Laurel, if any of them mention a Robert Beaty (b. 1789) would like to see that one. He was born possibly in TN, Ireland or VA, according to three different children and his father could have been the right age for Rev War. RaNelle Parker L-405 and L-324

I copied the final pension payment files for the following Revolutionary War Pensioners: James Beaty, Rutherford County TN Andrew Beaty, Fentress (the best record by far naming all of his children, with their signatures--L2 has such wonderful records) Walter Beatty, Hawkins Co TN William Beaty, Scott Co KY David Beaty, Iredell Co NC I will scan these and send email copies to anyone who is interested. Also anyone else who would like me to try and obtain a final pension payment for a Beaty soldier--just let me know. I did try and get the final payment for Sarah Beatty who married John and George Beatty but the Archives could not find the record. I also copied the last two pensions from the Mexican and Indian Wars and will post abstracts tomorrow as well as an updated list showing which files were not located at the Archives (quite a few are missing from the Indian War Index). I also copied a few Beaty Rev War pensions that I was interested in: Thomas Beaty of Georgia and William Beaty of Kentucky. Does anyone claim these two men in their lineage? Laurel Baty, L252

The Cynthia Beatty she references marrying John Joseph Heard (born 1809) is the daughter of Thomas William Battey and Susan Heard and she is dead before 1850 and those are her children living with Susan Heard Beatty Robbins in 1850. The Julia she has marrying Lindsay Warren was born circa 1825 and is another daughter of Susan Herd Baty and William Thomas Batty. I don't know if I have all the right Battey/Beatty's but I tried. Laurel, did you have this Thomas on later census? Seems familiar. Donna L-3 Atlanta Constitution Atlanta Georgia Dec. 29, 1901 Historical & Genealogical This Dept. conducted by Daughters of the American Revolution (Genealogy column with queries) The Heard Family 2 1/2 columns long history of the Heard family back to 1600's (Just Battey/Baty/Beatty references) Elizabeth Heard (dau. Jesse and Judith) was born in Wilkes county in 1787, and married John Stanton in 1802.They moved to Missouri in 1810. Their children were: William, who never married; Judeth, who married, first, a McClain; second, no children. Susan Heard, the youngest child of Jesse and Judeth, married at her sister's, Mrs. Harmon's with whom she lived, Thomas Beatty, and their children were: Thomas, Henry, Cynthia and Julia. After traveling in Cuba, on account of weak lungs, Thomas Beatty died and his widow married Dr. Robbins. Dr. Robbins was thrown from his buggy when out practicing-he left one son, Chauncey, who died in the civil war. Thomas and Henry Beatty married Whatleys of Beach Island. Thomas died of heart disease in Charleston, S. C., very suddenly. Henry was killed in the civil war, but left children. Cynthia Beatty (dau. of Thomas William & Susan Heard Beatty-DVZ) married John Heard and died in Alabama. Julia Beatty(dau. of Thomas William and Susan Heard Beatty-DVZ) married Lindsay Warren and is living in Louisville, Ga.; has two sons and a daughter. Mrs. Robbins died in Louisville. (column later) John Joseph Heard (son of Abram and Nancy) born 1809 in Greene county (Ga.-probably-DVZ) married first, Cynthia Ann Beatty, grandaughter of Jesse Heard, second Ann T. Wilkins, of Eatonton, in 1851. His children : Susan Ann, who married Dr. Hunter in 1857; Julia, William, Abram, Cynthia, Nancy, Coffee, Sarah, Franklin and Lucy Harmon. (Nancy, Sarah & Frank are living with grandmother Susan Heard Beatty Robbins in 1850.-DVZ) the children of Susan Ann Heard and Dr. Hunter: Edward, John, Cynthia, Julia and Fannie. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1830 Jefferson co., GA Unknown pg. 401 Samuel W. Robbins 1 m 5-10 1 m 15-20 1 m 40-50 1 f und 5 1 f 5-10 1 f 30-40 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1840 Jefferson co., GA Dist. 82 pg. 112 (all together) Thomas W. Batty 1 m 20-30 2 f und 10 1 f 10-15 1 f 20-30 Samuel W. Robbins 1 m 5-10 1 m 20-30 1 m 50-60 2 f 20-30 Wm. H. Batty 1 m 15-20 Julia Baty 1 f 15-20 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1850 Richmond co., GA 73rd Div pg. 467 Lindsay C. Warren 30 merchant 10000 GA Julia M. 25 GA Frannie (f) 2 GA Cynthia (f) 1/12 1870 Jefferson co., GA Dist. 82 pg. 70 Lindsay C. Warren 50 farmer & merchant 67500-39000 GA Julia M. 46 GA George 18 GA Thomas H. 17 GA 1850 Jefferson co., GA 48th Dist. pg. 166 Susan A. Robbins 57 farming 7000-Wilkes co., GA R. C. 20 (male) Jeff co., GA (probably Chauncey) Nancy Herd 7 AL Sarah Herd 6 AL Franklin Herd 4 AL 1850 Richmond co., GA 73rd Dist. pg. 452 William H. Battey 27 or 29 merchant GA Frances R. 28 SC Henry J. 4 GA William W. 2 GA Thomas H. 6/12 GA 1860 Jefferson co., GA Louisville pg. 380 William H. Battey 39 farmer 15400-57800 GA Frances R. 38 NC William W. 12 GA Ruth E. 6 GA Francis C. 3 (m) GA Frances R. Battey-Alfred T. Mann 14 Sept. 1864 Jefferson co., GA 1870 Richmond co., GA Augusta PO pg. 77 Alfred T. Mann 54 preacher 20000-26000 GA Frances R. 48 keep house SC Robert Peirce 19 study law -500 GA Ruth Batty 16 GA Frank 13 GA Sumpter 9 GA Louisa Reeve 55 (B) domest. servant VA 1850 Jefferson co., GA 48th Dist. pg. 169 Thomas W. Balty/Batty 36 physician Jefferson co., GA Helen A. 30 SC Eliza L. 14 Jefferson co., GA Susan H. 11 Jefferson co., GA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jefferson County, GA Batty, William-Heard, Susan Ann Marriage Date: 28 Jun 1812 Eliza Battey-Alexander Raiford 30 March 1819 -Jefferson co., GA Jefferson County, GA Battey, Susan A.-Robbins, Samuel W. Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1825 Jefferson County, GA Battey, Cynthia-Heard, John J. Marriage Date: 15 May 1832 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IGI Henry Beatty Event(s): Birth: 1815 <Louisville, Jefferson, Georgia> Marriages: Spouse: Whatley Marriage: About 1840 , , Usa xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IGI Thomas Beatty Event(s): Birth: 1813 <Louisville, Jefferson, Georgia> Marriages: Spouse: Whatley Marriage: About 1833 , , Usa xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IGI Thomas Beatty Event(s): Birth: 1785 <, Wilkes, Georgia> Marriages: Spouse: Susannah Ann Sukey Heard Marriage: 28 JUN 1812 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Laurel and All, Rats! I sent the message below before I had finished editing it. There are at least 9 separate Beaty families listed in the 1850 US Census of Gaston County, NC. Hence, speculating that John A. of SC and William L. might be related to L-98 would be a stretch without supporting evidence. This census shows a Salina Farris, age 34, living in the household of James O. Beaty (age 26, b. Gaston, NC) and his wife, Margart L. (presumably Margaret L.). The Mrs. Beattie referred to by the Southern Christian Magazine and Due West Telescope could be Margaret. That would eliminate the Faris/Falls mystery. But then, I don't know whose kid James O. was. Les Beaty, L-20B,/L-241 Laurel, Re the citations from the Southern Christian Magazine and Due West Telescope: About the ESTHER BEATTIE who died in the home of Francis Beattie and the widow of James Beattie, we believe these people are part of L-98. Francis was her son. About Miss Salena Faris, this is a bit of a mystery. We believe L-98 Francis Beaty married Mary Falls. "Miss" Salena Faris sounds like she never married. So, the question becomes, was her name Faris or Falls. Hummmm! About John A. Beattie, son of Francis Beattie, Gaston County, NC who died in South Carolina, I suppose this could be a son of L-98 Francis, but I really don't know. About the William L. Beaty named in the Mexican War Pension, if he enlisted in the army as a private in 1847, I would extrapolate his birth year at around 1827 (assuming he enlisted at age 20). Could be four years on either side, I guess. I suppose he could have been part of L-98, perhaps a son or nephew of Francis. Francis and his next two brothers were born in 1799, 1801, and 1804, respectively. I suppose any of them could have had a son born in 1827. All is speculation, of course. Les Beaty, L-20B/L-241

