Ranelle, I have a Robert E. Beaty born about 1836 in Kentucky (Possibly Virginia), but I know absolutely nothing about him except his parents are Samuel and Catherine Beaty. Armond L-32 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ranelle PARKER" <teeran54@msn.com> To: "Beaty Project 2000" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: [BP2000] Joseph S. Beaty - Arkansas>Texas >NM > Just discovered a Beaty who was a marry-in into my mother's family, my > mother descended from Robert E. Beaty. > Richard H. Wilie was married to my mother's sister, Wilma Russom; I find > no connection between this Joseph S. Beaty and our Robert E. Beaty > (L-405). However, they appear to be in Red River County, Texas in 1870 > which > is the Texas location of Robert E. Beaty and some of his descendants. >

Just discovered a Beaty who was a marry-in into my mother's family, my mother descended from Robert E. Beaty. Richard H. Wilie was married to my mother's sister, Wilma Russom; I find no connection between this Joseph S. Beaty and our Robert E. Beaty (L-405). However, they appear to be in Red River County, Texas in 1870 which is the Texas location of Robert E. Beaty and some of his descendants. 1. Joseph S,. Beaty b. 1854 in Arkansas and died 1932 in Donley County, Texas; m. Mary R. Unknown d. 1899 Donely County, Texas; 1870 Red River Co., TX; Elizabeth Baity 64 b. TX (no relationship given) Joseph Baity 15 b. Arkansas; 1880 Brown County, TX; J. S. Beaty 26, stock driver; b. Arkansas, father b. Ireland; mother b. Texas; 1900 Donley County, Texas; Joseph S. beaty 41; Lola M. 11 (dau); Laura E. 9 (dau); Lue E. 7 (dau); Robert W. Hill, brother-in-law 35; 1910 Corona, Lincoln Co., NM; Joe Beaty 53 wd; Bettie 19 (dau) (Laura E.); Lucy 17 (dau); Ollie 14 (dau); 1920 Datil, Socorro Co., NM; Joe Beaty 66; TX; Ireland; TX; Allie 24 dau; Bettie Fonville 28 dau; Louis Fonville 50, son-in-law; 1930 Greens Gap, Catron Co., NM; Joseph S. Beaty 76; Robert W. Hill 73 boarder; Edward Hendery 28, boarder; ----2. Lela May Beaty b. 27 Sep 1888, TX; d. 12 June 1975, Socorro, Socorro Co., NM. m. William Alexander Wilie b. 1880 TX; d. 1939 Donley County, Texas; ------3. Joseph B. Wilie b. 1906 Texas ------3. Mary E. Wilie b. 1909 Texas; d. 1988 Datil Cemetery, Catron Co., NM m. unknown Dickens ------3. William T. Wilie b. 1912; d. 1982 NM; ------3. Richard H. Wilie b. 1912 TX; d. 1985 Socorro, NM m. Wilma Russom b. 1913 TX (still living); ----2. Laura E. Beaty (Bettie) b. 1891 TX; m. Louis Fonville ----2. Lucy Beaty b. 1893 Texas; ----2. Ollie A. Beaty b. 1895 Texas; (female) Have been unable to determine the father of Joseph S. Beaty who appears to have been born in Ireland. I assume the Elizabeth Baity in 1870 census was his mother or grandmother but census does not record the relationship. Joseph S. Beaty appears to have only female children so DNA is out. RaNelle Nichols Parker L-405 & L-324

Armond... I thought it was cute... and understood right away... neldaRegards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/

Stephen, please forgive me, my since of humor stems from too many years teaching Sunday School to 9 and 10 year old children. My wife got it right away and really laughed, but she too was teaching in the same class, so I guess you could say we share a brain.I will explain, it sounds like a lot of trees were planted on the banks of a river and a small child may say that it was TWEED rather than TREED. In this particular picture there was trees on one side, but not the other and---oh well. Below are the URL's for two nice sites with great pictures of the RIVER TWEED. There are some nice ones here, you may have to copy and paste into your browser. http://www.doughoughton.com/webpage/page/page023.html There is 27,400 pictures of the river on this site http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=TSHA,TSHA:2005-19,TSHA:en&q=River+Tweed+Scotland+Pictures&um=1&ie=UTF-8 Armond L-32 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armond Beaty" <acbeaty@1starnet.com> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: [BP2000] River Tweed > I was amused while looking at some pictures on the Internet of the River > Tweed, maybe it does not take much to amuse me. Any way looking at the > River > tweed, I noticed it was on one side, but there was no twees on the other > side<G> > Armond > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

May I suggest that the port of entry may have been New Orleans but, the family could have taken a boat upstream to St louis and thus to Iowa. The infant could also have been christened in St louis.

