Donna, I was looking through some old e-mails and wanted to respond this message. I sent your e-mails on this family that appear to be close to Peter and me to Suzanne Silek, a member of this line that lives in Front Royal. Below is her response in case I did not send it to you before. Thank you for posting it because I am keeping that line as up to date as possible. Armond Beaty L-32 Armond, "John Owen(s) Beaty is a child of John A(dams) Beaty by his second wife. The second wife was Lavinna Owens Edmonds, a widow. William Beaty, a son of John A(dams) Beaty married his step sister, a daughter of Lavinna Edmonds by her first husband. Then cousins married cousins and the line became very confused. Dr. Beaty's sons are, I think, the only Beaty males in John Owens' line. Will double check that. Tons of descendants but not males with the name of Beaty. And Virginia married a Poe and one of their sons married a Beaty female. Ann, another daughter of John Owen and Rebecca married the Lawson and the line is the one at the winery". Hope that your wife's surgery goes as planned. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Armond Beaty" <acbeaty@1starnet.com> To: "Suzanne Silek" <royalquality@embarqmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2010 10:20:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netwtc.net> To: "BP2000" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:56 AM Subject: [BP2000] L-34 I was catching up on some filing and didn't know where to file this. I am pretty confident now it is L-34. The James Robert mentioned (AKA Jim Bob) is the James R., son of Jno O. and Rebecca Pomeroy Beaty. Ann Susan Beaty Lawson is mentioned in a newpaper article and brother Horace Wellington Beaty. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (posted 2007) >From the Handbook of Texas Online: Not my line: RaNelle Parker L-405 BEATY, JOHN OWEN (1890-1961). John Owen Beaty, teacher and author, was born to James Robert and Eula (Simms) Beaty at Crow, West Virginia, on December
Hi I thought I would post a summary of the Beattys from the Irish Passenger Lists to the list. Perhaps many of you have it already. The *Area* is based on map coordinates but I don't have the map. The second Beatty family (James and Rhoda) from Newtownstewart is mine (L92). I am not sure who the first family is but I think are related, probably a brother. If you would like the Excel spread sheet let me know, off list. BobM Surname Given Age Address Area Year Destination Exit Port Ship Company Beatty James (John) Newtownstewart g3 1847 Quebec City Londonderry Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Elizabeth Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty George 9 Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Eliza 6 Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Alexander Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty William 6 mon Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty James Newtownstewart g3 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Rhoda Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Anne Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Willam Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Mary Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty George 13 Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty Jane 11 Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty James 9 Newtownstewart 1847 Quebec City Helen Thompson J&J Cooke Beatty John Ederney g3 1847 Quebec City Leander J&J Cooke Beatty John Enniskillen g4 1847 St John Envoy J&J Cooke Beatty Archy Enniskillen 1847 St John Envoy J&J Cooke Beatty Thomas Beragh h3 1847 Quebec City Superior J&J Cooke Beatty Margaret 12 Beragh 1847 Quebec City Superior J&J Cooke Beatty George 10 Beragh 1847 Quebec City Superior J&J Cooke Beatty Mary 6 Beragh 1847 Quebec City Superior J&J Cooke Beattie William Newtownstewart g3 1848 Philadelphia Mary Campbell J&J Cooke Beattie Rebecca Newtownstewart 1848 Philadelphia Mary Campbell J&J Cooke Beatty Thomas H Fahan g2 1848 Philadephia Hannah Kerr J&J Cooke Beatty Margart Fahan 1848 Philadelphia Hannah Kerr J&J Cooke Beatty Willam Ederney g3 1850 Quebec City Londonderry J&J Cooke Beatty Margaret Enniskillen g4 1850 Quebec City Londonderry J&J Cooke Beatty Con Ederney g3 1851 Quebec City Anna J&J Cooke Beatty Jane Ederney 1851 Quebec City Anna J&J Cooke Beatty Jane Ederney 1851 Quebec City Anna J&J Cooke Beatty Isabella Ederney 1851 Quebec City Anna J&J Cooke Beatty Isabella Ederney g3 1851 Quebec City Anna J&J Cooke Beatty Margaret Ederney 1851 Quebec City Anna J&J Cooke Beatty Robert Cross Roads g3 1851 Philadelpia Competitor J&J Cooke Beatty Jane Newtonstewart g3 1852 Philadelphia Superior J&J Cooke Beatty Rachael Omagh g3 1852 Quebec City Envoy J&J Cooke Beatty Rachel Omagh g3 1852 Quebec City Envoy J&J Cooke Beatty Rawlin Kesh g3 1852 Quebec City Lord Lambton J&J Cooke Beatty Anne Kesh 1852 Quebec City Lord Lambton J&J Cooke Beatty Elizabeth 10 Kesh 1852 Quebec City Lord Lambton J&J Cooke Beatty Mary 20 Beragh h3 1853 Philadelphia Envoy J&J Cooke Beatty Eliza 6 mons Beragh 1853 Philadelphia Envoy J&J Cooke Beatty Ellen 20 Omagh 1855 Quebec City Superior J&J Cooke Beatty Fanny 22 Ballyshannon f3 1855 St John Mary Ann J&J Cooke Beatty Ann 23 Tempo g4 1856 Philadelphia Superior J&J Cooke Beatty Florenda 50 Ballyshannon f3 1859 St John Elizabeth J&J Cooke Beattie Thomas 18 Ballyshannon f3 1862 St John Elizabeth J&J Cooke Beatty Mary Ann 19 Dungannon 1864 Philadelphia Nubia J&J Cooke Beatty Rachel 17 Dungannon 1864 Philadelphia J&J Cooke Beatty Anne Temo, County Fermanagh g4 April 1869 Philadelphia Minnehaha McCorkell Beatty Martha Berrick Letterkenny g2 April 1870 Philadelphia Minnehaha McCorkell Beatty Mary Tempo Fermanagh April 1870 Philadelphia Minnehaha McCorkell Beatty Eliza Carnagillock,Tempo g4 March 1864 Philadelphia Stadacona McCorkell