I also have a scanner copy of a letter. I have tried to make it readable, but as of now cannot. Sarah Beattie L 107 Excerpt from letter to Mary Frances [Beattie Sherwood of Ballston, Saratoga Co., NY] presumably from Sarah Belknap Beattie [of Orange Co., NY]: Nov. 28th 1859 My dear daughter Mary Frances . . . there are very few people suffer,d to walk on this earth as long as I have done. I was 76 years old last satturday, 26th of Nov. . . . . . . and believe me ever your affeate Mothr [Transcribed by David B. Harper, 1504 Delphi Rd., Cazenovia, Madison Co., NY, 7 May 2003 Excerpts from letter to Mary [Frances Beattie Sherwood, of Ballston, Saratoga Co., NY] from “Mother” [Sarah Belknap Beattie, of Orange Co., NY]: May 11th 1860 My dear Daughter Mary . . . Charles is teaching in the accadimie in Newburgh Hezekiah is teaching Sarah and Sarah is teaching Mary Fanny Annie and Abby Sarah Mary Fanny has a music teacher once a week . . . [referring to (Robert) Hezekiah Beattie (Mary Frances’ brother) and his children] [Transcribed by David B. Harper, 1504 Delphi Road, Cazenovia, Madison Co., NY, 8 May 2003] Letter to Mary Frances [Beattie Sherwood of Ballston, Saratoga Co., NY] presumably from Sarah Belknap Beattie [of Orange Co., NY]: May 20th 1859 My dear daugter mary Frances I have not heard a word from you since Thommas was here, never new whither he ever got home or not, I rested on the old addage, no news is good news. and so I rested contented thinking if he had not got home we would certainly have heard from you, but I hope this will find you all in good health and spirits. I suppose you have heard of Fathers sicknefs, but he is now better but I do not think it would be prudent for him or me to go ought from home any distances at present, from home I have never been further than williams, since last summer, I feel anxious to go to midletown to see Asher and Aggy and Tommy in their new place, but Father is not able to go now, and it is very doubtful whither we shall ever get there again. I think the most prudent exercise for us at present is medditation on the Eternal world, where we are fast hasning Father is now in his Eightieth year since Fbuary, and I am in my seventy six since Nov. [?] we have attained to a good old age, and I may say few[?] and evil have the days of the of the years of my life been, but I blefs God he has made me willing in the day of his power to except the gospel offer, as he it offered in the gospel freely, without money, and without price. Hezekiah and Mariann went up to Uncle James yesterday the[y] met John and Matilda there John Bowden has built a tennant house over the Brook and Matilda has no charge but herself and husband and keeps a girl I had a letter from abba a day or two ago she had been attending the anniversary had great sattisfaction they were all well we had a line from David he has gone to the general Asembly Isabella has another daughter about a month old I cannot tell any thing about William s folks he was attending on your Father he was to be here on tuesday but he did not come I suppose he has had call another way and he had left medicine for your Father. Uncle John Beattie, Uncle James aunt Charlotte and Aunt Fanny were all here last week the first visit Uncle James has made us. Mrs Hill is dead she died about two month ago she had the palsie two or three years it is nothing strange to hear of people diing younger than my self but not so often do I hear of people older than myself dying. I would like very much to see you all here but I know from the way you are sittuated that you cant come without difficulty I leave it with you and Thommas to arange your own plans of operation Nothing gives me more pleasure than to see my children write and tell me all about the children tel me how many questions they have learned [in margin] give my love to Father Mother Thommas and the Children and believe me ever your affectionate Mother [in margin] tell sarah Belknap I want her to learn that pasage of Scripture. suffer little children to come unto me and forbid them not for of such is the kingdom of heaven. [Transcribed by David B. Harper, 1504 Delphi Rd., Cazenovia, Madison Co.,NY, 7 May 2003] Excerpt from letter presumably to Thomas Burr Sherwood and Mary Frances Beattie Sherwood [of Ballston, Saratoga Co., NY] from William Robert Clark Beattie [St. Andrews(?), Orange Co., NY]: March 11/62 My Dear Son and Daughter, yours Came Duly to hand to Day it was as Water to a thirsly Soul I had looked for a letter from you for Some time and was about to Write again, So I thought I would answer yours as you, have not had the Bby Baptzed, yet, I do not wish to Change your owne minds on this Matter if I thought he would make a better Man than I have been in Speaking with Mr Sherwood, he Said to me, that he thought his name would go out of his family I hope he is a verry good Man I Dare not think otherwise his exampl has done muh good and he may have given much for benvolent Purposes. . . [discussion presumably about naming Thomas and Mary Frances’ son born 3 Nov.1861, who was named William Beattie (after grandfather)] . . . a much longer time than I expected Seeing my life has ben So unprofitabl I am 82 years of age last February 27th my Days have Few[?] but dare not say they have been full of evil for with me my Hevenly Father has Neve Delt with me as I have sinned . . . W C Battie [Transcribed by David B. Harper, 1504 Delphi Rd., Cazenovia, Madison Co.,NY, 14 May 2003]

