Dear Researchers of the BOYLE Surname Mailing List, [Steamboat] Captain John BOYLE was born in Garrard County, Kentucky, a son of Samuel BOYLE and Barzilla MURPHY. John BOYLE's parents lived in Clinton County, Indiana from about 1833 to about 1843 [though not necessarily with their son John], when they returned to Kentucky, to Lewis County, on the Ohio River. John BOYLE was in Lewis County, Kentucky in 1850, 1860 and 1870. By 1880 he had moved to Ironton, Lawrence County, Ohio, where he was a saloon keeper. In ante-bellum days, John BOYLE was a steamboat captain, but I do not know what years, which rivers or which vessels. John BOYLE died in Ironton in 1901 and was buried in Woodland Cemetery, Ironton. In 1849, a steamboat was built at Rock Island, Illinois which was christened the "Boyle", but I do not know who the owner of this craft was. A prominent merchant in Rock Island, Illinois, Irish native James BOYLE, is certainly a candidate, though I have no proof. Can anyone add to my knowledge of the people and subjects mentioned in this posting? Thank you for your help! If I am successful in placing Captain John BOYLE from 1840 to 1850, a major breakthrough will be realized. Randal W. Cooper <[email protected]> Lorain, Ohio

Ron Cushman from the Ireland list posted this today and graciously allowed it to be copied to other lists. I suggest that anyone who wishes to enquire about what is on a CD, do the following, to obtain FREE searches: Please do a search of either "The Master Name Index" or the "Family Finder Index" (FamilyTree Maker) for your subject name. OR try the On-line Family Finder Index , http://www.familytreemaker.com/cdhome.html . (ONLY THESE, NOT the simlarly named Family Research /Report that can be generated.) Please copy, for inclusion in your request, the information found on the above search. This indicates to the volunteers that the name is found on this CD (and that you have checked). These 2 Master Name Index/Family Name Index are the same CDs, just different companies, and will tell you if your subject's name appears on any disk and will provide the number of the disk(s) to look into further. With the CD numbers in hand, you can visit the vollunteer CD lookup page: http://genweb.net/~gen-cds/cdlist.html to find out who is volunteering to do lookups on that CD. In most cases, you can click on the volunteer name/email address to send a request. ***IMPORTANT***: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, read (and observe) the rules posted on the volunteers page. As one of the volunteers listed, I certainly appreciate it when requestors do so... - you may also want to read descriptions of the CD's where your name was found, on the Family Tree Maker site, ( http://www.familytreemaker.com/ ), to become familiar with what each CD holds. This will set your expecations, and enable you to supply useful information for the volunteer to use in searching for you. Ron (permission granted to copy this info to other lists...just make sure the same info has not recently been covered, please.)

Hi there. I'm hoping that those of us who are working on the BOYLES version of this name are welcome and that there are others out there also. My maiden name is BOYLES. My ancestors are all in or around Lincoln Co, NC. We go back to William BOYLES who was born around 1750 sometime - not sure where. He had a son, John who was born in 1770 and married to Margaret. Their son, Charles BOYLES (b-1795 in Rowan Co, NC) was married to Ann WILLIAMS. I have names of siblings for most generations. I would like to start meeting more cousins and would like to know if anyone have tracked the BOYLES' before NC. I hear rumor that they were in PA. I look forward to hearing more and am more than willing to share what I have. Amy Leavens Snohomish, WA

Hi to the list, I am looking for the parents and siblings, and other children of Susannah Boyle who married Noah Edgington in Stark County, Ohio. They are my 3G grandparents and their daughter, Mary Elizabeth Edgington, b. 1827 is my 2g grandmother. She married John Bliler b. 1830, in 1852, Stark County, Ohio. I would appreciate any information. Thank you, Susan McAtee [email protected]

I just sent out over 30 lookups. Thank you to those who asked for just a surname and a county when you knew it. I know you got what you asked for. However, some were not clear to me and I had to guess so if you got something different than you expected, resend your request, but this time just the surname and the county if you know it. Also, if you ask for a specific area, please limit it to the CIVIL PARISH only because that is how the index is arranged. If you don't know whether you have a civil or religious parish, just use the county. slan go foill, (bye for now) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you)

