Note that I just added the two sample page images on the Crossle page so you can see what the originals look like. These images are sized down to about 40% of the original image so as to not be too big for web viewing. ...Mike Allen -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sterling Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:20 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Crossle Bound Beatty Notebook, Ireland Laurel Baty wrote: > Hi Ann, > > I doubt very much that OCR software would be any use with these documents. > This is from a microfilmed copy of a handwritten document--written by a man > with very bad hand-writing! Wow. In that case, put me down for a few hours of transcription. If I can read Aunt Blanche, I can probably read Crossle. ---A

Hi Ann, I doubt very much that OCR software would be any use with these documents. This is from a microfilmed copy of a handwritten document--written by a man with very bad hand-writing! I am afraid this must be done the old-fashioned way--by humans not computers. The Bound Beatty Volume is Philip Crossle's most legible notebook. It contains his transcripts of many documents that no longer exist (most Irish wills, census, court records etc. were destroyed by fire in 1922). The digital copies I have are tif files and if you want to see one let me know--but trust me OCR won't work! I just want the information to be available to Irish Beatty researchers. It is difficult to go through 400 plus frames on a microfilm reader and really know what you've read and seen. If the information is converted to searchable text many Irish researchers may find information that they did not know existed. There are a total of 12 Crossle Beatty notebooks. Laurel Baty, L252 -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sterling Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 11:56 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Crossle Bound Beatty Notebook, Ireland Laurel Baty wrote: > Mike Allen has added a new section to the BP2000 Archives, "Crossle Genealogical Abstracts Collection" > > http://www.natural-software.com/bp2000/crossle/crossleindex.php It might be possible to use some OCR software <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition#OCR_software> to speed up the process. There's an adobe plugin that we might be able to use - but first, what file type are the scanned documents in, .jpg, .pdf? And what is the final file type that you want them to be in, .doc, .htm, something else? ---A When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laurel Baty wrote: > Mike Allen has added a new section to the BP2000 Archives, "Crossle Genealogical Abstracts Collection" > > http://www.natural-software.com/bp2000/crossle/crossleindex.php It might be possible to use some OCR software <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition#OCR_software> to speed up the process. There's an adobe plugin that we might be able to use - but first, what file type are the scanned documents in, .jpg, .pdf? And what is the final file type that you want them to be in, .doc, .htm, something else? ---A

Mike Allen has added a new section to the BP2000 Archives, "Crossle Genealogical Abstracts Collection" http://www.natural-software.com/bp2000/crossle/crossleindex.php This is an index of the Bound Beatty Notebook, created by me, and a handful of transcribed pages. Our goal is to completely transcribe the Crossle Bound Beatty Notebook. Right now we have 4 volunteers (myself, Mardi Carlson, Julie Miller and Connie Beaty) which mean we each need to transcribe about 100 pages. We would like to find a few more volunteers to help with the project. I will send you digital images to transcribe from. If anyone is interested in participating in this project or has previously transcribed some of The Crossle Bound Beatty Notebook and would like to contribute those pages to BP2000 please email me at: laurelbaty@comcast.net or laurel.baty@verizon.net. Laurel Baty

Thaks, Nelda. -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nelda Percival Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:16 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] testing for a bounce Sandy, You are supposed to recieve a copy of your emails to the list. Yes the new system uses BP2000-bounces@rootsweb.com as a return address , it is confusing because it causes the person recieving to think they actually bounced an email instead of just getting thier copy. lots of things about the new system sucks but others are really good.. so we live with it.. I'd suggest to anyone concerned to go to the lists archives and check to see if your email actually made the list, before thinking you bounced an email. NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:02:51 -0500> From: sbeatty@broadreach.net> To: bp2000@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BP2000] testing for a bounce> > Thanks, Nelda. I meant that I was receiving a copy of any message I > sent out to> BP2000 as a return to my email box, with the sender of that email not > being me,> but from the address <BP2000-bounces@rootsweb.com>. It happened three times. I> had never seen a posting from rootsweb come back that way. I am familiar with> ..-request and.....-list and ....-digest@rootsweb.com as addresses for lists,> but never ...-bounces@rootsweb.com! I also was getting no incoming email. In> the meantime, I now have a BP posting and two other emails, so I guess things> are looking up. I wanted to post the obituary for my father-in-law who passed> away last Saturday. I can't seem to make any headway with his L-48, even after> sending in a DNA sample. I had so wanted to make that breakthrough b! efore he> died, but it was not to be. sigh......Sandy Beatty L-48> > > > > Quoting Nelda Percival <nelda_percival@hotmail.com>:> > >> > Hi,> > What do you mean by back mail??Your"I'm getting back email from > > bp2000-bounces...... "> >> > NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein > > DNA Project websites - > > http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ > > LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better > > when paired up properly..." Peter > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:06:31 > > -0500> From: sbeatty@broadreach.net> To: bp2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [BP2000] testing for a bounce> > We have a new internet > > provider and so far I've received nothing from the list> since I > > subscribed under the new address and unsubscribed from the old one. > > Can> I get a response from the list admin? I'm getting back email > > from> bp2000-bounces...... >! thanks.> When replying to a digest > > message, quote only the specif ic message to which you are replying, > > removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to > > change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > > message subject to which you are replying.> > > > -!> > ------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > > send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message> > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message > > to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your > > reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it > > coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > > When replying to! a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am forwarding this e-mail.... The POW list includes 2 Beattie's G. and William Beattie. Julie, L.39 I've spent the last week doing a huge update on my Ruhleben Story website at http://ruhleben.tripod.com , with over 1700 British civilians now identified as having been interned at the Ruhleben civilian POW camp on the outskirts of Berlin. It is believed that about 5,500 POWs were held here from 1914 to 1918, including my great uncle John Paton. Many of them were merchant seamen, and many of them Scots. Most were arrested upon the outbreak of hostiltiies in Europe and interned, in response to the British arrests of German nationals in Britain. The site is free to access, and if you had a relative interned there I would love to hear from you! Chris Paton [