Nelda, did this show up on a GEDCOM? If so, it just means that whoever entered the data entered the names at different times and entered Alice Ann's maiden name at one time but not the other time. Also, George's middle name was entered one time and not another. If it is in a GEDCOM, the only person who can correct it is the person who entered the data, and doing a merge is the way to correct it. These errors do not show up until a print-out is done or you see it online. I had a similar problem in my GEDCOM of which the first generations are shown on my L-39. My great-grandfather James Lewis Beatty appears to have married a second time to the same woman. It was just my error when I entered the name. I might not have entered the birth date or birth place correctly, and the merge feature did not catch it, that I have Anna Maria Wilcox's name as 1st wife and 2nd wife. Lois Kortering ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelda Percival" <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: [BP2000] ANYONE GOING TO HELP? Error on L -005 Lineage > > Is anyone going to try to help here? This is a MAJOR ERROR.. > Nelda > > Hi, > I don't think you all are understanding what I'm trying to say. We have the > same man and the same wife with the same children same dates and same places > in the line of two different descendants of John Beatty and Jane Ross. > > One of these has to be wrong. BUT which one? He can descend from William or > Alexander but he can not descend from both on only the male side... > > John Beatty Wife Jane Ross > Child: > James Beatty a wife Agnes Beatty Maiden name unknown. (He has another wife > forget her) > Children: > William and Alexander > > William Beatty wife Mary McKee Alexander Beatty wife Agnes Beatty maiden > name unknown > > Child of William: James Beatty wife Allie Ann Irwin; Child of Alexander: > James Beatty wife Alice Ann Irwin > > HERE IS WHERE IT GETS COMPLATED>>>>>> > > Child of James Beatty Wife Allie Ann is George Washington Beatty wife > Catherine Shrom > > Child of James Beatty Wife Alice Ann Irwin is George Beatty wife Catherine > Shrom > > NOW I WOULD THINKTHIS IS THE SAME PERSON (WIFE).... COULD HAVE MARRIED > COUSINS... BUT WOULD THEY NAME THIER CHILDREN THE SAME NAMES? WITH THE SAME > BIRTHDATES? NO SHE COULDN"T BE MARRIED TO COUSINS OF THE SAME NAME AT THE > SAME TIME AND GIVE BIRTH ON THE SAME DAYS AND NAME THE CHILDREN WITH THE > SAME NAMES.... > > PLEASE ADVISE.... > > Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG > Beatty descendant line #005 > Beaty collateral line #10 > Graves descendant line #231 > Digin up bones at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have fun customizing MSN Messenger - learn how here! > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Recommend a cousin ! Send name and email to: > Mike Allen, Executive Director <naturalsoft@earthlink.net> > Rob Beatty, Membership Director <emtech@ic.net> > Ray Beaty, founder, BP2000 <RCBDJR@AOL.COM> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Visit the BP2000 Web Page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ > >

Hi Lois, No that wasn't the problem. But thanks for answering.. Ray sent a corrected copy for me to correct the error from. It was two different sets of families one correct the other incorrect. One descended from Alexander's line and one from his brother William's line. William's line is correct.. I sent a PLEASE IGNORE THIS MESSAGE as soon as it came through..the list. This was emailed to the list a week ago.. Sorry I was getting upset that no one seemed to realise there was two different entires for the same person, but down the two different lines... Thank you again for answering this.. Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty descendant line #005 Beaty collateral line #10 Graves descendant line #231 Digin up bones at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

Ray sent a corrected file.. There is nomore problem.. This email was send to the list at least before Ray came back.. I don'tknow why it just showed up... I'm soory I was just flustrated... Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty descendant line #005 Beaty collateral line #10 Graves descendant line #231 Digin up bones at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx

Laurel, Re the citations from the Southern Christian Magazine and Due West Telescope: About the ESTHER BEATTIE who died in the home of Francis Beattie and the widow of James Beattie, we believe these people are part of L-98. Francis was her son. About Miss Salena Faris, this is a bit of a mystery. We believe L-98 Francis Beaty married Mary Falls. "Miss" Salena Faris sounds like she never married. So, the question becomes, was her name Faris or Falls. Hummmm! About John A. Beattie, son of Francis Beattie, Gaston County, NC who died in South Carolina, I suppose this could be a son of L-98 Francis, but I really don't know. About the William L. Beaty named in the Mexican War Pension, if he enlisted in the army as a private in 1847, I would extrapolate his birth year at around 1827 (assuming he enlisted at age 20). Could be four years on either side, I guess. I suppose he could have been part of L-98, perhaps a son or nephew of Francis. Francis and his next two brothers were born in 1799, 1801, and 1804, respectively. I suppose any of them could have had a son born in 1827. All is speculation, of course. Les Beaty, L-20B/L-241

L-3 Bluefield Daily Telegraph Bluefield, (Mercer Co.) WV March 2, 1901 State Board of Pardons Among the cases before the board is that of John W. Beatty, of Preston county, who was convicted of the murder of his brother-in-law, Nine, and sentenced to be hung the 15th of February. Governor Atkinson respited Beatty until the 12th of April in order to give his attorney time to have his case heard by the board. Beatty's own wife, whose brother the murdered man was, is opposed to the commutation. A large number of people from Preston county, however, ask for the commutation of the death penalty in this case to life imprisonment. Bluefield Daily Telegraph Bluefield, (Mercer Co.) WV March 22, 1901 Aged Man in Fit of Anger Shoots his Brother-In-Law and will Probably Hang for it. At the north end of the south hall was an affecting scene. Three men confined in small cells awaiting the day on which they are to die a death of disgrace to pay the penalty of a single act. John Wesley Beaty, of Preston county, was originally sentenced to hang on February 15th but he was given an extension of time until April 13th to make application before the state board of pardons to have his sentence commuted to life imprisonment. When the board met last week Beaty's case was presented but not regular and could not be considered. It will be heard by the board on April 2nd. Beaty is an aged white man who is said to have lived a law abiding life. His son stole cider from the cellar of Mrs. Beaty's brother, David Nye(Nine) who had the boy arrested for theft. The boy is now serving a two year sentence in prison for the offense. The action of his brother-in-law so enraged Beaty that he hunted him up and shot him to death. Bluefield Daily Telegraph Bluefield, (Mercer Co.) WV September 30. 1902 ON SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE MURDER John W. Beatty will Die Two Years to the Day from the Time He Killed David Nine Case will come before Pardon Board Before Date of Execution. Morgantown, Sept. 29_ Unless the state board of pardons at its meeting on the first Tuesday in October decides otherwise John Wesley Beatty, now confined in the state penitentiary at Moundsville, will hang on Thursday, November 20th, two years to the very day on which he shot and killed his brother-in-law David A. Nine, on Salt Lick, a few miles from Terra Alta, in Preston county. Judge Holt, in closing the recent session of the circuit court for Preston county, sentenced Beatty for the second time. Beatty it will be remembered, had a son who entered Nine's cellar, taking therefrom a quantity of cider. Nine had the boy arrested and he was sent to jail at Kingwood. Beatty, father of the boy, a few mornings later, took his gun and going to the Nine farm just adjoining, found Nine and a companion at work in the barn, engaged in husking corn. Beatty, showing nothing unusual in his manner, addressed Nine familiarly, making various charges of things he (Nine) had done to Beatty, and then without a moment's warning, placed his gun to his shoulder and shot Nine in the back, killing him almost instantly. Beatty escaped and was at large for a day or so, but finally gave himself up to justice, was taken to Kingwood, tried at the December term of court, found guilty and sentenced to be hanged. Bluefield Daily Telegraph Bluefield, (Mercer Co.) WV Oct. 19, 1902 BEATTY'S NECK SAVED BY PARDON BOARD'S ACTION First Time that Body has ever Commuted the Death Sentence to Life Imprisonment Due to Extraordinary Public Sentiment Where Crime Occurred Wheeling, Oct. 18_ The West Virginia Pardon Board was in session at Moundsville yesterday. They acted in several cases, making more favorable recommendations than is usual. In the famous case of J. Wesley Beatty, who was convicted in the circuit court of Preston county of the murder of David A. Nine, and who is under sentence of death, his day of execution being fixed for the 20th of November, the board, after long deliberation recommended that the death penalty be commuted to sentence for life. Beatty has had a varied experience since he committed the terrible crime of which he was convicted over two years ago. He was respited by the governor, refused favorable recommendation by the pardon board, in which action the governor also concurred, and his case was taken to the Supreme court of Appeals, which affirmed the decision of the circuit court of Preston county. If the governor now coincides with the pardon board Beatty's neck will be saved. This is the first time the board has recommended commutation of death penalty to life imprisonmentin the three years in which it has been acting and during which time it has had a number of capital cases before it. The chief reason for making a favorable recommendation on behalf of Beatty at this time was the extraordinary public sentiment in favor of this by the people of Preston county, where the crime was committed.

