All, I got the following message through our BeattyDNA.org website. Does anyone recognize this lineage? If we don't have his lineage already, I will tell him how to participate. Les Beaty L-20 --------------------------- I am interested in this project for obvious reasons and am curious as to information you may have regarding what I know about my family history. My Grandfather's name was Edward- he had 2 brothers that I know of- Joe and Wesley. They grew up and lived in and around Goshen, NY; Pine Bush, NY, and Gardiner, NY. My father's name is John and I have a brother Christopher. If you have compiled information pertinent to my family I would like to view what you have. If not, please let me know what you need to add our family to your project. -- Scott Beatty

Kim, I would be interested in any information you find on any of the lines in BP2000. Jack Beaty -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kim Shaw Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:06 PM To: BP2000@rootsweb.com Subject: [BP2000] will be searching a Massachusetts cemetery for Beatties in next three weeks In the next few weeks, I will be in the vicinity of the Elmwood Cemetery in Bradford, Massachusetts, where possible Beattie relatives of mine are buried. I didn't get a chance to go into the office last time I was there so I plan to do so this time to see what information they have. If anyone has any advice on the best way to get this information in person from the cemetery office, please advise me. I was just going to call ahead of time for the hours and see what is required to get that information. I looked at the headstones last time I was up there, but much of the information on the stones was worn off. There is a Beattie family plot there with a prominent headstone. There are also many people in that plot I have never encountered in my research. If anyone would be interested in the information I obtain, please let me know. I have no idea what I will find or how these Beatties are related to me. My dad knew about this plot and said it was his grandmother's family (she was a Beattie), and the plot was as he remembered seeing it from when he was young, so I'm sure they are connected somehow. Kim Shaw When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kim, I've gotten information from various cemeteries and never needed anything other than curiosity to get all the info they had on file. You shouldn't need to call ahead of time if the office is normally open (some cemeteries are "un-manned"), but they will probably take care of other people before you - that is if the other people are buying, or looking for a single grave. Good Luck, Joe Campbell Joe@JoeCampbell.org JoeCampbell1@Earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: Kim Shaw <kimshaw63@verizon.net> > To: <BP2000@rootsweb.com> > Date: 6/22/2008 1:06:25 PM > Subject: [BP2000] will be searching a Massachusetts cemetery for Beatties innext three weeks > > In the next few weeks, I will be in the vicinity of the Elmwood Cemetery in > Bradford, Massachusetts, where possible Beattie relatives of mine are > buried. I didn't get a chance to go into the office last time I was there > so I plan to do so this time to see what information they have. If anyone > has any advice on the best way to get this information in person from the > cemetery office, please advise me. I was just going to call ahead of time > for the hours and see what is required to get that information. I looked at > the headstones last time I was up there, but much of the information on the > stones was worn off. There is a Beattie family plot there with a prominent > headstone. There are also many people in that plot I have never encountered > in my research. If anyone would be interested in the information I obtain, > please let me know. I have no idea what I will find or how these Beatties > are related to me. My dad knew about this plot and said it was his > grandmother's family (she was a Beattie), and the plot was as he remembered > seeing it from when he was young, so I'm sure they are connected somehow. > > Kim Shaw > > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the next few weeks, I will be in the vicinity of the Elmwood Cemetery in Bradford, Massachusetts, where possible Beattie relatives of mine are buried. I didn't get a chance to go into the office last time I was there so I plan to do so this time to see what information they have. If anyone has any advice on the best way to get this information in person from the cemetery office, please advise me. I was just going to call ahead of time for the hours and see what is required to get that information. I looked at the headstones last time I was up there, but much of the information on the stones was worn off. There is a Beattie family plot there with a prominent headstone. There are also many people in that plot I have never encountered in my research. If anyone would be interested in the information I obtain, please let me know. I have no idea what I will find or how these Beatties are related to me. My dad knew about this plot and said it was his grandmother's family (she was a Beattie), and the plot was as he remembered seeing it from when he was young, so I'm sure they are connected somehow. Kim Shaw

Is anybody familiar with a Mrs Robert (Loretta) Baty. In 1963, she lived in Vandalia, OH. Her maiden name may have been Short? Julie Miller, L.39