I was curious about this Archibald Beatty and this is what I could find. His son Wm. H. is a puzzle. Unless there were two Wm. H. Beatty born in NJ July 1857 he must have divorced his first wife and married a different wife. Donna L-3 The Globe Atchison, KS March 22, 1881 The third of the series of Lenten sermons now being delivered in Trinity church, by prominent clergymen, will be preached this evening by the Rev. Archibald Beatty, D. D., pastor of Trinity church, Lawrence, and member of the Board of Regents of the State University. Subject: "Internal Experience a witness to the truth of the Gospel." The Rev. Archibald Beatty is the gentleman who lately declared that he proposed to administer wine as a sacrament in spite of the law against it. 1881 (same paper-forgot to get date) Rev. Dr. A. Beattyof the Episcopal curch at Lawrence, long a Regent of the University, and a Christian gentleman, spoke as follows in his church last Sunday: "Most of this congregation are doubtless aware of the fact that a temperance law has been passed in this state but few of you I think know that it absolutely forbids the use of wine in the scarament, punishing the minister who administers the sacrament with two years imprisonment in the penitentiary, and shutting up the church in which the act was done as a public nuisance. I need not say to you that I shall go right on with our services in spite of this law. The bishop and clergy of our church have decided to pay no attention whatever to any such law.......(another paragraph) May 6, 1881 Rev. Dr. Beatty, the Lawrence minister, having declared that he would administer fermented wine at the communion table , was threatened with arrest if he attemped any such infraction of the law. "Every temperance paper in the state," says Dr. Beatty, "denounced me in unmeasured terms. The Topeka Capital declared that "the law is against fermented wine at the communion table, " and held me up as "raising a factious opposition against the law."Another paper the Kingsly Republican after a tirade of personal abuse, said "We hope soon to know that the law has laid its heavy hand upon this man and that he has been made to feel its force." "We want to see him snatched up by the law and then see them shatch him baldheaded." The pulpit has also lent itself to the utterance of the vilest slander and I have been informed of a public meeting in which a committee was appointed for the purpose of villifying me in the daily papers on this question. I have received abusive anonymous letters on the subject and a large number of papers with articles marked, containing such approbious epithets as could be applied only to the most despicable characters. 1850 PA SCHUYLKILL SCHUYLKILL 75 81 BEATTY ARCHIBALD 27 1823 PA ARCHIBALD BEATTY 27 PA IN HOTEL RUN BY HENRY KEPNER ARCHIBALD - PROTESTANT EPISCOPALIAN CLERGYMAN ;19 AUG 1850 BY F.LAUDERHAUS 1860 United States Federal Census about Arch Beatty Name: Arch Beatty Age in 1860: 36 Birth Year: abt 1824 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1860: Philadelphia Ward 8, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Gender: Male Post Office: Philadelphia Value of real estate: View Image Household Members: Name Age Arch Beatty 36 PE clergyman 1000 Ireland Mary Beatty 34 Ireland Anna Beatty 4 PA William Beatty 3 PA Leighton Beatty 2 PA Mary Beatty 5.12 PA Maggie Porter 27 domestic Ireland 1870 United States Federal Census about Archibald Beatty Name: Archibald Beatty Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Age in 1870: 44 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1870: Fort Scott Ward 2, Bourbon, Kansas Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Fort Scott Archibald Beatty 44 Episcopal minister 1200-1200 Ireland Mary S. 39 Ireland Anna S. 14 PA William H. 12 NJ Leegleton V. 11 PA Ellen? Mary 8 PA George B. 7 PA 1880: 2nd Ward, Lawrence, Douglas, Kansas Source: FHL Film 1254380 National Archives Film T9-0380 Page 74C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Archabald BEATTY Self M M W 54 IRE Occ: Preacher Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Mary S. BEATTY Wife F M W 50 IRE Occ: Keeping House Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Annie E. BEATTY Dau F S W 23 PA Occ: Student Fa: IRE Mo: IRE George B. BEATTY Son M S W 17 PA Occ: Student Fa: IRE Mo: IRE 1900 United States Federal Census about Archibel Beatty Name: Archibel Beatty Home in 1900: Newton Ward 4, Harvey, Kansas Age: 77 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Birthplace: Ireland Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's Name: Mary S Race: White Occupation: View Image Immigration Year: 1897 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Archibel Beatty 77 head Mar? 1822 78 mar 45 ys Irel Irel Irel (??1897-been uS 63 ys) Mary S Beatty 79 wife aug 1826 mar 45 ys 6 ch 4 lvg Ire Ire Ire (1830? 70 ys in US) 1900 United States Federal Census about William Beatty Name: William Beatty Home in 1900: Palmyra, Douglas, Kansas Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: New Jersey Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's Name: Nettie G Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Beatty 42 head jul 1857 mar 15 ys NJ Ire Ire merchant dry goods Nettie G Beatty 38 wife feb 1862 mar 15 ys 1 ch 1 ch KS NY NY James/Jerome G Beatty 13 son nov 1886 KS NJ KS (looks like Jerome to me-index James) World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Jerome Griswold Beatty Name: Jerome Griswold Beatty City: Manhattan County:511 W. 113th? st. NYC. New York State: New York Birthplace: Lawrence, Kansas;United States of America Birth Date: 14 Nov 1886 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 1766376 DraftBoard: 135 motion picture publicity-McClure Publications NYC married with wife & child 1910 United States Federal Census about Mary S Beatty Name: Mary S Beatty Age in 1910: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: William H Father's Birth Place: New Jersey Mother's Name: Maud M Mother's Birth Place: Kansas Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 7, Cook, Illinois Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William H Beatty 52 head mar 10 ys NJ Ire Ire salesman shirt mfg. Maud M Beatty 40 wife mar 10 ys 4ch 3 lvg KS NY NY Alice M Beatty 8 dau MO Mary S Beatty 1 dau IL 1910 United States Federal Census about Jerome G Beatty Name: Jerome G Beatty Age in 1910: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: Kansas Relation to Head of House: Lodger Father's Birth Place: Kansas Mother's Birth Place: Kansas Home in 1910: Kansas Ward 