L-? Alton Telegraph and Democratic Review Alton, (Madison co.), IL (on MO border) April 25, 1846 FINAL SETTLEMENT Notice is hereby given that on the first Monday in the month of June next, we will apply to the court of probate of Madison county, Illinois, for a final settlement of the estate of Alexander Beatty, deceased; at which time and place all persons having claim against said estate are hereby notified to attend, and present the same for adjustment. Charlotte Beatty, Adm'x John C. Young, Adm'r xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx L-82 Indiana Messenger Indiana, PA March 31, 1897 DIED: BEATTY At her home at Deer Trail, Colorado March 3d, 1897, Margaret Beatty, aged 76 years. Mrs. Beatty was born in Armstrong township, this county, in 1820. Her maiden name was Peelor, and was married to John B. Beatty, who died 39 years ago. In 1876 she moved with her family to the west, where she spent her remaining years with her son Edward. At her request her remains were laid to rest near her western home. 1850 PA INDIANA ARMSTRONG 178 178 BATY JOHN B. 28 1822 PA JOHN B-28; MARGARET-30; DIVEN P-4; ROBERT E-2; JOHN 1/12; ALL BORN PA. xxxxxxxxxxxx 1860 Indiana co., PA Armstrong pg. 20 (part of Armstrong not on Ancestry) 1870 Indiana co., PA Armstrong twp. Margaret Beaty 50 keep house 3000-1600 PA Daniel 19 farming PA George Bethel 14 PA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1880- Precinct J, Seward, Nebraska Source: FHL Film 1254756 National Archives Film T9-0756 Page 464B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Margeret BEATTY Self F W W 58 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA Daniel BEATTY Son M M W 30 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: --- Mo: --- Martha J. SWENY ADau F S W 11 PA Fa: --- Mo: --- Edward SWENY GSon M S W 8M NE Fa: --- Mo: --- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Donna L-3

Some one asked if anyone knew who the parents of this William is. I do not, but found 2 lineages associated with Gaston County, NC: L56 and L203. I also remembered this earlier post I had made--I not not how it connects but this Francis also lived in Gaston, NC. From: Southern Christian Magazine Of The South, The Erskine Miscellany, and The Due West Telescope, 1843-1863" compiled by Lowry Ware, SCMAR, Columbia, South Carolina,1993 Page 40 Died at the house of Dr. Brice, Fairfield District, S. C. on the 9th of October last, John A. Beattie, son of Francis Beattie, Gaston County, NC.....only twenty one years of age ["Christian magazine of The South" the issue date is on the previous page, next date is January, 1851, looks like a monthly magazine, so it is most likely Dec. 1850--if anyone needs the date let me know and I will copy it next time I am at the library] Page 121 "Due West Telescope" May 25, 1860 Died near Pisgah, Gaston Co., N. C., Miss Salena Faris, on the 1st of May, in her forty eighth year. She was a member of a large family and has left but one of that family behind her--a sister--Mrs. BEATTIE, at whose home she was living, and who stood at her dying bed. Miss Faris was a native of York District, and raised near the Nation Ford; made a profession early in the Methodist and afterward in the A. R. Church, Pisgah, N. C. Page 127 "Due West Telescope"--again the date wasn't copied but the next issue date is August 24, 1860. Died at house of FRANCIS BEATTIE near Pisgah, Gaston, NC, January 26, 1860, Mrs. ESTHER BEATTIE. Mrs. Beattie had been a widow for many years. Her husband, JAMES BEATTIE, a native of Carlisle, Pa., was near the spot and heard the roar of battle, that memorable day, when Col. Campbell and his faithful mountain boys routed the Tories on King's Mountain. he was some time Clerk in Long Creek...filled for many years the office of ruling elder in Pisgah A. R. Church. In 1824, he and his family moved to Macon Co., N. C. and built a house of worship there, and perhaps organized a church, which was occasionally visited by Dr. McElwee and others. Then in 1828, JAMES BEATTIE died. His widow returned to Crowder's Creek and resided with her little children. Laurel Baty, L252 Laurel Baty wrote: > Mexican War Pension > In 1887 Rachel Beatty, a resident of Mt. Pleasant, Cabarrus County, N. > C. states that she is the widow of William L. Beatty who was a private > in Capt. Green W. Caldwell's company in the 3rd regiment of US Dragoons > commanded by Col John F. Hoke. He enlisted at Charlotte, NC in April of > 1847. She states that her maiden name was Rachel Cress and she was > married March 22, 1853 at the home of Catherine Cress in NC. Her > husband died Jan. 5, 1873. She is 53 and was born June 19, 1834 at > Daniel Cress' husband of said Catherine Cress in NC. She is disabled by > "Bleeding of the Lungs." She states "I and my husband Wm L. Beatty then > living opposed the rebellion to its bitter end. My husband Wm L. Beatty > kept out of the Confederate army by disability. A disease contracted in > the Mexican war." She also states that since the death of her husband > she has lived at the following places.."Catherine Cress my mother's > until her death in the year 1877 and since her death up to the present > time at Elias Cress my brother's both places in Cabarrus County, NC." > In another form she states her husband was born in the County of Gaston, > NC. After leaving the service her husband lived at Charlotte NC for 2 > years, at Concord NC 1 year at Mt Pleasant for 1 year and at Salisbury > for 5 years. > Several people, Saml H. P. Murr, Abigail Faggart, Jane A. Barringer and > Safia E. Walker give affidavits concerning the marriage of Rachel and > William and William's death. > A physician states "Applicant married at the age of nineteen and lived > in wedlock for about twenty years and never had any children." > There are two acts of Congress in this file granting "pensions and > increase of pension to certain soldiers...and to widows.." that include > the name of Rachel Beatty: > > S. 229 Rachel Beatty, of Mount Pleasant, N. C., is the widow of William > L. Beatty who served in the Mexican war from April 13, 1847, to August > 8, 1848, as a private in Company A, Third Regiment United States > Dragoons. > Soldier died January 5, 1873, and claimant, who was married to him March > 22, 1853, is now receiving a pension of $8 per month under the > provisions of the Mexican war service act of January 29, 1887. > Mrs. Beatty was born June 19, 1834, and is consequently over 73 years of > age. It appears from the papers on file in her case that she is in > feeble health, being afflicted with a pulmonary disease, and that she > has no resources or means of support except her small pension. > There are many precedents for legislation in cases of this character and > an increase of pension to $12 per month, as proposed in the bill is > recommended. > > Rachel Beatty's pension was terminated upon her death Jan. 23, 1923. > This file is 39 pages long. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Visit the BP2000 Web Page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/