I was amused while looking at some pictures on the Internet of the River Tweed, maybe it does not take much to amuse me. Any way looking at the River tweed, I noticed it was on one side, but there was no twees on the other side<G> Armond

Hi Craig, You might want to try searching Louisiana Catholic records first. Many Catholic marriage records list the parents of the bride and groom and also place of birth. Here is a link to the New Orleans Diocese (it looks like they do genealogy for a fee--often these records are in Latin and the Catholic Archives will translate the records)--you could also try the diocese where Richard Beatty's children were born--again his parents names may be listed in baptismal records of his children. http://www.archdiocese-no.org/archives/page4.htm I am always amazed at how detailed Catholic sacramental records are. Laurel Baty, L252 -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Craig Borne Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:20 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: [BP2000] Richard Edward Beatty Chart Hello list, Below, I have pasted a copy of the genealogy report for my Beatty line. This report begins with Richard Edward Beatty, but I believe that his parents might have been Patrick Beatty and Bridget Lynch, who may have moved from Ireland to Iowa to New York City, though I have no conclusive evidence of this connection. I am having trouble searching the BP 2000 charts, so I could use some assistance seeing if this family is represented in the Beatty Geneaologies on the Beatty Project website. Craig Borne Baltimore, MD cjborne@comcast.net Descendants of Richard Edward Beatty Generation No. 1 1. Richard Edward1 Beatty was born 03 March 1842 in On a ship in the Gulf of Mexico, and died 27 November 1923 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana. He married (1) Mary. She died Bef. 1867. He married (2) Johanna Ward c. 1868 in New Orleans or Amite City, Louisiana. She was born 16 May 1839 in Ireland, and died 01 December 1923 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana. More About Richard Edward Beatty: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana More About Johanna Ward: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana More About Richard Beatty and Johanna Ward: Marriage: c. 1868, New Orleans or Amite City, Louisiana Children of Richard Beatty and Johanna Ward are: + 2 i. Richard Thomas2 Beatty, born 14 November 1869 in Orleans Parish, Louisiana or Amite City, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana; died 17 April 1909 in Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana. + 3 ii. Susanna Beatty, born 19 August 1872 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana; died 17 June 1949 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana. Generation No. 2 2. Richard Thomas2 Beatty (Richard Edward1) was born 14 November 1869 in Orleans Parish, Louisiana or Amite City, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, and died 17 April 1909 in Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana. He married Martha Ann Denman Strickland 20 February 1895 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana (Source: Information from Anna P. Speed, October 11, 2000, www.genforum.com Message Board, Subject: Richard Edward Beatty.), daughter of John Strickland and Emma Powell. She was born 1878 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, and died 21 February 1955 in Abita Springs, St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana. More About Richard Thomas Beatty: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana Occupation: He was a farmer and operated a General Store in St. Helena Parish with his father. More About Martha Ann Denman Strickland: Date born 2: c. 1877, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana Burial: Greenwood Cemetery, Metairie, Louisiana More About Richard Beatty and Martha Strickland: Marriage: 20 February 1895, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana (Source: Information from Anna P. Speed, October 11, 2000, www.genforum.com Message Board, Subject: Richard Edward Beatty.) Children of Richard Beatty and Martha Strickland are: 4 i. Charles Hugh3 Beatty. 5 ii. Johanna Beatty, born in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana; died in Orleans Parish, Louisiana. She married John Schmidt; died in Orleans Parish, Louisiana. 6 iii. John Irvin Beatty. + 7 iv. Richard Edward Beatty, Sr., born 20 February 1896; died 08 November 1957. + 8 v. Emma Cordelia Beatty, born 20 June 1898 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana; died 1974 in Metairie, Jefferson Parish, Louisiana. 3. Susanna2 Beatty (Richard Edward1) was born 19 August 1872 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, and died 17 June 1949 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana. She married John Irvin Phillips 25 December 1890 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana. He was born 20 February 1870 in Amite County, Mississippi, and died 19 December 1943 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana. More About Susanna Beatty: Burial: Pine Ridge Cemetery, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana More About John Irvin Phillips: Burial: Pine Ridge Cemetery, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana More About John Phillips and Susanna Beatty: Marriage: 25 December 1890, Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana Child of Susanna Beatty and John Phillips is: 9 i. Richard Edward3 Phillips, born 23 September 1891; died 28 September 1949. He married Stella Allen; born 16 June 1891. More About Richard Edward Phillips: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana More About Stella Allen: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana Generation No. 3 7. Richard Edward3 Beatty, Sr. (Richard Thomas2, Richard Edward1) was born 20 February 1896, and died 08 November 1957. He married Jocie Phillips Bef. 1925. She was born 27 September 1901. More About Richard Edward Beatty, Sr.: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana More About Jocie Phillips: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana More About Richard Beatty and Jocie Phillips: Marriage: Bef. 1925 Child of Richard Beatty and Jocie Phillips is: 10 i. Thomas William4 Beatty, born 15 February 1925; died 03 June 1970. He married Elozie Hayden; born 02 September 1918. More About Thomas William Beatty: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana More About Elozie Hayden: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana 8. Emma Cordelia3 Beatty (Richard Thomas2, Richard Edward1) was born 20 June 1898 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, and died 1974 in Metairie, Jefferson Parish, Louisiana. She married Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Sr. January 1925, son of Henry McElveen and Mary Parker. He was born 11 November 1897 in Kentwood, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, and died 18 March 1967 in Abita Springs, St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana. More About Emma Cordelia Beatty: Burial: Mt. Hermon Cemetery, Mt. Hermon, Louisiana More About Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Sr.: Burial: Mt. Hermon Cemetery, Mt. Hermon, Louisiana More About Leahmon McElveen and Emma Beatty: Marriage: January 1925 Child of Emma Beatty and Leahmon McElveen is: + 11 i. Leahmon Pearl4 McElveen, Jr., born 20 December 1925 in New Orleans, Louisiana. Generation No. 4 11. Leahmon Pearl4 McElveen, Jr. (Emma Cordelia3 Beatty, Richard Thomas2, Richard Edward1) was born 20 December 1925 in New Orleans, Louisiana. He married Camille Jeannette Capponi 16 November 1943 in New Orleans, Louisiana, daughter of Emile Capponi and Jeanette Bulger. She was born 06 April 1927 in New Orleans, Louisiana. Notes for Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Jr.: More About Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Jr.: Military service: Bet. 1943 - 1945, United States Marine Corp-PFC Wounded at Iwo Jima in March of 1945. Lost right leg below the knee. More About Leahmon McElveen and Camille Capponi: Marriage: 16 November 1943, New Orleans, Louisiana Children of Leahmon McElveen and Camille Capponi are: + 12 i. Darryl Gayle5 McElveen, born 03 July 1946 in New Orleans, Louisiana. + 13 ii. Donna Rene McElveen, born 24 January 1951 in New Orleans, Louisiana. + 14 iii. Denise Annette McElveen, born 20 June 1954 in Decatur, Georgia. When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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Hi Les, Yes, this is the same Beatty family. Richard Edward Beatty, according to his obituary, was born on a ship in the Gulf of Mexico in 1842, while his family was immigrating to the USA. He was reared in Clinton County, Iowa, which may mean that the family immigrated through New Orleans, Galvaston, or somewhere else on the Gulf Coast. He did grow up in Iowa, though I don't believe that Clinton County, Iowa was a huge port of entry. Thus, the Chicago, Illinois theory. I believe that This area of Illinois is right over the river from Clinton County, Iowa. Richard Edward Beatty enlisted in the Union Navy, probably from Chicago. The 1st Regiment of NY Marine Artillery recruited from different parts of the country, one of which was Chicago. In 1860, there is a Richard Beatty in Elk River Township, Iowa, living with a family that were not Beattys. The thought is that the Beattys moved to New York, leaving the 18 year old Richard in Iowa for whatever reason. Sometime during the Civil War, or directly after, Richard Beatty found himself in New Orleans, where he married Johanna Ward Gray, widow of C. A. Gray. I hope this helps to clarify a very puzzling family. Craig Craig Borne Baltimore, Maryland cjborne@comcast.net "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lbeaty@higherspeed.net Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:08 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Catholic Records in Chicago, Ill.; 1842 Craig, I am thoroughly confused. Earlier you posted a multi-generational lineage of Richard Edward Beatty with birth and death information of the family in Louisiana. You indicate that this Richard Edward Beatty was born on board ship in the Gulf of Mexico on the trip from Ireland. Presumbably, they landed at New Orleans. Elsewhere you have them moving to Iowa and to New York City. Then, you have them entering the country at Chicago. This appears to be a very mobile family for the early 1800s. Are you sure you are talking about the same family? Les Beaty, L-20 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Craig, Very interesting! The easiest way to find a lineage on BP2000 is to use the geographical Index: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/Geography02.htm I don't see a family listed for Clinton Co. Iowa--but you have the other brothers to trace as well. Have you tried finding pensions for Thomas and Hugh? On the USGENweb page for Clinton Co. Sylvester is listed in a Cemetery there--I believe he died in the 1960s--perhaps you could get an obituary and see if he had any sons. So it sounds like Patrick Beatty died and Bridget was living in Iowa and possibly remarried. I noticed several Lynch families in Clinton County. Did you copy Charles Beatty's pension yourself or order it from the Archives? The Archives are rather notorious for sending incomplete files (I found one file that was over 600 pages and someone from BP2000 had ordered it--the Archives sent about them about 50 or so pages. Since Charles lived into the 1920s he should have had to prove his age--which sounds like where the information that you give comes from. I will check my files when I get home. Laurel -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Craig Borne" <cjborne@comcast.net> > Hi Laurel, > Thank you very much for your insight. I do have Charles Beatty's full > pension. It gives very good information on Charles, but not so much on his > family. His parents were indeed Patrick Beatty and Bridget Lynch, and he > lists his siblings as Thomas, Hugh, Richard, and I think Mary. I still hang > on to the notion that Charles is related to my Richard due to the similarity > of family names. Looking at Charles' brother's names, my Richard had a son > named "Richard Thomas Beatty," and R.T. Beatty had children named "Charles > Hugh" and "Richard Edward." I realize that this might be really common > Irish names in the mid 19th Century, but from Richard's children to > grandchildren, he had incorporated all of these names. > On March 14, 1925, Charles claimed to be the last of 4 brothers to join the > Army. He also claimed to arrive in New York from Ireland about October 1, > 1858 and came to Lyons, Iowa, where "my mother and brothers preceeded me." > "they were my mother's brothers here, - mine were scattered." > The only surviving male child of Charles Beatty was Sylvester Charles > Beatty. Is he listed in any of the lineages on BP2000? > Finally, the only place I can find a Richard Beatty in a naval capacity in > the Civil War was a Richard Beatty who joined the 1st Regiment NY Marine > Artillery, which recruited in Chicago, Illinois. This Richard Beatty > deserted in 1862 or 1863. Many in this unit left, and the unit was > disbanded in 1863. Many of the marines joined revenue cutter units because > the profitability was better. If Richard joined a naval outfit and ended up > in New Orleans, the probability was that he would not have used his real > name due to the prior desertion. The fact is that he claimed in his obit to > be part of the navy in New Orleans, and he did indeed end up in New Orleans > by around 1868 but possibly sooner. > Any thoughts would be very helpful. I can find Beattys on my end for the > DNA, but I am not sure where to start with respect to the Iowa Sylvester > Beatty family. > Craig > > Craig Borne > Baltimore, Maryland > cjborne@comcast.net > "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial > appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in > defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense > > -----Original Message----- > From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of laurelbaty@comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:39 AM > To: bp2000@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BP2000] More About Richard Edward Beatty > > Have you tried to get an obituary for Charles Beatty--perhaps he mentions > siblings in his obituary. We have a large Beatty DNA project--if you knew > of a living male descendant of Richard Beatty and could find a Beatty male > desecndant of Charles Beatty you could determine if the 2 were related. > There was a Charles Beaty of Clinton Co. Iowa was in the Civil War and he > appears to have a Civil War pension: > TWENTY-SIXTH REGIMENT IOWA VOLUNTEER INFANTRY > Beaty, Charles. Age 18. Residence Clinton County, nativity Illinois. > Enlisted Aug. 15, > 1862. Mustered Sept. 15, 1862. Wounded Jan. 11, 1863, Arkansas Post, Ark. > Discharged > for disability May 13, 1864, Davenport, Iowa. > > I can take a look at this pension the next time I am at the National > Archives--if this Charles Beatty is related to your Richard Beatty you may > find a lot of usueful information in the pension. You might also check for > a pension of your Richard Beatty--the Naval pensions are on microfiche and > as I mentioned Footnote.com has some Naval records. I believe I abstracted > all of these several years ago but I don't have my files with me right now. > If the above is the Charles you are interested in it is possible that the > family moved 1st to Illinois and then to Iowa. > I don't see a lineage listed for a Clinton Co. Iowa Beatty. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Craig Borne" > > > Yes, I have the death certificate for Richard Edward Beatty. The > > information is vague. His birthplace is listed as "on water from Ireland > to > > USA." There were dashes ( -- ) listed where his parents' names should have > > > been. I am clueless as where to go from here. > > Craig > > > > Craig Borne > > Baltimore, Maryland > > cjborne@comcast.net > > "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial > > appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in > > defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of laurelbaty@comcast.net > > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:58 PM > > To: bp2000@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [BP2000] More About Richard Edward Beatty > > > > Have you tried getting a death certificate for Richard Beatty? Charles > > Beatty appears to still be living in 1925 and he is enumerated in the 1925 > > > Iowa State Census--his parents names are given as Patrick Beatty and > Bridget > > Lynch. > > 1880 United States Federal Census > > Name: Charles Beaty > > Home in 1880: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa > > Age: 37 > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 > > Birthplace: Ireland > > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > > Spouse's Name: Maryan > > Father's birthplace: Ireland > > Mother's birthplace: Ireland > > Neighbors: View others on page > > Occupation: Farmer > > Marital Status: Married > > Race: White > > Gender: Male > > Household Members: Name Age > > Charles Beaty 37 > > Maryan Beaty 35 > > Clara Beaty 14 > > Susan Beaty 12 > > Angline Beaty 6 > > Mary Beaty 4 > > Martha Beaty 1 > > Frank Cooty 9 > > Jacob Dobson 21 > > George Dobson 19 > > Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: > > > T9_334; Family History Film: 1254334; Page: 78.4000; Enumeration District: > > > 286; Image: 0157. > > 1900 United States Federal Census > > Name: Sylvester Beatty > > Home in 1900: Union, Jackson, Iowa > > Age: 18 > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 > > Birthplace: Iowa > > Relationship to head-of-house: Son > > Parent's Name: Charls > > Race: White > > Occupation: View Image > > Neighbors: View others on page > > Household Members: Name Age > > Charls Beatty 57 > > Clara Beatty 34 > > Angie Beatty 25 > > Martha Beatty 21 > > Sylvester Beatty 18 > > Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Union, Jackson, Iowa; Roll: > T623 > > 438; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 70. > > 1920 United States Federal Census > > Name: Sylvester C Beatty > > Home in 1920: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa > > Age: 37 years > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 > > Birthplace: Iowa > > Relation to Head of House: Head > > Spouse's Name: Fanny > > Father's Birth Place: Ireland > > Mother's Birth Place: Iowa > > Marital Status: Married > > Race: White > > Sex: Male > > Home owned: Own > > Able to read: Yes > > Able to Write: Yes > > Image: 927 > > Neighbors: View others on page > > Household Members: Name Age > > Sylvester C Beatty 37 > > Fanny Beatty 37 > > David J Beatty 2 1/12 > > Catherine Login 70 > > James E Login 47 > > Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa; > > Roll: T625_484; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 927. > > Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 > > Name: Charles Beatty > > Census Date: 1 Jan 1925 > > Residence County: Clinton > > Residence State: Iowa > > Locality: Clinton > > Birth Location: Ireland > > Marital Status: Widowed > > Gender: Male > > Birth Year: abt 1842 > > Race: White > > Relation to Head: Father > > Mother: Bridget Lyuch > > Mother's Birthplace: Ireland > > Father: Patrick Beatty > > Father's Birthplace: Ireland > > Marriage Place: Ireland > > Line: 11 > > Roll: IA1925_1671 > > Neighbors: View others on page > > Household Members: Name Age > > Sylvester C Beatty 41 > > Fannie R Beatty 41 > > David J Beatty 7 > > Charles Beatty 83 > > James E Logue 50 > > Source Information: > > Ancestry.com. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 [database on-line]. > > Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: > > Microfilm of Iowa State Censuses, 1856, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, 1925 as > well > > various special censuses from 1836-1897 obtained from the State Historical > > > Society of Iowa via Heritage Quest. > > Also Footnote.com has some Naval records from the Civil War--I am out of > > twon right now but will check when I return. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which > > you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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Have you tried to get an obituary for Charles Beatty--perhaps he mentions siblings in his obituary. We have a large Beatty DNA project--if you knew of a living male descendant of Richard Beatty and could find a Beatty male desecndant of Charles Beatty you could determine if the 2 were related. There was a Charles Beaty of Clinton Co. Iowa was in the Civil War and he appears to have a Civil War pension: TWENTY-SIXTH REGIMENT IOWA VOLUNTEER INFANTRY Beaty, Charles. Age 18. Residence Clinton County, nativity Illinois. Enlisted Aug. 15, 1862. Mustered Sept. 15, 1862. Wounded Jan. 11, 1863, Arkansas Post, Ark. Discharged for disability May 13, 1864, Davenport, Iowa. I can take a look at this pension the next time I am at the National Archives--if this Charles Beatty is related to your Richard Beatty you may find a lot of usueful information in the pension. You might also check for a pension of your Richard Beatty--the Naval pensions are on microfiche and as I mentioned Footnote.com has some Naval records. I believe I abstracted all of these several years ago but I don't have my files with me right now. If the above is the Charles you are interested in it is possible that the family moved 1st to Illinois and then to Iowa. I don't see a lineage listed for a Clinton Co. Iowa Beatty. Laurel Baty, L252 -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Craig Borne" <cjborne@comcast.net> > Yes, I have the death certificate for Richard Edward Beatty. The > information is vague. His birthplace is listed as "on water from Ireland to > USA." There were dashes ( -- ) listed where his parents' names should have > been. I am clueless as where to go from here. > Craig > > Craig Borne > Baltimore, Maryland > cjborne@comcast.net > "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial > appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in > defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense > > -----Original Message----- > From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of laurelbaty@comcast.net > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:58 PM > To: bp2000@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BP2000] More About Richard Edward Beatty > > Have you tried getting a death certificate for Richard Beatty? Charles > Beatty appears to still be living in 1925 and he is enumerated in the 1925 > Iowa State Census--his parents names are given as Patrick Beatty and Bridget > Lynch. > 1880 United States Federal Census > Name: Charles Beaty > Home in 1880: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa > Age: 37 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 > Birthplace: Ireland > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > Spouse's Name: Maryan > Father's birthplace: Ireland > Mother's birthplace: Ireland > Neighbors: View others on page > Occupation: Farmer > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > Household Members: Name Age > Charles Beaty 37 > Maryan Beaty 35 > Clara Beaty 14 > Susan Beaty 12 > Angline Beaty 6 > Mary Beaty 4 > Martha Beaty 1 > Frank Cooty 9 > Jacob Dobson 21 > George Dobson 19 > Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: > T9_334; Family History Film: 1254334; Page: 78.4000; Enumeration District: > 286; Image: 0157. > 1900 United States Federal Census > Name: Sylvester Beatty > Home in 1900: Union, Jackson, Iowa > Age: 18 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 > Birthplace: Iowa > Relationship to head-of-house: Son > Parent's Name: Charls > Race: White > Occupation: View Image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Charls Beatty 57 > Clara Beatty 34 > Angie Beatty 25 > Martha Beatty 21 > Sylvester Beatty 18 > Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Union, Jackson, Iowa; Roll: T623 > 438; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 70. > 1920 United States Federal Census > Name: Sylvester C Beatty > Home in 1920: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa > Age: 37 years > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 > Birthplace: Iowa > Relation to Head of House: Head > Spouse's Name: Fanny > Father's Birth Place: Ireland > Mother's Birth Place: Iowa > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Sex: Male > Home owned: Own > Able to read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Image: 927 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Sylvester C Beatty 37 > Fanny Beatty 37 > David J Beatty 2 1/12 > Catherine Login 70 > James E Login 47 > Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa; > Roll: T625_484; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 927. > Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 > Name: Charles Beatty > Census Date: 1 Jan 1925 > Residence County: Clinton > Residence State: Iowa > Locality: Clinton > Birth Location: Ireland > Marital Status: Widowed > Gender: Male > Birth Year: abt 1842 > Race: White > Relation to Head: Father > Mother: Bridget Lyuch > Mother's Birthplace: Ireland > Father: Patrick Beatty > Father's Birthplace: Ireland > Marriage Place: Ireland > Line: 11 > Roll: IA1925_1671 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Sylvester C Beatty 41 > Fannie R Beatty 41 > David J Beatty 7 > Charles Beatty 83 > James E Logue 50 > Source Information: > Ancestry.com. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 [database on-line]. > Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: > Microfilm of Iowa State Censuses, 1856, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, 1925 as well > various special censuses from 1836-1897 obtained from the State Historical > Society of Iowa via Heritage Quest. > Also Footnote.com has some Naval records from the Civil War--I am out of > twon right now but will check when I return. > Laurel Baty, L252 > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which > you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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Hello list, My Beatty relatives arrived in the USA and settled in Clinton County, Iowa. The actual port of entry might have been in Chicago, Illinois, or somewhere very close. My Richard Edward Beatty was said to have been born on the ship in the Gulf of Mexico on the voyage from Ireland. Since he was a life long Roman Catholic, would it make sense that the family would have had the new baby baptized upon arriving at the ship's final destination? If this was Chicago, there might be some Archdiocesan records available. Which leads me to my question: does anyone have access to an index of Catholic records in the Chicago area for 1842? Thank you, Craig

Ray, Did we miss something?? no message was found in your email....Regards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > From: beatynyc@msn.com> To: jtortaro@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 08:35:10 -0400> CC: bp2000@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BP2000] What BP2000 lineage is this?> > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying.> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the 1925 state census of Iowa, you list: David J Beatty 7 In the household of Sylvester Beatty. In the 1930 census, he would be 12. Is there a later state census that may give us a hint as to who David J. Beatty might have married and might have lived? This appears to be our only hope for a male Beatty connected to the Iowa Beatty line. This David appears to have been born around 1918, so he may not have survived to today (he would be approximately 90 years old); however, if we can determine any male children on his part, we may be in business. Craig Craig Borne Baltimore, Maryland cjborne@comcast.net "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of laurelbaty@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:58 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] More About Richard Edward Beatty Have you tried getting a death certificate for Richard Beatty? Charles Beatty appears to still be living in 1925 and he is enumerated in the 1925 Iowa State Census--his parents names are given as Patrick Beatty and Bridget Lynch. 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Charles Beaty Home in 1880: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Birthplace: Ireland Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Maryan Father's birthplace: Ireland Mother's birthplace: Ireland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Charles Beaty 37 Maryan Beaty 35 Clara Beaty 14 Susan Beaty 12 Angline Beaty 6 Mary Beaty 4 Martha Beaty 1 Frank Cooty 9 Jacob Dobson 21 George Dobson 19 Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: T9_334; Family History Film: 1254334; Page: 78.4000; Enumeration District: 286; Image: 0157. 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Sylvester Beatty Home in 1900: Union, Jackson, Iowa Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Birthplace: Iowa Relationship to head-of-house: Son Parent's Name: Charls Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charls Beatty 57 Clara Beatty 34 Angie Beatty 25 Martha Beatty 21 Sylvester Beatty 18 Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Union, Jackson, Iowa; Roll: T623 438; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 70. 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Sylvester C Beatty Home in 1920: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa Age: 37 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Birthplace: Iowa Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Father's Birth Place: Ireland Mother's Birth Place: Iowa Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 927 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sylvester C Beatty 37 Fanny Beatty 37 David J Beatty 2 1/12 Catherine Login 70 James E Login 47 Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: T625_484; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 927. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 Name: Charles Beatty Census Date: 1 Jan 1925 Residence County: Clinton Residence State: Iowa Locality: Clinton Birth Location: Ireland Marital Status: Widowed Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1842 Race: White Relation to Head: Father Mother: Bridget Lyuch Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Father: Patrick Beatty Father's Birthplace: Ireland Marriage Place: Ireland Line: 11 Roll: IA1925_1671 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sylvester C Beatty 41 Fannie R Beatty 41 David J Beatty 7 Charles Beatty 83 James E Logue 50 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Microfilm of Iowa State Censuses, 1856, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, 1925 as well various special censuses from 1836-1897 obtained from the State Historical Society of Iowa via Heritage Quest. Also Footnote.com has some Naval records from the Civil War--I am out of twon right now but will check when I return. Laurel Baty, L252 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Laurel, Thank you very much for your insight. I do have Charles Beatty's full pension. It gives very good information on Charles, but not so much on his family. His parents were indeed Patrick Beatty and Bridget Lynch, and he lists his siblings as Thomas, Hugh, Richard, and I think Mary. I still hang on to the notion that Charles is related to my Richard due to the similarity of family names. Looking at Charles' brother's names, my