2, Jackson, Missouri Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Lina McDonald 52 Jerome G Beatty 23 lodger KS KS KS editor of newspaper 1920 United States Federal Census about William Herbert Beatty Name: William Herbert Beatty Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 6, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Age: 62 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: New Jersey Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Maude Martin Father's Birth Place: Ireland Mother's Birth Place: Ireland Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 1034 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Herbert Beatty 62 head NJ Irel Irel owner furnishing store Maude Martin Beatty 50 wife KS NY NY Alice Beatty 18 dau MO NJ KS saleslady in father's store Mary Seids Beatty 11 dau chicago NJ KS Hazel Gundersen 26 roomer IA WI WI typist for Marshall Field 1920 United States Federal Census about Jeanne Batty Name: Jeanne Batty Home in 1920: Yonkers Ward 1, Westchester, New York Age: 33 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: Kansas Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Dorothea Father's Birth Place: Kansas Mother's Birth Place: Kansas Marital Status: Married Race: White Home owned: Rent Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 747 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jerome Batty 33 head KS KS KS writer Dorothea Batty 33 wife KS Jerome Batty 3 1/12 son NY James Batty 9/12 son NY 1930 United States Federal Census about Jerome Beatty Name: Jerome Beatty Home in 1930: Pelham, Westchester, New York Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: Kansas Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Dorothy Race: White Household Members: Name Age Jerome Beatty 43 head mar at age 28 KS KS KS author-writes at home Dorothy Beatty 43 wife mar age 28 KS Canada KS Jerome Beatty 13 son NY James Beatty 11 son NY ------------------------------------ From: <TeamBeatty@aol.com> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BP2000] Archabald Beatty Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:34 AM Hello All, I have a secondary Beatty line that is not related to my primary Beatty line (L-79) and it has not yet been assigned a lineage number. I have not recognized any matches on this list or the BP2000 website, but I am hoping that maybe someone closer to this family will recognize it. Please contact me directly if you have any info on this family. Thanks, and best of luck! ~matthew beatty (L-79) (best viewed maximized) Descendants of Archabald Beatty 1 Archabald Beatty Born: 1826 in Ireland Died: Unknown .. +Mary Seeds Born: 1830 in Ireland Died: Unknown ........ 2 William Herbert Beatty Born: 8 Jul 1857 in Clarksboro, Gloucester County, New Jersey Died: Aft. 1920 ............ +Maude Martin Born: 20 Jul 1869 in Kansas Died: Aft. 1920 ................... 3 Alice Martin Beatty Born: 29 Jul 1901 in Kansas City, Missouri Died: 5 May 1937 in Chicago, Illinois ....................... +Lawrence Gerhart Wigdahl Born: 2 Dec 1893 in Ruthven, Iowa Died: 24 May 1953 in St. Joseph, Michigan ............................. 4 Carol Ann Wigdahl Born: 9 Feb 1932 in Chicago, Illinois ................................. +William Earl Sayre Born: 19 Oct 1931 in Cleveland Died: 16 Aug 1987 in Stockton, California ................... 3 Mary Seeds Beatty Born: 20 Feb 1909 in Chicago, Illinois Died: 17 Jun 1980 in Pleasanton, Alameda County, California ........ 2 Annie E. Beatty Born: Abt. 1857 in Pennsylvania Died: Unknown ........ 2 George B. Beatty Born: Abt. 1863 in Pennsylvania Died: Unknown ------------------------- Civil War Pension Index Name Widow State Filed Relative Minor Archibald Beatty Mary ??. Beatty Kansas U.S. Civil War Soldiers, 1861-1865 about Archibald Beatty Name: Archibald Beatty Side: Union Regiment State/Origin: New Jersey Regiment Name: 34 New Jersey Infantry Regiment Name Expanded: 34th Regiment, New Jersey Infantry COMPANY: F&S Rank In: Chapl'n. Rank In Expanded: Chaplain Rank Out: Chapl'n. Rank Out Expanded: Chaplain Alternate Name: Archibald B./Beatty Film Number: M550 roll 2 American Civil War Soldiers about Archibald Beatty Name: Archibald Beatty , Enlistment Date: 9 Nov 1863 Side Served: Union State Served: New Jersey Service Record: Enlisted as a Chaplain on 9 November 1863. Commission in Company S, 34th Infantry Regiment New Jersey on 9 Nov 1863. Discharged from Company S, 34th Infantry Regiment New Jersey on 14 Nov 1865 at Washington, DC. Sources: 13 ------------------- THE EPISCOPAL CONVENTION.; MATTERS DISCUSSED AND ACTION TAKEN BY THE TWO HOUSE. E-MAIL Save October 26, 1883, Wednesday Page 3, 590 words PHILADELPHIA, Penn., Oct. 25.--To-day's session of the Protestant Episcopal Church Convention was opened with morning prayer by the Rev. Archibald Beatty, D.D., of Kansas, and the Rev. William H. Moffett, of Northern New-Jersey. ----------------- A Standard History of Kansas and Kansans, written & compiled by William E. Connelley,1918, transcribed by Tonya Burks, student from USD 508, Baxter Springs Middle School, Baxter Springs, Kansas, September 7, 1999. Kansas and Kansans: Volume 5 Nellie Griswold Beatty.Every man, woman and child in the City of Lawrence knows Mrs. Nellie G. Beatty. Being a native daughter of Kansas and of Lawrence, and having been during the last fifteen years in charge of the popular public library, her name is familiar in every home in the city. Her parents were Dr. Jerome F. Griswold and Helen Mary (Hewitt) Griswold. They were among the early settlers of the free state town, and Doctor Griswold was one of the victims in the inhuman massacre of the Quantrell raid. Nellie Griswold grew to womanhood in Lawrence and attended the public school, the high school and the State University. In college she was a member of the Kappa Alpha Theta sorority. Down town she was connected with such organizations as the Friends in Council, the Congregational Church and the Order of the Eastern Star. She was married June 18, 1885, to W. H. Beatty. Their son, Jerome Griswold Beatty, has made an unusual success as a newspaper correspondent and short story writer. He is at present publicity director of the McClure Film Corporation. His wife was Dorothea Jane McKnight. Ever since the Carnegie endowment and the organization of the Lawrence Free Public Library, Mrs. Beatty has been the librarian in charge, and she is largely responsible for its development into a modern and highly efficient educational institutions. She took charge of the city library when it was managed on the subscription plan with about 350 patrons; facilities for service have been increased many times in the new library, and there are now more than 5,000 ticket holders. Even this does not express the extent of development that has taken place during her administration, for the library in its relationship to the public schools, the university, the various study clubs and the public in general, exerts an influence that is not to be measured by statistics. This, Mrs. Beatty regards as her life work, and she herself takes more pride in the high status that the library has attained than in any other achievement of her life, except in being the mother of Jerome Beatty. Her wisdom in library matters is recognized among librarians, and she has always stood high in the councils of the State Library Association, and has served as its secretary for several years, and as its president. ----------- History of Gloucester, Salem & Cumberland NJ 183 pg. 211 Township of East Greenwich In October of 1856 the Rev. Archibald Beatty came. His rectorship lasted only about three years, but they were fruitful in good work, and a goodly number of useful members were gathered into the church. He afterwards became a very prominent clergyman in Kansas, growing in usefulness and distinction with the growth of the young diocese......