Hi, About a week ago rootswebAncestry.com preformed maintenance on the system, since then perodically each mailing list has started bouncing AOL members from the lists. There is no action that we the list admins can preform to fix this problem. You have two options open to you; one get a secondary email account at one of the free email accounts.. hotmail, Yahoo, gmail...?? and resubscribe, two wait and hope the staff of ancestry.com can fix the problem and resubscribe after the problem is fixed. In the mean time you can read the archuives to keep up with the messages. Nelda Percival Mailing list administrator
Hi, First, last week RW did maintence on the system, since then sporidic lists were having their AOL members bounce off the mailing lists. As of last night only Les had been effected and he was only getting bounce notices on some of his emails. This AM I found 110 bounce messages in my email account. I am collecting the addys and will send private messages to all from my earthlink address, but if you have a Beatty friend who has an AOL address send them a message that we are working on it.. I had hoped our mailing list server would be lucky enough to be bypassed.... NOT! Oh, well back to work... Nelda ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o Nelda L. Percival SSGT, E6, US ARMY ret. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o
Mike, I would like to get the lineage summary for L-24 updated and revised. It is erroneous as it currently exists on the BP-2000 site, but Les has it correct on the DNA site. I have just completed and published a new book, "James Beaty and Ann Bennett of Ballycanew, County Wexford, Ireland, and More Than Two Centuries of Their American Descendants," 2 vols., 1415 pages. I don't have the data in GEDCOM format. I wrote the book using Word, and I have a short lineage summary I have compiled that I can give you in Word or in PDF format for the Lineage summary. Will this work? I may at some time in the future agree to post volume one of my book online. There are a large number of high-resolution TIFF photographs in it, but it could theoretically be posted in PDF format. Volume 2 has data on many living people so I am more hesitant to put it up online right now. Please let me know how I can update the Lineage summary with something other than GEDCOM. Many thanks. John Beatty L-24 >>> "mallen" 11/14/10 6:20 PM >>> Nelda and all... If someone will compose the list, I will add it to our website. It would be great to have it both ways -- a simple list of tested lines, plus a note or icon on each tested line in the linage summaries pages. This second option would be a bit time consuming. I may have more "free" time this winter to work on a project I planed a couple years ago to automate the lineage summaries -- in a searchable database -- that would make it easier to maintain and to add things like this in the future. ...Mike Allen -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nelda Percival Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 1:00 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Joe, In my opinion the actual Y-DNA data should stay at the DNA website under the control of Les. Those charts are quite intensive and need his expertise. My thoughts were just to list the lineages, so you could know at a glance if a line had tested. A quick reference. Nelda Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys ********************* Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ ********************* Mailing List's Archives at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John, Yes, send me your summary in Word format. Thanks, ...Mike -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Beatty Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:39 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Mike, I would like to get the lineage summary for L-24 updated and revised. It is erroneous as it currently exists on the BP-2000 site, but Les has it correct on the DNA site. I have just completed and published a new book, "James Beaty and Ann Bennett of Ballycanew, County Wexford, Ireland, and More Than Two Centuries of Their American Descendants," 2 vols., 1415 pages. I don't have the data in GEDCOM format. I wrote the book using Word, and I have a short lineage summary I have compiled that I can give you in Word or in PDF format for the Lineage summary. Will this work? I may at some time in the future agree to post volume one of my book online. There are a large number of high-resolution TIFF photographs in it, but it could theoretically be posted in PDF format. Volume 2 has data on many living people so I am more hesitant to put it up online right now. Please let me know how I can update the Lineage summary with something other than GEDCOM. Many thanks. John Beatty L-24 >>> "mallen" 