastern Massachusetts-1912 >> WILLIAM BEATTIE, now living retired, but in his active life one of the >> large >> quarrymen and contractors in his line in southern Massachusetts, a man >> who >> won success by his own work and gained position on his own merits, was >> born >> Oct. 4, 1829, in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a younger brother of John Beattie, >> quarryman and contractor, late of Leete Island, Guilford, who was born in >> Edinburgh, Scotland, June 18, 1820. John Beattie, their father, was a >> freeman of that city, and a direct descendant of that noted Beattie >> family >> of Eskdale Moore, in Dumfriesshire, Scotland, whose ancestry has been >> traced >> back more than six centuries, and whose valor and exploits in peace and >> war >> have been celebrated in the story and song of that country by Sir Walter >> Scott and others. On the paternal side his grandmother was Nancy >> Armstrong, >> a descendant of the Johnson family, of >> Dumiriesshire, also prominent in the affairs of >> Scotland........................ >> >> http://www.araltas.com/features/beatty/ >> >> For over 350 years up to the end of the 16th century what are now >> Northumberland, Cumbria, The Scottish Borders, Dumfries and Galloway rang >> to >> the clash of steel and the thunder of hooves. Robbery and blackmail were >> everyday professions, raiding, arson, kidnapping, murder and extortion an >> accepted part of the social system. While the monarchs of England and >> Scotland ruled the comparatively secure hearts of their kingdoms, the >> narrow >> hill land between was dominated by the lance and the sword. The tribal >> leaders from their towers, the broken men and outlaws of the mosses, the >> ordinary peasants of the valleys, in their own phrase, 'shook loose the >> Border'. They continued to shake it as long as it was political reality, >> practising systematic robbery and destruction on each other. History has >> christened them the Border Reivers. They gave the words "blackmail" and >> "bereaved" to the English language. The stamp of the Reivers is still to >> be >> seen on the Border Lands - in it's architecture, culture and people. From >> the secretive fortified towns and farms to names that once struck fear >> into >> men's hearts - Armstrongs, Grahams, Kerrs, Nixons, Robsons, Beatties - >> the >> legacy of the Reivers remains. >> >> In 1455, the Beatties aided Red Douglas in the overthrow of Black Douglas >> at >> the battle of Arkinhom. As a reward King James II made several grants of >> land to the Beatties for their services to the Crown. This firmly >> established the family around Langholm and the Eskdale area. In 1504, >> Adam >> Batie was hanged by the criminal court at Dumfries for being part of the >> "king's rebels of Eskdale". In 1537 King James V stripped the Beatties of >> Eskdale of their lands and granted these to Robert Lord Maxwell. When >> Maxwell summoned the Beatties to acknowledge him as their feudal >> superior, >> the Beatties declared the royal grant was unjust. As the Beatties were >> mustering against him Ronald Beattie, the chief, gave Maxwell a fast, >> white >> mare to flee on. Maxwell shortly sold the lands to Scott, Warden of the >> Middle Marches. Scott and his men seized the Beattie possessions and >> divided >> up the Beattie estates. Maxwell, however, appealed to Scott to reward >> Ronald >> Beattie for saving Maxwell's life. As a result, Beattie was given the >> perpetual tenant-right of Watcarrick, one mile south of Eskdalemuir. Sir >> Walter Scott states that the Beattie descendants continued to occupy >> Watcarrick into the nineteenth century. Nonetheless, many of the family >> were >> dispersed following the events of 1537 and sought refuge in the north of >> Scotland, Ireland and Galloway. In 1544, Beatties and other Border clans >> came under the English. 116 Beatties were noted under the leadership of a >> Sander Beattie. In 1547 and 1548, under English leadership, the Lennoxes, >> Armstrongs, Beatties and Littles sacked and burned the town of Annan. In >> 1585, the Maxwells, Armstrongs, Scotts, Beatties and Littles attacked the >> Johnstone castle of Lockwood. In 1598, more Beatties were dispersed and >> the >> clan was effectively broken up. Some went to Northumberland in England >> from >> where they had migrated five hundred years earlier while others went to >> Ireland. In 1603, James VI finally broke the power of the Reivers >> although >> in 1618, the list of "last of the Border blackguards" included the family >> name of Beattie. >> >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >> with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I found the following additional comment on Sir Walter Scott's 'Beattie lore' in the book "Beat A'" by Gordon Beattie, 1991, Ampleforth Abbey, p. 36: The story of the Border Reivers was also passed on by Sir Walter Scott. Miss Beattie, of Crieve, says that her ancestor the Laird of Meikledale, just north of Langholm, supplied Sir Walter Scott with much of the information concerning Eskdale which he gives in "Antiquities of the Scottish Borders", as well as many tales and traditions introduced into his "Minstrelsy" and "Lay of the last Minstrel." Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netwtc.net> To: "BP2000" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: [BP2000] Wm Beattie Bio/Sir Walter Scott > When I posted this bio it read like there was a known genealogy of the > Beattie family made famous by Sir Walter Scott. Have any of our members > seen > any genealogy which references Sir Walter Scott's work. It is referenced > below and is I suspect the Sir Walter Scott Beattie family claimed in the > bio. > > Representative Men and Old Families of Southeastern Massachusetts-1912 > WILLIAM BEATTIE, now living retired, but in his active life one of the > large > quarrymen and contractors in his line in southern Massachusetts, a man who > won success by his own work and gained position on his own merits, was > born > Oct. 4, 1829, in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a younger brother of John Beattie, > quarryman and contractor, late of Leete Island, Guilford, who was born in > Edinburgh, Scotland, June 18, 1820. John Beattie, their father, was a > freeman of that city, and a direct descendant of that noted Beattie family > of Eskdale Moore, in Dumfriesshire, Scotland, whose ancestry has been > traced > back more than six centuries, and whose valor and exploits in peace and > war > have been celebrated in the story and song of that country by Sir Walter > Scott and others. On the paternal side his grandmother was Nancy > Armstrong, > a descendant of the Johnson family, of > Dumiriesshire, also prominent in the affairs of > Scotland........................ > > http://www.araltas.com/features/beatty/ > > For over 350 years up to the end of the 16th century what are now > Northumberland, Cumbria, The Scottish Borders, Dumfries and Galloway rang > to > the clash of steel and the thunder of hooves. Robbery and blackmail were > everyday professions, raiding, arson, kidnapping, murder and extortion an > accepted part of the social system. While the monarchs of England and > Scotland ruled the comparatively secure hearts of their kingdoms, the > narrow > hill land between was dominated by the lance and the sword. The tribal > leaders from their towers, the broken men and outlaws of the mosses, the > ordinary peasants of the valleys, in their own phrase, 'shook loose the > Border'. They continued to shake it as long as it was political reality, > practising systematic robbery and destruction on each other. History has > christened them the Border Reivers. They gave the words "blackmail" and > "bereaved" to the English language. The stamp of the Reivers is still to > be > seen on the Border Lands - in it's architecture, culture and people. From > the secretive fortified towns and farms to names that once struck fear > into > men's hearts - Armstrongs, Grahams, Kerrs, Nixons, Robsons, Beatties - the > legacy of the Reivers remains. > > In 1455, the Beatties aided Red Douglas in the overthrow of Black Douglas > at > the battle of Arkinhom. As a reward King James II made several grants of > land to the Beatties for their services to the Crown. This firmly > established the family around Langholm and the Eskdale area. In 1504, Adam > Batie was hanged by the criminal court at Dumfries for being part of the > "king's rebels of Eskdale". In 1537 King James V stripped the Beatties of > Eskdale of their lands and granted these to Robert Lord Maxwell. When > Maxwell summoned the Beatties to acknowledge him as their feudal superior, > the Beatties declared the royal grant was unjust. As the Beatties were > mustering against him Ronald Beattie, the chief, gave Maxwell a fast, > white > mare to flee on. Maxwell shortly sold the lands to Scott, Warden of the > Middle Marches. Scott and his men seized the Beattie possessions and > divided > up the Beattie estates. Maxwell, however, appealed to Scott to reward > Ronald > Beattie for saving Maxwell's life. As a result, Beattie was given the > perpetual tenant-right of Watcarrick, one mile south of Eskdalemuir. Sir > Walter Scott states that the Beattie descendants continued to occupy > Watcarrick into the nineteenth century. Nonetheless, many of the family > were > dispersed following the events of 1537 and sought refuge in the north of > Scotland, Ireland and Galloway. In 1544, Beatties and other Border clans > came under the English. 116 Beatties were noted under the leadership of a > Sander Beattie. In 1547 and 1548, under English leadership, the Lennoxes, > Armstrongs, Beatties and Littles sacked and burned the town of Annan. In > 1585, the Maxwells, Armstrongs, Scotts, Beatties and Littles attacked the > Johnstone castle of Lockwood. In 1598, more Beatties were dispersed and > the > clan was effectively broken up. Some went to Northumberland in England > from > where they had migrated five hundred years earlier while others went to > Ireland. In 1603, James VI finally broke the power of the Reivers although > in 1618, the list of "last of the Border blackguards" included the family > name of Beattie. > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Donna, I believe they are referring to the poem by Sir Walter Scott "Lay of the Last Minstrel." In case anyone is interested, here is a link to the passages (Canto 4, X-XII): http://www.theotherpages.org/poems/canto04.html The Beatties are called "Beattisons" Wattcarrick (Woodkerrick) is mentioned as well as Eskdalemuir and many other Border landmarks that we visited on our Beatty DNA Tour. Scotts of Eskdale, a stalwart band, Came trooping down the Todshaw-hill; By the sword they won their land, And by the sword they hold it still. Hearken, Ladye, to the tale, How thy sires won fair Eskdale. Earl Morton was lord of that valley fair; The Beattisons were his vassals there. The Earl was gentle, and mild of mood; The vassals vere warlike, and fierce, and rude; High of heart, and haughty of word, Little they reck'd of a tame liege lord. The Earl into fair Eskdale came, Homage and seignory to claim: Of Gilbert the Galliard a heriot he sought, Saying, "Give thy best steed, as a vassal ought." "Dear to me is my bonny white steed, Oft has he help d me at pinch of need; Lord and Earl though thou be, I trow I can rein Bucksfoot better than thou." Word on word gave fuel to fire, Till so highly blazed the Beattison's ire, But that the Earl the flight had ta'en, The vassals there their lord had slain. Sore he plied both whip and spur, As he urged his steed through Eskdale muir; And it fell down a weary weight, Just on the threshold of Branksome gate. XI The Earl was a wrathful man to see, Full fain avenged would he be. In haste to Branksome's Lord he spoke, Saying--"Take these traitors to thy yoke; For a cast of hawks, and a purse of gold, All Eskdale I'll sell thee, to have and hold: Beshrew thy heart, of the Beattisons' clan If thou leavest on Eske a landed man; But spare Woodkerrick's lands alone, For he lent me his horse to escape upon." A glad man then was Branksome bold, Down he flung him the purse of gold; To Eskdale soon he spurr'd amain, And with him five hundred riders has ta'en He left his merrymen in the mist of the hill And bade them hold them close and still; And alone he wended to the plain, To meet with the Galliard and all his train. To Gilbert the Galliard thus he said "Know thou me for thy liege-lord and head; Deal not with me as with Morton tame, For Scotts play best at the roughest game. Give me in peace my heriot due, Thy bonny white steed, or thou shalt rue. If my horn I three times wind, Eskdale shall long have the sound in mind." XII Loudly the Beattison laugh'd in scorn; "Little care we for thy winded horn. Ne'er shall it be the Galliard's lot To yield his steed to a haughty Scott. Wend thou to Branksome back on foot With rusty spur and miry boot." He blew his bugle so loud and hoarse That the dun deer started at fair Craikcross; He blew again so loud and clear, Through the grey mountain-mist there did lances appear; And the third blast rang with such a din That the echoes answer'd from Pentoun-linn And all his riders came lightly in. Then had you seen a gallant shock When saddles were emptied and lances broke! For each scornful word the Galliard had said A Beattison on the field was laid. His own good sword the chieftain drew, And he bore the Galliard through and through; Where the Beattisons' blood mix'dwith the rill, The Galliard's-Haugh men call it still, The Scotts have scatter'd the Beattison clan In Eskdale they left but one landed man The valley of Eske, from the mouth to the source Was lost and won for that bonny white horse. Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netwtc.net> To: "BP2000" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: [BP2000] Wm Beattie Bio/Sir Walter Scott > When I posted this bio it read like there was a known genealogy of the > Beattie family made famous by Sir Walter Scott. Have any of our members > seen > any genealogy which references Sir Walter Scott's work. It is referenced > below and is I suspect the Sir Walter Scott Beattie family claimed in the > bio. > > Representative Men and Old Families of Southeastern Massachusetts-1912 > WILLIAM BEATTIE, now living retired, but in his active life one of the > large > quarrymen and contractors in his line in southern Massachusetts, a man who > won success by his own work and gained position on his own merits, was > born > Oct. 4, 1829, in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a younger brother of John Beattie, > quarryman and contractor, late of Leete Island, Guilford, who was born in > Edinburgh, Scotland, June 18, 1820. John Beattie, their father, was a > freeman of that city, and a direct descendant of that noted Beattie family > of Eskdale Moore, in Dumfriesshire, Scotland, whose ancestry has been > traced > back more than six centuries, and whose valor and exploits in peace and > war > have been celebrated in the story and song of that country by Sir Walter > Scott and others. On the paternal side his grandmother was Nancy > Armstrong, > a descendant of the Johnson family, of > Dumiriesshire, also prominent in the affairs of > Scotland........................ > > http://www.araltas.com/features/beatty/ > > For over 350 years up to the end of the 16th century what are now > Northumberland, Cumbria, The Scottish Borders, Dumfries and Galloway rang > to > the clash of steel and the thunder of hooves. Robbery and blackmail were > everyday professions, raiding, arson, kidnapping, murder and extortion an > accepted part of the social system. While the monarchs of England and > Scotland ruled the comparatively secure hearts of their kingdoms, the > narrow > hill land between was dominated by the lance and the sword. The tribal > leaders from their towers, the broken men and outlaws of the mosses, the > ordinary peasants of the valleys, in their own phrase, 'shook loose the > Border'. They continued to shake it as long as it was political reality, > practising systematic robbery and destruction on each other. History has > christened them the Border Reivers. They gave the words "blackmail" and > "bereaved" to the English language. The stamp of the Reivers is still to > be > seen on the Border Lands - in it's architecture, culture and people. From > the secretive fortified towns and farms to names that once struck fear > into > men's hearts - Armstrongs, Grahams, Kerrs, Nixons, Robsons, Beatties - the > legacy of the Reivers remains. > > In 1455, the Beatties aided Red Douglas in the overthrow of Black Douglas > at > the battle of Arkinhom. As a reward King James II made several grants of > land to the Beatties for their services to the Crown. This firmly > established the family around Langholm and the Eskdale area. In 1504, Adam > Batie was hanged by the criminal court at Dumfries for being part of the > "king's rebels of Eskdale". In 1537 King James V stripped the Beatties of > Eskdale of their lands and granted these to Robert Lord Maxwell. When > Maxwell summoned the Beatties to acknowledge him as their feudal superior, > the Beatties declared the royal grant was unjust. As the Beatties were > mustering against him Ronald Beattie, the chief, gave Maxwell a fast, > white > mare to flee on. Maxwell shortly sold the lands to Scott, Warden of the > Middle Marches. Scott and his men seized the Beattie possessions and > divided > up the Beattie estates. Maxwell, however, appealed to Scott to reward > Ronald > Beattie for saving Maxwell's life. As a result, Beattie was given the > perpetual tenant-right of Watcarrick, one mile south of Eskdalemuir. Sir > Walter Scott states that the Beattie descendants continued to occupy > Watcarrick into the nineteenth century. Nonetheless, many of the family > were > dispersed following the events of 1537 and sought refuge in the north of > Scotland, Ireland and Galloway. In 1544, Beatties and other Border clans > came under the English. 116 Beatties were noted under the leadership of a > Sander Beattie. In 1547 and 1548, under English leadership, the Lennoxes, > Armstrongs, Beatties and Littles sacked and burned the town of Annan. In > 1585, the Maxwells, Armstrongs, Scotts, Beatties and Littles attacked the > Johnstone castle of Lockwood. In 1598, more Beatties were dispersed and > the > clan was effectively broken up. Some went to Northumberland in England > from > where they had migrated five hundred years earlier while others went to > Ireland. In 1603, James VI finally broke the power of the Reivers although > in 1618, the list of "last of the Border blackguards" included the family > name of Beattie. > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

When I posted this bio it read like there was a known genealogy of the Beattie family made famous by Sir Walter Scott. Have any of our members seen any genealogy which references Sir Walter Scott's work. It is referenced below and is I suspect the Sir Walter Scott Beattie family claimed in the bio. Representative Men and Old Families of Southeastern Massachusetts-1912 WILLIAM BEATTIE, now living retired, but in his active life one of the large quarrymen and contractors in his line in southern Massachusetts, a man who won success by his own work and gained position on his own merits, was born Oct. 4, 1829, in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a younger brother of John Beattie, quarryman and contractor, late of Leete Island, Guilford, who was born in Edinburgh, Scotland, June 18, 1820. John Beattie, their father, was a freeman of that city, and a direct descendant of that noted Beattie family of Eskdale Moore, in Dumfriesshire, Scotland, whose ancestry has been traced back more than six centuries, and whose valor and exploits in peace and war have been celebrated in the story and song of that country by Sir Walter Scott and others. On the paternal side his grandmother was Nancy Armstrong, a descendant of the Johnson family, of Dumiriesshire, also prominent in the affairs of Scotland........................ http://www.araltas.com/features/beatty/ For over 350 years up to the end of the 16th century what are now Northumberland, Cumbria, The Scottish Borders, Dumfries and Galloway rang to the clash of steel and the thunder of hooves. Robbery and blackmail were everyday professions, raiding, arson, kidnapping, murder and extortion an accepted part of the social system. While the monarchs of England and Scotland ruled the comparatively secure hearts of their kingdoms, the narrow hill land between was dominated by the lance and the sword. The tribal leaders from their towers, the broken men and outlaws of the mosses, the ordinary peasants of the valleys, in their own phrase, 'shook loose the Border'. They continued to shake it as long as it was political reality, practising systematic robbery and destruction on each other. History has christened them the Border Reivers. They gave the words "blackmail" and "bereaved" to the English language. The stamp of the Reivers is still to be seen on the Border Lands - in it's architecture, culture and people. From the secretive fortified towns and farms to names that once struck fear into men's hearts - Armstrongs, Grahams, Kerrs, Nixons, Robsons, Beatties - the legacy of the Reivers remains. In 1455, the Beatties aided Red Douglas in the overthrow of Black Douglas at the battle of Arkinhom. As a reward King James II made several grants of land to the Beatties for their services to the Crown. This firmly established the family around Langholm and the Eskdale area. In 1504, Adam Batie was hanged by the criminal court at Dumfries for being part of the "king's rebels of Eskdale". In 1537 King James V stripped the Beatties of Eskdale of their lands and granted these to Robert Lord Maxwell. When Maxwell summoned the Beatties to acknowledge him as their feudal superior, the Beatties declared the royal grant was unjust. As the Beatties were mustering against him Ronald Beattie, the chief, gave Maxwell a fast, white mare to flee on. Maxwell shortly sold the lands to Scott, Warden of the Middle Marches. Scott and his men seized the Beattie possessions and divided up the Beattie estates. Maxwell, however, appealed to Scott to reward Ronald Beattie for saving Maxwell's life. As a result, Beattie was given the perpetual tenant-right of Watcarrick, one mile south of Eskdalemuir. Sir Walter Scott states that the Beattie descendants continued to occupy Watcarrick into the nineteenth century. Nonetheless, many of the family were dispersed following the events of 1537 and sought refuge in the north of Scotland, Ireland and Galloway. In 1544, Beatties and other Border clans came under the English. 116 Beatties were noted under the leadership of a Sander Beattie. In 1547 and 1548, under English leadership, the Lennoxes, Armstrongs, Beatties and Littles sacked and burned the town of Annan. In 1585, the Maxwells, Armstrongs, Scotts, Beatties and Littles attacked the Johnstone castle of Lockwood. In 1598, more Beatties were dispersed and the clan was effectively broken up. Some went to Northumberland in England from where they had migrated five hundred years earlier while others went to Ireland. In 1603, James VI finally broke the power of the Reivers although in 1618, the list of "last of the Border blackguards" included the family name of Beattie.