http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcb/ Magna Britannia Cumberland Thought you might like to read it... its the border area, I just finished transcribing... Need url if any links don't work NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter

I guess I now know why it is so important to catch families on as many census as possible. Sarah J. Betty/Beatty Bowers is 47 in 1910, 61 in 1920 and 84 in 1930. From the 1850 census the 1930 census is pretty close. Donna L-3 PINEDALE ROUNDUP Pinedale, Wyoming June 15, 1916 James H. Beatty, aged 79, was found dead in bed at the home of his sister, Mrs. J. R. Bowers in Encampment, death resulting from heart failure. 1850 United States Federal Census about George W Better Name: George W Better Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Birth Place: Tennessee Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): District 56, Woodford, Illinois George W. Better 39 farmer TN Lydia 30 IN James 14 In Mary 12 IN Caroline 6 In Sarah 5 IL Geo 9/12 IL 1910 United States Federal Census about John R Bowers Name: John R Bowers Age in 1910: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Birthplace: Missouri Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Virginia Mother's Birth Place: Virginia Spouse's Name: Sarah J Home in 1910: Collins, Carbon, Wyoming Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John R Bowers 42 head mar 17 ys MO VA VA barber Sarah J Bowers 47 wife mar 2 times 17 ys 2 ch 1 lvg KS IL IL Pearl D Bowers 8 dau MO MO KS Thomas E Douglas 32 boarder 1920 United States Federal Census about John R Bower Name: John R Bower Home in 1920: Encampment, Carbon, Wyoming Age: 52 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Birthplace: Missouri Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah J Father's Birth Place: Virginia Mother's Birth Place: West Virginia Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 892 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John R Brown/Bower 52 head MO VA WV Sarah J Brown/Bower 61 wife IL TN?? IN???? Pearl D Brown/Bower 17 dau MO MO IL Ruth E Loss 24 boarder 1930 United States Federal Census about Sarah J Bowers Name: Sarah J Bowers Home in 1930: Encampment, Carbon, Wyoming Age: 84 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: John R Household Members: Name Age John R Bowers 67 head mar at 25 NE PA PA Sarah J Bowers 84 wife mar at 42 IL IL IL ------------------------- From: <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BP2000] Betty Civil War pensions Date: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:05 PM I copied the index cards for all of the "Betty" Civil War Pension cards contained in the General Pension Index at the National Archives. I requested copies of all of these files and copied a limited amount of material from each one so that I could prepare an abstract to help identify the soldiers.Betty Civil War Pension Index 4) Betty, James H. "A" 14, Illinois Cavalry; filed June 2, 1897 in California; certificate # 982799 On Dec. 23, 1912 James H. Betty is a resident of Henderson, Shasta County, California. He states that he was born on Nov. 12, 1836. He enlisted in Feb. of 1863 at Peori, Illinois and was discharged at Pulaski, Tennessee on July 31, 1862. Since his service he has lived at Kansas about 5 years, Mexico about 2 years and California about 27 years up to the present time. James states "I have no wife and never had a wife and never expect to have a wife.got no children." He gives the date of his birth on another form as Nov. 12, 1836, Indiana. "James H. Betty of Henderson, Shasta county, Calif. Died at Encampment, Wyoming the 17th day of May, 1916. John Larkin, public Administrator of this county is the administrator of the Estate." **************************************************************************** A BEATTY PROJECT 2000 DOCUMENT LINEAGE 1 3 3 This lineage was updated 1/15/98 by Bruce Coonrod <coonrod@cam-walnet.com> Descendants of George Betty Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE1 BETTY was born 1742 in England, and died May 1809 in Warren, Nc. Notes for GEORGE BETTY: This lineage is the research of Bruce Coonrod <coonrod@cam-walnet.com>. Children of GEORGE BETTY are: i. BENJAMIN2 BETTY, b. 1773, Warren, Nc; d. November 1810, Warren, Nc. 2. ii. ISAAC BETTY, b. 1774, Warren, Nc; d. July 1821, Smith, Tn. iii. ROWLAND BETTY, b. 1776, Warren, Nc; d. 1811, Warren, Nc; m. ELIZABETH WALKER, October 23, 1805, Warren, Nc. 3. iv. WILLIAM BETTY, b. 1777, Warren, Nc. v. HENRY BETTY, b. 1780, Warren, Nc; d. 1820, Tn; m. SALLY DAVIS, 1802, Warren, Nc. 4. vi. JOHN BETTY, b. 1784, Chatham, Nc; d. 1816, Smith, Tn. vii. MARY BETTY, b. 1787; m. BENNETT. viii. CHILD BETTY, b. 1788. ix. CHILD BETTY, b. 1790, Warren, Nc. Generation No. 2 2. ISAAC2 BETTY (GEORGE 1) was born 1774 in Warren, Nc, and died July 1821 in Smith, Tn. He married MARTHA TURNER CHEEK 1804 in Warren, Nc. Children of ISAAC BETTY and MARTHA CHEEK are: i. ROBERT CARROLL3 BETTY, m. MARY DARCUS WARREN. ii. LOUISA T BETTY, b. 1803; d. 1840; m. ZACHARIAH CROSS. 5. iii. WILLIAM RANDOLPH BETTY, b. 1807; d. 1890. iv. ARAMINTO BETTY, b. 1809; m. ROBERT LANCASTER. v. ISAAC BETTY JR, b. 1811. 6. vi. ALFRED MEEKEN BETTY, b. 1813; d. 1902. 3. WILLIAM2 BETTY (GEORGE 1) was born 1777 in Warren, Nc. He married UNKNOWN 1800 in Williamson, Tn. Child of WILLIAM BETTY and UNKNOWN is: i. WILLIAM H3 BETTY, b. 1801; d. 1883; m. MARY CORINGTON. 4. JOHN2 BETTY (GEORGE 1) was born 1784 in Chatham, Nc, and died 1816 in Smith, Tn. He married (1) UNKNOWN 1799 in Warren, Nc. He married (2) BETSY SIGHTS July 11, 1808 in Davison, Tn. Child of JOHN BETTY and UNKNOWN is: i. MARIAH3 BETTY, b. 1800, Halifax, Chatham, Nc. Children of JOHN BETTY and BETSY SIGHTS are: ii. MARY PERMELIA POLLY3 BETTY, b. Abt. 1809, Chatham, Nc; m. STEPHEN TURNER, September 6, 1836, Williamson, Tn. 7. iii. GEORGE W BETTY, b. 1811, Smith or Davison, Tn; d. 1857, Brown, Ks. Generation No. 3 5. WILLIAM RANDOLPH3 BETTY (ISAAC 2, GEORGE 1) was born 1807, and died 1890. He married EMILY CORNICK. Children of WILLIAM BETTY and EMILY CORNICK are: i. HORATIO C4 BETTY, m. JANE. ii. RICHARD BETTY. iii. WILLIAM FRANCIS BETTY. iv. JAMES K BETTY, m. MAY HOLLAND. v. ANN H BETTY, m. JAMES B ANDERSON. 6. ALFRED MEEKEN3 BETTY (ISAAC 2, GEORGE 1) was born 1813, and died 1902. He married ELIZABETH J FARMER. Children of ALFRED BETTY and ELIZABETH FARMER are: i. LUTHER4 BETTY, m. REBECCA TROUSDALE. ii. MARTHA ANN BETTY, m. JESSE KERR. iii. STEVEN A BETTY. iv. HARRIETT BETTY, m. HENRY PETTY. v. JAMES MONROE BETTY, m. MARTHA ANN MADDOX. vi. MARY JANE BETTY, m. R B TRAWICK. vii. GEORGE W BETTY. viii. FRANCIS BETTY, m. CASS BRASWELL. ix. WINFIELD SCOTT BETTY, m. (1) HELEN DILLARD; m. (2) MARGARET ALLEN. x. LEMUEL G BETTY, m. CATHERINE (CASSIE) OVERSTREET. 