Richard had a son named "Richard Thomas Beatty," and R.T. Beatty had children named "Charles Hugh" and "Richard Edward." I realize that this might be really common Irish names in the mid 19th Century, but from Richard's children to grandchildren, he had incorporated all of these names. On March 14, 1925, Charles claimed to be the last of 4 brothers to join the Army. He also claimed to arrive in New York from Ireland about October 1, 1858 and came to Lyons, Iowa, where "my mother and brothers preceeded me." "they were my mother's brothers here, - mine were scattered." The only surviving male child of Charles Beatty was Sylvester Charles Beatty. Is he listed in any of the lineages on BP2000? Finally, the only place I can find a Richard Beatty in a naval capacity in the Civil War was a Richard Beatty who joined the 1st Regiment NY Marine Artillery, which recruited in Chicago, Illinois. This Richard Beatty deserted in 1862 or 1863. Many in this unit left, and the unit was disbanded in 1863. Many of the marines joined revenue cutter units because the profitability was better. If Richard joined a naval outfit and ended up in New Orleans, the probability was that he would not have used his real name due to the prior desertion. The fact is that he claimed in his obit to be part of the navy in New Orleans, and he did indeed end up in New Orleans by around 1868 but possibly sooner. Any thoughts would be very helpful. I can find Beattys on my end for the DNA, but I am not sure where to start with respect to the Iowa Sylvester Beatty family. Craig Craig Borne Baltimore, Maryland cjborne@comcast.net "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of laurelbaty@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:39 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] More About Richard Edward Beatty Have you tried to get an obituary for Charles Beatty--perhaps he mentions siblings in his obituary. We have a large Beatty DNA project--if you knew of a living male descendant of Richard Beatty and could find a Beatty male desecndant of Charles Beatty you could determine if the 2 were related. There was a Charles Beaty of Clinton Co. Iowa was in the Civil War and he appears to have a Civil War pension: TWENTY-SIXTH REGIMENT IOWA VOLUNTEER INFANTRY Beaty, Charles. Age 18. Residence Clinton County, nativity Illinois. Enlisted Aug. 15, 1862. Mustered Sept. 15, 1862. Wounded Jan. 11, 1863, Arkansas Post, Ark. Discharged for disability May 13, 1864, Davenport, Iowa. I can take a look at this pension the next time I am at the National Archives--if this Charles Beatty is related to your Richard Beatty you may find a lot of usueful information in the pension. You might also check for a pension of your Richard Beatty--the Naval pensions are on microfiche and as I mentioned Footnote.com has some Naval records. I believe I abstracted all of these several years ago but I don't have my files with me right now. If the above is the Charles you are interested in it is possible that the family moved 1st to Illinois and then to Iowa. I don't see a lineage listed for a Clinton Co. Iowa Beatty. Laurel Baty, L252 -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Craig Borne" <cjborne@comcast.net> > Yes, I have the death certificate for Richard Edward Beatty. The > information is vague. His birthplace is listed as "on water from Ireland to > USA." There were dashes ( -- ) listed where his parents' names should have > been. I am clueless as where to go from here. > Craig > > Craig Borne > Baltimore, Maryland > cjborne@comcast.net > "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial > appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in > defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense > > -----Original Message----- > From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of laurelbaty@comcast.net > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:58 PM > To: bp2000@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BP2000] More About Richard Edward Beatty > > Have you tried getting a death certificate for Richard Beatty? Charles > Beatty appears to still be living in 1925 and he is enumerated in the 1925 > Iowa State Census--his parents names are given as Patrick Beatty and Bridget > Lynch. > 1880 United States Federal Census > Name: Charles Beaty > Home in 1880: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa > Age: 37 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 > Birthplace: Ireland > Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) > Spouse's Name: Maryan > Father's birthplace: Ireland > Mother's birthplace: Ireland > Neighbors: View others on page > Occupation: Farmer > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > Household Members: Name Age > Charles Beaty 37 > Maryan Beaty 35 > Clara Beaty 14 > Susan Beaty 12 > Angline Beaty 6 > Mary Beaty 4 > Martha Beaty 1 > Frank Cooty 9 > Jacob Dobson 21 > George Dobson 19 > Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: > T9_334; Family History Film: 1254334; Page: 78.4000; Enumeration District: > 286; Image: 0157. > 1900 United States Federal Census > Name: Sylvester Beatty > Home in 1900: Union, Jackson, Iowa > Age: 18 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 > Birthplace: Iowa > Relationship to head-of-house: Son > Parent's Name: Charls > Race: White > Occupation: View Image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Charls Beatty 57 > Clara Beatty 34 > Angie Beatty 25 > Martha Beatty 21 > Sylvester Beatty 18 > Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Union, Jackson, Iowa; Roll: T623 > 438; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 70. > 1920 United States Federal Census > Name: Sylvester C Beatty > Home in 1920: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa > Age: 37 years > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 > Birthplace: Iowa > Relation to Head of House: Head > Spouse's Name: Fanny > Father's Birth Place: Ireland > Mother's Birth Place: Iowa > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Sex: Male > Home owned: Own > Able to read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Image: 927 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Sylvester C Beatty 37 > Fanny Beatty 37 > David J Beatty 2 1/12 > Catherine Login 70 > James E Login 47 > Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa; > Roll: T625_484; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 927. > Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 > Name: Charles Beatty > Census Date: 1 Jan 1925 > Residence County: Clinton > Residence State: Iowa > Locality: Clinton > Birth Location: Ireland > Marital Status: Widowed > Gender: Male > Birth Year: abt 1842 > Race: White > Relation to Head: Father > Mother: Bridget Lyuch > Mother's Birthplace: Ireland > Father: Patrick Beatty > Father's Birthplace: Ireland > Marriage Place: Ireland > Line: 11 > Roll: IA1925_1671 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Sylvester C Beatty 41 > Fannie R Beatty 41 > David J Beatty 7 > Charles Beatty 83 > James E Logue 50 > Source Information: > Ancestry.com. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 [database on-line]. > Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: > Microfilm of Iowa State Censuses, 1856, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, 1925 as well > various special censuses from 1836-1897 obtained from the State Historical > Society of Iowa via Heritage Quest. > Also Footnote.com has some Naval records from the Civil War--I am out of > twon right now but will check when I return. > Laurel Baty, L252 > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which > you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to > change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject > to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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Craig, I am thoroughly confused. Earlier you posted a multi-generational lineage of Richard Edward Beatty with birth and death information of the family in Louisiana. You indicate that this Richard Edward Beatty was born on board ship in the Gulf of Mexico on the trip from Ireland. Presumbably, they landed at New Orleans. Elsewhere you have them moving to Iowa and to New York City. Then, you have them entering the country at Chicago. This appears to be a very mobile family for the early 1800s. Are you sure you are talking about the same family? Les Beaty, L-20

