NO This Bio below is Henry, son of James and Anne Marie(Mary) Kahl, not Hiram. Julie Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <lekort@comcast.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Bio of Hiram Beatty, Wood County, OH > Julie Miller has just given me the source of this biography of H. BEATTY, (Hiram BEATTY). While adding the title and publisher and date at the top, I noticed all of my late-night typos, so if anyone wants to keep this bio., use this one. E-mail has spoiled me, because it automatically does a spell check; whereas, when I type on a Word document, I have to remember to request a spell-check! > > Julie pointed out that the name "Battey" is one of the publishers' names! > > Lois Kortering, L-39 & L-134 > > History of STARK COUNTY, with an outline sketch of OHIO. > Edited by William Henry Perrin > CHIGAGO > Baskin & Battey, Historical Publishers, > 186 Dearborn Street > 1881 > > CITY OF MASSILLON > Page 659 > > H. BEATTY, coal business, Massillon; was born in Franklin Co., Penn., Dec. 16 1816, the fifth of a family of eight children, born to James and Mary (Kate) Beatty. James was born in the north of Ireland and settled in Baltimore, having four sons: James, John, Robert , and Hugh. > > The Beatty family came west in 1818, located in Kendal, but afterward moved across the river on to Judge Henry's farm, where they lived thirteen years, and then, moved to Lawrence Twp., where he had purchased land, and lived there until his death, which occurred in 1848; his wife died when our subject was small. They had a family of ten children, eight of whom grew to maturity: George, John, Hannah, James, Henry, Sarah, Jonathan, and Mary. Our subject had but poor school advantages, and remained at home until he was 21 years of age; he then learned the coopers' trade in Jackson Twp., at which he worked until 1850, running a shop of his own, when he went to California and worked at mining; returning in 1852, he engaged in the grocery and provision business, at which he continued twenty-seven years, retiring from the same in 1880. > > For several years past, Mr. Beatty has been engaged in the coal business. He was married in 1853 to Agnes Tinkler, born in England, and died in 1871, leaving three children: Harry T., Orrin C., and Mary E. He married, as his second wife, Jane Roberts, born in Indiana Co., Penn., whose parents were from England. He is a member of all the Masonic organizations, and has been interested in the political issues of the day, being a true Republican. > > This is Hiram Beatty, the same Beatty as in the Wood County, Ohio biography. > A copy of the article was given to me by Gary S. Beatty here in Muskegon, Michigan in 1990. He obtained the pages of family history from his father, Alan S. Beatty. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois" <lekort@comcast.net> > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:06 AM > Subject: [BP2000] Bio of Hiram Beatty, Wood County, OH > > > > The H. Beatty Obituary I just posted was not found online, but I was glad to find this one, because the faded speckled copy was difficult to read. I was given that copy in 1990 by a local Beatty family we did not know and could not connect with in any way until I became familiar with some of the names in Lineage 134. Obviously, the "H" is for Hiram, and not Henry, and this is the same man. The Heritage Pursuit website administered by Alan L. Potts is a very useful site. The "POTTS" family has followed both sides of my family, I believe! I think they are also related to the POTTERS, because in Pennsylvania there is a Pottsville, a Pottstown, a Potter's Brook, a Potter Brooks, and in our Capital, there is the beautiful Potters Field. > > > > Maybe some of you have already seen this biography. I copied it off the website at the same time I was having a phone conversation! It just so happened that right after we connected, Sue Knost was getting ready to go out of town for ten days. I believe she is going to Ohio, so maybe she will learn some more pieces of family history while visiting her family. She might be sorry, though, to come up north and get caught in our Winter Storm Warning weather that is supposed to last for a while! > > > > http://www.heritagepursuit.com/index.html > > > > Lois Kortering L-39, soon merging with L-134 > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Visit the BP2000 Web page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ > >

History of STARK COUNTY, with an outline sketch of OHIO. Edited by William Henry Perrin CHIGAGO Baskin & Battey, Historical Publishers, 186 Dearborn Street 1881 It came from the above publication. Interesting that there is another Battey involved in the publishing. Julie Miller-L134 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <lekort@comcast.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:23 PM Subject: [BP2000] Biography of Henry Beatty > The date, publication, and author are unknown, but it is probably a local history book about Massillon, Stark County, Ohio. A copy of the article was given to me in 1990 by a local Beatty family that I did not think was related until a few days ago. > > > > CITY OF MASSILLON, page 659 > > > > H. BEATTY, coal business, Massillon; was born in Franklin Co., Penn., Dec. 16 1816, the fifth of a family of eight children, born to James and Mary (Kate) Beatty. James was born in the north of Ireland and settled in Baltimore, having four sons: James, John, Robert , and Hugh. > > > > The Beatty family came west in 1818, located in Kendal, but afterward moved across the river on to Judge Henry's farm, where they lived thirteen years, and then, moved to Lawrence Twp., where he had purchased land, and lived there until his death, which occurred in 1848; his wife died when our subject was small. They had a family of ten children, eight of whom grew to maturity: George, John, Hannah, James, Henry, Sarah, Jonathan, and Mary. Our subject had but poor school advantages, and remained at home until he was 21 years of age; he then learned the coopers' trade in Jackson Twp., at which he worked until 1850, running a shop of his own, when he went to California and worked at mining; returning in 1852, he engaged in the grocery and provision business, at which he continued twenty-seven years, retiring from the same in 1880. > > > > For several years past, Mr. Beatty has been engaged in the coal business. He was married in 1853 to Agnes Tinkler, born in England, and died in 1871, leaving three children: Harry T., Orrin C., and Mary E. He married, as his second wife, Jane Roberts, born in Indiana Co., Penn., whose parents were from England. He is a member of all the Masonic organizations, and has been interested in the political issues of the day, being a true Republican. > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Recommend a cousin ! Send name and email to: > Mike Allen, Executive Director <naturalsoft@earthlink.net> > Rob Beatty, Membership Director <emtech@ic.net> > Ray Beaty, founder, BP2000 <RCBDJR@AOL.COM> > >