7. GEORGE W3 BETTY (JOHN 2, GEORGE 1) was born 1811 in Smith or Davison, Tn, and died 1857 in Brown, Ks. He married LYDIA ANN STEWART December 24, 1833 in Harrison, In. Children of GEORGE BETTY and LYDIA STEWART are: i. JAMES HARRY4 BETTY, b. November 12, 1836, Floyd, In; d. May 17, 1916, Shasta, Ca. ii. MARY (MAG) BETTY, b. 1838, In; d. Pueblo, Pueblo, Co. iii. ALWIDA CAROLINE BETTY, b. August 16, 1843, New Albany, Floyd, In; d. October 10, 1890, Cottonwood Falls, Chase, Ks; m. JOHN H ZIMMERMAN, July 20, 1860, Hiawatha, Brown, Ks. iv. SARAH JANE (KATE) BETTY, b. 1846, Springfield, Sanganon, Il; d. Ca; m. JOHN ROSS BOWER, October 3, 1892, Schuyler, Colfax, Ne. 8. v. GEORGE HURON BETTY, b. December 17, 1849, Springfield, Sangamon, Il; d. January 8, 1908, Americus, Lyon, Ks. vi. EMILY L (KIT) BETTY, b. 1852, Springfield, Sanganon, Il; d. Encampment, Carbon, Wy. 9. vii. FRANCES LAYFAYETTE BETTY, b. July 1854, Woodford, Il; d. February 22, 1922, Wiley, Prowers, Co. Generation No. 4 8. GEORGE HURON4 BETTY (GEORGE W 3, JOHN 2, GEORGE 1) was born December 17, 1849 in Springfield, Sangamon, Il, and died January 8, 1908 in Americus, Lyon, Ks. He married LAURA ROSETTA ANNO November 2, 1879 in Hiawatha, Brown, Ks. Children of GEORGE BETTY and LAURA ANNO are: 10. i. MAGGIE MAE5 BETTY, b. October 1, 1880, Hiawatha, Brown, Ks; d. 1966, Wichita, Sedgwick, Ks. ii. CORA IDA BETTY, b. May 4, 1882, Hiawatha, Brown, Ks; d. February 18, 1982, Fruita, Mesa, Co; m. MIKE FROMM, June 25, 1925, Glenwood Springs, Co. iii. ORVILLE WASHINGTON BETTY, b. December 12, 1883, Horton, Doniphan, Ks; d. October 2, 1964, Emporia, Lyon, Ks; m. (1) JUNE KNOX; m. (2) EDNA A KNOX, September 19, 1923, Hutchinson, Reno, Ks. 11. iv. ANNA ELIZABETH BETTY, b. October 24, 1885, Tipenville, Jackson, Ks; d. March 3, 1982, Marshfield, Wood, Wi. 12. v. LOUIS JOHN (DUTCH) BETTY, b. March 15, 1887, Ks; d. May 15, 1959, Carleton, Ne. 13. vi. BERNARD GRANVEL BETTY, b. April 21, 1889, Ks; d. September 14, 1957, Emporia, Lyon, Ks. 14. vii. LEE ROY BETTY, b. February 5, 1891, Holton, Jackson, Ks; d. April 19, 1961, Strong City, Chase, Ks. 15. viii. BERTHA FAY BETTY, b. February 15, 1893, Cottonwood Falls, Chase, Ks; d. September 12, 1957, Emporia, Lyon, Ks. 16. ix. NINA LILLIAN BETTY, b. February 22, 1895, Hymer, Chase, Ks; d. December 25, 1961, Kansas City, Mo. 17. x. CARRIE MAUDE (MIMI) BETTY, b. December 5, 1896, Elmdale, Chase, Ks; d. June 14, 1978, Manhattan, Riley, Ks. xi. GERTRUDE ELLEN BETTY, b. November 2, 1898, Chase, Ks; d. January 25, 1982, Fruita, Mesa, Co. 18. xii. HELEN IRENE BETTY, b. December 19, 1900, Chase, Ks. 19. xiii. MARTHA FRANCES BETTY, b. August 16, 1903, Chase, Ks; d. February 6, 1990, Austin, Tx. 9. FRANCES LAYFAYETTE4 BETTY (GEORGE W 3, JOHN 2, GEORGE 1) was born July 1854 in Woodford, Il, and died February 22, 1922 in Wiley, Prowers, Co. He married MARTHA J ANNO March 7, 1880. Children of FRANCES BETTY and MARTHA ANNO are: i. CHARLES5 BETTY, b. 1881; d. 1893. ii. DORA MARIE BETTY, b. July 5, 1884; d. 1977, Ordway, Co; m. JEROME J GREGORY. iii. PEARL BETTY, b. 1886, Springfield, Mo. iv. LENA BETTY, b. 1888, Springfield, Il; m. BEN SMALLWOOD. v. MYRTLE BETTY, b. 1890; d. 1894. vi. EDWARD G BETTY, b. 1892, Ks; d. July 2, 1942, Lamar, Co; m. ALMA TRIEMER, 1912, Chase, Ks. vii. DICEY BETTY, b. 1893; d. 1893. viii. CURTIS BETTY, b. March 28, 1894, Preston, Ks; d. March 15, 1960, Mattoon, Il. ix. RUTH BETTY, b. June 22, 1897, Ks; d. May 5, 1968, Lamar, Co. x. LOURINE BETTY, b. September 4, 1900, St. Joseph, Mo; d. May 5, 1994, Omaha, Ne; m. THOMAS S HUNT.

I don't know a L-? for James but if you are squeamish just delete. Donna L-3 SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS (San Antonio, TX) August 22, 1893 MURDERED BY A JEALOUS LOVER SHOOTS HIS RIVAL, HIS sWEETHEART AND THEN HIMSELF Waylaid Returning From Church and the Dead Bodies Found on the Road-She Spurned His Love Palo Pinto, Tex., Aug. 21-(Special) A terrible tradgedy occurred in the village at a bend of the Brazos river, five miles southeast of Palo Pinto yesterday evening about 10 o'clock. The particulars as given by Dr. D. B. Warren, just from the scene, are these: Edward Nall had been paying his respects to Miss Ida Beatty, a young lady 17 years old, the daughter of James Beatty, a respectable citizen of this county. He and the young lady were on very friendly terms and he fell in love with her. She was not so serious about the matter as he, and after weighing the matter of a marriage seriously she backed out and discarded Nall's attention in a measure. He became jealous and went into a spell of lunacy over the matter and made up his mind to end the matter by taking her life as well as his own. A young man by the name of James W. Bly was paying some attention to Miss Beatty and had accompanied her out a few times. Last evening he went with the young lady to church at Pleasant Valley. Everything was a round of pleasantness and no thought of the terrible ending was on the mind of anyone. Ed Nall appeared at the church and seemed to keep aloof from everyone and appeared to be morose. Church over, the congregation dispersed and Miss Beatty and Mr. Bly had gone about four miles on their road home, traveling south from the church. At the south side of D. L. Cunningham's farm Nall appeared with a Winchester gun in his hand. He shot J. W. Bly through the heart, killing him instantly. When he shot Bly Miss Beatty's horse became frightened and broke away. Nall followed overtaking her about 400 yards from where Bly was shot. Both leaped from their horses. She evidently tried to evade him as the tracks on the ground showed. He struck her with the gun, breaking her skull, when she was heard to scream. Then he shot her through the head and turned the gun and shot himself, blowing the top of his head off. J. M. Bly, father of the young man, and a sister of the young lady, were riding about 100 yards ahead of the murdered couple and hearing the gun turned back reaching young Bly's dead body about the time Nall shot the girl and himself. It was sometime before the other two bodies were found. --------------------------------- NEW HOPE CEMETERY-Palo Pinto co., TX New Hope Cemetery is northeast of the Lone Camp community. Travel north from IH 20on FM Road 4 about 9 miles through Santo to Lone Camp. Continue north from Lone Camp for another 1.3 miles to the New Hope Road. Turn east onto the New Hope Road and follow the paved road for just over 1 mile to the cemetery. There are 265 graves with monuments or funeral home markers and quite a few graves that are unmarked or marked only rocks. The oldest grave belongs to Jefferson N. Beaty, b: 3-25-1863; d: 2-11-1891. Name of Deceased Birth Death Comments Beaty, Amanda L. 27 JUL 1890 13 MAR 1898 Daughter of J. T. & Louise Beaty Beaty, Bettie 14 OCT 1854 29-Jan-1942 Double stone with James E. Beaty************ Beaty, Cecil Inez 14 MAR 1899 1-May-1901 Daughter of O. O. & M. G. Beaty Beaty, E. M. 10 MAY 1858 26-Feb-1905 Woodmen of the World Memorial Beaty, Ella 1887 1902 - Beaty, Emma Louise 2-Mar-1922 - Double stone with Herman Eugene Beaty Beaty, Herman, Eugene 20-Jun-1914 - Double stone with Emma Louise Beaty Beaty, Idal 27 MAY 1874 20 AUG 1893 Daughter of James E. & F. E. Beaty ************ Beaty, Idell 30 NOV 1892 12 AUG 1899 Son of O. O. & M. G. Beaty Beaty, James Curtis 23 APR 1885 12-May-1958 Dad; Double stone with Ruth Ersel Beaty Beaty, James E. 3 AUG 1847 