Yes, I have the death certificate for Richard Edward Beatty. The information is vague. His birthplace is listed as "on water from Ireland to USA." There were dashes ( -- ) listed where his parents' names should have been. I am clueless as where to go from here. Craig Craig Borne Baltimore, Maryland cjborne@comcast.net "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom." --Thomas Paine, Common Sense -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of laurelbaty@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:58 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] More About Richard Edward Beatty Have you tried getting a death certificate for Richard Beatty? Charles Beatty appears to still be living in 1925 and he is enumerated in the 1925 Iowa State Census--his parents names are given as Patrick Beatty and Bridget Lynch. 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Charles Beaty Home in 1880: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Birthplace: Ireland Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Maryan Father's birthplace: Ireland Mother's birthplace: Ireland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Charles Beaty 37 Maryan Beaty 35 Clara Beaty 14 Susan Beaty 12 Angline Beaty 6 Mary Beaty 4 Martha Beaty 1 Frank Cooty 9 Jacob Dobson 21 George Dobson 19 Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: T9_334; Family History Film: 1254334; Page: 78.4000; Enumeration District: 286; Image: 0157. 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Sylvester Beatty Home in 1900: Union, Jackson, Iowa Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Birthplace: Iowa Relationship to head-of-house: Son Parent's Name: Charls Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charls Beatty 57 Clara Beatty 34 Angie Beatty 25 Martha Beatty 21 Sylvester Beatty 18 Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Union, Jackson, Iowa; Roll: T623 438; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 70. 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Sylvester C Beatty Home in 1920: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa Age: 37 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Birthplace: Iowa Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Father's Birth Place: Ireland Mother's Birth Place: Iowa Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 927 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sylvester C Beatty 37 Fanny Beatty 37 David J Beatty 2 1/12 Catherine Login 70 James E Login 47 Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: T625_484; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 927. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 Name: Charles Beatty Census Date: 1 Jan 1925 Residence County: Clinton Residence State: Iowa Locality: Clinton Birth Location: Ireland Marital Status: Widowed Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1842 Race: White Relation to Head: Father Mother: Bridget Lyuch Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Father: Patrick Beatty Father's Birthplace: Ireland Marriage Place: Ireland Line: 11 Roll: IA1925_1671 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sylvester C Beatty 41 Fannie R Beatty 41 David J Beatty 7 Charles Beatty 83 James E Logue 50 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Microfilm of Iowa State Censuses, 1856, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, 1925 as well various special censuses from 1836-1897 obtained from the State Historical Society of Iowa via Heritage Quest. Also Footnote.com has some Naval records from the Civil War--I am out of twon right now but will check when I return. Laurel Baty, L252 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, This is the third time I am trying to send this to the list. My subsequent message giving additional information appeared on the list, but I still haven't seen this one. Craig Hello list, Below, I have pasted a copy of the genealogy report for my Beatty line.  This report begins with Richard Edward Beatty, but I believe that his parents might have been Patrick Beatty and Bridget Lynch, who may have moved from Ireland to Iowa to New York City, though I have no conclusive evidence of this connection.  I am having trouble searching the BP 2000 charts, so I could use some assistance seeing if this family is represented in the Beatty Geneaologies on the Beatty Project website. Craig Borne Baltimore, MD cjborne@comcast.net   Descendants of Richard Edward Beatty   Generation No. 1         1.  Richard Edward1 Beatty was born 03 March 1842 in On a ship in the Gulf of Mexico, and died 27 November 1923 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana.  He married (1) Mary.  She died Bef. 1867.  He married (2) Johanna Ward c. 1868 in New Orleans or Amite City, Louisiana.  She was born 16 May 1839 in Ireland, and died 01 December 1923 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana.  More About Richard Edward Beatty: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana  More About Johanna Ward: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana  More About Richard Beatty and Johanna Ward: Marriage: c. 1868, New Orleans or Amite City, Louisiana        Children of Richard Beatty and Johanna Ward are: +      2                 i.    Richard Thomas2 Beatty, born 14 November 1869 in Orleans Parish, Louisiana or Amite City, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana; died 17 April 1909 in Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana. +      3                ii.    Susanna Beatty, born 19 August 1872 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana; died 17 June 1949 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana.   Generation No. 2         2.  Richard Thomas2 Beatty (Richard Edward1) was born 14 November 1869 in Orleans Parish, Louisiana or Amite City, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, and died 17 April 1909 in Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana.  He married Martha Ann Denman Strickland 20 February 1895 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana (Source: Information from Anna P. Speed, October 11, 2000, www.genforum.com Message Board, Subject: Richard Edward Beatty.), daughter of John Strickland and Emma Powell.  She was born 1878 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, and died 21 February 1955 in Abita Springs, St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana.  More About Richard Thomas Beatty: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana Occupation: He was a farmer and operated a General Store in St. Helena Parish with his father.  More About Martha Ann Denman Strickland: Date born 2: c. 1877, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana Burial: Greenwood Cemetery, Metairie, Louisiana  More About Richard Beatty and Martha Strickland: Marriage: 20 February 1895, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana (Source: Information from Anna P. Speed, October 11, 2000, www.genforum.com Message Board, Subject: Richard Edward Beatty.)        Children of Richard Beatty and Martha Strickland are:         4                 i.    Charles Hugh3 Beatty.         5                ii.    Johanna Beatty, born in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana; died in Orleans Parish, Louisiana.  She married John Schmidt; died in Orleans Parish, Louisiana.         6               iii.    John Irvin Beatty. +      7               iv.    Richard Edward Beatty, Sr., born 20 February 1896; died 08 November 1957. +      8                v.    