This is very important and I hope all of you take the time to heed it's message: When we launched RootsWeb, we assumed that our users would prefer to support us as much as they were able, in exchange for a site open to all, without banners plastered all over everything and without having resources locked up (as is done at other genealogy sites), available only for fees on the order of $60 per year. Instead, people can support RootsWeb for as little as $12 per year. We thus hoped that a reasonable fraction of our users, perhaps half of them, would support us in some way. And because we expected support from the community, we made promises to projects like USGenWeb that we would freely host them for the good of the Internet genealogy community. We have no intention of reneging on those early promises, but it has been difficult, because the community support we anticipated has not been there. Although people use the site like crazy, fewer than 7% of our users have chipped in to keep things going. The other 93%? Perhaps they're busy, or they're broke, or they won't pay unless they have to, or they don't think RootsWeb is useful. Who knows? But it means that RootsWeb has run at a cash flow loss. In simple terms, Karen Isaacson and Brian Leverich have donated not only their time as system administrators but a substantial part of their personal resources to provide the genealogical community with RootsWeb. The rest of RootsWeb's staff have also made substantial contributions. Because RootsWeb's costs exceed its income, we can't provide all the genealogical facilities we'd like to support. These could include online searchable databases of pension records, census indexes, vital records, or countless other valuable genealogical services that we could easily provide -- if only we could afford the staff to support them. And, ultimately, RootsWeb can't even continue to exist if we don't bring our costs and revenues into balance, something we want to have under control before the transition to non-profit status (as opposed to losing money status) is completed. We are doing what we can to remedy the situation. For instance, we are selling banner advertisements where we can. However, this alone will never provide enough revenue to cover the costs of the unbannered volunteer projects which consume most of RootsWeb's resources yet by their very nature produce no direct revenue, even as they provide invaluable content to the genealogical community. The new communities, from their inception, will be fully supported by advertising. They will be paying their own way. We can shift some of the costs of maintaining the Web, mailing list, GenConnect, and search engine servers onto the new communities, so that the new communities will subsidize a genealogical community that hasn't been supporting itself. Although we have been disappointed in the amount of financial support of the genealogical community, we would like to express our deep gratitude to the writer of the letter above and the other 7% of our users who have helped make RootsWeb available to the whole community. Without their support and encouragement, there would be no RootsWeb. If you would like to join the folks who are making RootsWeb possible and thus help us bring new genealogical data online, freely available to all, please visit: <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> or send e-mail to: [email protected]

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I am offering to do lookups. For those who don't know what the GV is, here is an explanation: According to the cd put out by Broderbund: "It references more than one million individuals who occupied property in Ireland between 1848 and 1864. Since no Irish census of the nineteenth century has survived, Griffiths Valuation is a record of extreme importance....can be used to identify an Irish ancestor's exact place of origin, and on Griffith's Valuation links an individual to a specific townland and civil parish." If you request a lookup, all I need is the name and county if you know it. It only has head of householders, so your person should be an adult during this period to be listed. Wives are not listed, unless they are widows. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you) Researching: Connors/O'Connor, McEntee, Campbell, Flynn/O'Flynn, Smith, Phillips, Carter, Boyle, O'Rourke, Healey, Cullinan, Hoare, Todd, Owen, Booth, Gallagher, Fahey, Ryan http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/n/Pat-Connors/ mailto:[email protected] Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I came across the following site on another list. It explains how to do a genealogical search at an LDS Family History Library or on their beta Familysearch.com site. Using an FHL is probably the only way some of us can research our ancestors because we live so far away from where they originated and and where they settled. I drive over an hour and across two mountain summits to get to the one closest to me. During the winter I don't go much because of the snow but the weather is great now and I have ordered films from County Mayo, and Yonkers, NY and can't wait to see them next week. So, here is the helpful site. Hope you all find it useful. http://www1.familysearch.org/sg/how-to.html Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you)