3-Dec-1944 Double stone with Bettie Beaty; ************** Pvt Co B Johnstons GA Cav Confederate States Army Beaty, Jefferson M. 27 MAY 1863 11 FEB 1891 - Beaty, Rena 25 AUG 1870 6-Mar-1939 Mother; Double stone with Rev. W. A. Beaty Beaty, Rev. W. A. 22 DEC 1864 15-Oct-1937 Father; Double stone with Rena Beaty Beaty, Ruth Ersel 29 AUG 1895 6-Jul-1975 Mother; Double stone with James Curtis Beaty Beaty, Sarah Ann 28 APR 1824 9-May-1910 Wife of T. R. Beaty Beaty, Virginia H. 28 DEC 1857 24 MAR 1892 Wife of E. M. Beaty Beaty, Willie A. 28 MAR 1892 9 APR 1893 Dau. of W. A. & O. A. Beaty Beesley, Ellis 23 SEP 1880 4-Sep-1967 - Bly, James W. 17 SEP 1872 20 AUG 1893 Son of J. M. Margaret Bly************************ ------------------------------------------ 1900 United States Federal Census about James E Batey Name: James E Batey Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 4, Palo Pinto, Texas Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Birthplace: Georgia Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's Name: Fannie E Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James E Batey 52 head aug 1847 mar 32 ys GA GA GA farm Fannie E Batey 45 wife oct 1854 mar 32 ys 10 ch 8 living GA MS GA Curtis Batey 15 son apr 1885 TX GA GA Ella Batey 12 dau nov 1887 TX Charlie Batey 10 apr 1890 TX Addie Batey 7 aug 1892 TX Carl Batey 5 feb 1895 TX 1880 United States Federal Census about Ida Bealy Name: Ida Bealy Home in 1880: Summerville, Chattooga, Georgia Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Birthplace: Georgia Relation to Head of Household: Daughter Father's Name: James E. Father's birthplace: Georgia Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mother's birthplace: Georgia Neighbors: View others on page Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age James E. Bealy/Beaty 33 farm GA Unk Unk Elizabeth Bealy 25 wife GA MS GA Ida Bealy 6 dau GA GA GA Minnie Bealy 4 dau GA GA GA Birdie Bealy 2 dau GA GA GA Lula Bealy 3M dau GA GA GA Jefferson Bealy 17 brother GA Unk Unk 1870 Chattooga co., GA Dist. 925 pg. 98 James Baity 22 farmer -200 GA Margaret 22 housekeeper GA (next household) Thomas Baity 49 farmer -800 GA Sarah 46 GA James B. 24 farm labor GA John T. 18 GA Sarah 20 GA EZekiel 17 farm labor GA Huldy A. 15 GA Alexander 12 GA Georgia 10 GA Benjamin 8 GA Jefferson L. 6 GA Willie H. 4 GA 1880: District 155, Palo Pinto, Texas Source: FHL Film 1255322 National Archives Film T9-1322 Page 127A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Ezeikel BAETY Self M M W 27 GA Occ: Farmer Fa: GA Mo: GA Virginia BAETY Wife F M W 22 GA Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: ... Ocela BAETY Son M S W 4 GA Fa: GA Mo: GA Franklin BAETY Son M S W 2 TX Fa: GA Mo: GA Fannie BAETY Dau F S W 2M TX Fa: GA Mo: GA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1880: Texas Valley, Floyd, Georgia Source: FHL Film 1254146 National Archives Film T9-0146 Page 217A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thomas R. BEATY Self M M W 59 GA Occ: Farming Fa: GA Mo: GA Sarah A. BEATY Wife F M W 36 GA Occ: Keeping House Fa: SC Mo: SC Huldy A. BEATY Dau F S W 24 GA Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA Georgia BEATY Dau F S W 22 GA Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA William BEATY Son M S W 15 GA Occ: Labor Fa: GA Mo: GA First Home Mouth of Boggy Creek Mr. And Mrs. A. S. Beaty Built http://www.rootsweb.com/~txpalopi/oddsnends/1857-1957news/beaty.htm Mr. and Mrs. A. S. Beaty landed in Palo Pinto County in 1884, stopping at Santo where they were met at the train by Zeke Beaty who had come as a young man to the country. They went, soon, to the New Hope community where Zeke and his family lived and later moved on to the mouth of Boggy Creek. There they settled in a double log cabin for a time sharing the cabin with Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Finch until springtime when they built a log cabin with a lean-to for their new home. Both Mr. and Mrs. Beaty were natives of Atlanta, Ga., and were married in 1879. Mr. Beaty owned and operated a saw mill in the small town of Alpine, Ga., where the couple settled for a time. Doctors advised a change of climate for Mr. Beaty and they decided to move to Texas. By this time, they had two children, a daughter, Dora, and a son, Tom, and they left by immigrant train bound for the west. A brother, Jim Beaty, and his family were also on the train and the group assembled at Menloe, leaving there Dec. 8, 1884. Dora, the 4-year-old daughter of the A. S. Beatys, now Mrs. Lewis Rogers, remembers the trip and especially the crossing of the Mississippi River. It was flood time and the train was over water for about 5 miles and the train had to be divided and taken over in sections, thereby delaying all the passengers. Crude lanterns furnished the only light and they were carried by overseers. She remembers the singing of the Negroes as they progressed and remembered it as a terrifying experience. They landed in Santo 5 days after they left home.A sage suggestion was made by Mrs. Rogers in relating the story when she said they spent the first few years trying to learn the ways of Texas and "to learn about Texas weather, which she is sure they never did". The drought of 1886-87 followed their arrival by a few years and they thought they were going to starve to death. Leaving the old state with its plentiful crops of fruit and vegetables and springs of cold water, it was hard to haul water from the river. Okra, which grew wild or volunteer, was the only vegetable available and it is strange how many ways could be found to prepare it. Stalks grew on the river and in fence rows. By the end of the drought, only one well was still furnishing water and the men hauled water for drinking, taking certain days of the week in order not to tax the supply to much and the women gathered at the well to wash the family clothes. Mr. Beaty bought two yearlings on his arrival here and they grew into an ox team which he drove to pull the slide that he used about the farm and to haul water. Wild hogs had to be killed for meat as game was scarce and the hogs were vicious, living on acorns and raising their young in the hills and on the river. Mrs. Rogers relates a narrow escape her family had while fishing on the river. They had gone on the slide and set out hooks, when her father came running to the camp and told them to load on to the slide and the ox team, still hitched, was driven on the run to safety. They didn't wait to pick up the camping equipment. They reached safety but Mrs. Rogers states that, with the possible exception of a mountain fire, was her most frightening experience.Going to the mountains, when meat was scarce, the men would dig a hole and fix a trap putting food near for a time until hogs came willingly to the place, then they would spring the trap and quickly kill the hogs needed for a supply of bacon. This was the way hogs were trapped for food in that time.Santo was the nearest town and a doctor had to be gone after when serious illness occurred in a family. Banking was done in the Cunningham Bank in Palo Pinto, the only bank in the county at the time. When ranches were fenced, wire cutting was common and it was several years before fences were safe from cutting.Mr. Beaty died in June of 1923 at the age of 66 and Mrs. Beaty lived to be 91, passing away in 1951.