Wow, You bet my ears will perk up when I hear about Both surnames together.. Does anyone know this lineage?? >From Ancestry.com Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2002 about Margaret Helen Beatty Name: Margaret Helen Beatty [Margaret Helen Gilpen] Birth Date: 29 Mar 1922 Birth State: Ohio Birth Country: United States Gender: Female Race: White Hispanic Origin: Not Hispanic (Latino) Residence County: Pickaway Residence State: Ohio Residence Country: United States Death Date: 20 Jan 1990 Hospital of Death: Home County of Death: Pickaway Certificate: 005840 Age at Death: 67 Certifier: Coroner Referred to Coroner: Yes Autopsy: No Filing Date: 22 Jan 1990 Hospital Status: Other/Residence Injury in Ohio: Yes Type Place of Injury: Unspecified Place Social Security Number: 290-18-7532 Father's Surname: Gilpen Marital Status: Married Education: 6 Industry of Decedent: Homemaker, student, unemployed volunteer Occupation of Decedent: Homemaker Primary Registration District: 6500 I'm interested in all Gilpins/ Gilpens Thanks Nelda Nelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter

> Source: AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-QLD] Mary Jane NEWS, Charles BEATY> > > Hi, > > I've found a marriage on the BDM index for Mary Jane NEWS and Charles BEATY (Beatty, Beattie) 1870 and would like to hear from anyone with this couple in their tree.> > Kind regards,> Gaid

This is info. on George Beattie, a brother of John. Notice one article says brother, Daniel and the other changes it to David. Donna L-3 HISTORICAL SOUVENIR of EL DORADO, CALIFORNIA 1883 pg. 231-232 GEORGE BEATTIE Was born at Edinburg, Scotland, June 24, 1827; was an apprentice at stone cutting. Came to California 1849, via Cape Horn, in the ship Audly Clark; arrived September 1st. First mined in Tuolumne county, February, 1850, on Canyon creek, Oregon canyon and Georgia slide, with his brothers Daniel and John; in 1852 discovered what is now known as the "Beattie claim," at Georgia slide, probably the finest seam diggings worked in the state. The development of this mine and those of similar character surrounding, and the early application of hydraulic methods adopted opened up an entirely new field in mining operations, which have proved of more permanent character than any other class of mining, and is today more successfully pursued on this divide than in any other portion of the state. Mr. Beattie has not held a public office, but takes an active interest in the welfare and good government of the community in which he lives. pg. 89 Georgia Slide, located on Canyon creek, with its open bank of slate-rock standing perpendicular for about two hundred and fifty feet, makes the most grotesque appearance. It became a mining camp in 1851, when the canyons and ravines were found to be rich placers. The first store in the place was owned by B. Spencer, a brother to Pat. Spencer, of Georgetown, in 1851 and '52: this afterwards became the property of Thomas Boarman, and in 1859 came into the possession of G. F. Barkelage, whose close attention to business and investment in mines has rewarded him with quite a fortune. The mine is owned and worked by a stock company. Beattie &. Co.'s Seam Mine is just above Georgia Slide; the face of the claim is about 150 feet in height and nearly perpendicular. The work is going on about half way up, and at that point the seams extend about twenty feet in width running in every direction; they are from a half inch to three or four inches in thickness, and most of them very rich. The seams are cracks and crevices on the solid rock composed or filled with decomposed quartz, and appear to be "oxdized;" a black oxyde covers some of the pieces of gold and quartz so thoroughly that but for the weight would be passed by. There is some white quuartz in some few of the seams, containing bright gold; the black character, however, is most prevalent. --------------------------------------------- California's Eldorado Yesterday and Today pg. 71 ......................who built a large cabin on the ridge between Oregon and South canyons, north of the since fanlous Bull and Manlaluke Hill diggings; A. Berry, Ben C. Currier, John Wagnor, William Reid, Alex Connell, George Beattie, Henry Garsy, Jacob Enri and a man named Hudson, discoverer of the fanlOUS Georgia Slide mines, were among those who worked in the gulches and surrounding canyons. At Georgia Slide there were Thomas Bowman, storekeeper, predecessor to George H. Barklage; Alex A. Hyatt, Nelson Owens, and P. N. Spencer. This n1ine was divided into three claims, the Blue Rock, worked by Joe Roe; the Pacific, by John Harden & Company; the Beattie, owned and worked by John, George, and David Beattie, John Thurston and Barney Hughes. George Jinks kept a store at Bottle Hill, and the men connected with the Pilot creek ditch, built in 1853-4, were Thon1as Wrenn, D. C. McKinney and John Hardin; and the old California Water Company, constructed in 1852-3, were Cunningham, Conness, Thomas Reed, and Dr. W. N. Stone. Daily stages had now (1850) commenced to run from Coloma to all these camps, the first plying between Sutter's Fort and Coloma, and later uniting with Graham's line to Georgetown. Old Coloma, how rapidly she grew, sending out her six pony expresses a day, which carried the mail to the various camps. How glad the miner welcomed the rider and paid his dollar for a letter from far away home. Perchance it was evening, and he had been sitting before his cabin ............................ ----------------------------------------------------------- The Mountain Democrat Placerville, CA Saturday, May 19, 1900 Death of a Model Old-Timer. The death of George Beattie last Monday, tho 14th inst., at Georgia Slide, from pneumonia, has removed from Georgetown Divide a model man and pioneer. He was born in Edinborough, Scotland, about seventy-three years ago. When but six weeks of age he waB brought to Newport, Rhode Island. Thence in his young and ambitious manhood he came to California in 1849. Coming to El Dorado county he engaged in mining and fOr many years he had been the trusted friend and partner of the Barklage's in mining operations. From them and all who knew him he won golden opinions that are the priceless heritage of his family, consisting of his wife, two daughters, three sons and a grandson, all of whom except one son are residents of this county. He had many time-honored relations with the people and societies of his section. The oldest living member of Momento Lodge No, 25, F. &. A. M. His funeral last Tuesday under its auspices was conducted by Rev. C. C. Peirce his friend and brother Mason. Thus even the sadness of a death that is universally lamented, is hallowed by sacred associations. The Scottish virtues personified in the life of George Beattie, live on in hearts and homes strickon by his death. And a minstrel of his own name and birthplace has sung: "See truth, love and mercy in triumph descending, And nature all glowing in Eden's first bloom! On the cold cheek of death smiles and roses are blending, And beauty immortal awakes from the toomb." --------------------- The Mountain Democrat Placerville, CA 13 January 1912 After a week's visit with relatives at Georgia Slide, Dr. W. G. Beattie and wife returned by auto to San Francisco Saturday. -------------------------------- The Mountain Democrat Placerville, CA 18 January 1913 Victor Forni, Herman Barklage and Chris Beattie have obtained a lease on the Beattie mine at Georgia Slide, and will operate the same. ---------------------------- The Mountain Democrat Placerville, CA Saturday, June 13, 1914 Death of Mrs. Beattie Mrs. Catherine Beattie passed away at her home in Georgetown Thursday afternoon after a long illness from cancer of the stomach. She was one of the earliest residents of Georgia Slide coming there in the early fifties from her home in Germany. She was 75 years of age, and leaves three sons, Chris and Adolph Beattie of Georgia Slide, and Dr. Beattie of Colma, and two daughters, Miss Annie Beattie of the home place, and Mrs. Clinton E. Benjamin of San Francisco, all of whom were with her at the last. ------------------------------ The Mountain Democrat Placerville, CA June 14, 1945 Mr. and Mrs. William R. Beattie arrived Friday from Carmel, Monterey County, to spend their vacation at Georgia Slide, north of town, which was a prosperous mining town twenty years ago, with a store (Barklage store), and fifteen homes. Today, the Beattie house is the only house left there that is liveable. The others, with the exception of three, the Kenna, Murphy, and John Flynn houses, are the only ones left and they are unkept. The others have been torn down and moved away-the Slide's completely covered with Scotch Broom. It is just a ghost town. -------------------------------- The Mountain Democrat Placerville, CA Thursday, January 10, 1946 GEORGETOWN PIONEER IS CALLED BY DEATH AT OAKLAND Miss Annie Beattie, 76, a native of Georgetown and until about twenty-five years ago a resident of Georgia Slide, where her parents were pioneer settlers, passed away Tuesday at a hospital in Oakland. The funeral services were held Thursday afternoon at 1 o'clock at Georgetown Methodist Church, the Rev. Paul Mekkelson officiating. Interment was beside the graves of her parents, George and Katherine Mohn Beattie, at Georgetown Cemetery. The deceased was the last but one of a family of five children, and about twenty-five years ago moved from Georgia Slide to the Bay district. She is survived by a sister, Mrs. Clinton Benjamin of Oakland, and a nephew William R. Beattie of Nonterey. ------------------ The Mountain Democrat Placerville, CA January 17, 1946 Funeral serVIces were held Thursday afternoon at the Methodist Chureh by Rev. Paul Mekkelson for Miss Annie Beattie, aged 76 years, of Oakland, who passed away away at an Oakland hospital after a brief illness. Miss BeattIe was a daughter of pioneer parents, George, and Catherine Beattie who came to California in 1856 and later settled at Georgia Slide, where they had extensive gold mining interests. Miss Beattie, born at Georgia Slide, lived there continuously until 1920, when she went to Oakland to make her home with her sister, Mrs. Clinton Benjamin, and family. She was worthy matron of Mountain Fern Chapter No. 62, 0. E. S. in 1894 and later again in 1914. She was a devoted sister and was universally beloved and respected by all who knew her. She was laid to rest in the Georgetown Cemetery, in the family plot. She was the loving sister of Mrs. Mamie Benjamin of Oakland, aunt of William R. Beattie of Carmel, Monterey County, and cousin of Mrs. J. C. Ackley of Georgetown. Other relatives who came from Placerville were Mrs. Minnie Allen and Mr. and Mrs Henry Grover.