--part1_ac.4e18f813.2d20e6fa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_ac.4e18f813.2d20e6fa_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <nontext-reject@lists5.rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-xi04.mx.aol.com (rly-xi04.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.9]) by air-xi04.mail.aol.com (v97.14) with ESMTP id MAILINXI44-4de3fef857e2d2; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:38:19 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by rly-xi04.mx.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXI46-4de3fef857e2d2; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:38:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id hBT1btqJ011965; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:37:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:37:55 -0700 Message-Id: <200312290137.hBT1btqJ011965@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: rikkitikki@aol.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [BP2000] William L. Beatty, NC, Mex War References: <136.28d2a189.2d20df72@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <136.28d2a189.2d20df72@aol.com> From: BP2000-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Mailer: Procmail Autoreply X-Loop: BP2000-L-request@rootsweb.com X-AOL-IP: 207.40.200.41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > --part1_136.28d2a189.2d20df72_boundary > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="part1_136.28d2a189.2d20df72_alt_boundary" > --part1_136.28d2a189.2d20df72_alt_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Might anyone know who this Wm L. Beaty's parents were? > Judi > --part1_136.28d2a189.2d20df72_alt_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT SIZE=3D2 PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY= > =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Might anyone know who this Wm L. Be= > aty's parents were?<BR> > <BR> > Judi</FONT></HTML> > --part1_136.28d2a189.2d20df72_alt_boundary-- > --part1_136.28d2a189.2d20df72_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > Return-Path: <BP2000-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (rly-yd05.mail.aol.com [172.18.141.69]) by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (v97.14) with ESMTP id MAILINYD24-2173fe8a5e2229; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:31:13 -0500 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.41]) by rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD55-2173fe8a5e2229; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:30:30 -0500 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id hBNKUE3S008979; > Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:30:15 -0700 > Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:30:15 -0700 > X-Original-Sender: laurel.baty@verizon.net Tue Dec 23 13:30:14 2003 > Message-ID: <3FE8A6AE.99F4DE32@verizon.net> > Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:33:50 -0500 > From: Laurel Baty <laurel.baty@verizon.net> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (Win95; U) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Old-To: "BP2000-L@rootsweb.com" <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [151.196.243.86] at Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:30:20 -0600 > X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 > Subject: [BP2000] William L. Beatty, NC, Mex War > Resent-Message-ID: <Y3UHoC.A.-LC.WXK6_@lists5.rootsweb.com> > To: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/9649 > X-Loop: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: BP2000-L-request@rootsweb.com > X-AOL-IP: 207.40.200.41 > Mexican War Pension > In 1887 Rachel Beatty, a resident of Mt. Pleasant, Cabarrus County, N. > C. states that she is the widow of William L. Beatty who was a private > in Capt. Green W. Caldwell's company in the 3rd regiment of US Dragoons > commanded by Col John F. Hoke. He enlisted at Charlotte, NC in April of > 1847. She states that her maiden name was Rachel Cress and she was > married March 22, 1853 at the home of Catherine Cress in NC. Her > husband died Jan. 5, 1873. She is 53 and was born June 19, 1834 at > Daniel Cress' husband of said Catherine Cress in NC. She is disabled by > "Bleeding of the Lungs." She states "I and my husband Wm L. Beatty then > living opposed the rebellion to its bitter end. My husband Wm L. Beatty > kept out of the Confederate army by disability. A disease contracted in > the Mexican war." She also states that since the death of her husband > she has lived at the following places.."Catherine Cress my mother's > until her death in the year 1877 and since her death up to the present > time at Elias Cress my brother's both places in Cabarrus County, NC." > In another form she states her husband was born in the County of Gaston, > NC. After leaving the service her husband lived at Charlotte NC for 2 > years, at Concord NC 1 year at Mt Pleasant for 1 year and at Salisbury > for 5 years. > Several people, Saml H. P. Murr, Abigail Faggart, Jane A. Barringer and > Safia E. Walker give affidavits concerning the marriage of Rachel and > William and William's death. > A physician states "Applicant married at the age of nineteen and lived > in wedlock for about twenty years and never had any children." > There are two acts of Congress in this file granting "pensions and > increase of pension to certain soldiers...and to widows.." that include > the name of Rachel Beatty: > S. 229 Rachel Beatty, of Mount Pleasant, N. C., is the widow of William > L. Beatty who served in the Mexican war from April 13, 1847, to August > 8, 1848, as a private in Company A, Third Regiment United States > Dragoons. > Soldier died January 5, 1873, and claimant, who was married to him March > 22, 1853, is now receiving a pension of $8 per month under the > provisions of the Mexican war service act of January 29, 1887. > Mrs. Beatty was born June 19, 1834, and is consequently over 73 years of > age. It appears from the papers on file in her case that she is in > feeble health, being afflicted with a pulmonary disease, and that she > has no resources or means of support except her small pension. > There are many precedents for legislation in cases of this character and > an increase of pension to $12 per month, as proposed in the bill is > recommended. > Rachel Beatty's pension was terminated upon her death Jan. 23, 1923. > This file is 39 pages long. > Laurel Baty, L252 > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Visit the BP2000 Web Page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ > --part1_136.28d2a189.2d20df72_boundary-- Hi -- The message you submitted to this list (included above) wasn't sent to the list subscribers. RootsWeb accepts only plain text mail. That means that HTML mail, attachments, ``enriched text'', and a few other formats can't be sent to RootsWeb mailing lists. 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>From "The Pulaski Citizen", Giles County, Tennessee Jan. 23, 1873 In Chancery At Pulaski JANUARY RULES, 1873. E. Edmundson, Com. &c., vs. W. F. Benson and others In this cause it appearing to the satisfaction of the Clerk and Master, from an affidavit to the bill, that the defendants, W. F. Benson, E. J. Beaty and her husband, J. J. Beaty, and James L. Gooch, are non-residents of the state of Tennessee, so that the ordinary process of law cannot be served on them: It is therefore ordered that publication be made for four weeks in succession in the Pulaski Citizen: a newspaper published in the town of Pulaski, in said State, requiring the said defendants to be and appear on the first day of the next term of the Chancery Court to be held for the county of Giles, at the court-house in Pulaski, on the first Monday in March next, and answer complainant’s bill, or the same will be taken for confessed as to them and set for hearing ex-parte. J. B. STACY, C & M J. & W. H. McCALLUM, Att’ys. Ja23 Feb. 13, 1873 Our young friend Ed. F. Batte, who has spent the past month with his many friends and relatives at this place, left for Texas Monday night. We are glad to know that Ed. Is doing well and is advancing rapidly in his profession. It will be some time before this place is made glad with his presence again. He takes with him the best wishes of all –also a traveling certificate of honorary membership to the Piccalo Club. May 15, 1873 Tribute of Respect Elkton Masonic Hall May 2, 1873 Whereas, we have been deprived of the companionship of Brother JOSEPH J. BEATY, who died at his house in Arkansas on the 30th day of January last, it behooves us to express our veneration for his memory: therefore be it Resolved, that Elkton Lodge, No. 24, has lost a worthy and estimable member of the community in which he lived, a good citizen and an eminent and successful physician. Resolved, That while we regret that more of his time and talent was not given to the cause of Masonry, we accord to him an honest effort to conform to its tenets, especially in the manifestations of charity to the indigent. Resolved, That we extend to his bereaved family our heartfelt sympathy in their sad loss, assuring them that we will ever be ready to befriend them in time of difficulties and afflictions. Resolved, that a copy of these resolutions be sent to the PULASKI CITIZEN for publication, and a copy be furnished his family and that they also be spread on the Lodge record. A. W. MOORE J. W. VAUGHN W. A. BAUGH Committee