Donna, This also is L-20. This James (whose daughter was killed) was a brother of my great-grandfather (E.M. 'Zeke' Beaty). Zeke established the New Hope Cemetery on his property. The first person buried there was Jeff Beaty, another of Zeke's brothers. Ida and James Bly are buried side by side in New Hope Cemetery. But, Zeke wouldn't allow Ed Nall to be buried in this cemetery. Les Beaty, L-20

Donna, Thanks for the post. You may have connected a few dots for us in L-20. If the Robert whose obituary appeared in the San Antonio, TX paper in 1899 is truly the same Robert as appeared in the 1850 census of Gaston Co., NC, then I believe he was a great-grandson of Francis Beaty, L-20, as follows: Francis --> James --> Samuel --> Robert. That Samuel is the one living nearby in the 1850 census. The John (age 74) living next door in the census was a brother of Samuel and uncle of Robert. This Robert fits well in the family group I have for Samuel. I have 9 children with 2 born in 1825 and in 1830. I didn't have Robert listed, but he fits right in (1827). There remains a bit of a mystery. In the Midlothian Cemetery are buried Ben H. Beaty (b. 1888) and Chester A. Beaty (b. 1884). I went back and looked at Guy Beatty's 2004 message and saw the obituary of Ben H. Beaty which stated that he was born in Jasper, Indiana. Since Robert seemingly came from NC to MS to TX, I gotta wonder who this Ben H. Beaty was. Maybe that was an unrelated Beaty lineage who happened to move in to a neighborhood with L-20 Beatys. Hummmmmmmmm. Les Beaty, L-20

SAN ANTONIO DAILY EXPRESS (San Antonio, TX) Wed, June 7, 1899 PROSTRATIONS AT WAXAHACHIE Waxahachie, Tex., June 6-(Special)- Notwithstanding the high winds the temperature in the fields has been high. It is reported that Mr. Robert Beaty was overheated while assisting in the harvest of grain, death ensuing yesterday. Mr. Beaty lived at Nash. The father of Hon. Tony R. Williams was also overcome by heat in a like manner, but recovered. 1880: Precinct 1, Ellis, Texas Source: FHL Film 1255301 National Archives Film T9-1301 Page 392A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Robert BEATY Self M M W 51 NC Occ: Farmer Fa: --- Mo: --- Mary BEATY Wife F M W 32 MS Occ: Keeping House Fa: AL Mo: AL Sally BEATY Dau F S W 13 TX Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: MS Charles BEATY Son M S W 12 TX Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: MS Thomas BEATY Son M S W 9 TX Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: MS Nannie BEATY Dau F S W 6 TX Fa: NC Mo: MS Eunice BEATY Dau F S W 3 TX Fa: NC Mo: MS Pearl BEATY Dau F S W 1 TX Fa: NC Mo: MS 1900 United States Federal Census about Mary C Beaty Name: Mary C Beaty Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Ellis, Texas Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Birthplace: Mississippi Relationship to head-of-house: Head Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary C Beaty 53 head dec 1846 widowed 9 ch 8 living MS AL AL farm Sarah E Beaty 33 dau oct 1866 TX NC MS school teacher Thomas A Beaty 29 son feb 1871 TX school teacher Walter Beaty 18 son oct 1881 TX farm labor Chester A Beaty 16 son feb 1884 TX farm labor Vernon Beaty 12 dau aug 1887 TX 1910 United States Federal Census about Mary E Beaty Name: Mary E Beaty Age in 1910: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Birthplace: Mississippi Relation to Head of House: Mother Father's Birth Place: Mississippi Mother's Birth Place: Mississippi Home in 1910: Midlothian, Ellis, Texas Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thos A Beaty 39 head Mary E Beaty 63 mother Sallie E Beaty 41 sister Chester A Beaty 26 brother Vernon A Beaty 23 sister Glenwood Cemetery-Ellis co., TX Beaty, Charles Edgar Dec 6, 1868/ Jan 8 1896 Mary Elizabeth Dec 16, 1847/ Sep 11, 1913 Robert Oct 1. 1827/ Jun 4, 1899 ********************************** Thomas Armstrong Feb 22, 1871/ Jun 10, 1916 Midlothian Cemetery Beaty, Ben H. Oct 2, 1888/ Sept 1, 1954 Beaty, Lillie J. Jan 29, 1895/ Jan 14 1971 Beaty, Chester A. 8 Feb 1884/ 15 Dec 1933 Hillcrest Burial Park Cemetery Beatty, Walter W. 6 Oct 1881/ 1 Jan 1947 Beatty, Rose Mae 14 Oct 1888/ 7 July 1979 Beaty, Wm W(Bill) 1 Apr 1918/ 31 Jul 1979 WWII MM Ruth E. 28 May 1923 Cemetery info posted by: From: "Guy Beatty" <zzzguy@isp.com> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BP2000] Ellis CO TX/ Jasper IN/ Tax & Cem for Ellis CO Date: Sunday, October 17, 2004 1:41 PM xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Maybe this Robert with a first wife Mary A.???? 1850 United States Federal Census about Robert Beatty Name: Robert Beatty Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Birth Place: North Carolina Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): Gaston, North Carolina Robert Beatty 23 farm 150 NC Mary 20 NC next hh John Beatty 74 NC Smith 40 NC Nancy 30 NC next HH Samuel Beatty 56 NC Sarah 50 NC John 20 NC Lavinia 17 NC Nancy 17 NC Caroline 14 NC Elmira 11 NC 1860 United States Federal Census about Robt Beaty Name: Robt Beaty Age in 1860: 32 Birth Year: abt 1828 Birthplace: North Carolina Home in 1860: Beat 2, Bowie, Texas Gender: Male Post Office: Boston Value of real estate: View Image Household Members: Name Age Robt Beaty 32 carpenter 200 NC M A Beaty 29 lady NC R B (R. S.?) Beaty 4 (male) NC L Rankin 32 seamstress NC J A Rankin 31 carpenter NC Donna L-3

Sandy, You are supposed to recieve a copy of your emails to the list. Yes the new system uses BP2000-bounces@rootsweb.com as a return address , it is confusing because it causes the person recieving to think they actually bounced an email instead of just getting thier copy. lots of things about the new system sucks but others are really good.. so we live with it.. I'd suggest to anyone concerned to go to the lists archives and check to see if your email actually made the list, before thinking you bounced an email. NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:02:51 -0500> From: sbeatty@broadreach.net> To: bp2000@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BP2000] testing for a bounce> > Thanks, Nelda. I meant that I was receiving a copy of any message I > sent out to> BP2000 as a return to my email box, with the sender of that email not > being me,> but from the address <BP2000-bounces@rootsweb.com>. It happened three times. I> had never seen a posting from rootsweb come back that way. I am familiar with> ..-request and.....-list and ....-digest@rootsweb.com as addresses for lists,> but never ...-bounces@rootsweb.com! I also was getting no incoming email. In> the meantime, I now have a BP posting and two other emails, so I guess things> are looking up. I wanted to post the obituary for my father-in-law who passed> away last Saturday. I can't seem to make any headway with his L-48, even after> sending in a DNA sample. I had so wanted to make that breakthrough before he> died, but it was not to be. sigh......Sandy Beatty L-48> > > > > Quoting Nelda Percival <nelda_percival@hotmail.com>:> > >> > Hi,> > What do you mean by back mail??Your"I'm getting back email from > > bp2000-bounces...... "> >> > NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein > > DNA Project websites - > > http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ > > LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better > > when paired up properly..." Peter > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:06:31 > > -0500> From: sbeatty@broadreach.net> To: bp2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [BP2000] testing for a bounce> > We have a new internet > > provider and so far I've received nothing from the list> since I > > subscribed under the new address and unsubscribed from the old one. > > Can> I get a response from the list admin? I'm getting back email > > from> bp2000-bounces...... > thanks.> When replying to a digest > > message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, > > removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to > > change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > > message subject to which you are replying.> > > > -!> > ------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > > send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message> > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message > > to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your > > reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it > > coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandy, I'm sure Nelda will respond. I too noticed the change in the header of BP2000 messages. Beginning with messages dated 9/20/06, the header said the message was from <<BP2000-bounces@rootsweb.com>> instead of the sender's name. I presumed this had something to do with a change in the way Rootsweb handled messages routed through their lists. If you received your messages back from Rootsweb, you should also be receiving messages posted by others (like this one, and Nelda's). I'm sure Nelda will address that. Les Beaty, L-20