This is the family of the John Beattie who did the stonework on the Statue of Liberty. Donna L-3 Descendants of Unknown Beattie 1 Unknown Beattie .. +Nancy Armstrong ........ 2 John Beattie d: 1835 in Newport, RI ............ +Ann Richardson b: Abt. 1797 in Haddington,Scotland m: 06 Mar 1820 in Edinburgh, Scotland d: Aft. 1860 in Probably RI Father: John Richardson Mother: Catharine Tate ................... 3 John Beattie b: 18 Jun 1820 in Edinburgh, Scotland d: 20 Nov 1899 in Leete's Isl., CT ....................... +Anne ?? b: Abt. 1817 in Ireland m: Abt. 1840 ............................. 4 John Beattie, Jr. b: Aug 1841 in RI ................................. +Ellen N. Powers b: Sep 1840 in VA m: Abt. 1864 ........................................ 5 John Beattie b: Abt. 1865 in MA ............................................ +Lucinda ?? b: Jun 1854 in Canada m: Abt. 1898 ........................................ 5 Grace D. Beattie b: Nov 1867 in MA ............................................ +John D. Monroe b: Feb 1856 in Prince Edward Island m: 06 Jul 1892 in Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts ........................................ 5 Earnest Jefferson Beattie b: 21 Apr 1878 in MA ............................................ +Elizabeth D. Tripp b: Jul 1878 in MA m: Abt. 1899 Father: Joseph F. Tripp Mother: Carrie D. Hathaway .................................................. 6 Ellen G. Beattie b: Abt. 1910 in MA ............................. 4 Catharine Beattie b: Abt. 1843 in RI ............................. 4 Francis Frank Beattie b: Jun 1845 in RI ................................. +Mariam Carrie McCall b: Dec 1850 in MA m: 24 Dec 1868 in RI ........................................ 5 Anna Beattie b: Abt. 1873 in RI ........................................ 5 Carrie I. Beattie b: Nov 1877 in CT ........................................ 5 Rosetta F. Beattie b: Dec 1879 in CT ........................................ 5 Mary E. Beattie b: Sep 1882 in CT ........................................ 5 John Richard Beattie b: 13 May 1885 in CT ........................................ 5 Francis Frank Kelly Beattie b: 11 Oct 1886 in CT ........................................ 5 Roy H. Beattie b: Nov 1888 in CT ............................. 4 George Beattie b: Abt. 1851 in RI ............................. 4 Isabella Beattie b: Feb 1857 in RI ................................. +George C. Sanborn b: Feb 1856 in ME m: Abt. 1881 ........................................ 5 George E. Sanborn b: Dec 1882 in CT ........................................ 5 Edith M. Sanborn b: Aug 1884 in CT ........................................ 5 John B. Sanborn b: Feb 1886 in CT ........................................ 5 Charles R. Sanborn b: Mar 1888 in CT ........................................ 5 Arthur Sanborn b: Jan 1894 in CT ................... *2nd Wife of John Beattie: ....................... +Mary H. ?? b: Sep 1842 in Ireland m: Abt. 1863 d: Bet. 1913 - 1914 in Newport, RI ............................. 4 Mary Emma Beattie b: Mar 1865 in RI ................................. +John H. Sullivan b: Nov 1861 in RI m: Abt. 1881 ........................................ 5 Mary E. Sullivan b: Dec 1881 in RI ........................................ 5 John H. Sullivan b: Oct 1884 in RI ........................................ 5 Cornelius Sullivan b: Dec 1889 in NY ........................................ 5 Walter Sullivan b: Dec 1900 in NY ............................. 4 David H. Beattie b: Aug 1865 in RI ................................. +Julia ?? b: Feb 1864 in Ireland m: Abt. 1885 ........................................ 5 Helen R. Beattie b: Oct 1885 in MA ........................................ 5 John Bagwell Beattie b: 26 Jan 1887 in CT ............................................ +Pauline Cain b: Abt. 1887 in CT m: Abt. 1913 ........................................ 5 Margarette T. Beattie b: Aug 1888 in CT ........................................ 5 Irene E. Beattie b: Oct 1891 in CT ........................................ 5 Josephine Beattie b: Mar 1893 in CT ........................................ 5 David B. Beattie b: 09 May 1896 in CT d: Aug 1982 ............................................ +May E. ? b: Abt. 1902 in MI m: Abt. 1918 .................................................. 6 Margaret M. Beattie b: Abt. 1920 in CT .................................................. 6 David B. Beattie, Jr. b: Abt. 1923 in NM .................................................. 6 Mary E. Beattie b: Abt. 1927 in CT ........................................ 5 George Francis Beattie b: 14 Feb 1899 in CT ............................. 4 William H. Beattie b: Abt. 1869 in RI d: Bef. 1880 ............................. 4 Charles J. Beattie b: Sep 1871 in RI ................................. +Mary A. ?? b: Oct 1872 in England m: Abt. 1893 ........................................ 5 Arthur Francis Beattie b: 16 Aug 1893 in RI ........................................ 5 Charles Augustus Beattie b: 21 Aug 1895 in RI ............................................ +Marion S. ?? b: Abt. 1893 in Scotland m: Abt. 1927 ........................................ 5 Agnes Beattie b: Jan 1900 in RI ........................................ 5 William A. Beattie b: Abt. 1904 in RI ........................................ 5 Paul Beattie b: Abt. 1911 in RI ................... *3rd Wife of John Beattie: ....................... +Mary G. ?? b: Nov 1841 in Ireland m: Abt. 1871 d: Aft. 1920 ............................. 4 Peter Beattie b: May 1872 in CT ................................. +Margarette V. ?? b: Dec 1874 in NY m: Abt. 1897 ........................................ 5 Robert Beattie b: 07 May 1898 in CT ........................................ 5 Mildred Beattie b: Mar 1900 in CT ........................................ 5 Harold J. Beattie b: Abt. 1902 in CT ........................................ 5 Malcolm Beattie b: Abt. 1905 in CT ........................................ 5 Eleanor Beattie b: Abt. 1907 in CT ........................................ 5 Walter Beattie b: Abt. 1909 in CT ........................................ 5 Dorothy Beattie b: Abt. 1911 in CT ........................................ 5 Frederick Beattie b: Abt. 1915 in CT ............................. 4 Thomas Joseph J. G. Beattie b: 25 Dec 1873 in CT ................................. +Catharine ?? b: Abt. 1877 in CT m: Abt. 1910 ........................................ 5 Joseph J. Beattie b: Abt. 1912 in CT ........................................ 5 Mary C. Beattie b: Abt. 1915 in CT ........................................ 5 William Beattie b: Abt. 1918 in CT ................... 3 George Beattie b: Bet. 1822 - 1827 in Edinborough, Scotland ....................... +Catherine Kate Mohn b: Abt. 1839 in Sene Weiman?, Hamburg, Germany ............................. 4 William G. Beattie, M. D. b: Abt. 1866 in California ................................. +Maggie ?? b: in Utah ........................................ 5 Carrie Beattie b: Abt. 1888 in California ........................................ 5 William Roland Beattie b: 16 Jun 1889 in California ............................................ +Julia ?? b: Abt. 1891 in California ........................................ *2nd Wife of William Roland Beattie: ............................................ +Edith L. ?? b: Abt. 1895 in MO ............................. *2nd Wife of William G. Beattie, M. D.: ................................. +Margarette ?? ............................. 4 Annie Beattie b: Jun 1869 in California ............................. 4 Mary Beattie b: Jul 1873 in California ................................. +Clinton G. Benjamin b: Dec 1873 in California m: Abt. 1901 ........................................ 5 Clinton G. Benjamin, Jr. b: Abt. 1915 in California ................... 3 Catherine Beattie b: 22 May 1825 in Scotland ................... 3 William Beattie b: 04 Oct 1829 in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada d: 1915 in Fall River, Bristol, MA ....................... +Mary Hamilton b: May 1833 in North England m: Abt. 1854 Father: Thomas Hamilton Mother: Catharine ?? ............................. 