11/14/10 6:20 PM >>> Nelda and all... If someone will compose the list, I will add it to our website. It would be great to have it both ways -- a simple list of tested lines, plus a note or icon on each tested line in the linage summaries pages. This second option would be a bit time consuming. I may have more "free" time this winter to work on a project I planed a couple years ago to automate the lineage summaries -- in a searchable database -- that would make it easier to maintain and to add things like this in the future. ...Mike Allen -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nelda Percival Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 1:00 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Joe, In my opinion the actual Y-DNA data should stay at the DNA website under the control of Les. Those charts are quite intensive and need his expertise. My thoughts were just to list the lineages, so you could know at a glance if a line had tested. A quick reference. Nelda Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys ********************* Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ ********************* Mailing List's Archives at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys ********************* Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ ********************* Mailing List's Archives at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
found it... sorry! should have looked before I asked n. ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o Nelda L. Percival SSGT, E6, US ARMY ret. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o
Les, Under what topic at http://www.beattydna.org/ is the list of lineages who have tested? I never have been good at digging... sorry! ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o Nelda L. Percival SSGT, E6, US ARMY ret. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o
Michal, <<perhaps I can copy my pedigree and send it to you to show you how they did the pedigrees.>> Yes, that would help. You can send to my private email if you wish - lbeaty@q.com Les
"I would be interested in the URL to the website you mentioned." Huh? I was simply responding to Nelda's proposal to create a page on the BP200 website with a list of BP200 lines that had DNA test results. What URL are you referring to? ...Mike Allen -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Les Beaty Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 8:06 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Michal, I assume you have looked at the Test Results tables at http://www.beattydna.org/ We are always on the lookout for better ways to display the data in our database. I would be interested in the URL to the website you mentioned. Les Beaty
Thanks Les, Mike, I'll do the chart. Now I have to Figure out how to collect the data needed... LOL Lord I get myself into messes...LOL nelda
Mike, (Too many Mikes.) :) I was responding to a message from Michal McKee [herodotus@castleofotranto.com] to Nelda. He mentioned another DNA website which apparently presented their data differently. I simply wanted to know where that site was. Les
Lol, Les, too many Mikes indeed. Although I'm female and go by my full name if that helps. At any rate, I'd be glad to send you the URL but the list is closed, invitation only. Sorry. However, perhaps I can copy my pedigree and send it to you to show you how they did the pedigrees. They can't complain because I submitted both that pedigree and the Y-DNA test (from my uncle). Michal -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Les Beaty Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:06 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Michal, I assume you have looked at the Test Results tables at http://www.beattydna.org/ We are always on the lookout for better ways to display the data in our database. I would be interested in the URL to the website you mentioned. Les Beaty Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys ********************* Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ ********************* Mailing List's Archives at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
(For some reason, a few of my messages to BP2000 are bouncing back to me; not all, just a few. Don't know why. Am resending this one which did bounce. - Les) Joe, By "actual DNA info is listed by each tested lineage," I presume you mean the test results of each participant in each lineage. As you probably know, the set of test results for an individual, called a haplotype, is meaningless by itself. It's just a bunch of numbers, ie., 9,15,28,14,11,19,15, etc. It is only when that haplotype is compared with other haplotypes that meaningful information emerges (relationships, common ancestors, etc.). It is those comparisons which comprise Table II of our Test Results on www.BeattyDNA.org Of course, the raw test results ARE included in Table I. But again, by themselves, they are meaningless. Les Beaty, L-20
Michal, I assume you have looked at the Test Results tables at http://www.beattydna.org/ We are always on the lookout for better ways to display the data in our database. I would be interested in the URL to the website you mentioned. Les Beaty