Anyone planning on a trip to Ireland in the near future will enjoy this site. Many helpful hints on what to expect: http://www.ireland-withpatpreston.com/ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat (Patraigin) Connors, California Siochain Leat (peace be with you)

Second send: Looking for descendents of John D. BOYLE. John was born near Ann Arbor, MI 6 AUG 1880. He moved to TEXAS and was living in San Antonio around 1921. According to the SSDI, he died in Ft. Worth, TX SEP, 1969. Anyone with this link? I have info on his father, grandfather, aunts, uncles, grandmother, brother, sisters, cousins, and more. Bill BOYLE

NEWS AND NOTES FROM ROOTSWEB PRIVATE FAMILY SITES AT FAMILYPOINT. RootsWeb is actively looking for partners who can provide additional benefits for the genealogical community. FamilyPoint is one such site. It is completely free to its users, and families who use FamilyPoint can have private areas with features like: o The "Fridge" where users can share notes, stories, recipes, and more. o A photo gallery that lets you privately exchange photos. o Discussion areas by topic. o A calendar that provides an easy way to stay on top of family events with instant notification to others when you schedule an activity. o An e-mail greeting card even using your own photos. o Live chat with family members. o A "family favorites" database where you can store favorite places, recipes, and more along with their descriptions. o An address book where contact information can be shared. One additional nice thing about FamilyPoint is that they can coordinate their site to work with any other site, and RootsWeb is considering working jointly with FamilyPoint to build such a site. If you have time, RootsWeb would appreciate it if you would visit the FamilyPoint site at: <http://familypoint.com/rootsweb>, sign in as a member, build your site, e-mail your family, look around, and then e-mail us at: <[email protected]> and tell us whether you think we should coordinate with FamilyPoint to create a RootsWeb-FamilyPoint site and what other features you'd like that joint site to have. Joining FamilyPoint is completely free to you, and FamilyPoint will donate $2 to RootsWeb for each of our users who join their site. It's a win for everyone, and RootsWeb would really like to know if you would like us to offer this sort of site in the future. Please visit FamilyPoint. Previously published by RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative, RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 16, 21 April 1999. Please visit RootsWeb's main Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/>.

Hello, I am searching for a Polly Boyle who married Joseph Clark in Garrard Co.KY in 1798. Does anyone have a Polly who would fit this time and area? Thank you, Marilyn Merritt

Charles BOYLE married Mary TROWBRIDGE March 19, 1874 in Tompkins County, NY, probably in Ithaca (TROWBRIDGE GENEALOGY by Francis Bacon Trowbridge pub. 1906). This couple,my husband's great grandparents, had three children. Does anyone have information about Charles' parents, or his birth or death dates? I would appreciate any leads you can offer. Thanks.--Kathleen Canney Barber

Hi, I have reason to believe that I am descended from Daniel BOYLES and would like to prove it. Daniel was born in VA and married Susannah CARRICO. They had 10 children, Abel, John, Sarah, Nancy, Matilda, Daniel, Susan, Elizabeth, Margaret and Delilah. I am interested any any info that anyone has on this family. Thanks. Laurel [email protected]

These are the archives available to all rootsweb researchers. REGULAR ARCHIVES: These appear on the web page: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=BOYLE You do NOT need a user name or password. They are "searchable" by keyword but are not "threaded". If I enter my John BOYLE, I will get a list of all messages posted to the list where John or BOYLE appears in the subject line. THREADED ARCHIVES: These appear on the web page: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BOYLE-L/ You DO need a user name and password. (the archive will prompt you to enter one, if you don't have one there is a button to set create one, and you will have immediate access). You will use it each time you visit the archives (regardless of which mailing list). These are archives created by Rootsweb's Marc Nozell who has been working for over a year on an efficient and research-friendly archiving system for the mailing lists. What is "threaded"? When a message is posted to the list and no one answers it ("replies" to it), it is a single or unthreaded message. When a message is posted to the list, and one or more people answer it, reply to the reply, etc. - it becomes a "message thread" - that is, the messages are connected to each other (via the computer system). These archives were just established so there aren't archives earlier than around Feb. 1999.

NEWS AND NOTES FROM ROOTSWEB THREADED LIST ARCHIVES ARE NOW AVAILABLE. Now you can read 122,813 messages from 877 mailing lists using your Web browser by visiting <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/>. All those messages are from just three months of beta tests -- watch this archives grow with its public debut. This is a remarkably comfortable way to browse through the posts that have been made to the lists. Be sure to use the integrated search engine to find what you are looking for. To use the Archiver you will need to pick a user name and password and you will need to accept a cookie. The reason for passwords and cookies is to keep spammers' e-mail address harvesters *out* of the archives. Because of this password-and- cookie feature, listowners can set up lists to be archived with confidence that they are *not* exposing posters' addresses to spammers. We encourage all RootsWeb listowners to visit the Archiver and then include their lists in the archives. The next step is to start making old list messages available. Thanks to Marc Nozell for implementing the threaded archives. It's great work.

Here is the recent Time Magazine genealogy article. Lots of good stuff. http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/toc/0,3392,0,00.html

I'm looking for any Boyles that were in the Ballymacarberry/ Touraneena and/or Lismore area of Waterford during the nineteenth century. Many emigrated to the Boston/Framingham Massachusetts area towards the end of the century; one part of the family came to Yonkers NY. Thanks! Mary Yonkers NY

WELDING LINKS: "SHIP ME ALL THOSE PASSENGERS . . ." by Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG <[email protected]> <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gormleym/> It's been another exciting week in the past lane on the Internet, but I don't think I can take many more like this. For years I have enjoyed helping online genealogists, sharing knowledge and experience I have acquired through the years as well as using my vast library of reference material to find answers or clues. I have always tried to be patient and remember that I once was a "newbie." I do not know if we can blame technology, but I think people are ruder online, or perhaps I am turning into a curmudgeon. However, I can not imagine a novice genealogist walking up to me and yelling: "HOW DO I RESEARCH MY LAST NAME. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE E-MAIL ME AND EXPLAIN IT!!" Typing in all caps (unless you have a visual problem) is considered yelling in e-mail -- and it is rude. Throwing in 20 bangers (exclamation points) tells me the inquirer is not only rude, but also impatient and probably would be ungrateful for genealogical material I have. Making demands of me when asking for a favor doesn't set too well either. I'm not sure how to respond to the request claiming that I put something on the Internet about the ships that brought people to the States and asking me to e-mail these to him. First, I didn't post anything anywhere about this subject and second, even if I had a clue to what he was talking about, does he want me to e-mail him the ships, the passengers, or the "something"? As co-editor of two popular e-zines (MISSING LINKS and ROOTSWEB REVIEW) that go to a total of about 300,000 subscribers, I can assure you that I receive many strange, and often interesting, requests. However, more and more of these requests require psychic powers. I've been searching for a mind-reading course at Virtual U. Perhaps that will do the trick. "Send me all you have on the VANDERPOOL line," a newfound cousin requested recently. I don't think so. I can't afford the freight to ship it to her, and she didn't offer to pay for it C.O.D. Besides my three private secretaries are on vacation and I don't have time to find everything in my files. In a quarter-of-a- century, a person can collect a lot of information on a family that has been in America 345 years. I don't mind sharing, but unreasonable requests turn me off. I saw a few more that I don't think I will respond to either. They include: -- "I have been working for two months on my ancestors and have them back to Noah. When will the Flood records be online?" -- "Would you send me the JPGs of our family crest -- the one scratched on the walls in that cave in southern France?" -- "I have a 125,786-word 9th-century manuscript about my Viking ancestors. However, it is in Norse. Where can I get it translated -- instantly and for free?" -- "Send me everything you have on that line -- I want to include it on my Web site." If you are not getting answers to your demands for genealogical information, try making reasonable, well-thought-out requests. Take a little time to educate yourself in methodology. You will be surprised at the difference it will make. Some of us curmudgeons have virtual trunks of treasures to share -- if you know the magic words. * * * * * Previously published by Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG, Missing Links: A Weekly Newsletter for Genealogists, Vol. 4, No. 15, 9 April 1999. Please visit the MISSING LINKS Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mlnews/index.htm>.