4 David Beattie b: Apr 1855 in RI ................................. +Jennie L. Standing b: Abt. 1854 in MA m: 09 Mar 1880 in Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts Father: John Standing ............................. *2nd Wife of David Beattie: ................................. +Etta D. ?? b: May 1866 in VT m: Abt. 1885 ........................................ 5 Mary H. Beattie b: Sep 1886 in MA ........................................ 5 Isabel McJ. Beattie b: Apr 1889 in MA ........................................ 5 Catharine G. Beattie b: Jun 1896 ............................. 4 Thomas H. Beattie b: Abt. 1859 in RI d: Bef. 1870 ............................. 4 William Henry Beattie b: 02 Apr 1865 in RI ................................. +Genora L. ?? b: Nov 1869 in RI m: Abt. 1899 ............................. 4 Roy Hamilton Alfred Beattie b: 04 Dec 1869 in MA d: 01 Feb 1947 in Tiverton, Newport, RI ................................. +Helen Burch b: 26 Jan 1875 in Iowa m: 02 Dec 1896 in MA or IA Father: George B. Burch Mother: Ellen H. Merrill ........................................ 5 Hamilton Beattie b: 16 Mar 1899 in Fall River, MA d: 13 Jan 1958 ............................................ +Noeline Heath b: 23 Nov 1895 m: 1931 ........................................ 5 Malcolm Burch Beattie b: 03 Jul 1900 in Fall River, MA d: 23 Dec 1985 in Lee County Florida ............................................ +Emily Dowell m: 19 Apr 1924 in Washington, DC .................................................. 6 Peter M. Beattie b: 04 Oct 1925 in Washington, DC d: 17 Aug 1997 in RI ...................................................... +Sally Bartlett ........................................ 5 Helen Beattie b: 29 May 1904 in Fall River, MA d: 17 Apr 1975 in Ft. Lauderdale FL ............................................ +Clifton Briggs Leech b: 17 Feb 1895 in Winthrop Center Maine m: 10 May 1930 in Tiverton, RI ........................................ 5 Alan Beattie b: 18 Dec 1905 in Fall River, MA d: 17 Nov 1988 ............................................ +Louise Stuart b: 04 Oct 1902 in MA ................... 3 David Beattie b: 1831 in Canada ....................... +Amelia Southwick b: Abt. 1835 in RI m: 03 Jan 1859 in Newport, Newport, Rhode Island Father: Benjamin Southwick Mother: Sarah Ann ?? ............................. 4 William Beattie b: Abt. 1859 in RI ................................. +Mary Leary ................... 3 Christiana Beattie b: Abt. 1833 in Canada

No known lineage. Donna L-3 Bangor Daily Whig and Courier (Bangor, ME) Tuesday, May 10, 1881 DEATH OF SENATOR BEATTY. Hon. Jason Beatty, Senator from York County, died Sunday, at seven o'clock A. M., at his home in Saco, after suffering from a painful and protracted disease. Senator Beatty was born In Bridgton and received his edcation in the. public schools of Saco. He has frequently been honored by positions of public trust, was auditor of accounts and a member of the Board of Selectmen while Saco was a town, was annnally elected City Treasurer from 1858 to 1876, and, held the position of Deputy Collector of Customs during President Grant's first term. Last fall be was elected a Senator from his county, and faithfully served the State and his constituents; was a member of the railroad and finance committees, serving as chairmann of the former. DAILY KENNEBEC JOURNAL (Augusta, ME) Tuesday, Nov. 18, 1873 James Beatty,Esq., Senior member of the firm of James Beatty & Co., tanners and leather manufacturers, and a member of the firm of J. W. Beatty & Co., belting and hose manufacturers of Saco died Saturday of a fever. 1840 United States Federal Census about James Beatty Name: James Beatty Township: Saco County: York State: Maine 010001-01000101 1850 United States Federal Census about Jason Beatty Name: Jason Beatty Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Birth Place: Maine Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): Saco, York, Maine James Beatty 33 leather dresser 2500-ME Eliza 32 ME Frances 17 (f) ME Jason 15 ME Annale Grant 6 ME 1860 United States Federal Census about Jason Beattie Name: Jason Beattie Age in 1860: 25 Birth Year: abt 1835 Birthplace: Maine Home in 1860: Saco, York, Maine Gender: Male Post Office: Saco Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Jason Beattie 25 carrier? ME Elizabeth Beattie 21 ME George Beattie 1 ME Mary M Kenson 17 servant ME 1860 United States Federal Census about James Beatty Name: James Beatty Age in 1860: 53 Birth Year: abt 1807 Birthplace: Maine Home in 1860: Saco, York, Maine Gender: Male Post Office: Saco Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age James Beatty 53 tanner & currier 2500-500 ME Eliza Beatty 52 ME Frances Weed 27 ME 1870 United States Federal Census about Jason W Beatty Name: Jason W Beatty Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Age in 1870: 35 Birthplace: Maine Home in 1870: Saco, York, Maine Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Saco Jason W. Beatty 35 leather merch. (whol) 3500-500 ME Elizabeth 31 ME George W. 10 at school ME 1870 United States Federal Census about James Beatty Name: James Beatty Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Age in 1870: 63 Birthplace: Maine Home in 1870: Saco, York, Maine Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Saco James Beatty tanner & currier 14000-6000 ME Eliza 62 keep house ME Fannie E. Weed 37 no occup ME 1880: Saco, York, Maine Source: FHL Film 1254491 National Archives Film T9-0491 Page 519B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Eliza BEATTY Self F W W 73 ME Occ: Keeping House Fa: ME Mo: ME Fannie BEATTY Dau F W W 47 ME Occ: At Home Fa: ME Mo: ME Clementine JOHNSON Other F W W 35 ME Occ: Servant Fa: ME Mo: ME 1880: Saco, York, Maine Source: FHL Film 1254491 National Archives Film T9-0491 Page 508B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Jason W. BEATY Self M M W 45 ME Occ: Belt Mfg. Fa: ME Mo: ME Elizabeth BEATY Wife F M W 44 ME Occ: Keeping House Fa: ME Mo: ME Geo. W. BEATY Son M S W 21 ME Occ: At School Fa: ME Mo: ME Henry BEATY Son M S W 9 ME Occ: At School Fa: ME Mo: ME James BEATY Son M S W 6 ME Fa: ME Mo: ME Cora DALEY Other F S W 16 ME Occ: Housegirl Fa: ME Mo: ME 1900 United States Federal Census about Elizabeth I Beatty Name: Elizabeth I Beatty Home in 1900: Saco, York, Maine Age: 61 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Birthplace: Maine Relationship to head-of-house: Mother Race: White Occupation: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harry W Beatty 28 head may 1872 single ME ME ME leather dealer Elizabeth I Beatty 61 mother july 1838 wd 4 ch 2 lvg ME NH ME Annie Murphy 26 servant apr 1874 Ire Ire Ire (1897-3) house servant 1910 United States Federal Census about Elizabeth J Beatty Name: Elizabeth J Beatty [Elizabeth J Beatly] Age in 1910: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Birthplace: Maine Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Maine Mother's Birth Place: Maine Home in 1910: Saco Ward 3, York, Maine Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth J Beatty 70 head wd 2 ch 2 ch ME Allan R Beatty 5 grandson ME ME ME Minnie Rumball 25 servant NH NH NH 1910 United States Federal Census about Honry W Beatty Name: Honry W Beatty [Henry W Beatty] Age in 1910: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Birthplace: Maine Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Maine Mother's Birth Place: Maine Spouse's name: Edith M Home in 1910: Saco Ward 4, York, Maine Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harry W Beatty 36 married twice for 4/12 ys ME ME ME city marshall for Saco city Edith M Beatty 33 wife married once for 0 ys 0 child 0 child ME ME ME 1910 United States Federal Census Name: George W Beaty [George W Beatty] Age in 1910: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Birthplace: Maine Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Maine Mother's Birth Place: Maine Spouse's name: Rose Home in 1910: Worcester Ward 