Laurel, a lot of the information in the biography was probably taken from this obituary, and then published in a commemorative book. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Massillon, Stark, Ohio > My email is very slow today--I am just now getting messages from this morning. > I still haven't gotten the message that I sent but I got this one from Donna and > decided to transcribe the article. I was wrong about Kentucky--just goes to > show, always look at the original source if you can! > > The Massillon Independent (Massillon, Ohio) May 15, 1899 > Mr. Beatty Dead > Funeral Services to be Held Friday Afternoon > Eighty-Three Years Old > Mr. Beatty spent practically his entire life in Kendal, Massillon, and vicinity > --He was a native of Pennsylvania. > Henry Beatty, another of Massillon's oldest and most honored residents, passed > away with the close of day whose break had found his friend and fellow citizen > of many years, Robert H. Folger, no longer among the living. Mr. Beatty was > conscious to the very last. Death, which was caused by the infirmities and > complications which come with advanced age, occurred shortly after 8 o'clock. > The funeral services will be conducted by Massillon Commandery, Knights Templar > at the residence at 275 East main Street, at 2 o'clock Friday afternoon. > Mr. Beatty was a son of James and Mary Beatty, and was born in Franklin County, > Pennsylvania on December 16, 1816, the fifth of eight children. The family came > west in 1818, locating first in Kendal, but later moving across the river. > Afterwards they took up residence in Lawrence township. Mr. Beatty's > educational advantages were few, but he made the most of them. He remained at > home until he reached his 21st year, then he went to Jackson Township, where he > learned the trade of Cooper, at which he worked until 1850, operating a shop of > his own a greater part of the time. > In 1850 he went to California, where he worked in the mines for two years, > returning to Massillon in 1852 and engaging in the grocery business. Mr. Beatty > also was identified with the coal trade for many years, locating several large > territories in this district. He retired from active business life in 1880. > Mr. Beatty's store was in his brick block in which the business of Messrs. > Schwalm & Doll are now located. Mr. Beatty always retained possession of this > building. > Mr. Beatty was married to Agnes Tinkler in Massillon in 1853. Mrs. Beatty died > in 1871, leaving three children -- Harry T. and Miss Mary E. Beatty of Massillon > and Orrin C. Beatty of Cleveland. Mr. Beatty's second marriage took place in > 1873, when Jane Roberts of Massillon became his wife. She survives him. > Two brothers and a sister survive Mr. Beatty -- George age 91 years, of Williams > County; Jonathan of Crystal Spring and Mrs. Mary McLaughlin of Williams County. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > > > > Donna VanZandt wrote: > > > Laurel, > > That looks interesting. Is it this one? I'm interested. Any OH. Donna L-3 > > > > 1880-Massillon, Stark, Ohio > > > > Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 > > Page 156A > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age > > Birthplace > > > > Henry BEATTY Self M M W 62 PA > > > > Occ: Coal Operator Fa: MD Mo: PA > > > > Jennie BEATTY Wife F M W 34 > > PA > > > > Occ: Keeps House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG > > > > O. Charles BEATTY Son M S W 22 OH > > > > Occ: Law Student Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > > > Mary E. BEATTY Dau F S W 17 OH > > > > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > > > Mary OHLMAN Other F S W 17 OH > > > > Occ: Servant Fa: BADEN Mo: OH > > > > Henry IHLER Other M S W 54 PA > > > > Occ: Gardener Fa: PA Mo: PA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > Has anyone seen the death notice/Biography of Henry Beatty on Ancestry.com > > in the newspaper section? {May 15, 1899, Massillion Indep.} > > > There is a lot of interesting information in this bio. It states that he > > was born in Franklin Co, PA on Dec. 16, 1816 the fifth of 8 children. The > > family came west in 1818 locating first in KY but later moving across the > > river." I can transcribe this if anyone is interested. There are also > > about 10 or so other mentions of Henry in the same paper, different dates. > > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > > > Lois wrote: > > > > > > > Donna and BP Listers, > > > > > > > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother > > were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our > > James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found > > his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was > > formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our James > > IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in > > Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has been > > very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still like to > > question and wonder. > > > > > > > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, > > but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the > > grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland > > when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and Robert, > > not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My > > James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who was > > one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had > > listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was trying to > > get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but his > > siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had > > written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating condition, > > and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived with > > his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his wife > > died in 1874. > > > > > > > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the > > family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he was > > 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He and > > his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this > > country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We > > might still be looking for a fourth James. > > > > > > > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The > > 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would > > have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out > > correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in > > 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year > > after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > > > > > > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to > > understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone > > in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask how > > do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there > > were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on the > > internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in the > > state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got an > > exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a marriage > > record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December 1840. > > The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married Ann > > Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his > > birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or > > Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. Bea(t)y > > signed as having witn! > > > es! > > > > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names > > Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > > > > > > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty > > copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who > > wrote "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the > > 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had > > their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time > > of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an > > office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's > > Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > > > > > > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > > > > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about > > 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It was > > located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site now > > occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The Federal > > Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part > > includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in > > concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short > > distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in > > the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > > > > > > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in > > connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel > > Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know for > > certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is this > > Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is difficult > > to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in 1792. > > Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > > > > > > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a > > Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation > > before ours. > > > > > > > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born > > in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph > > County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley > > more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his > > pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, Alabama, > > Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were > > related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley was > > a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had written > > in one of his letters. > > > > > > > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have > > e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon > > Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got > > from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper > > article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave > > me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the > > great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my > > great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) > > of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and > > died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 > > believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, > > Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died > > young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a > > census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more ch! > > > il! > > > > dren that way. > > > > > > > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of > > Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the > > article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary > > (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in > > the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, > > John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City of > > Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary > > (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames of > > "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > > > > > > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, > > Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look > > at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the > > Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages > > 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 > > Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > Joshua > > > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our politics. > > There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname LEWIS > > in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, just > > like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the > > "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I > > have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in > > them. > > > > > > > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not > > been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name > > to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there is > > a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV > > until further notice? > > > > > > > > Lois Kortering > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > > > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > > > > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Fayette co., KY > > > > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > > > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > > > > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to > > mind the > > > > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain > > this > > > > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct > > that my > > > > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all > > my just > > > > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every > > description > > > > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and > > appoint > > > > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, > > my > > > > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may > > have > > > > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die > > possessed of > > > > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being > > to > > > > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such > > estate as I > > > > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife > > during her > > > > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our > > friend > > > > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection > > to my > > > > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her > > death > > > > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > > > > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand > > and > > > > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > > > > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > > > > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > > > > John Henry > > > > > A. Gebney > > > > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > > > > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. > > Beatty, > > > > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. > > Gebney, > > > > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to > > be > > > > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > > > > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > > > > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, > > exor. and > > > > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James > > Beatty, > > > > > deceased. > > > > > > > > > > List of debts: > > > > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > > > > (few of interest): > > > > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > > > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > > > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > > > > Fayette clerk's fee > > > > > Clerk Louisville court > > > > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > > > > >(2 pages) > > > > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > > > > > > > Dan Bradford > > > > > Jer'h Kertley > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Donna L-3 > > > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > > > > A powerful search engine.... 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The H. Beatty Obituary I just posted was not found online, but I was glad to find this one, because the faded speckled copy was difficult to read. I was given that copy in 1990 by a local Beatty family we did not know and could not connect with in any way until I became familiar with some of the names in Lineage 134. Obviously, the "H" is for Hiram, and not Henry, and this is the same man. The Heritage Pursuit website administered by Alan L. Potts is a very useful site. The "POTTS" family has followed both sides of my family, I believe! I think they are also related to the POTTERS, because in Pennsylvania there is a Pottsville, a Pottstown, a Potter's Brook, a Potter Brooks, and in our Capital, there is the beautiful Potters Field. Maybe some of you have already seen this biography. I copied it off the website at the same time I was having a phone conversation! It just so happened that right after we connected, Sue Knost was getting ready to go out of town for ten days. I believe she is going to Ohio, so maybe she will learn some more pieces of family history while visiting her family. She might be sorry, though, to come up north and get caught in our Winter Storm Warning weather that is supposed to last for a while! http://www.heritagepursuit.com/index.html Lois Kortering L-39, soon merging with L-134 ________________________________________ COMMEMORATIVE HISTORICAL AND BIOGRAPHICAL RECORD of WOOD COUNTY, OHIO, Its Past and Present, Chicago: J.H. Beers & Co., 1897 1016 - WOOD COUNTY, OHIO HIRAM BEATTY, one of the leading and influential citizens of Henry township, whose honorable life record well entitles him to the regard in which he is held, and makes him worthy of representation in his county's history, was born in Millport, Stark Co., Ohio, August 23, 1836. His father, John Beatty, was a native of Pennsylvania, and was a carpenter by occupation. When a child of ten years he went with his parents to Massillon, which was then an unbroken wilderness. The grandfather, James Beatty, afterward entered more than 200 acres of land from the government four miles north from Massillon, and while living on that farm was killed by a runaway horse in the summer of 1849. He had a brother, John, who served in the war of 1812, and was the father of Gen. Samuel Beatty, of the army of the Cumberland in the Civil war. The father of our subject was reared to manhood in Ohio, and wedded Mary A. Ottinger, a native of Stark county, where they lived until 1854, the father working at his trade. He then removed with his family to Seneca county, Ohio, where he purchased 120 acres of land and carried on farming until his death, March 7, 1877. His wife died on the 9th of June of the same year. In the family were ten children: Hiram; Sylvester, who was killed at the battle of Stone River, September 30, 1862; Henry, who was in the three-months' service as a member of the 21st O. V. I., and is now a farmer of Sandusky county, Ohio; Hannah, wife of Cyrus Solomon, of Henry township; Sarah Rebecca, who died at the age of three years; Mary Melissa, who died at the age of one year; James, of Henry township; Emily, widow of Frank Frazier, of Cygnet, Ohio; John, a farmer of Henry county, Ohio; and Laura, wife of Lorin Myers, of Hammansburg, Ohio. The educational privileges of our subject were limited to the opportunities afforded by the common schools. He early began life as a farm hand, receiving about $10 per month for his services. In the spring of 1857 he went to Illinois, working on a farm near Mendota through the summer. He was there married, on February 11, 1858, to Delilah Jane Willford, a native of Wayne county, Ohio, born April 15, 1834, and in September, 1858, returned with his wife to this State, locating in Jackson township, Seneca county, where he purchased forty acres of land of ex-Governor Foster, residing upon that place until the fall of 1866. In 1862 Mr. Beatty enlisted in Company K, 101st O. V. I., under Capt. Noble, and went to the front, where he remained until the close of the war. On March 10, 1864, he received a twenty-five-days' furlough to return home for private business; the furlough stated that for efficient service rendered at the battle of Stone River he was promoted to the rank of second sergeant, acquiring same after eighteen months of service. He was slightly wounded in the right knee at Stone River, and was mustered out at Nashville, June 21, 1865. Immediately after he returned home, and in the fall of 1866 removed to Wood county, locating on seventy-six acres of partially improved land in Center township, where he lived for five years. He then sold and purchased fifty acres in Freedom township, whereon he also remained five years. Again he disposed of his property, removing to Henry township, and there purchasing eighty acres of land for $3,800. When five and a half years had passed, he bought h! is present farm of eighty acres, a valuable property, on which he has developed five oil wells, and his wife also has three oil wells on a ten-acre tract which she owns. He has purchased seventy-two acres in Section 30, Henry township, and his wife seventy-six and a half acres in Section 36, Jackson township. To Mr. and Mrs. Beatty have been born the following children: Elnora, born December 2, 1860, is the wife of Joshua Jimison, of Hammans- WOOD COUNTY, OHIO - 1017 burg, and has six children-Perry, born September 11, 1879; Elma, December 29, 1880; Ora, July 29, 1884; Carl, September 7, 1886; Lloyd, April 9, 1890; and Ollie, June 19, 1892. Ardella, born February 22, 1862, is the wife of Charles Auverter, of Henry township. Clara, born December 31, 1864, is the wife of Andrew Jimison, and has two children-Corna Viola, born in April, 1885, and Hiram Emery, born in 1891. Tibbie, born March 18, 1867, married Melvin Dirk, and died in North Baltimore, November 19, 1890, leaving one child-Glena Lenore, born October 25, 1889, who lives with our subject. Estella, born October 24, 1870, is the wife of Charles M. Tirk, of Henry township, and has one child-Jessie Mabel, born December 7, 1891. Mary A., born September 1, 1873, is the wife of Fowler House, of Hammansburg. Emma J., born February 19, 1877, died in 1880 at the age of two years and ten months. In politics Mr. Beatty is a stanch Republican, and an active worker in his party. He was elected township trustee in 1880 for one year, again in 1889 for a three-years' term, in 1892 for a three-years' term, and in 1894 for a similiar period, The prompt and efficient manner in which he discharges his duties has won him high commendation, and the community accounts him one of its valued citizens.

I have to say it is awesome to see families connecting. Hopefully there will be more including mine <g> Sarah Beattie L107

I have Baity in 1700's, Beaty 1700's, Beatty 1800's, Beattie in 1800's to present. My family pronounces our name BEEttie. Sarah Beattie L107

The date, publication, and author are unknown, but it is probably a local history book about Massillon, Stark County, Ohio. A copy of the article was given to me in 1990 by a local Beatty family that I did not think was related until a few days ago. CITY OF MASSILLON, page 659 H. BEATTY, coal business, Massillon; was born in Franklin Co., Penn., Dec. 16 1816, the fifth of a family of eight children, born to James and Mary (Kate) Beatty. James was born in the north of Ireland and settled in Baltimore, having four sons: James, John, Robert , and Hugh. The Beatty family came west in 1818, located in Kendal, but afterward moved across the river on to Judge Henry's farm, where they lived thirteen years, and then, moved to Lawrence Twp., where he had purchased land, and lived there until his death, which occurred in 1848; his wife died when our subject was small. They had a family of ten children, eight of whom grew to maturity: George, John, Hannah, James, Henry, Sarah, Jonathan, and Mary. Our subject had but poor school advantages, and remained at home until he was 21 years of age; he then learned the coopers' trade in Jackson Twp., at which he worked until 1850, running a shop of his own, when he went to California and worked at mining; returning in 1852, he engaged in the grocery and provision business, at which he continued twenty-seven years, retiring from the same in 1880. For several years past, Mr. Beatty has been engaged in the coal business. He was married in 1853 to Agnes Tinkler, born in England, and died in 1871, leaving three children: Harry T., Orrin C., and Mary E. He married, as his second wife, Jane Roberts, born in Indiana Co., Penn., whose parents were from England. He is a member of all the Masonic organizations, and has been interested in the political issues of the day, being a true Republican.

Yes, Donna, and Henry was m. 1st to Agnes R. Tinkler and 2nd, to Jane Roberts (Jennie?). The local Beatty man back in 1990 had given me a hand-drawn pedigree chart, but I didn't remember until yesterday that he got it from his father. BEATTY BLOODLINE Gen. 1. James Beaty, L-134 has him b. abt. 1757, Ireland. The Beatty man did not have this James, but he was in one of the two biographies he also gave me. His pedigree chart started here: Gen. 2. James Beatty, Northern Ireland ( -1849): had a brother John Beatty, War of 1812, father of Gen. Samuel Beatty, Army of the Cumberland. Gen. 3. John Beatty (18 brothers & sisters), Massillon, Ohio ( -1877) John ^3 is one of these children of James and his two wives: George (Sue Knost of L-134), John, himself (Julie Miller of L-134 and this man from Muskegon), Infant, James Lewis (Me, Lois Kortering, L-39), Infant, Henry (The obit., which is confusing), Hannah, Sarah Ann, Jonathan, Mary, and then by second wife, Infant, Lavina, Clinton (d. young), Lewis (d. y), Perry (d. y). and L-134) Gen. 4. Rowland D. Beatty (1 sister), Rudolph, Ohio (1896-1961) I saw a Rowland in something that you put on the list a few days ago, and I think he wasn't a great character, but it was an much earlier Rowland! Gen. 5. Two living sons, one born in Tecumseh, MI, one born in Findlay, Ohio (My generation) Gen. 6. Two sons, one daughter. One of the sons is who gave me the pages through his wife. I never met him but I have talked to his wife several times. I have talked to her many times. His parents moved to Jackson Co., MI six years ago and they live jost down the road from where my own grandfather on my father's side was born and where his whole family lived after leaving Onondaga Co. and Ellicottville Co., NY. I added this: Gen. 7. Children of Gen. 6 There was another long biography which is also online under Wood County, Ohio--good thing because I couldn't read this one too well! The subject of the biography was Hiram Beatty. His father was John and his mother was Mary A. Ottinger, a native of Stark Co. His grandfather was James, "Who was killed by a runaway horse in 1849." So Hiram must have been a brother of Gen. Samuel. Hiram was b. in Millport, Stark Co., OH, 23 Aug. 1836, lived in Henry Twp. I will put the two biographies on the site so they are easier to read. Those old bios are difficult to read, unless they keep reminding us just who the subject of the bio is, right? Yes, this seems to be our Beatty/Beaty family, but it will start growing more, now! Lois Kortering ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Massillon, Stark, Ohio > Is this Henry L-134? Of the obit? > > 1840 "STARK CO > OHIO > LAWRENCE TWP" BEATTY "JOHN > Age & Sex As Listed > M 2 (20-30); > M 1 (15-20); > M 2 (UNDER 5); > F 1 (20-30);" > 1840 "STARK CO > OHIO > LAWRENCE TWP" BEATTY "GEORGE > Age & Sex As Listed > M 2 (20-30); > F 1 (20-30); > F 1 (10-15)" > 1840 "STARK CO > OHIO > LAWRENCE TWP" BEATTY "JAMES > Age & Sex As Listed > M 1 (50-60); > M 1 (20-30); > M 1 (15-20); > M 2 (5-10); > F 1 (40-50); > F 32 (10-15)" > > > 1880-Massillon, Stark, Ohio > Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 Page 156A > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Henry BEATTY Self M M W 62 PA > Occ: Coal Operator Fa: MD Mo: PA > Jennie BEATTY Wife F M W 34 PA > Occ: Keeps House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG > O. Charles BEATTY Son M S W 22 OH > Occ: Law Student Fa: PA Mo: ENG > Mary E. BEATTY Dau F S W 17 OH > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: ENG > Mary OHLMAN Other F S W 17 OH > Occ: Servant Fa: BADEN Mo: OH > Henry IHLER Other M S W 54 PA > Occ: Gardener Fa: PA Mo: PA > > > 1880-Brady, Williams, Ohio > Source: FHL Film 1255077 National Archives Film T9-1077 Page 498D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > George BEATY Self M M W 71 PA > Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA > Mary Jane BEATY Wife F M W 61 PA > Occ: Housekeeping Fa: PA Mo: PA > Emiline BEATY Dau F S W 33 OH > Occ: Housekeeping Fa: PA Mo: PA > Ida BEATY Niece F W 15 OH > Occ: Housekeeping Fa: PA Mo: PA > > > Census Place: Jackson, Stark, Ohio > Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 Page 446B > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Johathen BEATTY Self M M W 59 OH > Occ: Engineer Fa: PA Mo: PA > Caroline BEATTY Wife F M W 42 OH > Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA > James B. BEATTY Son M S W 29 OH > Occ: Apprentice Miller Fa: OH Mo: OH > Miron J. BEATTY Son M S W 13 OH > Occ: At School Fa: OH Mo: OH > Malissa SHOUP Niece F S W 21 MI > Fa: OH Mo: OH > "Cemetery Records of Stark County, Ohio" compiled, edited, indexed and > with a foreword by Dorothy Sommer, Head, Reference Division Canton > Public Library Association, sponsored by Stark County Historical > Society, 1955 > > > Page 829 > Massillon City Cemetery > > Beatty, Agnes died June 26, 1871 aged 39 years, 2 m, 25 days, wife of > Henry Beatty > Beatty, Carrie G. died Sept. 9, 1871 age 11 mo, 9d, dau of S. & S. > Beatty > Beatty, Georgie died Jan 29, 1867 age 6mo, 6d, son of S. &. S. Beatty > Beatty, Jonathan Co. D. 13 O. V. I. (GAR) > Beatty, Gen. Samuel died May 26, 1885 age 65 years (GAR), Susan V. same > stone > Beatty, Susan V. died May 13, 1881 age 44 years, wife of Gen Samuel > Beatty (same stone) > Beaty, Anna died Jan 10, 1842 age 43y wife of James Beaty > Beaty, Clinton died May 31, 1871 age 37y, 2m, 24days > Beaty, infant no dates son of J. & A. Beaty; Lewis, Perry same stone > Beaty, James died Aug 19, 1849 age 67 years, 2m, 17days > Beaty, John H. died Aug. 23, 1839 age 7mo, 18da, son of G. & M. Beaty > Beaty, Lewis died Oct. 1835 age not given, son of J. & A. Beaty > Beaty, Mary died Jan. 10, 1825 age 38y, 5m, wife of James Beaty > Beaty, Perry died Nov. 1838 age 8mo, son of J. & A. Beaty, Lewis & > infant same stone > Beaty, Samuel died Aug. 24, 1842 age 1y, 11m, 2d; son of G. & M. Beaty > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Massillon, Stark, Ohio > > > > My email is very slow today--I am just now getting messages from this > morning. > > I still haven't gotten the message that I sent but I got this one from > Donna and > > decided to transcribe the article. I was wrong about Kentucky--just goes > to > > show, always look at the original source if you can! > > > > The Massillon Independent (Massillon, Ohio) May 15, 1899 > > Mr. Beatty Dead > > Funeral Services to be Held Friday Afternoon > > Eighty-Three Years Old > > Mr. Beatty spent practically his entire life in Kendal, Massillon, and > vicinity > > --He was a native of Pennsylvania. > > Henry Beatty, another of Massillon's oldest and most honored residents, > passed > > away with the close of day whose break had found his friend and fellow > citizen > > of many years, Robert H. Folger, no longer among the living. Mr. Beatty > was > > conscious to the very last. Death, which was caused by the infirmities > and > > complications which come with advanced age, occurred shortly after 8 > o'clock. > > The funeral services will be conducted by Massillon Commandery, Knights > Templar > > at the residence at 275 East main Street, at 2 o'clock Friday afternoon. > > Mr. Beatty was a son of James and Mary Beatty, and was born in Franklin > County, > > Pennsylvania on December 16, 1816, the fifth of eight children. The > family came > > west in 1818, locating first in Kendal, but later moving across the river. > > Afterwards they took up residence in Lawrence township. Mr. Beatty's > > educational advantages were few, but he made the most of them. He > remained at > > home until he reached his 21st year, then he went to Jackson Township, > where he > > learned the trade of Cooper, at which he worked until 1850, operating a > shop of > > his own a greater part of the time. > > In 1850 he went to California, where he worked in the mines for two years, > > returning to Massillon in 1852 and engaging in the grocery business. Mr. > Beatty > > also was identified with the coal trade for many years, locating several > large > > territories in this district. He retired from active business life in > 1880. > > Mr. Beatty's store was in his brick block in which the business of Messrs. > > Schwalm & Doll are now located. Mr. Beatty always retained possession of > this > > building. > > Mr. Beatty was married to Agnes Tinkler in Massillon in 1853. Mrs. Beatty > died > > in 1871, leaving three children -- Harry T. and Miss Mary E. Beatty of > Massillon > > and Orrin C. Beatty of Cleveland. Mr. Beatty's second marriage took place > in > > 1873, when Jane Roberts of Massillon became his wife. She survives him. > > Two brothers and a sister survive Mr. Beatty -- George age 91 years, of > Williams > > County; Jonathan of Crystal Spring and Mrs. Mary McLaughlin of Williams > County. > > > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donna VanZandt wrote: > > > > > Laurel, > > > That looks interesting. Is it this one? I'm interested. Any OH. Donna > L-3 > > > > > > 1880-Massillon, Stark, Ohio > > > > > > Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 > > > Page 156A > > > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age > > > Birthplace > > > > > > Henry BEATTY Self M M W 62 > PA > > > > > > Occ: Coal Operator Fa: MD Mo: PA > > > > > > Jennie BEATTY Wife F M W 34 > > > PA > > > > > > Occ: Keeps House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG > > > > > > O. Charles BEATTY Son M S W 22 > OH > > > > > > Occ: Law Student Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > > > > > Mary E. BEATTY Dau F S W 17 > OH > > > > > > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > > > > > Mary OHLMAN Other F S W 17 > OH > > > > > > Occ: Servant Fa: BADEN Mo: OH > > > > > > Henry IHLER Other M S W 54 PA > > > > > > Occ: Gardener Fa: PA Mo: PA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> > > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:28 PM > > > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > > > Has anyone seen the death notice/Biography of Henry Beatty on > Ancestry.com > > > in the newspaper section? {May 15, 1899, Massillion Indep.} > > > > There is a lot of interesting information in this bio. It states that > he > > > was born in Franklin Co, PA on Dec. 16, 1816 the fifth of 8 children. > The > > > family came west in 1818 locating first in KY but later moving across > the > > > river." I can transcribe this if anyone is interested. There are also > > > about 10 or so other mentions of Henry in the same paper, different > dates. > > > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > > > > > Lois wrote: > > > > > > > > > Donna and BP Listers, > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my > mother > > > were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our > > > James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even > found > > > his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County > was > > > formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our > James > > > IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in > > > Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has > been > > > very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still > like to > > > question and wonder. > > > > > > > > > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to > Kentucky, > > > but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the > > > grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland > > > when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and > Robert, > > > not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My > > > James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who > was > > > one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had > > > listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was > trying to > > > get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but > his > > > siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had > > > written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating > condition, > > > and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived > with > > > his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his > wife > > > died in 1874. > > > > > > > > > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to > the > > > family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he > was > > > 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He > and > > > his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this > > > country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. > We > > > might still be looking for a fourth James. > > > > > > > > > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. > The > > > 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he > would > > > have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out > > > correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted > in > > > 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a > year > > > after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > > > > > > > > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to > > > understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if > anyone > > > in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask > how > > > do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there > > > were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on > the > > > internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in > the > > > state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got > an > > > exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a > marriage > > > record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December > 1840. > > > The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married > Ann > > > Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his > > > birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or > > > Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. > Bea(t)y > > > signed as having witn! > > > > es! > > > > > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the > names > > > Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > > > > > > > > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty > > > copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who > > > wrote "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered > the > > > 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had > > > their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the > time > > > of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an > > > office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. > Asbury's > > > Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > > > > > > > > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > > > > > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky > about > > > 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It > was > > > located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site > now > > > occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The > Federal > > > Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part > > > includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in > > > concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a > short > > > distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is > in > > > the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > > > > > > > > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned > in > > > connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married > Daniel > > > Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know > for > > > certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is > this > > > Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is > difficult > > > to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in > 1792. > > > Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > > > > > > > > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a > > > Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the > generation > > > before ours. > > > > > > > > > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was > born > > > in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. > Joseph > > > County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley > > > more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his > > > pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, > Alabama, > > > Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were > > > related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley > was > > > a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had > written > > > in one of his letters. > > > > > > > > > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have > > > e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon > > > Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he > got > > > from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a > newspaper > > > article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he > gave > > > me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the > > > great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my > > > great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date > (1849) > > > of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH > and > > > died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 > > > believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first > wife, > > > Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died > > > young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a > > > census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more ch! > > > > il! > > > > > dren that way. > > > > > > > > > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of > > > Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the > > > article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary > > > (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born > in > > > the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - > James, > > > John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same > "City of > > > Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary > > > (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames > of > > > "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > > > > > > > > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, > > > Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I > look > > > at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the > > > Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, > pages > > > 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born > 13 > > > Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > > Joshua > > > > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our > politics. > > > There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname > LEWIS > > > in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, > just > > > like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the > > > "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I > > > have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has > not > > > been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his > name > > > to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if > there is > > > a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV > > > until further notice? > > > > > > > > > > Lois Kortering > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > > > > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > > > > > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > Fayette co., KY > > > > > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > > > > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > > > > > > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to > > > mind the > > > > > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and > ordain > > > this > > > > > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct > > > that my > > > > > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that > all > > > my just > > > > > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every > > > description > > > > > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and > > > appoint > > > > > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter > acquire, > > > my > > > > > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I > may > > > have > > > > > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die > > > possessed of > > > > > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will > being > > > to > > > > > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such > > > estate as I > > > > > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife > > > during her > > > > > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been > our > > > friend > > > > > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and > protection > > > to my > > > > > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at > her > > > death > > > > > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that > may > > > > > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my > hand > > > and > > > > > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > > > > > John Henry > > > > > > A. Gebney > > > > > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > > > > > > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > > > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Robt. > > > Beatty, > > > > > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. > > > Gebney, > > > > > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered > to > > > be > > > > > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > > > > > > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > > > > > > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, > > > exor. and > > > > > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James > > > Beatty, > > > > > > deceased. > > > > > > > > > > > > List of debts: > > > > > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > > > > > (few of interest): > > > > > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > > > > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > > > > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > > > > > Fayette clerk's fee > > > > > > Clerk Louisville court > > > > > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > > > > > >(2 pages) > > > > > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan Bradford > > > > > > Jer'h Kertley > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > Donna L-3 > > > > > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > > > > > A powerful search engine.... 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Is this Henry L-134? Of the obit? 1840 "STARK CO OHIO LAWRENCE TWP" BEATTY "JOHN Age & Sex As Listed M 2 (20-30); M 1 (15-20); M 2 (UNDER 5); F 1 (20-30);" 1840 "STARK CO OHIO LAWRENCE TWP" BEATTY "GEORGE Age & Sex As Listed M 2 (20-30); F 1 (20-30); F 1 (10-15)" 1840 "STARK CO OHIO LAWRENCE TWP" BEATTY "JAMES Age & Sex As Listed M 1 (50-60); M 1 (20-30); M 1 (15-20); M 2 (5-10); F 1 (40-50); F 32 (10-15)" 1880-Massillon, Stark, Ohio Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 Page 156A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry BEATTY Self M M W 62 PA Occ: Coal Operator Fa: MD Mo: PA Jennie BEATTY Wife F M W 34 PA Occ: Keeps House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG O. Charles BEATTY Son M S W 22 OH Occ: Law Student Fa: PA Mo: ENG Mary E. BEATTY Dau F S W 17 OH Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: ENG Mary OHLMAN Other F S W 17 OH Occ: Servant Fa: BADEN Mo: OH Henry IHLER Other M S W 54 PA Occ: Gardener Fa: PA Mo: PA 1880-Brady, Williams, Ohio Source: FHL Film 1255077 National Archives Film T9-1077 Page 498D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace George BEATY Self M M W 71 PA Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Mary Jane BEATY Wife F M W 61 PA Occ: Housekeeping Fa: PA Mo: PA Emiline BEATY Dau F S W 33 OH Occ: Housekeeping Fa: PA Mo: PA Ida BEATY Niece F W 15 OH Occ: Housekeeping Fa: PA Mo: PA Census Place: Jackson, Stark, Ohio Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 Page 446B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Johathen BEATTY Self M M W 59 OH Occ: Engineer Fa: PA Mo: PA Caroline BEATTY Wife F M W 42 OH Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA James B. BEATTY Son M S W 29 OH Occ: Apprentice Miller Fa: OH Mo: OH Miron J. BEATTY Son M S W 13 OH Occ: At School Fa: OH Mo: OH Malissa SHOUP Niece F S W 21 MI Fa: OH Mo: OH "Cemetery Records of Stark County, Ohio" compiled, edited, indexed and with a foreword by Dorothy Sommer, Head, Reference Division Canton Public Library Association, sponsored by Stark County Historical Society, 1955 Page 829 Massillon City Cemetery Beatty, Agnes died June 26, 1871 aged 39 years, 2 m, 25 days, wife of Henry Beatty Beatty, Carrie G. died Sept. 9, 1871 age 11 mo, 9d, dau of S. & S. Beatty Beatty, Georgie died Jan 29, 1867 age 6mo, 6d, son of S. &. S. Beatty Beatty, Jonathan Co. D. 13 O. V. I. (GAR) Beatty, Gen. Samuel died May 26, 1885 age 65 years (GAR), Susan V. same stone Beatty, Susan V. died May 13, 1881 age 44 years, wife of Gen Samuel Beatty (same stone) Beaty, Anna died Jan 10, 1842 age 43y wife of James Beaty Beaty, Clinton died May 31, 1871 age 37y, 2m, 24days Beaty, infant no dates son of J. & A. Beaty; Lewis, Perry same stone Beaty, James died Aug 19, 1849 age 67 years, 2m, 17days Beaty, John H. died Aug. 23, 1839 age 7mo, 18da, son of G. & M. Beaty Beaty, Lewis died Oct. 1835 age not given, son of J. & A. Beaty Beaty, Mary died Jan. 10, 1825 age 38y, 5m, wife of James Beaty Beaty, Perry died Nov. 1838 age 8mo, son of J. & A. Beaty, Lewis & infant same stone Beaty, Samuel died Aug. 24, 1842 age 1y, 11m, 2d; son of G. & M. Beaty Laurel Baty, L252 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Massillon, Stark, Ohio > My email is very slow today--I am just now getting messages from this morning. > I still haven't gotten the message that I sent but I got this one from Donna and > decided to transcribe the article. I was wrong about Kentucky--just goes to > show, always look at the original source if you can! > > The Massillon Independent (Massillon, Ohio) May 15, 1899 > Mr. Beatty Dead > Funeral Services to be Held Friday Afternoon > Eighty-Three Years Old > Mr. Beatty spent practically his entire life in Kendal, Massillon, and vicinity > --He was a native of Pennsylvania. > Henry Beatty, another of Massillon's oldest and most honored residents, passed > away with the close of day whose break had found his friend and fellow citizen > of many years, Robert H. Folger, no longer among the living. Mr. Beatty was > conscious to the very last. Death, which was caused by the infirmities and > complications which come with advanced age, occurred shortly after 8 o'clock. > The funeral services will be conducted by Massillon Commandery, Knights Templar > at the residence at 275 East main Street, at 2 o'clock Friday afternoon. > Mr. Beatty was a son of James and Mary Beatty, and was born in Franklin County, > Pennsylvania on December 16, 1816, the fifth of eight children. The family came > west in 1818, locating first in Kendal, but later moving across the river. > Afterwards they took up residence in Lawrence township. Mr. Beatty's > educational advantages were few, but he made the most of them. He remained at > home until he reached his 21st year, then he went to Jackson Township, where he > learned the trade of Cooper, at which he worked until 1850, operating a shop of > his own a greater part of the time. > In 1850 he went to California, where he worked in the mines for two years, > returning to Massillon in 1852 and engaging in the grocery business. Mr. Beatty > also was identified with the coal trade for many years, locating several large > territories in this district. He retired from active business life in 1880. > Mr. Beatty's store was in his brick block in which the business of Messrs. > Schwalm & Doll are now located. Mr. Beatty always retained possession of this > building. > Mr. Beatty was married to Agnes Tinkler in Massillon in 1853. Mrs. Beatty died > in 1871, leaving three children -- Harry T. and Miss Mary E. Beatty of Massillon > and Orrin C. Beatty of Cleveland. Mr. Beatty's second marriage took place in > 1873, when Jane Roberts of Massillon became his wife. She survives him. > Two brothers and a sister survive Mr. Beatty -- George age 91 years, of Williams > County; Jonathan of Crystal Spring and Mrs. Mary McLaughlin of Williams County. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > > > > Donna VanZandt wrote: > > > Laurel, > > That looks interesting. Is it this one? I'm interested. Any OH. Donna L-3 > > > > 1880-Massillon, Stark, Ohio > > > > Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 > > Page 156A > > > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age > > Birthplace > > > > Henry BEATTY Self M M W 62 PA > > > > Occ: Coal Operator Fa: MD Mo: PA > > > > Jennie BEATTY Wife F M W 34 > > PA > > > > Occ: Keeps House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG > > > > O. Charles BEATTY Son M S W 22 OH > > > > Occ: Law Student Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > > > Mary E. BEATTY Dau F S W 17 OH > > > > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > > > Mary OHLMAN Other F S W 17 OH > > > > Occ: Servant Fa: BADEN Mo: OH > > > > Henry IHLER Other M S W 54 PA > > > > Occ: Gardener Fa: PA Mo: PA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > Has anyone seen the death notice/Biography of Henry Beatty on Ancestry.com > > in the newspaper section? {May 15, 1899, Massillion Indep.} > > > There is a lot of interesting information in this bio. It states that he > > was born in Franklin Co, PA on Dec. 16, 1816 the fifth of 8 children. The > > family came west in 1818 locating first in KY but later moving across the > > river." I can transcribe this if anyone is interested. There are also > > about 10 or so other mentions of Henry in the same paper, different dates. > > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > > > Lois wrote: > > > > > > > Donna and BP Listers, > > > > > > > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother > > were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our > > James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found > > his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was > > formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our James > > IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in > > Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has been > > very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still like to > > question and wonder. > > > > > > > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, > > but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the > > grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland > > when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and Robert, > > not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My > > James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who was > > one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had > > listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was trying to > > get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but his > > siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had > > written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating condition, > > and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived with > > his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his wife > > died in 1874. > > > > > > > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the > > family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he was > > 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He and > > his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this > > country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We > > might still be looking for a fourth James. > > > > > > > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The > > 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would > > have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out > > correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in > > 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year > > after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > > > > > > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to > > understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone > > in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask how > > do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there > > were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on the > > internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in the > > state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got an > > exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a marriage > > record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December 1840. > > The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married Ann > > Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his > > birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or > > Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. Bea(t)y > > signed as having witn! > > > es! > > > > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names > > Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > > > > > > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty > > copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who > > wrote "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the > > 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had > > their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time > > of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an > > office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's > > Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > > > > > > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > > > > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about > > 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It was > > located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site now > > occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The Federal > > Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part > > includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in > > concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short > > distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in > > the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > > > > > > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in > > connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel > > Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know for > > certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is this > > Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is difficult > > to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in 1792. > > Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > > > > > > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a > > Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation > > before ours. > > > > > > > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born > > in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph > > County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley > > more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his > > pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, Alabama, > > Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were > > related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley was > > a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had written > > in one of his letters. > > > > > > > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have > > e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon > > Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got > > from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper > > article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave > > me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the > > great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my > > great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) > > of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and > > died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 > > believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, > > Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died > > young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a > > census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more ch! > > > il! > > > > dren that way. > > > > > > > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of > > Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the > > article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary > > (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in > > the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, > > John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City of > > Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary > > (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames of > > "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > > > > > > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, > > Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look > > at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the > > Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages > > 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 > > Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > Joshua > > > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our politics. > > There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname LEWIS > > in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, just > > like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the > > "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I > > have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in > > them. > > > > > > > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not > > been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name > > to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there is > > a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV > > until further notice? > > > > > > > > Lois Kortering > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > > > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > > > > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Fayette co., KY > > > > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > > > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > > > > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to > > mind the > > > > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain > > this > > > > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct > > that my > > > > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all > > my just > > > > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every > > description > > > > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and > > appoint > > > > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, > > my > > > > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may > > have > > > > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die > > possessed of > > > > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being > > to > > > > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such > > estate as I > > > > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife > > during her > > > > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our > > friend > > > > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection > > to my > > > > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her > > death > > > > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > > > > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand > > and > > > > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > > > > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > > > > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > > > > John Henry > > > > > A. Gebney > > > > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > > > > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. > > Beatty, > > > > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. > > Gebney, > > > > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to > > be > > > > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > > > > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > > > > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, > > exor. and > > > > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James > > Beatty, > > > > > deceased. > > > > > > > > > > List of debts: > > > > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > > > > (few of interest): > > > > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > > > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > > > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > > > > Fayette clerk's fee > > > > > Clerk Louisville court > > > > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > > > > >(2 pages) > > > > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > > > > > > > Dan Bradford > > > > > Jer'h Kertley > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Donna L-3 > > > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > > > > A powerful search engine.... 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My email is very slow today--I am just now getting messages from this morning. I still haven't gotten the message that I sent but I got this one from Donna and decided to transcribe the article. I was wrong about Kentucky--just goes to show, always look at the original source if you can! The Massillon Independent (Massillon, Ohio) May 15, 1899 Mr. Beatty Dead Funeral Services to be Held Friday Afternoon Eighty-Three Years Old Mr. Beatty spent practically his entire life in Kendal, Massillon, and vicinity --He was a native of Pennsylvania. Henry Beatty, another of Massillon's oldest and most honored residents, passed away with the close of day whose break had found his friend and fellow citizen of many years, Robert H. Folger, no longer among the living. Mr. Beatty was conscious to the very last. Death, which was caused by the infirmities and complications which come with advanced age, occurred shortly after 8 o'clock. The funeral services will be conducted by Massillon Commandery, Knights Templar at the residence at 275 East main Street, at 2 o'clock Friday afternoon. Mr. Beatty was a son of James and Mary Beatty, and was born in Franklin County, Pennsylvania on December 16, 1816, the fifth of eight children. The family came west in 1818, locating first in Kendal, but later moving across the river. Afterwards they took up residence in Lawrence township. Mr. Beatty's educational advantages were few, but he made the most of them. He remained at home until he reached his 21st year, then he went to Jackson Township, where he learned the trade of Cooper, at which he worked until 1850, operating a shop of his own a greater part of the time. In 1850 he went to California, where he worked in the mines for two years, returning to Massillon in 1852 and engaging in the grocery business. Mr. Beatty also was identified with the coal trade for many years, locating several large territories in this district. He retired from active business life in 1880. Mr. Beatty's store was in his brick block in which the business of Messrs. Schwalm & Doll are now located. Mr. Beatty always retained possession of this building. Mr. Beatty was married to Agnes Tinkler in Massillon in 1853. Mrs. Beatty died in 1871, leaving three children -- Harry T. and Miss Mary E. Beatty of Massillon and Orrin C. Beatty of Cleveland. Mr. Beatty's second marriage took place in 1873, when Jane Roberts of Massillon became his wife. She survives him. Two brothers and a sister survive Mr. Beatty -- George age 91 years, of Williams County; Jonathan of Crystal Spring and Mrs. Mary McLaughlin of Williams County. Laurel Baty, L252 Donna VanZandt wrote: > Laurel, > That looks interesting. Is it this one? I'm interested. Any OH. Donna L-3 > > 1880-Massillon, Stark, Ohio > > Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 > Page 156A > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age > Birthplace > > Henry BEATTY Self M M W 62 PA > > Occ: Coal Operator Fa: MD Mo: PA > > Jennie BEATTY Wife F M W 34 > PA > > Occ: Keeps House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG > > O. Charles BEATTY Son M S W 22 OH > > Occ: Law Student Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > Mary E. BEATTY Dau F S W 17 OH > > Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: ENG > > Mary OHLMAN Other F S W 17 OH > > Occ: Servant Fa: BADEN Mo: OH > > Henry IHLER Other M S W 54 PA > > Occ: Gardener Fa: PA Mo: PA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > Has anyone seen the death notice/Biography of Henry Beatty on Ancestry.com > in the newspaper section? {May 15, 1899, Massillion Indep.} > > There is a lot of interesting information in this bio. It states that he > was born in Franklin Co, PA on Dec. 16, 1816 the fifth of 8 children. The > family came west in 1818 locating first in KY but later moving across the > river." I can transcribe this if anyone is interested. There are also > about 10 or so other mentions of Henry in the same paper, different dates. > > Laurel Baty, L252 > > > > Lois wrote: > > > > > Donna and BP Listers, > > > > > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother > were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our > James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found > his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was > formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our James > IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in > Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has been > very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still like to > question and wonder. > > > > > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, > but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the > grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland > when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and Robert, > not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My > James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who was > one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had > listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was trying to > get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but his > siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had > written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating condition, > and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived with > his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his wife > died in 1874. > > > > > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the > family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he was > 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He and > his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this > country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We > might still be looking for a fourth James. > > > > > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The > 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would > have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out > correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in > 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year > after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > > > > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to > understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone > in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask how > do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there > were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on the > internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in the > state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got an > exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a marriage > record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December 1840. > The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married Ann > Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his > birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or > Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. Bea(t)y > signed as having witn! > > es! > > > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names > Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > > > > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty > copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who > wrote "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the > 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had > their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time > of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an > office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's > Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > > > > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > > > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about > 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It was > located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site now > occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The Federal > Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part > includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in > concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short > distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in > the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > > > > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in > connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel > Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know for > certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is this > Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is difficult > to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in 1792. > Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > > > > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a > Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation > before ours. > > > > > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born > in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph > County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley > more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his > pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, Alabama, > Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were > related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley was > a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had written > in one of his letters. > > > > > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have > e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon > Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got > from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper > article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave > me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the > great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my > great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) > of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and > died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 > believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, > Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died > young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a > census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more ch! > > il! > > > dren that way. > > > > > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of > Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the > article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary > (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in > the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, > John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City of > Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary > (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames of > "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > > > > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, > Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look > at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the > Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages > 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 > Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > Joshua > > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our politics. > There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname LEWIS > in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, just > like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the > "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I > have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in > them. > > > > > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not > been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name > to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there is > a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV > until further notice? > > > > > > Lois Kortering > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > > > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Fayette co., KY > > > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to > mind the > > > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain > this > > > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct > that my > > > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all > my just > > > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every > description > > > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and > appoint > > > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, > my > > > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may > have > > > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die > possessed of > > > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being > to > > > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such > estate as I > > > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife > during her > > > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our > friend > > > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection > to my > > > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her > death > > > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > > > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand > and > > > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > > > John Henry > > > > A. Gebney > > > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. > Beatty, > > > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. > Gebney, > > > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to > be > > > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, > exor. and > > > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James > Beatty, > > > > deceased. > > > > > > > > List of debts: > > > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > > > (few of interest): > > > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > > > Fayette clerk's fee > > > > Clerk Louisville court > > > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > > > >(2 pages) > > > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > > > > > Dan Bradford > > > > Jer'h Kertley > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Donna L-3 > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > > > A powerful search engine.... Try it! > > > > > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > > Visit the BP2000 Web Page > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > **************************************** > BEATTY CENSUS PROJECT > BP2000 members are currently extracting > Beatty data from U.S. Census Records. We > need volunteers for research as well as > for recording the information in our > database. Write Ray Beatty <RCBDJR@AOL.COM> > if you can help.

Has anyone seen the death notice/Biography of Henry Beatty on Ancestry.com in the newspaper section? {May 15, 1899, Massillion Indep.} There is a lot of interesting information in this bio. It states that he was born in Franklin Co, PA on Dec. 16, 1816 the fifth of 8 children. The family came west in 1818 locating first in KY but later moving across the river." I can transcribe this if anyone is interested. There are also about 10 or so other mentions of Henry in the same paper, different dates. Laurel Baty, L252 Lois wrote: > Donna and BP Listers, > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our James IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has been very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still like to question and wonder. > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and Robert, not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who was one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was trying to get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but his siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating condition, and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived with his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his wife died in 1874. > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he was 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He and his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We might still be looking for a fourth James. > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask how do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on the internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in the state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got an exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a marriage record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December 1840. The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married Ann Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. Bea(t)y signed as having witn! es! > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who wrote "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It was located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site now occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The Federal Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know for certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is this Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is difficult to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in 1792. Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation before ours. > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, Alabama, Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley was a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had written in one of his letters. > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more ch! il! > dren that way. > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City of Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames of "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > Joshua > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our politics. There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname LEWIS in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, just like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in them. > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there is a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV until further notice? > > Lois Kortering > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fayette co., KY > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to mind the > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain this > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct that my > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all my just > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every description > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and appoint > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, my > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may have > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die possessed of > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being to > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such estate as I > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife during her > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our friend > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection to my > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her death > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > John Henry > > A. Gebney > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. Beatty, > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. Gebney, > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, exor. and > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James Beatty, > > deceased. > > > > List of debts: > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > (few of interest): > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > Fayette clerk's fee > > Clerk Louisville court > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > >(2 pages) > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > Dan Bradford > > Jer'h Kertley > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Donna L-3 > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > A powerful search engine.... Try it!

Laurel, That looks interesting. Is it this one? I'm interested. Any OH. Donna L-3 1880-Massillon, Stark, Ohio Source: FHL Film 1255067 National Archives Film T9-1067 Page 156A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry BEATTY Self M M W 62 PA Occ: Coal Operator Fa: MD Mo: PA Jennie BEATTY Wife F M W 34 PA Occ: Keeps House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG O. Charles BEATTY Son M S W 22 OH Occ: Law Student Fa: PA Mo: ENG Mary E. BEATTY Dau F S W 17 OH Occ: At School Fa: PA Mo: ENG Mary OHLMAN Other F S W 17 OH Occ: Servant Fa: BADEN Mo: OH Henry IHLER Other M S W 54 PA Occ: Gardener Fa: PA Mo: PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel Baty" <laurel.baty@verizon.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > Has anyone seen the death notice/Biography of Henry Beatty on Ancestry.com in the newspaper section? {May 15, 1899, Massillion Indep.} > There is a lot of interesting information in this bio. It states that he was born in Franklin Co, PA on Dec. 16, 1816 the fifth of 8 children. The family came west in 1818 locating first in KY but later moving across the river." I can transcribe this if anyone is interested. There are also about 10 or so other mentions of Henry in the same paper, different dates. > Laurel Baty, L252 > > Lois wrote: > > > Donna and BP Listers, > > > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our James IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has been very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still like to question and wonder. > > > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and Robert, not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who was one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was trying to get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but his siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating condition, and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived with his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his wife died in 1874. > > > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he was 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He and his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We might still be looking for a fourth James. > > > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask how do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on the internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in the state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got an exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a marriage record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December 1840. The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married Ann Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. Bea(t)y signed as having witn! > es! > > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who wrote "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It was located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site now occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The Federal Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know for certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is this Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is difficult to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in 1792. Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation before ours. > > > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, Alabama, Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley was a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had written in one of his letters. > > > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more ch! > il! > > dren that way. > > > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City of Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames of "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > Joshua > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our politics. There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname LEWIS in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, just like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in them. > > > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there is a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV until further notice? > > > > Lois Kortering > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Fayette co., KY > > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to mind the > > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain this > > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct that my > > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all my just > > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every description > > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and appoint > > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, my > > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may have > > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die possessed of > > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being to > > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such estate as I > > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife during her > > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our friend > > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection to my > > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her death > > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and > > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > > John Henry > > > A. Gebney > > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. Beatty, > > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. Gebney, > > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be > > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, exor. and > > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James Beatty, > > > deceased. > > > > > > List of debts: > > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > > (few of interest): > > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > > Fayette clerk's fee > > > Clerk Louisville court > > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > > >(2 pages) > > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > > > Dan Bradford > > > Jer'h Kertley > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Donna L-3 > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > > A powerful search engine.... Try it! > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Visit the BP2000 Web Page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ > >

KY county formation maps from 1776 to 1939 can be viewed here, sequentially or otherwise. http://www.segenealogy.com/kentucky/ky_maps/ky_cf.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <lekort@comcast.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > Donna and BP Listers, > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our James IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has been very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still like to question and wonder. > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and Robert, not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who was one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was trying to get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but his siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating condition, and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived with his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his wife died in 1874. > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he was 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He and his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We might still be looking for a fourth James. > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask how do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on the internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in the state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got an exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a marriage record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December 1840. The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married Ann Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. Bea(t)y signed as having witnes! > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who wrote "Col eman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It was located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site now occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The Federal Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know for certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is this Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is difficult to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in 1792. Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation before ours. > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, Alabama, Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley was a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had written in one of his letters. > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more chil! > dren that way. > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City of Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames of "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > Joshua > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our politics. There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname LEWIS in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, just like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in them. > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there is a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV until further notice? > > Lois Kortering > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fayette co., KY > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to mind the > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain this > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct that my > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all my just > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every description > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and appoint > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, my > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may have > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die possessed of > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being to > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such estate as I > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife during her > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our friend > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection to my > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her death > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > John Henry > > A. Gebney > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. Beatty, > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. Gebney, > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, exor. and > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James Beatty, > > deceased. > > > > List of debts: > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > (few of interest): > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > Fayette clerk's fee > > Clerk Louisville court > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > >(2 pages) > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > Dan Bradford > > Jer'h Kertley > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Donna L-3 > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > A powerful search engine.... Try it! > >

That Robert was very old and the James of this will is who I thought he might be connected with. From census I was wondering if he might have had a daughter who had married Benjamin W. Dudley and she was dead. That was just a guess and Benjamin has no wife in 1830. Donna L-3 1830 Fayette co., KY Lexington pg. 271 Rob't Beatty 1 m 10-15 1 m 60-70 1 f 40-50 (2 hh later) Doct'r Benj. W. Dudley 1 m und 5 1 m 5-10 1 m 40-50 1 f und 5 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx Will Records of Fayette County, Kentucky 1794-1818 Fayette County, Kentucky Will Records Book B Name: Thomas Lewis My wife, Elizabeth; Sons, Hector, Asa, Stephen, Thornton, Alphens, and Douglas; My daughters, Nancy Garrard, Sally Clay, Kitty Payne, and Sophia Lewis; My son in law, Jepthal Dudley; and my grandson, Edward Ambrose Dudley Written: April 25, 1809 Probated: October, 1809 Executors: My wife, Elizabeth; Henry Payne, Sr., Hector and Asa Lewis Witnesses: Levi Calvert, James Beatty, and Henry Payne XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:43 AM Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fayette co., KY > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to mind the > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain this > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct that my > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all my just > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every description > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and appoint > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, my > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may have > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die possessed of > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being to > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such estate as I > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife during her > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our friend > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection to my > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her death > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > Robert Beatty > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > John Henry > > A. Gebney > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > This writing purporing to be the last will and testament of Robt. Beatty, > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. Gebney, > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, exor. and > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James Beatty, > deceased. > > List of debts: > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > (few of interest: > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > Fayette clerk's fee > > Clerk Louisville court > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > > (2 pages) > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > Dan Bradford > > Jer'h Kertley > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Donna L-3 > > > > > > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > Visit the BP2000 Web Page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ > >

Donna and BP Listers, It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our James IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled in Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has been very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still like to question and wonder. It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and Robert, not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could develop. My James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing James," who was one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. Our James had listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years he was trying to get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only his children, but his siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and their spouses had written letters to the military to vouch for James' debilitating condition, and had signed their names on affidavits. He moved around and lived with his adult children for the last fourteen years of his life after his wife died in 1874. Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he was 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He and his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We might still be looking for a fourth James. There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask how do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that there were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done on the internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death record in the state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to know how we got an exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. I do have a marriage record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio on 14 December 1840. The marriage record states that he was "of lawful age" when he married Ann Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, then that also makes his birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding were: Hallabuud or Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence that James L. Bea(t)y signed as having witnes! sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty copied these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who wrote "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the 100-year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had their pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time of the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an office of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. Hazel quotes Coleman: "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It was located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site now occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The Federal Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which part includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know for certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, is this Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is difficult to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like in 1792. Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a Robert but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation before ours. Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born in Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, Alabama, Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors were related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. Dudley was a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty had written in one of his letters. A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have e-mailed Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon Beatty right here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got from his father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper article about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave me did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the great-great-grandfather of his father was a brother of my great-great-grandfather, James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) of my James' father, and his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and died in 1877. Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 believed, but there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, Anne Kehl, and 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died young, and, possibly a few children were in the other household during a census enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more chil! dren that way. The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City of Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames of "Polly, Molly, or Kate." Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, Martin, and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look at all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > Joshua > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our politics. There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the surname LEWIS in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone has a few, just like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of those, so the "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous Jesse James. I have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES and BEATTY in them. One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there is a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV until further notice? Lois Kortering ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fayette co., KY > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to mind the > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain this > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct that my > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all my just > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every description > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and appoint > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, my > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may have > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die possessed of > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being to > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such estate as I > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife during her > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our friend > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection to my > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her death > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > Robert Beatty > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > John Henry > A. Gebney > Geo. W. Dozier > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. Beatty, > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. Gebney, > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, exor. and > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James Beatty, > deceased. > > List of debts: > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > (few of interest): > Traveling expenses to Paris > Traveling expenses to Winchester > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > Fayette clerk's fee > Clerk Louisville court > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 >(2 pages) > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > Dan Bradford > Jer'h Kertley > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Donna L-3

Lois and all "of lawful age" in Ohio in the 1800's - was that really age 21? Where do we find that sort of info out? It seems that farm children where treated as adults at a much younger age than we impose now on children. I also had a similar conversation with someone about early wars and the age that one could enlist - I seem to remember that there were a lot of "minor" that ran off to join the war referring both to the Civil and Independence - how do we know just because they are listed that they were at least 18? I guess I would have to argue against changing the b-dates etc... unless you have something more concrete or more than one something that corroborates. On the subject of James -- there are tons and poor documentation for many I would not be quick to assume anything with this group (smile) Oh, and my Bettie family did marry into my Lewis family -- just much later generationally than you are looking for Bobbie > -----Original Message----- > From: Lois [mailto:lekort@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:36 PM > To: BP2000-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > Donna and BP Listers, > > It is interesting that my great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty and my mother > were convinced that this James Beatty (Below, Book O, page 238) was our > James Beatty II, who went to Fayette County in 1790, and Hazel even found > his grave, and made rubbings of the gravestone. I know Fayette County was > formed in 1792, and according to our "Story," it was the father of our > James IV who was born in Kentucky in 1791 a year after his parents settled > in Fayette County. I have already been told by Ray that this James has > been very well documented, so I am not trying to "Claim" him, but I still > like to question and wonder. > > It seems that none of the Beattys in Lineage 134 ever went to Kentucky, > but since we know nothing about the James we are going to be calling the > grandfather of my James IV--except the "Story" that he came from Ireland > when he was 2-4 years old and had four sons, Hugh, James, John, and > Robert, not even his wife's name--then, any surprising story could > develop. My James IV really does fit the description of their "Missing > James," who was one of the 13-18 children of James with his first wife. > Our James had listed all of the addresses where he lived during the years > he was trying to get a pension, and they were the towns where, not only > his children, but his siblings lived. Plus, a few of James' children and > their spouses had written letters to the military to vouch for James' > debilitating condition, and had signed their names on affidavits. He > moved around and lived with his adult children for the last fourteen years > of his life after his wife died in 1874. > > Now, it seems that my James' father who died in 1849, according to the > family legend of Lineage 134, was born in Ireland and came here when he > was 2-4 years old. We know nothing about the grandfather of my James. He > and his wife, or maybe not a wife, brought the father of my James to this > country after he was born in Ireland on 02 May 1782. who died in 1849. We > might still be looking for a fourth James. > > There is the question of the birth date of my James Lewis Beatty. The > 1813 date came from the 1880 census, but if he was born in 1813, he would > have been 50 years old when he enlisted. His date of birth works out > correctly to be 1819 knowing that he was 44 years old when he enlisted in > 1863. However, one of the affidavits a had his age at 52 in 1864, a year > after he enlisted, which would make his birth year 1812. > > I hate to bore everyone and keep going over this, but I am trying to > understand a few more things, and I do intend to try to find out if anyone > in our family has a birth record or a death record on James, and to ask > how do we know that his middle name was Lewis, and how do we know that > there were four with the same name? Just from the inquiring I have done > on the internet, it seems impossible to get a birth record or a death > record in the state of Ohio and in the state of Indiana, but I need to > know how we got an exact birth and death date for our James Lewis Beatty. > I do have a marriage record, and they were married in Mercer County, Ohio > on 14 December 1840. The marriage record states that he was "of lawful > age" when he married Ann Maria Wilcox. So if "Lawful Age" is 21 years, > then that also makes his birth date 1819. The witnesses at their wedding > were: Hallabuud or Hallabund H. Willcox (Spelled Hallaboo in the sentence > that James L. Bea(t)y signed as having witnes! > sed Hallabuud sign his name!). Under Hallabuud's name were the names > Jennine or Jennie J. Willcox (sic), and Jane Willcox (sic). > > Back to Kentucky for a minute. My great-aunt Hazel (Cowles) Beatty copied > these "Notes from the Editor," who must have been Mr. Coleman who wrote > "Coleman's History," and he must have been the writer who covered the 100- > year celebration, when ministers from all denominations met and had their > pictures taken standing around outside the Meeting House. At the time of > the centennial celebration, the original picture was hanging in an office > of the Narcotics Hospital. The story was written using Rev. Asbury's > Journal and Whatcoat's Journal. > > Hazel quotes Coleman: > "Richard Masterson moved from Virginia to Fayette County, Kentucky about > 1784(?) and erected the first Methodist Meeting House in the state. It > was located five miles northwest of Lexington, near Greendale on the site > now occupied by the U.S. Narcotic Hospital (Now a Federal Prison). The > Federal Government gave the east portion to Lexington for a park, which > part includes the site of the house. There is an Historical Marker set in > concrete on the site with a wire fence around it. The cemetery is a short > distance away. It contains James Beatty's grave among others. His is in > the N.. West corner, 2nd from the west wall and beside the north wall." > > This is not the first time that I have noticed Louisville mentioned in > connection with this James (below), whose daughter Barbara married Daniel > Spurr. Louisville is a long distance from Lexington. Does anyone know > for certain where this James (Below, Book O, page 238) is buried? Also, > is this Robert (Will Book O, page 223) the brother of this James? It is > difficult to find a map that shows exactly what Fayette County looked like > in 1792. Did it encompass Louisville, as well as, Lexington? > > Now that our L-39 will be merging with L-134, we are looking for a Robert > but the Robert below (Will Book O, page 223) has to be the generation > before ours. > > Here is a surprising observation. Our James Lewis Beatty, who was born in > Stark County, Ohio on 20 Nov. 1819 and died in South Bend, St. Joseph > County, Indiana on 17 Oct. 1888, was examined by a Dr. William W. Dudley > more than a few times during the 22 years that he was trying to get his > pension, and James was in Field Hospitals in Lexington, Louisville, > Alabama, Tennessee, Iowa, and Georgia. It could be that the two doctors > were related, possibly brothers, but I understood that Dr. William W. > Dudley was a military doctor from the "Pension House," as James L. Beatty > had written in one of his letters. > > A very surprising thing happened a couple of days ago and I have e-mailed > Sue Knost and Julie Miller about it. I remembered a Muskegon Beatty right > here in our town and I searched for the 10-12 pages that he got from his > father to give to me back in 1991 or 1992. I had seen a newspaper article > about him, and later, I met his wife. The names on the pages he gave me > did not mean much to me back then, but I know now, that the great-great- > grandfather of his father was a brother of my great-great-grandfather, > James Lewis Beatty! He had the death date (1849) of my James' father, and > his John was born in Massillon, Stark Co., OH and died in 1877. > Supposedly, there were 18 children, which is what L-134 believed, but > there seems to be only 13 children, 8 by James' first wife, Anne Kehl, and > 5 with his second wife, Anna Clayman. Possibly some died young, and, > possibly a few children were in the other household during a census > enumeration, and researchers picked up a few more chil! > dren that way. > > The local family has a copy of a biography published in the "City of > Massillon," and "H. Beatty," born 16 Dec. 1816, was the subject of the > article. Henry was he 5th in a family of 8 children of James and Mary > (Kate) Beatty. The next sentence in this biography is "James was born in > the north of Ireland, and settled in Baltimore, having four sons - James, > John, Robert, and Hugh." Lineage 134 must have always had the same "City > of Massillon" biography of H. Beatty. I guess Anne Marie (Kehl) and Mary > (Kate) could be one and the same woman, and she could have had nicknames > of "Polly, Molly, or Kate." > > Our family has grabbed onto the given names of Clinton, Clements, Martin, > and Lewis, thinking that they could be maiden names, but when I look at > all of the "BATES" Families in the book "HISTORY and GENEALOGY of the > Families of Chesterfield, Massachusetts, 1762-1962 by Ruth A. Baker, pages > 37-42, there were three generations before Solomon Bates, who was born 13 > Aprl 1706, and these were given names of the generations before : > > Joshua > Joseph > Clement, so the name Clement has nothing to do with our > politics. There was also an early Clinton. There are families with the > surname LEWIS in Ohio, but the name Lewis could, it seems that everyone > has a few, just like the name "Jesse James." We have more than a few of > those, so the "Story" gets started that we are related to the infamous > Jesse James. I have saved a few online trees with the two surnames JAMES > and BEATTY in them. > > One more thing bothering me. Since my James Lewis Beatty's name has not > been seen on any legal document spelled that way, should I change his name > to just James L. Beaty, or James L. Beaty III, until we find out if there > is a fourth James L. Beaty? Or do I just let him be James Lewie Beatty IV > until further notice? > > Lois Kortering > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna VanZandt" <donavan@netins.net> > To: <BP2000-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:43 AM > Subject: [BP2000] Fayette co., KY Will > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fayette co., KY > > Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 > > Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will > > > > Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to mind > the > > uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain > this > > my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct that > my > > body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all my > just > > debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every > description > > to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and > appoint > > my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, > my > > estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may > have > > claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die possessed > of > > so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being to > > give all my estate of every description and all interest in such estate > as I > > may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife during > her > > life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our > friend > > for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection > to my > > wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her > death > > that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may > > belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand > and > > seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. > > > > Robert Beatty > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: > > John Henry > > A. Gebney > > Geo. W. Dozier > > > > Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 > > > This writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Robt. > Beatty, > > deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. > Gebney, > > and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be > > recorded which is truly done in my office. > > > > AH JC Rodes, Clk. > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) > > > > The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, exor. > and > > Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James Beatty, > > deceased. > > > > List of debts: > > Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, > > (few of interest): > > Traveling expenses to Paris > > Traveling expenses to Winchester > > Bourbon co. clerk's fee > > Fayette clerk's fee > > Clerk Louisville court > > Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 > >(2 pages) > > Verified correct-22 July 1839 > > > > Dan Bradford > > Jer'h Kertley > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Donna L-3 > > > > > ==== BP2000 Mailing List ==== > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > The Threaded Mail List Archiver at RootsWeb > A powerful search engine.... Try it!

Benjamin Batey is a son of Captain William Batey, Revolutionary War Soldier, Rutherford County, Tennessee (L64). This is a huge file; a true wealth of information for anyone interested in Rutherford County, Tennessee. It includes the testimony of many neighbors and former slaves of Benjamin Batey. I copied only a very small portion of the file. I will transcribe verbatim the following record contained within the larger file: Estate of Benjamin Batey vs. the United States Congressional No. 4419 Brief For Claimant On Loyalty This is a claim wherein the Southern Claims Commission held loyalty not proved, because the then evidence was not satisfactory; because the now decedent had two sons in the insurgent army, and because, as a justice of the peace, he presumably took an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy and did disloyal official acts. The evidence on loyalty consists of three depositions taken in 1872 for the Claims Commission, and five taken in 1898 for the Court of Claims. Description of the Witness Batey, Benjamin, claimant, now deceased; 59 when war began; 70 when testified in 1872; large, rich farmer, five miles from Smyrna, Rutherford County, Tenn.; a Whig before war; well-read man, of high reputation and esteem in locality. See page 1 of abstract for testimony. Batey, Thos. R.; grandson of decedent, but not interested because otherwise provided for in will of decedent; orphan inmate of family of decedent before and during war; 11 when war began, and 48 when he testified in 1898. See page 14 of abstract for testimony. Bennett, J. M.; three mile neighbor, intimately acquainted, but not friendly during the war because of quarrel between decedent and father of witness; 31 when war began, and 68 when examined in 1898. See page 10 of abstract for testimony. Brown, Willie; two mile neighbor and long time intimate; 54 when war began; 65 when he testified in 1872, and 90 when he testified again in 1898. See page 3 for first testimony and page 5 of abstract for later testimony. Elder, Joshua W., near neighbor and intimate from of an old time; 63 when war began and 74 when testified in 1872. See page 3 of abstract for testimony. Rowlett, James C.; two mile neighbor and intimate; 33 when war began and 70 when testified in 1898. See page 6 of abstract for testimony. Wilkinson, Geo. H.; clerk of county court, called in 1898 merely to produce and identify some county records relating to justices of peace. The Decedent Before Secession That Batey was a Union man, before actual war and actual secession, is not likely to be disputed in this hearing. That he was an active and talkative anti-secessionist is the tenor of the whole evidence. He lived in Middle Tennessee, which voted strongly against separation in February, 1861. But in June, 1861, the vote in Middle Tennessee was strongly the other way. Wherefore it was possible for decedent to have been one of the majority of Unionists that accepted secession and the war to enforce it, or one of minority of Unionists that remained what they had been. To prove him the latter, he and Brown and Elder testified for the Claims Commission in 1872. Though the Commissioners themselves were responsible for the botched and blotched arrangements they made and maintained for taking testimony in Middle Tennessee until the efficient James Trimble became their deposition Commissioner there, they could not, in good conscience, have found Batey actually and constantly loyal upon the meager and flabby testimony that came up to them from their commissioner, Frazer, and upon which the decedent’s attorney at Washington chose to rest the case. So the claim was properly rejected. To the wretched testimony of 1872 have been added four depositions taken under the rules of this Court, with counsel present for both sides, and now again the question is up, whether Batey went with the majority of Unionists into secession or remained true to the Union throughout. As the abstract into which the whole loyalty evidence has been gathered comes to less than 16 letter-sheet pages of ordinary typewriting, there is no occasion here for elaborate briefing or arguing, since the question might easily be decided from a reading and weighing of the contents of that abstract. Hence, all that will be essayed here is a rapid summary of the things proved by way of reminder. Between The First and Second Votes That Batey voted against separation at the first vote might be assumed from the mere circumstances and without his own statement that he voted with all his might against separation. What happened in Middle Tennessee between the first and second vote is told in Greeley’s “American Conflict.” Vol. 1, page 481. A secret treaty was made between the State authorities and the Confederate government under which all the military resources of the State were turned over to the Confederates, and Middle Tennessee filled with rebel soldiers. Then another popular vote was ordered, which resulted, of course, as had been provided beforehand. At this June election Batey was at the polls, working against a vote for separation, and it is therefore easy to believe his own contemporary statements that he voted against separation. After the State Had Seceded Soon after the State had been taken out of the Union by fraud and violence, a local public meeting was held in the interest of soldiers’ families. At this meeting, old Mr. Bennett, a warm secessionist, publicly denounced Batey for doing nothing for soldiers’ families (Batey being a rich and evidently a spirited man), and, Batey resenting the attack, the two elderly men would have come to blows except for the interference of bystanders. After this, some Confederate soldiers wanted a horse from Batey and, being refused, essayed to take one by force. He defended the entrance to the stable with a double-barreled shot gun, and not being willing to get the horse by killing Batey, and probably having one of themselves killed by him, they gave up the attempt. Some forage and fencing were used by the Confederate forces without the usual tender of payment; some Mississippians made unexecuted threats to take his property, and a detachment wantonly fired their guns into his young apple orchard to spite and anger him. It was after the State seceded and war had began that Batey accused the Democrats of causing the war, which would have been an unnatural and untimely remark if he had gone over to the secessionists. The evidence is that decedent talked all during the war as he had at the beginning. There is not in the record the least proof or intimation that he ever said a word or did an act that tended towards recognition or aid to the rebellion. In that part of the South, a man of his years, position and esteem would, of course, be tolerated by his neighbors, so long as he committed no overt act against their cause, nor became personally abusive. The aged witness, Brown, in 1898, thought decedent voted for separation at the June election, but only because the generality had voted that way, and he was without any knowledge or information of Batey’s vote. The same witness, in 1898, said he did not know how the loyal men regarded Batey, but he also said the neighbors generally did not consider him to be in sympathy with the Confederate cause. The witness thought he had remained loyal to the close of the war, and his account of his conversations with Batey justifies the assumption. The witness Rowlett, in 1898, supposed that Batey sometimes did like himself, and went on to explain that he would sometimes get into a hole and have to crawl out. But he had no knowledge that Batey was ever in a hole or did any crawling, and he is an emphatic witness to the true and constant loyalty of the decedent. The Justiceship of The Peace Decedent was elected in 1860 a justice of the peace and took an oath of allegiance to the Federal Constitution and the Constitution of Tennessee, as shown by the record. His term carried him through the war, and the county court record shows no case of reobligation of an ante-bellum justice. After the State seceded, the oath to the Federal Constitution was omitted in the swearing in of a new justice of the peace, but there was no substitution of an oath to the Confederate Constitution. The person acting as counsel for the defense thought it material to bring out the fact, that the county court records contain no evidence that the decedent ever objected “in open Court,” to the dropping of the oath to the Federal Constitution in the Swearing in of justices after the secession of the State. Considering how favorably the matter stood for Union men, any man who would have imperiled the neighborly arrangement, by raising such an objection as that suggested, would have deserved all he would have gotten from loyal and disloyal for his folly, and more besides. The Court no doubt understands that in Tennessee justices of the peace are numerous and notaries public scarce, except in the large towns. During the civil war, there was no necessary function of a justice of the peace that brought him into relations with, or support of, the rebellion, and the county court records, introduced in evidence, show no county court proceedings in aid of the rebellion. Sons in the Rebel Army The son Tom was of age, and married, and lived away from home, and went into service in 1862. The son John lived at home, but was away from home when he went into the army. The witness Bennett, who once speaks of John as “Zachariah,” thinks he was under age, but John’s nephew, Thomas R. Batey, thinks that John was of age, and decedent himself, in 1872, testified that both John and Thomas were over 21 years old. John Visited home once while in service. A younger son, Benjamin, ran away and enlisted under enticement, and the witness Bennett tells of the father’s anger against those whom he believed responsible for the boy’s act. The whole evidence is to the effect that decedent opposed the entry of the grown sons into the army, and was bitter about the enticing away of the younger son. The evidence also is that decedent did nothing for any of his sons while in service. He had also a son-in-law in the Confederate army, but that is a matter of no present consequence. After The Federals came This part of the story is of no particular importance. It does not appear that decedent did anything for the Federal army, but just to be loyal was all he could do that the well provided army needed. The nearest Federal garrison to decedent was at Lavergne, and there he took the oath of allegiance in April, 1863, and there, on Jan. 24, 1864, he got the loyalist’s privilege to keep a shot gun and a revolver, and there, a month later, he took the newly devised oath of allegiance, extended so as to cover the intended emancipation of slaves. In 1898, his grandson admitted that he did not know which side his grandfather was on while fighting was in progress, but the boy was only 15 years old when the fighting stopped, and therefore only 11 when it began. The Allegation of Bankruptcy In their disallowing report the Claims Commissioners said that claimant was on the list of bankrupts for his judicial district. In truth, he was not; but, despite the war, lived and died an opulent man. The matter is of no further consequence, because the defendants have agreed that the question shall not be raised in the present case. Chas. F. Benjamin Attorney for Claimant Laurel Baty, L252

Silly questions about Bettey spellings In the late 1700 early 1800's my Bettey's spelled their name Betty Then in the later 1800's it changed to Bettey In the 1900s we see it being spelled Beattie Any idea why they would do this - anyone else have a similar pattern? Bobbie DuFault Cascadia Con 2005 The North American Science Fiction Convention (NASFiC) is September 1-5, 2005 at the SeaTac Airport Hilton, Seattle WA www.CascadiaCon.org

This is a short list: Alexander Beatie; Elizabeth H. Beatie; New York Bartholomew Beatie; Pennsylvania David M. Beatie; Mary T. Beatie; Missouri George M. Beatie; Elizabeth A. Beatie; Michigan James L. Beatie; mother, Elizabeth Beatie (H 123 NY Inf) John L. Beatie; Norah S. Beatie; District of Columbia and Maryland John W. F. Beatie; Matilda C. Beatie; Missouri Peter Beatie; Kentucky Philip M. Beatie; Almira Beatie; Kentucky and Indiana; Elizabeth Beatie (minor) William Beatie, Massachusetts William M. Beatie; New York William R. Beatie; Margaret Beatie, Missouri Laurel Baty, L252

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fayette co., KY Will Book O- Oct. 1838-Feb. 1841 Will Book O pg. 223 Robert Beatty Will Being Low in health but of sound and disposing mind and calling to mind the uncertainty of life and the certainty of death. I do make and ordain this my last will and testament as followeth. First, I will and direct that my body be buried as my wife shall direct. Secondly, I direct that all my just debts shall be paid. I will and devise my whole estate of every description to my beloved wife, Margaret Beatty and I do hereby constitute and appoint my said wife executrix to this my will and should I hereafter acquire, my estate real or personal of which I may be possessed or to which I may have claim. I will and devise, also, all such estate as I may die possessed of so after acquired. The true intent and meaning of this my will being to give all my estate of every description and all interest in such estate as I may die possessed of or in any wise entitled to, to my said wife during her life. And it is my will that Dr. Benjamin W. Dudley who has been our friend for the last twenty years shall continue his friendship and protection to my wife with a view to secure her comfort and independence, and at her death that he shall inherit all the property both real and personal that may belong to the estate. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 29th day of January AD 1836. Robert Beatty Signed, Sealed and delivered in the Presence of: John Henry A. Gebney Geo. W. Dozier Fayette County, to wit, September Court 1839 This writing purporing to be the last will and testament of Robt. Beatty, deceased was produced in court and fully proved by John Henry, A. Gebney, and Geo. W. Dozier, the subscribing witnesses thereto and ordered to be recorded which is truly done in my office. AH JC Rodes, Clk. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Book O pg. 238 (L-1) (excerpts) The estate of James Beatty, deceased in acct. with William Potts, exor. and Richard J. Spurr, admr. of Daniel Spurr, executor of said James Beatty, deceased. List of debts: Shroud, casket, etc. taxes due in 1820, head & foot stone, (few of interest: Traveling expenses to Paris Traveling expenses to Winchester Bourbon co. clerk's fee Fayette clerk's fee Clerk Louisville court Paid James Beatty legacy $1500 (2 pages) Verified correct-22 July 1839 Dan Bradford Jer'h Kertley xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Donna L-3