Thanks, Nelda. I meant that I was receiving a copy of any message I sent out to BP2000 as a return to my email box, with the sender of that email not being me, but from the address <BP2000-bounces@rootsweb.com>. It happened three times. I had never seen a posting from rootsweb come back that way. I am familiar with ..-request and.....-list and ....-digest@rootsweb.com as addresses for lists, but never ...-bounces@rootsweb.com! I also was getting no incoming email. In the meantime, I now have a BP posting and two other emails, so I guess things are looking up. I wanted to post the obituary for my father-in-law who passed away last Saturday. I can't seem to make any headway with his L-48, even after sending in a DNA sample. I had so wanted to make that breakthrough before he died, but it was not to be. sigh......Sandy Beatty L-48 Quoting Nelda Percival <nelda_percival@hotmail.com>: > > Hi, > What do you mean by back mail??Your"I'm getting back email from > bp2000-bounces...... " > > NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein > DNA Project websites - > http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ > LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better > when paired up properly..." Peter > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:06:31 > -0500> From: sbeatty@broadreach.net> To: bp2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [BP2000] testing for a bounce> > We have a new internet > provider and so far I've received nothing from the list> since I > subscribed under the new address and unsubscribed from the old one. > Can> I get a response from the list admin? I'm getting back email > from> bp2000-bounces...... > thanks.> When replying to a digest > message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, > removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to > change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying.> > > > -! > ------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message > to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your > reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it > coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I received the following email and asked if I could forward to the list. I believe this is L62--any cousins out there?--Laurel Baty, L252 Laurel, Don't know if your email address is still good, but here goes. Was talking on the internet about the Civil War and it's causes, so I began searching for ancestors that served in that war, and I came across your thread at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BP2000/2004-12/1104078318. The Robert Allen Beaty you speak of would have been my great-grandfather. My maternal grandmother was his daughter, Nannie Beaty Slaughter. As a kid, I visited the old home place at Buffalo, AL on numerous occasions. I didn't know my great-granddad, but I knew well Uncle George (George H. who served in WWI), Uncle Allen (R. Allen), Uncle Alec ( J.A.), and Aunt Sallie because they all lived at "the Beaty Farm." I'm sure the others, W. T. and J.L., are Uncle Willie and Uncle John, but they had married and moved out of the house so my contact with them was not as frequent. Nannie married Wesley Winston Slaughter (date unknown, although I might be able to get it), and they had four daughters and one son. My mother was Sara Allen Slaughter Hadaway. Her sisters were Mary S. Hadaway, Lois S. Burke, and Martha S. McElwee. The son, my Uncle Robert Slaughter, was named for Robert Allen Beaty (father and son, I guess). Thanks for writing that. Glad to know someone else knows about my family. -- Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge; some only gargle. James Hadaway Morgan City, LA http://crimsonpirate.tidefans.com

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Obituary from The Tribune of Jackson County [IN], Dec. 26, 2007: Charles Gardner Beatty, 89, passed away at 12:40 p.m. Saturday,, December 22, 2007, at his residence. Mr. Beatty retired in 1981 as president of Hobbs Miller Insurance. His insurance career began in 1954 and he remained as chairman of the board of Hobbs Miller Insurance and Beatty Insurance INC. after his retirement. He was a graduate of Shields High School. He was a World War II veteran serving as a tank commander with 746th Tank Battalion. He landed on Utah beach on D-Day with the Allied Forces at Normandy. He took part in the Battle of the Bulge and other combat until he was injured so seriously he had to be shipped back to the US for treatment. While in combat he received the following citations, European-African Middle Eastern Theatre Ribbon with four bronze service stars, one Bronze Arrowhead for the D-Day invasion, a Bronze Star Medal with one Oak Leaf Cluster, a Purple Heart with three Oak Leaf Clusters, a World War II Victory Medal, an American Theatre Ribbon, and Croix de Guerre with a Silver Star from the French Government. While at Schick Orthopedic Hospital in Clinton, Iowa, he met his future wife, Herta Gutzeit. He was separated from the service on Oct. 17, 1947, as a captain. Mr. Beatty was a member of First United Methodist Church of Seymour and an associate member of United Community Church of Sun City Center, FL. He was a life member of Seymour Elks Club, Seymour Eagles Club, American Legion, Jackson Lodge 146 F & AM, York rite bodies, Murat Shrine, Scottish Rite Valley of Indianapolis and a recipient of the Honorary Thirty-third degree of the Scottish Rite. Prior to his retirement Mr. Beatty was active in many community and civic organizations including, Seymour Lions Club (Past President and Keystone Award Member), Seymour Chamber of Commerce (Pat board member and Treasurer and recipient of Chamber's Citizen of the Year Award), Boys Club of Seymour (Past President, Honorary Director, Past Chairman of Hoosier Area Council, Bronze Keystone Award winner and recipient of Man and Boy Medallion), Jackson County United Fund (Past President and Drive Chairman), Independent Agents of Indiana (Past member of board of Directors and recipient of Larry McClain Community Service Award). He was former recipient of Seymour Jaycees "Boss of the Year" award. He served as a board member and secretary of all the Seymour Community School Building Corporations from Seymour High School through Seymour Middle School building projects. Born July 23, 1918, he was the son of Guy and Mary Gardner Beatty, both of whom preceded him in death. On June 8, 1946, he married his army nurse, Herta Gutzeit. They were married 61 years and she survives. Other survivors include three sons, Robert C. (Sandy) Beatty, John T. (Kay) Beatty, and Richard G. Beatty; six grandchildren, Tyler Beatty, Jared Beatty, Bart (Holly) Beatty, Bridget (Jason) Longmeier, Brooke Beatty, and Ben Beatty; and six great-grandchildren, Christian Hunnicutt, Jordan Hunnicutt, Brinkley Beatty, Blis Beatty, Charlie Longmeier, and Mack Longmeier. The Rev. Steve Cherry will conduct funeral services at 10 a.m. Friday at Foss & Sons Funeral Home in Seymour. Burial will take place in Riverview Cemetery in Seymour. Friends may call from 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday and from 9 a.m. until the time of the service Friday at the funeral home. Masonic services will be held at 7:30 p.m. Thursday at the funeral home. Memorials may be given to the Boys and Girls Club of Seymour, Schneck Medical Center Foundation, or Jackson County United Way.

Hi, What do you mean by back mail??Your"I'm getting back email from bp2000-bounces...... " NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:06:31 -0500> From: sbeatty@broadreach.net> To: bp2000-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BP2000] testing for a bounce> > We have a new internet provider and so far I've received nothing from the list> since I subscribed under the new address and unsubscribed from the old one. Can> I get a response from the list admin? I'm getting back email from> bp2000-bounces...... > thanks.> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message