9, Worcester, Massachusetts Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George W Beaty 51 head mar once 21 ys ME ME ME proprietor of boarding house Rose Beaty 48 wife mar once 21 ys 5 ch 4 lvg NH NH NH Lester R Beaty 16 son CT ME NH farming Hazel E Beaty 3 dau NH Mabel E Beaty 19 dau NH Bertha F Beaty 11 dau ME George A Southworth 26 boarder single MA MA CT brakeman steam RR John A Cutting 60 boarder wd MA RI MA -------------------- currier: A currier is a specialist in the leather processing industry. After the tanning process, the currier applies techniques of dressing, finishing and colouring to the tanned hide to make it strong, flexible and waterproof. The leather is stretched and burnished to produce a uniform thickness and suppleness, and dyeing and other chemical finishes give the leather its desired colour.After currying, the leather is then ready to pass to the fashioning trades such as saddlery. ------------------------ The Harmon Genealogy Comprising all Branches in New England-1920 (Ancestry) pg. 43 THE SCARBORO BRANCH. LUTHER HARMON (JosiahJ JohnJ Samuel, John). b. Mar. 18, 1792, in Standish, m. Sarah Philbrook. She was b. Jan. 15, 1800, in Eppingham, N. H., and d. Apr. 26, 1857. He lived in Corinna, Me., and was a Representative from Penobscot County in 1838. He d. Aug. 23, 1863, in Saco. Children: [Both were buried in Laurel Hill Cemetery, in Saco. George W., b. Feb. 27, 1820, m. Isabella Tilden. Martha, b. May 18, 1822. Mary P., b. Nov. 15, 1823. Luther, b. Jan. 9, 1825, d. young .. Katherine, b. Mar. 25, 1828. Franklin L., b. July 30, 1829, m. Almeda J. Lane, Eaton, N. H. Roseanna, b. Sept. 14, 1831. Albert H., b. Jan. 3, 1834, d. May, 1893 . Juliana, b. Apr. 3, 1836, d. Apr. 15, 1846. Elizabeth J., b. July 6, 1838, m. 1889 Jason Beatty, of Saco. He was a son of George W. Beatty. Orinda E., b. Dec. 21, 1840, d. Feb. 3, 1857. (The first five were b. in Effingham, Franklin L., in Eaton, N. H., and the rest in Corinna, Me.) ----------------------------------------- FIRST BOOK OF RECORDS OF THE TOWN OF PEPPERELLBOROUGH, NOW THE CITY OF SACO-1896 (Ancestry) James Beatty of Saco and Eliza Grant of Kennebunk Port entered their Intention of Marriage Dec. 31, 1831. ---------------------------------------------------

Arlene Eakle had this site for the Evansville Public Library. Anyone can log in. On-line is a database of obituaries and there are both BEATY and BEATTY included. Her comments, " In 2001, I received a letter from the son of Charles H. Browning of Evansville, Indiana. He described his father’s Obituary Notice Index of more than 200,000 cards taken from the Evansville Press and Evansville Courier and Press, 1906-1990. These cards were scanned into a computer database. Then the obit notices from 1991-2000 were added by entering them directly into the Browning Genealogy Database. Next, the database was loaded onto the Evansville Vanderburgh Public Library website http://browning.evpl.org. Charles H. Browning spent more than 50 years indexing other, important entries from the newspapers and adding details from other sources (I suspect including mortuary details from the Browning Funeral Home). He did 40,000 cards on World War II veterans and his People of Evansville Study yielded 537,000 cards. These two databases are part of the Evansville Library, Local History Database. All of these cards are available to you online!" Mary L-3

Thanks for the info. I'll check into them.. Mardi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration > Here is a link for ordering Service records from WWI: > http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/index.html > > Laurel Baty, L252 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mardi Carlson" <cmc@hutchtel.net> > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration > > >>I don't know exactly where he died. He is buried in a little, way out of >> the way, boarder town named Vanceboro in Maine. >> The home address he gives on his WWI registration is Waterville, Maine. >> He >> is employed in New Bunswick, Canada and where he signs his name at the >> bottom he also wrote another address underneath being 276 Main St., St >> Johns, NB. He could of died anywhere inbetween as his occupation was >> Commercial Traveller. >> >> I find his wife and daughter back in Mass. in 1920 alone so he is dead by >> that time. >> I have looked for records in Washington County Maine before but not much >> shows up.. Have to take a look again, I was looking for dates in the late >> 1800's before.. >> >> Where do you look for service records, I haven't ever done that before. >> Or >> needed to.. >> >> Mardi >> L-489 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Myles Johnson" <mylesj33@comcast.net> >> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration >> >> >>> Hi Mardi, >>> Headstones are not always correct. Can you verify his date of death some >>> other way? How about his service record? Where did he die? >>> >>> Myles Johnson >>> >>> ***************************************** >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Mardi Carlson >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:50 PM >>> To: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [BP2000] WWI registration >>> >>> Hoping someone can shed some light on this for me. >>> >>> Margaret Culley nee Beatty's son Frank H. Culley was born 1881 and died >>> 1917 >>> >>> According to his headstone in Vanceboro, Maine. I personally took the >>> picture this summer He is buried with his Mother Margaret and Father >>> William >>> >>> Culley among other Beatty relatives. >>> >>> I found his WWI draft registration on Ancestry and the registration date >>> is >>> Sept. 23, 1918. It is the absolute correct person without a shadow of a >>> doubt. He had 4 years prior service rank Private, branch Inf., 5 Reg. >>> Mass >>> VM Mass >>> >>> How can his death be a year earlier than his registration date. >>> Mardi >>> L-489 >>> >>> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >>> which >>> you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, >>> remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with >>> the >>> message subject to which you are replying. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >>> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >>> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >>> with the message subject to which you are replying. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >> with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

The National Archives does not have WWI Service Records--these are still in the custody of the Military and can be ordered using the link I sent. The National Archives does have the WWI Draft Registration records--but they do not have any service records. See their information sheet: http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/military/index.html Introduction What military records does NARA have? The National Archives holds Federal military service records from the Revolutionary War to 1912 in the National Archives Building in Washington, D.C. See details of holdings. Military records from WWI - present are held in the National Military Personnel Records Center (NPRC), in St. Louis, Missouri, See details of holdings. Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myles Johnson" <mylesj33@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration > Hi Mardi, > Military sewrvice records for WWI are in the US National Archives. I live > in > DC and so have not had to make long distance requests. Suggest you google > them first and get info on requesting records. Others may know the how-to > better than I. I also have not used WW I records. Knowing his unit is > needed and you seem to have that. > > Myles Johnson > > ********************************************* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mardi Carlson" <cmc@hutchtel.net> > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration > > >>I don't know exactly where he died. He is buried in a little, way out of >> the way, boarder town named Vanceboro in Maine. >> The home address he gives on his WWI registration is Waterville, Maine. >> He >> is employed in New Bunswick, Canada and where he signs his name at the >> bottom he also wrote another address underneath being 276 Main St., St >> Johns, NB. He could of died anywhere inbetween as his occupation was >> Commercial Traveller. >> >> I find his wife and daughter back in Mass. in 1920 alone so he is dead by >> that time. >> I have looked for records in Washington County Maine before but not much >> shows up.. Have to take a look again, I was looking for dates in the late >> 1800's before.. >> >> Where do you look for service records, I haven't ever done that before. >> Or >> needed to.. >> >> Mardi >> L-489 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Myles Johnson" <mylesj33@comcast.net> >> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration >> >> >>> Hi Mardi, >>> Headstones are not always correct. Can you verify his date of death some >>> other way? How about his service record? Where did he die? >>> >>> Myles Johnson >>> >>> ***************************************** >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Mardi Carlson >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:50 PM >>> To: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [BP2000] WWI registration >>> >>> Hoping someone can shed some light on this for me. >>> >>> Margaret Culley nee Beatty's son Frank H. Culley was born 1881 and died >>> 1917 >>> >>> According to his headstone in Vanceboro, Maine. I personally took the >>> picture this summer He is buried with his Mother Margaret and Father >>> William >>> >>> Culley among other Beatty relatives. >>> >>> I found his WWI draft registration on Ancestry and the registration date >>> is >>> Sept. 23, 1918. It is the absolute correct person without a shadow of a >>> doubt. He had 4 years prior service rank Private, branch Inf., 5 Reg. >>> Mass >>> VM Mass >>> >>> How can his death be a year earlier than his registration date. >>> Mardi >>> L-489 >>> >>> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >>> which >>> you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, >>> remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with >>> the >>> message subject to which you are replying. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >>> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >>> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >>> with the message subject to which you are replying. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >> with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mardi, Military sewrvice records for WWI are in the US National Archives. I live in DC and so have not had to make long distance requests. Suggest you google them first and get info on requesting records. Others may know the how-to better than I. I also have not used WW I records. Knowing his unit is needed and you seem to have that. Myles Johnson ********************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mardi Carlson" <cmc@hutchtel.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration >I don't know exactly where he died. He is buried in a little, way out of > the way, boarder town named Vanceboro in Maine. > The home address he gives on his WWI registration is Waterville, Maine. > He > is employed in New Bunswick, Canada and where he signs his name at the > bottom he also wrote another address underneath being 276 Main St., St > Johns, NB. He could of died anywhere inbetween as his occupation was > Commercial Traveller. > > I find his wife and daughter back in Mass. in 1920 alone so he is dead by > that time. > I have looked for records in Washington County Maine before but not much > shows up.. Have to take a look again, I was looking for dates in the late > 1800's before.. > > Where do you look for service records, I haven't ever done that before. > Or > needed to.. > > Mardi > L-489 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Myles Johnson" <mylesj33@comcast.net> > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration > > >> Hi Mardi, >> Headstones are not always correct. Can you verify his date of death some >> other way? How about his service record? Where did he die? >> >> Myles Johnson >> >> ***************************************** >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Mardi Carlson >> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:50 PM >> To: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BP2000] WWI registration >> >> Hoping someone can shed some light on this for me. >> >> Margaret Culley nee Beatty's son Frank H. Culley was born 1881 and died >> 1917 >> >> According to his headstone in Vanceboro, Maine. I personally took the >> picture this summer He is buried with his Mother Margaret and Father >> William >> >> Culley among other Beatty relatives. >> >> I found his WWI draft registration on Ancestry and the registration date >> is >> Sept. 23, 1918. It is the absolute correct person without a shadow of a >> doubt. He had 4 years prior service rank Private, branch Inf., 5 Reg. >> Mass >> VM Mass >> >> How can his death be a year earlier than his registration date. >> Mardi >> L-489 >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which >> you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, >> remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with >> the >> message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >> with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a link for ordering Service records from WWI: http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/index.html Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mardi Carlson" <cmc@hutchtel.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration >I don't know exactly where he died. He is buried in a little, way out of > the way, boarder town named Vanceboro in Maine. > The home address he gives on his WWI registration is Waterville, Maine. > He > is employed in New Bunswick, Canada and where he signs his name at the > bottom he also wrote another address underneath being 276 Main St., St > Johns, NB. He could of died anywhere inbetween as his occupation was > Commercial Traveller. > > I find his wife and daughter back in Mass. in 1920 alone so he is dead by > that time. > I have looked for records in Washington County Maine before but not much > shows up.. Have to take a look again, I was looking for dates in the late > 1800's before.. > > Where do you look for service records, I haven't ever done that before. > Or > needed to.. > > Mardi > L-489 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Myles Johnson" <mylesj33@comcast.net> > To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] WWI registration > > >> Hi Mardi, >> Headstones are not always correct. Can you verify his date of death some >> other way? How about his service record? Where did he die? >> >> Myles Johnson >> >> ***************************************** >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Mardi Carlson >> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:50 PM >> To: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BP2000] WWI registration >> >> Hoping someone can shed some light on this for me. >> >> Margaret Culley nee Beatty's son Frank H. Culley was born 1881 and died >> 1917 >> >> According to his headstone in Vanceboro, Maine. I personally took the >> picture this summer He is buried with his Mother Margaret and Father >> William >> >> Culley among other Beatty relatives. >> >> I found his WWI draft registration on Ancestry and the registration date >> is >> Sept. 23, 1918. It is the absolute correct person without a shadow of a >> doubt. He had 4 years prior service rank Private, branch Inf., 5 Reg. >> Mass >> VM Mass >> >> How can his death be a year earlier than his registration date. >> Mardi >> L-489 >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which >> you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, >> remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with >> the >> message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >> Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides >> with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message