Emma Cordelia Beatty, born 20 June 1898 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana; died 1974 in Metairie, Jefferson Parish, Louisiana.          3.  Susanna2 Beatty (Richard Edward1) was born 19 August 1872 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, and died 17 June 1949 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana.  She married John Irvin Phillips 25 December 1890 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana.  He was born 20 February 1870 in Amite County, Mississippi, and died 19 December 1943 in Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana.  More About Susanna Beatty: Burial: Pine Ridge Cemetery, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana  More About John Irvin Phillips: Burial: Pine Ridge Cemetery, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana  More About John Phillips and Susanna Beatty: Marriage: 25 December 1890, Pine Ridge, St. Helena Parish, Louisiana        Child of Susanna Beatty and John Phillips is:         9                 i.    Richard Edward3 Phillips, born 23 September 1891; died 28 September 1949.  He married Stella Allen; born 16 June 1891.  More About Richard Edward Phillips: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana  More About Stella Allen: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana   Generation No. 3         7.  Richard Edward3 Beatty, Sr. (Richard Thomas2, Richard Edward1) was born 20 February 1896, and died 08 November 1957.  He married Jocie Phillips Bef. 1925.  She was born 27 September 1901.  More About Richard Edward Beatty, Sr.: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana  More About Jocie Phillips: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana  More About Richard Beatty and Jocie Phillips: Marriage: Bef. 1925        Child of Richard Beatty and Jocie Phillips is:         10               i.    Thomas William4 Beatty, born 15 February 1925; died 03 June 1970.  He married Elozie Hayden; born 02 September 1918.  More About Thomas William Beatty: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana  More About Elozie Hayden: Burial: Tangipahoa Cemetery, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana          8.  Emma Cordelia3 Beatty (Richard Thomas2, Richard Edward1) was born 20 June 1898 in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, and died 1974 in Metairie, Jefferson Parish, Louisiana.  She married Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Sr. January 1925, son of Henry McElveen and Mary Parker.  He was born 11 November 1897 in Kentwood, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, and died 18 March 1967 in Abita Springs, St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana.  More About Emma Cordelia Beatty: Burial: Mt. Hermon Cemetery, Mt. Hermon, Louisiana  More About Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Sr.: Burial: Mt. Hermon Cemetery, Mt. Hermon, Louisiana  More About Leahmon McElveen and Emma Beatty: Marriage: January 1925        Child of Emma Beatty and Leahmon McElveen is: +      11               i.    Leahmon Pearl4 McElveen, Jr., born 20 December 1925 in New Orleans, Louisiana.   Generation No. 4         11.  Leahmon Pearl4 McElveen, Jr. (Emma Cordelia3 Beatty, Richard Thomas2, Richard Edward1) was born 20 December 1925 in New Orleans, Louisiana.  He married Camille Jeannette Capponi 16 November 1943 in New Orleans, Louisiana, daughter of Emile Capponi and Jeanette Bulger.  She was born 06 April 1927 in New Orleans, Louisiana.  Notes for Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Jr.:                                                                                                                   More About Leahmon Pearl McElveen, Jr.: Military service: Bet. 1943 - 1945, United States Marine Corp-PFC Wounded at Iwo Jima in March of 1945.  Lost right leg below the knee.  More About Leahmon McElveen and Camille Capponi: Marriage: 16 November 1943, New Orleans, Louisiana        Children of Leahmon McElveen and Camille Capponi are: +      12               i.    Darryl Gayle5 McElveen, born 03 July 1946 in New Orleans, Louisiana. +      13              ii.    Donna Rene McElveen, born 24 January 1951 in New Orleans, Louisiana. +      14             iii.    Denise Annette McElveen, born 20 June 1954 in Decatur, Georgia.  

Have you tried getting a death certificate for Richard Beatty? Charles Beatty appears to still be living in 1925 and he is enumerated in the 1925 Iowa State Census--his parents names are given as Patrick Beatty and Bridget Lynch. 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Charles Beaty Home in 1880: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Birthplace: Ireland Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Maryan Father's birthplace: Ireland Mother's birthplace: Ireland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Charles Beaty 37 Maryan Beaty 35 Clara Beaty 14 Susan Beaty 12 Angline Beaty 6 Mary Beaty 4 Martha Beaty 1 Frank Cooty 9 Jacob Dobson 21 George Dobson 19 Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Elk River, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: T9_334; Family History Film: 1254334; Page: 78.4000; Enumeration District: 286; Image: 0157. 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Sylvester Beatty Home in 1900: Union, Jackson, Iowa Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Birthplace: Iowa Relationship to head-of-house: Son Parent's Name: Charls Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charls Beatty 57 Clara Beatty 34 Angie Beatty 25 Martha Beatty 21 Sylvester Beatty 18 Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Union, Jackson, Iowa; Roll: T623 438; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 70. 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Sylvester C Beatty Home in 1920: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa Age: 37 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Birthplace: Iowa Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Father's Birth Place: Ireland Mother's Birth Place: Iowa Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 927 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sylvester C Beatty 37 Fanny Beatty 37 David J Beatty 2 1/12 Catherine Login 70 James E Login 47 Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Clinton Ward 4, Clinton, Iowa; Roll: T625_484; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 927. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 Name: Charles Beatty Census Date: 1 Jan 1925 Residence County: Clinton Residence State: Iowa Locality: Clinton Birth Location: Ireland Marital Status: Widowed Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1842 Race: White Relation to Head: Father Mother: Bridget Lyuch Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Father: Patrick Beatty Father's Birthplace: Ireland Marriage Place: Ireland Line: 11 Roll: IA1925_1671 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sylvester C Beatty 41 Fannie R Beatty 41 David J Beatty 7 Charles Beatty 83 James E Logue 50 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Microfilm of Iowa State Censuses, 1856, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, 1925 as well various special censuses from 1836-1897 obtained from the State Historical Society of Iowa via Heritage Quest. Also Footnote.com has some Naval records from the Civil War--I am out of twon right now but will check when I return. Laurel Baty, L252

I have been corresponding with an individual about another family and I mentioned Beattie. They are connected with the Gawin-Irwin Beatty that is listed in the Egle manuscript on the BP2000 website. Gavin-Irwin Beatty, b. 13 Sep 1773 in Ireland; d. 14 Dec 1843 in PA What BP2000 lineage is this? Could not figure out how to find out without opening every lineage listed. If anyone is connected with this BP2000 lineage, I will attempt to put them in touch with these individuals.