George William Beattie, born 11 Apr 1863, son of George and Grace Beattie of Burlington St. was baptized 3 May 1863 at St. Peter's Parish, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. Father's occupation Dock Gate Man. Source: Baptismal Records 1862 - 1863 Vol 53 pg 325 Dave Leavenworth Lineage 179

Can anyone find Jeremy Beatty on their line? ****************************************************** Jeremy, I strongly encourage you to associate with Beatty Project-2000. You will find the membership director's (Rob Beatty's) email address at the bottom of this mssg. Happy Hunting, Tom Beatty BPL-199 ******************************************************* hello my name is jeremy beatty, i was surfing the web and came upon this. I have asked my grandparents about my back ground and all my grand mother could tell me is that she was a "jenkins". I have some beatty relatives in alabama. My grand father's name is hilton beatty he has a two brothers named Royce and James which live in alabama. My grandparents have three children Jimmy ( my father ), lyndia, and hilton Jr. ( or buddy ). I am very curious as to my background. Any information you have would be appreciated. thank you, jeremy p.s my email address is hrd4huntin@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------ ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== Recommend a cousin ! Send name and email to: Mike Allen, Executive Director <naturalsoft@earthlink.net> Rob Beatty, Membership Director <emtech@ic.net> Ray Beaty, founder, BP2000 <RCBDJR@AOL.COM> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/