There were several articles that came up about the shootout. Funny, I had never seen them before. I had always thought of my mother's Beaty relatives as more country folk, poor, honest and hard working as most of her family seemed to be. Now I am beginning to wonder. We have just found data which implies that our Robert E. Beaty spirited slaves from MS to Arkansas and then hired them taken into Texas, supposedly to avoid their being confiscated for his debts in MS. Laurel found some lawsuits in MS in which he and David Beaty were involved, mostly to do with land deals. Then a lawsuit came about in Red River, TX because he would not pay the man who took them to Red River Co., Texas. Apparently that man used them personally and/or put them out to hire to others for several years and REB was suppose to receive funds for that, some crops, etc. and then pay the man for their keep, transportation, etc. when he made it to Texas. It was finally settled shortly before or after his death. Now we wonder if he got shot as he appears to have died suddenly without a will or maybe all that lawsuit stress sent him to his grave. RaNelle L-405 & L-324 ----- Original Message ----- From: lbeaty@higherspeed.net<mailto:lbeaty@higherspeed.net> To: bp2000@rootsweb.com<mailto:bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] McDade, Bastrop County, Texas RaNelle, This is L-327. For several years I have been in contact with members of this lineage trying to obtain a yDNA sample. The lineage occurred in NC in the 1700s. I don't know how it is connected with other NC Beaty lineages and hope that DNA testing will shed some light on that subject. Regarding the participants of the Christmas Day 1883 shootout, one of the folks I have communicated with, and the one who has done the most research, is an 85 year old lady. I'm not sure she is still alive. Haven't had contact with her in a while. But, she distinctly remembered Nathan Heywood Beaty. She descended from one of his brothers (who wasn't involved for some reason). She was a young girl when their families visited and he would talk about the gunfight. She said that he was hit 17 times, and died in 1941 with five bullets still in his body. Sounds like the Border Reiver blood ran pretty thick in that lineage. Les Beaty, L-20 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BP2000-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

RaNelle, This is L-327. For several years I have been in contact with members of this lineage trying to obtain a yDNA sample. The lineage occurred in NC in the 1700s. I don't know how it is connected with other NC Beaty lineages and hope that DNA testing will shed some light on that subject. Regarding the participants of the Christmas Day 1883 shootout, one of the folks I have communicated with, and the one who has done the most research, is an 85 year old lady. I'm not sure she is still alive. Haven't had contact with her in a while. But, she distinctly remembered Nathan Heywood Beaty. She descended from one of his brothers (who wasn't involved for some reason). She was a young girl when their families visited and he would talk about the gunfight. She said that he was hit 17 times, and died in 1941 with five bullets still in his body. Sounds like the Border Reiver blood ran pretty thick in that lineage. Les Beaty, L-20

Not my line but interesting news of 1883. RaNelle L-405 & L-324 Austin Statesman December 26th 1883 Copied from the Statesman Newspaper, Austin Texas (special to the Statesman) The McDade Tragedy Full Particulars of the Affair on Christmas Day McDade, Dec. 26, 1883 - The examining trial of George Milton and Thomas Bishop, for the killing of Az Beatty and Jack Beatty, on yesterday is now progressing, the state being represented by the County Attorney and the defendants by Mjr. Sayers. The facts are as follows: Az Beatty, Jack Beatty, Hayward Beatty, Charlie Goodman, Burt Hasley and Robert Stevens came into McDade yesterday morning. Az and Jack Beatty went to Milton's store. Milton being engaged at his desk writing, and Bishop sitting in a chair in the gallery. Milton's desk is at the rear end of the store. Jack Beatty went up to Milton and began a conversation in reference to what had been rumored as to his brother's connection with the murder of Deputy Sheriff Heffington three weeks ago in McDade. It appears that Az Beatty, who was not on good terms with Bishop had made the attack upon Bishop and succeeded in forcing Bishop off the gallery, Bishop falling upon the ground and Beatty on top, and both grasping a pistol in the scuffle, Beatty on top and Bishop under, the pistol was fired, and Az Beaty fell backward. In the meantime, Jack Beatty hearing the report of the pistol, rushed to the front door with a knife in his hand. Melton following him, and just then Haywood Beatty fired upon Bishop, the latter returning the fire with effect. Just at this moment Wm. Griffin, a kinsman of Bishop, came running up to the assistance of Bishop when he, Griffin was dangerously wounded in the head and will probably die tonight. When Milton reached the front he began firing and Jack Beatty was killed. He said that is will be proven that Goodman, Hasley and Stevens were shooting at Milton and Bishop from a distance. In all there were from 60 to 100 shots fired. When the firing ceased it was found that Az Beatty and Jack Beatty were dead. Griffin mortally wounded, Stevens and Goodman slightly wounded. Hasley escaped, but is supposed to be wounded. The escape of Bishop from being killed may be considered almost a miracle. The Beatty's were brothers and Hasley and Stevens are connected with them by marriage. Public sympathy seems to be altogether with Bishop and Milton. Detachments from the Johnston Guard of Hempstead, and the Brenham rays of Brenham, came up this morning, but returned at once _____ as their services were not needed. County Attorney Maynard and Sheriff Jenkins are in the town. As soon as the County officers reached here the excitement seemed to abate and there is now no sign of excitement manifested.

Can anyone tell me anything about Harold Glen Beatty (maybe Beaty) who belongs to my line, 199. According to a very old cousin (now deceaed), Harold, who went by "Jack" died in prison. Altho he was really a great guy...fun to be around, etc...he liked to write hot checks and rob banks. My best guess is that his stompin' grounds were those states around and including W. Nebraska, yet no prison system in that area, including the federal, has any record that I can find. Any/all suggestions appreciated. Tom Beatty, 199

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> > Subject: John Beatey Tombstone > > Here's that picture of the tombstone for John Beatey at Steele Creek > Presbyterian Church. > > > >

Here are a few records for L330, found on http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ Note that Archibald Beattie was married twice and both times his age is given as 22 although the marriages were 20 year apart-this is because his age was really given as "of age" and not an actual year. Laurel Baty, L252 Marriage Record Date of Marriage: 28/07/1882 Parish / District: DUNGANNON County: TYRONE Husband Wife Name: Archibald Beattie Sarah Jane Sleith Address: Doolargy Tirelughan Denomination: Registration District Registration District Occupation: CARPENTER Age: 22 22 Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried) Husband's Father Wife's Father Name: Robert Beattie James Sleith Address: Denomination: Occupation: FARMER FARMER Husband's Mother Wife's Mother Name: Address: Denomination: Occupation: Witness 1 Witness 2 Name: James Hadden Margaret Ann Finlay Marriage Record Date of Marriage: 19/01/1904 Parish / District: DUNGANNON County: TYRONE Husband Wife Name: Archibald Beatty; Sarah Oliver Address: Terlugan; Terlugan Denomination: Registration District Registration District Occupation: FARMER Age: 22; 22 Status: Widower (Male) Widow (Female) Husband's Father Wife's Father Name: Robert Beatty Samuel Ferguson Address: Denomination: Occupation: FARMER FARMER Husband's Mother Wife's Mother Name: Address: Denomination: Occupation: Witness 1 Witness 2 Name: Thomas Knox William Martin Notes: FULL AGE OVER 21..AUGHNACLOY PARISH CHURCH C.O.I. Church Baptism Record Name: Margaret Beatty Date of Baptism / Birth: 16/06/1889 Address: Doolargy Co. Tyrone Parish / District: AGHALOO Gender: Female County TYRONE Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Archibald Beatty Mother: Sarah Jane Sleith Occupation: Farmer Sponsor 1 / Informant 1: Archibald Sponsor 2 / Informant 2: Marriage Record Date of Marriage: 30/03/1915 Parish / District: DUNGANNON County: TYRONE Husband Wife Name: William Robert Beatty Sarah Elizabeth Lockhart Address: Carnteel Aghnahoe Denomination: Registration District Registration District Occupation: FARMER Age: 22 20 Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried) Husband's Father Wife's Father Name: Archibald Beatty Robert Lockhart Address: Denomination: Occupation: FARMER FARMER Husband's Mother Wife's Mother Name: Address: Denomination: Occupation: Witness 1 Witness 2 Name: Maggie Somerville William Lockhart Notes: HUSBAND'S AGE GIVEN AS FULL OVER 21..WIFE'S AGE GIVEN AS MINOR UNDER 21..KILLEESHIL C.O.I.

I found the following obituary for Elizabeth Neill, sister of Robert Beatty of L516 in the New York Times, Sept. 24, 1916. I will send away for Elizabeth's death certificate and see if it names her parents. "Mrs. Elizabeth Neill, the oldest resident of Little Falls, N. J. died yesterday at her home there in her ninety sixth year. She was born in Ireland and came here eighty one years ago. Mrs. Neill was the youngest sister of Robert Beattie, founder of the Beattie carpet Manufacturing Company of Paterson. A son & daughter survive her." 1910 United States Federal Census Name: Eliza M McClinsey [Eliza M McClincey] Age in 1910: 87 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Birthplace: Ireland Relation to Head of House: Mother Father's Birth Place: Ireland Mother's Birth Place: Ireland Home in 1910: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Year of Immigration: 1840 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William G McClinsey 56 Eliza M McClinsey 87 John Jacobus 54 Mary E Jacobus 51 Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey; Roll: T624_904; Page: 22A; Enumeration District: 65; Image: 423. 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Eliza Naill Home in 1900: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey Age: 77 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Birthplace: Ireland Relationship to head-of-house: Head Race: White Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Naill 77 George McClinsey 47 Mary Jacobus 42 John Jacobus 45 Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey; Roll: T623 989; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 87. 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Eliza Neil Home in 1880: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Birthplace: Ireland Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Father's birthplace: Ireland Mother's birthplace: Ireland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Keeping House Marital Status: Widowed Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Eliza Neil 56 George Neil 27 Mary Neil 22 Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey; Roll: T9_794; Family History Film: 1254794; Page: 190.4000; Enumeration District: 138; Image: 0385. 1870 United States Federal Census Name: Eliza Neill Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Age in 1870: 48 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1870: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Female Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Passaic Household Members: Name Age William Neill 48 Eliza Neill 48 Wm G McCliney 18 Mary E McCliney 12 Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Little Falls, Passaic, New Jersey; Roll: M593_884; Page: 239; Image: 128. 1860 United States Federal Census Name: Elizabeth McCleney Age in 1860: 36 Birth Year: abt 1824 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1860: Acquacknonk, Passaic, New Jersey Gender: Female Post Office: Little Falls Value of real estate: View Image Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth McCleney 36 William McCleney 8 born NY Mary McCleney 2 born NY Thomas Clark 24 carpet weaver born Ireland James Evan 23 carpet weaver born Ireland Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Acquacknonk, Passaic, New Jersey; Roll: M653_706; Page: 1019; Image: 724. Laurel Baty, L252

I learned about the following webpage in the Irish Genealogy class that I recently attended. You can search the birth marriage and death indexes for free and view a transcription of the birth, marriage and death records for 5 Euros per record: http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ A statement from the webpage: "The Irish Family History Foundation is the co-ordinating body for a network of government approved genealogical research centres in the Republic of Ireland (Eire) and in Northern Ireland which have computerised almost 40 million Irish Ancestral records, primarily Church births (baptisms), marriages and deaths." Not all counties are on-line yet but many are. Here are a few examples from County Sligo and County Antrim: Civil Birth Record Name: Archibald Beatty Date of Baptism / Birth: 19/01/1753 Address: Parish / District: ST ANNE'S CIVIL, BELFAST Gender: Male County Co. Antrim Denomination: Church of Ireland Father: William Beatty Mother: Mary McBride Church Baptism Record Name: Michael Beaty Date of Baptism / Birth: 20/08/1805 Address: Parish / District: AGHANAGH Gender: Male County Co. Sligo Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Daniel Beaty Mother: Maria Mattimoe Sponsor 1 /Informant 1: Mathew Mattimoe Sponsor 2 / Informant 2: Honora Beaty Church Baptism Record Name: John Beatty Date of Baptism / Birth: 20/01/1814 Address: Parish / District: ST. JOHNS UNION Gender: Male County Co. Sligo Denomination: Church Of Ireland Father: James Mother: Catherine Kilchrist Church Baptism Record Name: John Beatty Date of Baptism / Birth: 20/10/1815 Address: Parish / District: ST. JOHNS UNION Gender: Male County Co. Sligo Denomination: Church Of Ireland Father: Thomas Mother: Margaret Jackson Church Baptism Record Name: John Beatty Date of Baptism / Birth: 24/09/1818 Address: Parish / District: ST. JOHNS UNION Gender: Male County Co. Sligo Denomination: Church Of Ireland Father: James Mother: Catherine Kilchrist Church Baptism Record Name: John Beatty Date of Baptism / Birth: 06/09/1830 Address: Parish / District: DRUMCLIFFE Gender: Unknown County Co. Sligo Denomination: Church Of Ireland Father: Alexander Mother: Sarah The web page shows 50 Beatty baptisms for County Sligo, 27 Beatty burial records and 25 Beatty marriages. Laurel Baty, L252

1. Jesse Battey.He married Nancy MNU Battey, They had the following children: 2 i. David Battey ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Reference Note 827Barrickman family info.extracted from a file Descendants of Nancy Southwick Battey by David Gies, P.O.Box 1523, Provincetown, MA, 02657; Sources quoted are from this file..nlp Sources Encyclopedia of American Quarker Genealogy: Nancy Batty ~~~~~~~~~~~ Second Generation 2. David Battey. Son of Jesse Battey & Nancy Battey, Maiden Name Unk.. Born 3 Mar 1790 in Burrillville, Providence, RI. Education Book of records of Birth and death for Hamburg, NY,. Research MM Quaker,FHL0017257 item1pg6 LDS/FHC. He married Hannah Southwick, daughter of Enoch Southwick & Mary Southwick, maiden name un. Born 29 Aug 1789 in Berlin Worchester Co., MA. Died 19 Aug 1839 in Huntsville Madison Co., IN. Listed in 1820/1830 census for NY. Research one record says 9 children.They had the following children:3 i. David Sands Battey4 ii. Nancy Southwick Battey5 iii. Marmaduke Stephensen Battey6 iv. Anna Battey7 v. Jesse S. Battey8 vi. Richard M. Battey Third Generation 3. David Sands Battey. Son of David Battey & Hannah Southwick. Born 12 Jul 1816 in Colden, Erie, NY. 4. Nancy Southwick Battey. Daughter of David Battey & Hannah Southwick. Born 4 Apr 1818 in Colden, Erie Co., NY. Died 30 Jun 1850 in Lagro Twp., Wabash Co., IN. She married John (Jr.) Barrickman, son of John (Sr.) Barrickman & Sarah Beatty, 13 Oct 1841 in Wabash or Allen Co., IN. Born 5 Jun 1818 in Armstrong Co., PA. Died 31 Mar 1845 in Lagro Twp, Wabash Co., IN. They had the following children:9 i. Robert Emmett Barrickman 5. Marmaduke Stephensen Battey. Son of David Battey & Hannah Southwick. Born 16 Sep 1820 in Hamburg, Erie, NY. Died 20 Nov 1849 in Largo, IN. He married Selinda Twining, daughter of Thomas Twining & Sarah Kester, 23 Feb 1845. Born 23 Feb 1828 in Boston, Erie Co., NY.They had the following children:10 i. Sarah Melissa Battey11 ii. Estella Viola Battey 6. Anna Battey. Daughter of David Battey & Hannah Southwick. Born 20 Dec 1822 in died young. 7. Jesse S. Battey. Son of David Battey & Hannah Southwick. Born 6 May 1825 in died young. 8. Richard M. Battey. Son of David Battey & Hannah Southwick. Born 18 Jan 1830 in Hamburg, Erie, NY. Fourth Generation 9. Robert Emmett Barrickman. Son of John (Jr.) Barrickman & Nancy Southwick Battey. Born 14 Nov 1843 in IN. Died 22 Nov 1921 in Corvallis, OR. Education David Gibs/ for additional data. He married Martha Jane Hammer, daughter of John Hammer & Jane C. Teas, 25 Nov 1866 in Polk Co., IA. Born 15 Mar 1846 in IL. Died 26 Oct 1898 in Merlin, Josephine Co., OR. Data from David Gibs/ dgibs@capecod.net They had the following children:12 i. Lolly Barrickman13 ii. Etta Barrickman14 iii. Mary Barrickman15 iv. Eda Barrickman 10. Sarah Melissa Battey. Daughter of Marmaduke Stephensen Battey & Selinda Twining. Born 25 Oct 1847 in Boston, Erie Co., NY. 11. Estella Viola Battey. Daughter of Marmaduke Stephensen Battey & Selinda Twining. Born 18 Dec 1849 in Boston, Erie Co., NY. Fifth Generation 12. Lolly Barrickman. Daughter of Robert Emmett Barrickman & Martha Jane Hammer. 13. Etta Barrickman. Daughter of Robert Emmett Barrickman & Martha Jane Hammer. 14. Mary Barrickman. Daughter of Robert Emmett Barrickman & Martha Jane Hammer. 15. Eda Barrickman. Daughter of Robert Emmett Barrickman & Martha Jane Hammer. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NeldaRegards: Nelda Percival http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/

That makes sense. Thanks, Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "STEPHEN BEATY" <scbeaty@bellsouth.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was I FEEL SURE YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THIS...IT WOULD MEEN THAT THEY "PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE", TO THE LORD, OR KING, THAT RULED OVER THEM....S. BEATY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Probably so. Thanks, Laurel. Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Hi Gerri, I am not sure, "plegeis" is old English and perhaps means pledges? Does anyone else have any ideas? Laurel Baty, L252 -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gerri Goodwin Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:30 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Laurel, What does "plegeis" mean? Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com>; <GenMatch@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: [BP2000] Langholm As It was I received my copy of "Langholm As It Was" by Hyslop & Booth, 2002 reprint edition -I ordered this from Waterstones in England for about £32 including shipping. There are many references to Beatties in this book. Here is an excerpt from page 175: "On the break up of the Beattison clan in 1599 many of its name migrated into Kirkcudbright, while others went to different parts of Scotland and England. With these migrations there came modifications of the name Beattison. In Eskdale it changed to Beattie, in other places to Bateson, Baty and other forms. Early in the 20th century there were still residing in Eskdale several descendants of the Beattisons of Dalbeth. One was Thomas Beattie, Esq., laird of Davington. The lordship of Davington was in the possession of the Scotts of the Howplasset branch. About the year 1784, through some dispute about the succession of the Davington estate, it was sold by order of the Court of Session and was purchased by James Beattie, son of John Beattie of Dalbeth, of whom the above Thomas Beattie is a lineal descendant. One of a list of "plegeis" of 28th October, 1578, is "Johnne Batie of Daventoun, in the custody and keeping of David Boiswall of Balmutto." So that this purchase of 1784 brought about a return of the Beatties to Davington after a lapse of 200 years." 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I FEEL SURE YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THIS...IT WOULD MEEN THAT THEY "PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE", TO THE LORD, OR KING, THAT RULED OVER THEM....S. BEATY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Probably so. Thanks, Laurel. Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Hi Gerri, I am not sure, "plegeis" is old English and perhaps means pledges? Does anyone else have any ideas? Laurel Baty, L252 -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gerri Goodwin Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:30 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Laurel, What does "plegeis" mean? Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com>; <GenMatch@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: [BP2000] Langholm As It was I received my copy of "Langholm As It Was" by Hyslop & Booth, 2002 reprint edition -I ordered this from Waterstones in England for about £32 including shipping. There are many references to Beatties in this book. Here is an excerpt from page 175: "On the break up of the Beattison clan in 1599 many of its name migrated into Kirkcudbright, while others went to different parts of Scotland and England. With these migrations there came modifications of the name Beattison. In Eskdale it changed to Beattie, in other places to Bateson, Baty and other forms. Early in the 20th century there were still residing in Eskdale several descendants of the Beattisons of Dalbeth. One was Thomas Beattie, Esq., laird of Davington. The lordship of Davington was in the possession of the Scotts of the Howplasset branch. About the year 1784, through some dispute about the succession of the Davington estate, it was sold by order of the Court of Session and was purchased by James Beattie, son of John Beattie of Dalbeth, of whom the above Thomas Beattie is a lineal descendant. One of a list of "plegeis" of 28th October, 1578, is "Johnne Batie of Daventoun, in the custody and keeping of David Boiswall of Balmutto." So that this purchase of 1784 brought about a return of the Beatties to Davington after a lapse of 200 years." Laurel Baty, L252 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am back from a one week course at Samford University: "Irish Genealogical Research" taught by David Rencher and David Ouimette. This was a great course with lots of great tips on Irish Genealogy-- another similar course (concentrating on identifying the place of origin for your Irish ancestor) will be taught in Salt Lake City, 6 - 10 October through the British Institute http://www.isbgfh.org/institute.htm The British Institute is a wonderful program with classes in the morning followed by library work at the Family History Library and consultation with the instructors in the afternoon. During the course we were informed that Familysearch.org had completed the Index to all of the Irish Civil Registration of Births, deaths and marriages indexes-over 23 million records spanning the years 1845 (marriage only) to 1958. The index is set to be released shortly (an exact date of release was not given)-apparently the index will first appear on the beta version of the webpage: http://labs.familysearch.org <http://labs.familysearch.org/> I checked and it is not there as of June 7, 2008. Laurel Baty, L252

Probably so. Thanks, Laurel. Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Hi Gerri, I am not sure, "plegeis" is old English and perhaps means pledges? Does anyone else have any ideas? Laurel Baty, L252 -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gerri Goodwin Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:30 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Laurel, What does "plegeis" mean? Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com>; <GenMatch@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: [BP2000] Langholm As It was I received my copy of "Langholm As It Was" by Hyslop & Booth, 2002 reprint edition -I ordered this from Waterstones in England for about £32 including shipping. There are many references to Beatties in this book. Here is an excerpt from page 175: "On the break up of the Beattison clan in 1599 many of its name migrated into Kirkcudbright, while others went to different parts of Scotland and England. With these migrations there came modifications of the name Beattison. In Eskdale it changed to Beattie, in other places to Bateson, Baty and other forms. Early in the 20th century there were still residing in Eskdale several descendants of the Beattisons of Dalbeth. One was Thomas Beattie, Esq., laird of Davington. The lordship of Davington was in the possession of the Scotts of the Howplasset branch. About the year 1784, through some dispute about the succession of the Davington estate, it was sold by order of the Court of Session and was purchased by James Beattie, son of John Beattie of Dalbeth, of whom the above Thomas Beattie is a lineal descendant. One of a list of "plegeis" of 28th October, 1578, is "Johnne Batie of Daventoun, in the custody and keeping of David Boiswall of Balmutto." So that this purchase of 1784 brought about a return of the Beatties to Davington after a lapse of 200 years." Laurel Baty, L252 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gerri, I am not sure, "plegeis" is old English and perhaps means pledges? Does anyone else have any ideas? Laurel Baty, L252 -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gerri Goodwin Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:30 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Langholm As It was Laurel, What does "plegeis" mean? Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com>; <GenMatch@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: [BP2000] Langholm As It was I received my copy of "Langholm As It Was" by Hyslop & Booth, 2002 reprint edition -I ordered this from Waterstones in England for about £32 including shipping. There are many references to Beatties in this book. Here is an excerpt from page 175: "On the break up of the Beattison clan in 1599 many of its name migrated into Kirkcudbright, while others went to different parts of Scotland and England. With these migrations there came modifications of the name Beattison. In Eskdale it changed to Beattie, in other places to Bateson, Baty and other forms. Early in the 20th century there were still residing in Eskdale several descendants of the Beattisons of Dalbeth. One was Thomas Beattie, Esq., laird of Davington. The lordship of Davington was in the possession of the Scotts of the Howplasset branch. About the year 1784, through some dispute about the succession of the Davington estate, it was sold by order of the Court of Session and was purchased by James Beattie, son of John Beattie of Dalbeth, of whom the above Thomas Beattie is a lineal descendant. One of a list of "plegeis" of 28th October, 1578, is "Johnne Batie of Daventoun, in the custody and keeping of David Boiswall of Balmutto." So that this purchase of 1784 brought about a return of the Beatties to Davington after a lapse of 200 years." Laurel Baty, L252 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message