Nelda, <<Just as some people use mailing lists and others use message boards I believe haveing the fact they were tested at the BP2000 website might help produce interest in testing.>> Sounds reasonable to me. Feel free to use the data in our BP2000 Lineages Tested Chart to build your chart. Les
Nelda and all... If someone will compose the list, I will add it to our website. It would be great to have it both ways -- a simple list of tested lines, plus a note or icon on each tested line in the linage summaries pages. This second option would be a bit time consuming. I may have more "free" time this winter to work on a project I planed a couple years ago to automate the lineage summaries -- in a searchable database -- that would make it easier to maintain and to add things like this in the future. ...Mike Allen -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nelda Percival Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 1:00 PM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Joe, In my opinion the actual Y-DNA data should stay at the DNA website under the control of Les. Those charts are quite intensive and need his expertise. My thoughts were just to list the lineages, so you could know at a glance if a line had tested. A quick reference. Nelda
Hi Nelda, Although it would be some work to set up, the information would probably be most helpful if there is an "index page" listing the tested lineages and the actual DNA info is listed by each tested lineage. Thanks, Joe Campbell Thank You -----Original Message----- From: Nelda Percival <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> Sender: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:28:47 To: <bp2000@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Les, Ray and Mike and all others, I was wondering your opinions On: listing which BP2000 lineages had Y-DNA tested. On the BP2000 website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/lineages.htm primarily at each individual lineage. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/summaries1.htm Say something like: LINEAGE 1. Y-DNA tested R1b1b2c Or just a list on a new page with a link to the DNA project: 1. Lineage 1 tested 2. Lineage 2 not tested 3. Lineage 2a tested Then the person enquiring could go to the Y-DNA webpage and enquire about the lineage... It would be some work, but it would be helpful for some of us. Nelda ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o Nelda L. Percival SSGT, E6, US ARMY ret. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys ********************* Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ ********************* Mailing List's Archives at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Nelda, I belong to another surname group that has done extensive Y-DNA testing on the various lines. That group lists a pedigree (as known) and the basic Y-DNA information under each lineage. It's been very useful in matching up lines. Mine blended into another not long after we started doing Y-DNA testing - which was quite marvelous because it hopscotched me past a long time brick wall. So despite the effort involved, I think having the Y-DNA at least linked in some manner to the pedigrees would be nifty. And I'd personally vote for option one -Lineage 1, tested xxxxxx. That's what the other site does and it works well. There are pages with the more compicated charts but the basic haplogroup and etc is quite enough for the main page and still allows people to look up the info easily. Just my two cents. Michal (and don't I wish we had a male relative in our Beatty lineage to test, sigh) -----Original Message----- From: bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bp2000-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nelda Percival Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 8:29 AM To: bp2000@rootsweb.com Subject: [BP2000] Genealogy website and Y-DNA Les, Ray and Mike and all others, I was wondering your opinions On: listing which BP2000 lineages had Y-DNA tested. On the BP2000 website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/lineages.htm primarily at each individual lineage. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/summaries1.htm Say something like: LINEAGE 1. Y-DNA tested R1b1b2c Or just a list on a new page with a link to the DNA project: 1. Lineage 1 tested 2. Lineage 2 not tested 3. Lineage 2a tested Then the person enquiring could go to the Y-DNA webpage and enquire about the lineage... It would be some work, but it would be helpful for some of us. Nelda ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o Nelda L. Percival SSGT, E6, US ARMY ret. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ~o~o~o~o~o0o0o0o0o0o~o~o~o~o Remember - To remove un-needed email text from your replys ********************* Visit Project website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bp2000/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit Beatty Y-DNA Project at: http://www.beattydna.org/ ********************* Mailing List's Archives at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/b/bp2000.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BP2000-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Joe, In my opinion the actual Y-DNA data should stay at the DNA website under the control of Les. Those charts are quite intensive and need his expertise. My thoughts were just to list the lineages, so you could know at a glance if a line had tested. A quick reference. Nelda