>From "Bounty and Donation Land Grants of Texas 1835 - 1888" by Thomas Lloyd Miller, University of Texas Press, Austin, 1967: Page 95 --BATEY, WILLIAM Received Bty Wnt 2900 for 640 acres from S War on 14 Apr 1838 for service from 18 Mar to 18 Nov 1836. 640 acres in Callahan Cty were ptd to John W. Dancy, asgn, on 6 May 1853. Pat 567 Vol 6 Abst 21 GLO File Travis Bty 244. Pages 98 -99 BEATTY, S. S. Received Bty Wnt 1799 for 320 acres from AG on 23 Nov 1854 for service from 8 July to 8 Oct 1836. 320 acres were surveyed in McLennan Cty but never ptd as the wnt was suspended by CC on 20 Jan 1857. GLO File Mil Bty 1198. BEATY, EDWARD Received Bty Wnt 7060 fro 320 acres from S War on 23 Jan 1839 for service from 12 Apr to 12 July 1836. This wnt was lost and Dup Wnt 178 was issued by AG on 4 Jan 1847 and upon this wnt 320 acres in Jac Cty were ptd to Beaty on 13 Oct 1847. Pat 218 Vol 4 Abst 97 GLO File Jac Bty 30. BEATY, JOHN The heirs of John Beaty received Bty Wnt 1139 for 320 acres from AG on 9 Aug 1852 for service from 11 Sept to 11 Dec 1836. 220 acres in Brown Cty and 100 acres in Mills Cty were ptd to them on 17 May 1893 and 14 Oct 1902. Pats 512 & 587 Vol 16 Brown Abst 95 Mills Cty Abst 37 GLO File Travis Bty 733. BEATY, JOSEPH Received Bty Wnt 9965 for 320 acres from S War on 16 Feb 1842 for service from 6 July to 6 Oct 1836. 320 acres in San Aug Cty were ptd to John C. Smith, asgn, on 17 Feb 1842. Pat 405 Vol 1 Abst 63 GLO File San Aug Bty 13. BEATY, WASHINGTON Received Bty Wnt for 960 acres from S War on 6 Nov 1837 for service from 23 Feb 1836 to 14 Nov 1837, 960 acres in Jac Cty were ptd to him on 8 Oct 1846. Pat 197 Vol 3 Abst 98 GLO File Vic Bty 27. Also received Bty Wnt 2179 for 320 acres from S War on 30 June 1838. 320 acres in Fan Cty were ptd to W. F. Gray, asgn, on 18 Nov 1845. Pat 48 Vol 3 Abst 114 GLO File Fan Bty 90. L. Baty, L252

>From the "Western Weekly Review" Williamson County TN: Jan. 9, 1852 -- "John Beaty's candle and soap factory, on water street, Nashville, was consumed by fire on Sunday morning last. He was fully insured." [From an earlier message: Beaty, John, 83, died yesterday, well known citizen; born in County Dungannon, Ireland; came to U. S. when he was 14; lived in New York four or five years, moved to Lexington, Ky, where he resided until 1820; then came to Nashville; lived here 55 years; had considerable fortune; buried City Cemetery today. (Nashville Union and American, 3 Dec 1874.) Mr. Beaty came to Nashville in 1820.... [ from an earlier post: From "Davidson County, Tennessee Naturalization Records 1803-1906" abstracted by Mary Sue Smith, 1997, page 184: Beatty, John [Declaration] a native of Ireland, born in the County of Tyrone in 1793; immigrated to the United States in 1811, landed in NewYork City; removed to Lexington, KY and resided there about four years; removed thence to Nashville, TN and has resided here ever since; declares his intention to become a citizen; renounces allegiance to Queen Victoria. 21 Sept. 1839 1870 TN Census, Davidson County, 1 WD Nashville, page 182A Beaty, John 79 Chandler, born Ireland, $25,000 land, $700.00 personal Beaty, Nancy 61 born TN Beaty, Wm (?) 34 Physician TN Beaty, Martha 20 TN Hard, Anna 20 TN Beaty, Mattie 19 TN Hard, Alex 23 Clerk on Books TN Walsh, Wm 75 book keeper TN Keenan, Thos 25 Black, laborer, NC] L. Baty, L252

Does anyone have access to this book? Donna L-3 History of Jersey City, NJ 1895 by Alexander McLean pg. 402 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx A New Jersey Biographical Index By Donald A. Sinclair Beatty, Asher, born 1862 McLe 402* (McLean, Alexander. History of Jersey City. Jersey City, 1895.) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Ray, Thank you so much I thought I was going crazy.. No one understood I was speaking about two different people.. George Washington Beatty and George Beatty. Is there anyway you can convert the gedcom to a word document. And send as a word attachment instead of a gedcom file. I'll convert it if you can't ist just easier for me. If i upload a gedcom to my file it over writes whats there. So I enter it individually a person at a time. Either way I want the file #3. I'm getting into Berk's perage to check the info there. I sent my line to the list and I descend from Alexander and first wife. I thought you would have gotten that. Nelda Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin, IBSSG Beatty descendant line #005 Beaty collateral line #10 Graves descendant line #231 Digin up bones at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: RCBDJR@aol.com Subject: Lineage 005 Problem.... Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:25:01 EST Sorry about the delay in responding to this problem folks....I have been gone for a couple of days.... I remember this problem in the Lineage 005 records........I think it came from the 1989 Marlene Smith genealogy, Lancaster, Ohio......my memory is not perfectly clear on this so let's not blame Marlene......I do remember the solution, however. I went back to Egle's book (as you know the major secondary source on early Lineage 005) ....he has the George Beatty who married 3rd Catherine Shrom as the son of James Beatty and Alice Ann Irwin.....he then has James as the son of William and Mary Mckee. Egle has no descendants for Alexander, brother of William. Today I double-checked all of the above....re-reading Egle....and the above stands.... Unfortunately Egle is the best we have at this point. He lists no sources so his work doesn't really "prove" anything....just gives us a guide..... A couple of years ago I started an update of L-005 attempting to document it all and then got sidetracked (perhaps overwhelmed.....especially with the Orange Co NY branch).....ANYWAY........ I evidently didn't send Mike this update since I considered it incomplete and awaiting further attention..... am not sure I sent it to Donna either who has been working on the lineage......so apologies are in order to both..... Of the three versions I have of L-005--- 1. my old copy of the Lineages Master File 2. Mike's December 2002 copy... 3. My "update in progress" copy of L-005 #3 is the most complete and most documented..... I will be happy to send anyone a gedcom of #3..... Ray _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access — limited time only! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup