>At 10:40 AM 8/9/99 -0700, Katherine Cochrane wrote: >>It's almost certain that our first Boynton immigrants (John and William) >>sailed to Boston with the Rev. Ezekiel Rogers from Hull, but I don't think >>anyone knows the name of the ship (or ships). > >Rogers came over on the _John_ of London, per Jewett, _Rowley, >Massachusetts, "Mr. Ezechi Rogers Plantation," 1639-1850_. (I'm not sure >whether "of London" means that they sailed from London, or simply that the >ship normally "lived" there and might have made an out-of-the-norm trip >from Hull.) This gives rise to all sorts of dumb jokes about myancestors >having crossed the Atlantic on the john. > >There seems to be no extant passenger list, though there have been some >partial reconstructions based on people's letters and such. I haven't seen >the Jewett book in about five years and can't remember whether the Boyntons >are on any of the reconstructions. > >It *is* known that the _John_ picked up additional passengers in...Salem, I >think, but perhaps Boston...in the winter of 1638 before moving on to >Rowley, so the fact that the Boyntons were there on arrival at Rowley >doesn't necessarily mean that they left England with the Rogers party. > I stand corrected on the John of London. You're right, of course -- that's what I get for working from memory. However, the fact that Sir Matthew Boynton helped finance and organize the expidition and planned to join it after it was established (according to John Farnham Boynton & Caroline Harriman Boynton's "Descendants of William and John Boynton 1897") leads me to belive that his cousins, William and John, were probably among those who accompanied Rogers from the outset. According to Amos Jewett's introduction to the 1933 edition of Blogdette's "Early Settlers of Rowley," Rogers successor in his pastorage in Rowley, Yorks. was installed 6 Jun 1638, so he had left there by then, or shortly thereafter. The "John" (again, per Blodgette) arrived in Salem, not Boston as I'd said earlier. However, although their lands were adjacent to each other on Bradford Street in the 1643 map, and William was a freeman of the town in 1640, Jewett does not mention the Boynton brothers in his discussion of the founding of the plantation. Jewett's later book, the 1946 "Mr. Ezechi Rogers Plantation", says the John of London sailed from Hull on the Humber in the summer of 1638. Jewett does not cite his source for this information, as he did for the earlier (1635) voyage of the John for St. Christopher. On the 1635 trip the ship carried 33 passengers, so it's likely that the 1638 passenger list was of a similar size, although Jewett doesn't say exactly. He says, "On board were Mr. Ezekiel Rogers and his Company of about twenty families, nearly all from Yorkshire, also Mr. Jose Glover and family." [Jewett & Jewett. "Rowley, Massachusetts: 'Mr. Ezechi Rogers Plantation' 1639-1850" The Jewett Family of America, Rowley, Mass. 1946, p. 9] By the way, two of the books mentioned ("Mr. Ezechi Rogers Plantation" and "Early Settlers") are available from the Rowley Historical Society (http://www.tiac.net/users/mcmahon/RHSHome.htm). The Boynton genealogy is available from Higginson Books (http://www.higginsonbooks.com). They might be found elsewhere as well. Cheers, Katherine Katherine Watson Cochrane <katherine@cd-info.com> - ------------------------------------------------ Surnames researching: Alexander Alleine Anderson Boynton Cashion Dresser Everard Ickes Hackworth Hughes Keith Kidder Kress Latham Mangrum Meade Osborn(e) Pennington Phillips Ralston Renegar/Renninger Rutherford Shockley Shores Snow Starling Stewart Sugg(s) Walker Wallace Watson Wills York ++++ Genealogy Website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~kwc ++++